You learn something every day. I let bosses take advantage of me when I was 16-18 but as you get older you learn that there's no point to staying late, working longer hours or doing job's not in your pay grade.
Just realised I have been quiet quitting for 27 years. Do the bare minimum they pay you for. As we say at work. 'You don't pay us to think, if you did we'd be doing your job!'
Don't get me wrong, sometimes we get a supervisor who works hard and appreciates us. We'll stay longer and do extra for him because he is prepared to 'get his hands dirty' too. We've happily walked out at finish time on many occasions and left some bosses on their own with 3/4 hours work to do because they expected us to stay, rather than ask and were genuinely assholes to work for.
As I always say you have to earn respect as a boss. The title and salary doesn't guarantee it.
For the record I have been a boss before and would never ask someone to do a job I wasn't prepared to do myself.
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+1 yIn the military, you can see it a lot when a person is about the leave the military or transfer to another command. Basically, you just stop giving a shit about anything because it really doesn't matter. Not to the point of getting kicked out or the equivalent to a civilian's 'fired,' but you do stop going above and beyond because fuck it... your eval is already written and signed.
I'm not making a scene... but you should know better than to come to me for help. The job SHALL NOT BE DONE, and I simply don't give a fuck.
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+1 yI'm so sick of that term- it's suddenly everywhere on the internet!
Quiet quitting is basically just doing your job- but nothing extra (ie: taking on other peoples jobs and responsibilities, or staying late for little to no compensation or appreciation). Basically you do what you're supposed to-
Most of us were raised with the belief that the harder you work, more hours you put in, and being an exceptional person at work meant you would get promoted, noticed, more money, etc. But unfortunately, most places do NOT follow that principle.
People that do the bare minimum, kiss up to management, are full of drama, come into work late... get all the accolades instead. And, speaking as a millennial, we got sick of it. So now we come into work, do exactly what we're supposed to- and go home... or worse case, pursue another job that does appreciate us.
There is no drive to work harder for minimal to no reward to reflect it. That is "quiet quitting."
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Funny I'd never heard that term until I saw this thread. Certainly sounds like a huge "morale" issue when it does happen in a workplace. I've never done "quiet quitting" myself, but looking back there were times when I felt like it. At those times, I looked for another job and eventually left.
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@ArrowheadSW It has been around for a while. I first heard the term a few months ago on Facebook. But lately, as more people get disgruntled with their jobs and bosses, it is being used more.
Check out YouTube. There are so many videos explaining it in more detail. I just paraphrased it. - +1 y
I'll have to look at YouTube. The times I'd felt like it, I changed jobs. I used it as a sign to get out of Dodge. And if this is going on in a workplace, management really has to re-evaluate their management style, and maybe be more employee friendly?
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@ArrowheadSW Exactly. I "quiet quit" a job I had years ago: I went from going above and beyond to doing just what was required of me because I was unhappy with the management and how I was being treated there while watching my coworkers get away with murder and getting promoted for doing... nothing.
That went on until I got a new job. It's sad but most managers treat their employees as if they're disposable: that's how my past manager was. She actually told me once, "If they [the employees] don't follow what I say, then we can find someone else to do their job."
No listening to trying to keep her good staff, but remove the "bad" and put someone in that she can manipulate or will blindly follow her... a yes person so to speak.
That is just one of the many problems with management nowadays. - +1 y
@Cynicaldreamer Right. It is usually a bad idea to let long time experienced employees leave, because those are the ones who know the job well. Even if it is so they can bring in someone who they don't have to pay as much. The person who they don't have to pay as much isn't going to know the job as well and likely won't be as productive.
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The flip side of the coin... The company that I worked for a long time ago... They hired a new grad and paid for him to move. He had a long ways to go in his training and was a bit frustrated with it but that was normal. He heard another company was hiring so he checked it out. Then he walked in to work the next day and said that he was leaving because the other company was paying more. He hadn't even been hired by them yet. So he "quiet quit" because the other company was paying more. He never did get hired by them but we were so tired of hearing say he was quitting, they we just said, "OK you're quitting" and gave him his final paycheck. Weird dude.
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@ArrowheadSW Now that is not quiet quitting- that's just following the money. I mean maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't leave a job that paid to move me and train me... at least right away. If he was really unhappy there, or if it was me? I would have stayed at least a year, gotta as much experience and training as possible, padded my resume, and THEN moved on to another job. And that is assuming I'm still unhappy there or don't see any growth.
What he did is just selfish and stupid- and he learned the hard way don't just jump ship without making sure you have a backup plan ready.
Ugh, see kids like that make the rest of us that do want to work look foolish. - +1 y
@Cynicaldreamer Oh yeah he was one out to lunch dude. He had it way easy there and we were in the process of training him. The other companies would have assumed that he was already trained. When he left, the first job that he took, he worked for ONE DAY and he didn't even show up for the second day because he was so flustered. One guy at work said, "He's burning his bridges before he even crossed them!"... Like your comment about "jumping ship"... LOL
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@Cynicaldreamer Oh gosh now I'm hearing that term "Quiet Quitting" all the time now... LOL... I had never heard of it until I saw this thread. Now all the time.
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@ArrowheadSW I told you! Haha. Apparently people are not happy with their jobs and they're making it known
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@Cynicaldreamer LOL Now you've got me thinking of that goofy former co-worker. To think the company paid to move him and was patient with his training, and for him to walk in one day and say that he is quitting because the other company was paying more. I looked him up on the internet and he is still in town after all these years. Weird dude.
This is what we should all do because work will replace you in a hot minute when you die suddenly! You are just a number. That’s the harsh truth! We are all replaceable. Never ever think you are a superstar at work and the business will burn to ashes when you leave. There’s a million out there who will replace you. Sometimes working hard will get you doing more work and not getting paid for it! And you get to do other people’s work too! Work your hours. Get your break. Do not answer when you’re off the clock. Live your life!
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYeah I've done that. Often big companies don't know what is going on in different department. I got passed over for a promotion over a manager's pet, denied a raise, and was always catching shit for being behind even though I was doing 3 people's jobs, expected to work over time but my overtime money messed with. I got another job with same money but less work. Sent in my notice a month in advance to HR and was sure to record it but because HR was also run by a clown they didn't let my manager know and didn't even realise. I started my new job that Monday and started getting panicked calls and messages all week. They lost a load of accounts. In the end they had to hire two people to do my job with a series of inylterns
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Your story just feels so fucking good. I love it when they get fucked over back for the fucking over they dish out. There's nothing I hate worse than having to train the guy how to do his job and he'll be bossing me around as soon as he gets it. Not anymore... I'll sabotage the poor woman/dude into being a complete failure and leave them all fucked up. The only reason they need me to train someone else to do what I do is that they're all too lazy to just do it. Instead of giving me a promotion they have a buddy or fuck buddy they need to take my place so I can get pushed somewhere else. Yeah well, fuck em. They'll just call me back in 3 weeks desperate because they have no idea of how to do things.
Opinion Owner+1 y@D_Bone_Steak I don't mind training other people but that manager had it coming. The day I left I wiped certain key files and customer information.
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+1 yit's when you conduct yourself in such a way that your employer won't be satisfied with your performance but also can't sue you cause you technically do everything that you are legally obliged to do.
i did that when i was doing military service. it wasn't my choice. there was conscription. i didn't see a point in my tasks there. it was basically just a massive waste of time for everyone involved. we were basically just given pointles tasks in order for us to be busy on paper and we were instructed to do so by mindless goons who were dumber than us.
so i played stupid and did everything wrong on purpose so they wouldn't give me any more tasks. you can't be blamed for being stupid. they can't proof that i'm not that stupid.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI had to look this up because I hadn't heard the term before.
My initial thought was that this referred to a US postal worker leaving their place of work without indiscriminantly shooting their colleagues with an assault weapon.
It turns out that it just means you have totally checked out mentally and have absolutely no intention of applying yourself to your role to any greater degree than the bare minimum required to recieve a pay check but as I live in the UK this is normal and as such there is no special term for it.
I guess that explains why I never heard of it.
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+1 yQuiet Quitting is a weird marketing term that modern business is trying to make out to be some huge moral problem. It's the avocado toast if the 2020s.
It has always had a name: work to rule.
In otherwords, doing your contractual obligations in order to receive your contractual compensation.
It's normal, it's healthy, and only Americans think it's somehow "noble" to keep giving away your labour for free out of some martyrdom complex to Capitalism.00 Reply
+1 yI see it every day! They come in barely do their job and for sure don't jump in to help out with anything else. They also don't last very long around here either as the hard working group soon lets them know how shitty their attitude is and they leave or I let them go.
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+1 yIf you are collecting a paycheck and not doing your job as agreed when you were hired, you are a thief. Noone owes you a job. You have the privilege of having an opportunity to get a paycheck thanks to your employer. You have a moral obligation to do as you promised.
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Be the guy saying that when your boss is a piece of shit trying to give your position and well-deserved raise to some random chick he met at a bar. When everyone around you is too lazy to do their fucking job but they get to stick around. You hang around in a bathroom long enough, eventually, you'll end up taking a shit.
Don't get me wrong... I do agree with you, I really do. But find yourself surrounded by thieves and they're just fucking getting away with it... the only retard there is the one stupid enough to stick to their moral obligation and pick up the slack for everyone else... especially when the one giving you a job doesn't acknowledge that in the least. - +1 y
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"the only retard there is the one stupid enough to stick to their moral obligation and pick up the slack for everyone else"
I think this is the wrong view. You are not the "only retard," you are the only *winner* who does the right thing. And people who do the right thing eventually become far more successful than those who don't. THEY are the retards who will be working at Starbucks in their 60s.
Being a success means not being afraid to do the right thing no matter what other people think and doing the best you can at all times. Sooner or later someone will recognize that you are head and shoulders above the others. - +1 y
You might be right about that... but it's also important to pay attention to who you're working for and make an assessment as to if it really matters if you do a good job for them or not.
Lets pretend we work for Jeffery Epstein... kill people and pick up underage girls for him or fuck off and just say we tried? We get paid either way... That's my point. - +1 y
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I completely agree. The right thing to do if you are not happy with where you work is to find a new place to work, not to cheat on the deal you made where you are working now. - +1 y
I agree with that 100% as well... I failed to see that though from my own military perspective where I got sucked back in against my will despite completing the contract. It wasn't like the movies where some executive guy begs you to come back and serve your country... do the right thing. I was basically told, "pack your bags shit bag, you're on for 2 more years and you don't have a choice." Under normal circumstances though, just leave that fucking job if you can.
+1 yQuiet Quitting is a company propaganda term for We Don’t Treat Our Workers Well. Like companies that treat their employees well or invest even a small amount into them, have thriving employees. People wonder why someone wouldn’t want to bust their ass all day for a company that’s willing to just replace them at a moment’s notice
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+1 yLets see. Its when the company no longer gives a shit about their employees and their employees return the favor. They just show up and do the absolute bare minimum or less until a better job comes along. 1200 people at my work and approximately 800 are quiet quitting. Its a shit show but the company brought it upon themselves. I view it more as a reflection of corporate leadership than a reflection of the workers.
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+1 yI googled the definition (it's not about quitting a job, but rather doing the excat thing that is required and nothing more, working just what is needed and staying excatly the time that you have too)
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+1 yDoing your job and only your job. I'm not doing extra work without pay. I'm not staying late. I'll work my hours and go home. Ez
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bam! agreed
655 opinions shared on Education & Career topic. Basically where you do the minimum amount of work because you aren’t appreciated as a worker and aren’t treated well.
I've been thankful however to not be a job where that’s the case.
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+1 yCompany term they use to give a negative spin on something all workers should do. I much prefer the term "Acting your wage".
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+1 yIf it means just quitting without saying anything yes I’ve done that. You’re employer won’t tell you when you’re getting laid why should I tell them I’m leaving.
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+1 yI really don’t understand the idea behind this. Honestly I think people make up the strangest things
00 ReplyI've heard of quiet quitting but have you heard of quiet firing? I saw it on the news the other day.
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+1 yQuiet Quitting is something Gen Z/Milennials think they made up on TikTok. Normal people call it ‘fucking off at work’. It’s being on the clock but not really working very hard.
00 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Education & Career topic. I did not know what this even meant until yesterday. It is really how I lived my whole life.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIt's how Millennials justify not working as hard as others. Giving it an official name makes them feel better about it.
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Hilarious that millennials are STILL getting the blame for everything. Sweetie this is a gen z term.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Smashingdoozy Uh oh, butthurt Millennial alert. Lol
Do you actually think the majority of the people doing this are age 25 or younger? Think again.
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Clearly didn't look at my age.
The person who started this is gen z.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Smashingdoozy I did look at your age as well as that of the QA. You both are on the bubble. But regardless, you said quiet quitting is a gen z thing and not a millennial thing, and you were wrong. Care you address that with anything relevant?
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I'm just telling you that the term "quiet quitting" was not invented by millennials it was a gen z woman who made TikTok videos acting it out. It went viral recently but she has been doing it for months.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Smashingdoozy I thought we were talking about the behavior here, not the term.
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I specifically said term in my comment.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Smashingdoozy The question was about the behavior, as was my response. Not sure where your confusion is coming from.
Finishing on time and spending time with your family.
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+1 yI have my will to live 😂
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