Do you lose respect for people who learn slowly and who keep repeating mistakes?

[Bethany22]

And what irritates you more, incompetence or stupidity? What's the difference between the two words?

[Rosexøxø]

Well to me- stupidity is carelessness or mindless behavior. Can be impulsive and not thought through.

Incompetence is a lack of knowledge/ memory.

We all start off as incompetent. I can’t hate those who simply didn’t learn what I learned at an earlier point in my life.

I had this problem, but do not misdiagnose it. ☝️

*It is usually those who are not open to learning and are stubborn in their false information, which angers me.* Not only would it be an injustice to others, themselves at times, but it may also be a disadvantage or inconvenience for myself, at times. It would potentially make completing tasks longer and more strenuous, and endanger some individuals.

Efficiency is pleasing; the lack of it- irritating. Naturally a person who seems against efficiency should aggravate and possibly anger a person who is actively trying to complete things in a safe and timely manner, and understand the functions of tools and emotions of people.

I would say stupidity is expected from humans and sometimes the right kind is laughable (in safe environments), or when the sense of life is deemed short,

but there is still much to do to level the playing field for many people, so it’s expected that people who want to be the best at their trade and so on, get things done, without being delayed by the seemingly useless stupidity of others.

You may have no purpose for it. You have goals and serious agenda, and that’s admirable.

We also didn’t sign up to be the teacher or any sitter, so it would annoy us if we got into a situation, where we had to responsibly uphold that role for a moment, in order to establish the goal/ task/ safety/ and etc. for things to run smoothly, and people to be safe and healthy.

When we are in a “work-mode,” we want others to be for us 💪 and to help us achieve that goal. Not everyone is in that same frame of mind. 👐

It (the frame of mind) can sometimes be a combination of incompetency and stupidity, but usually it is just stupidity (when you deal with people of a certain age).

Those that are stubborn in their stupidity and false beliefs, is what annoys me when I’m in a work mode, but it is also a great challenge to grow my patience and ability to rise above that, and still get the job done.

Not necessary ofc. People can be done away with, (not in terms of life, but position and teams/ etc.) in order to avail the goal, but I guess it’s all a matter of one’s priority, and the time they have.

[musicbrain5]

No, I don’t. As a teacher, I am aware that everyone has a different approach to learning, and they learn in different ways. I only teach children so that’s what I can speak to. Some children are fast learners and then they quickly get bored, while other children are slower learners and may take more time to grasp concepts. This continues into adulthood. There are children who have special needs who may need to have a completely overhauled learning plan that is designed especially for them to learn at an appropriate pace.

Repeating mistakes is part of learning. Mistakes are always something to learn from, and they promote growth. However, I would lose patience for someone who has no will to even try and correct mistakes - that shows they are unwilling to improve themselves and learn the task or the concepts at hand. It’s a sign of a bad student, really. Having humility, accepting the fact that you made a mistake, and committing to fixing mistakes and practising are the keys to success.

[musicbrain5]

Thanks!

[ArrowheadSW]

It has been the subject of much study over the decades, to figure out how to help people who are slow learners, or who just "don't" learn. Whether it is learning in school, or learning about "life mistakes" where people repeatedly do things that screw up their lives. I'm not a very patient person so I can lose patience. But I wouldn't say that I lose respect for them, generally speaking.

[Sonorous]

Do I lose respect for people who learn slowly and who keep repeating mistakes?

It all depends on the situation. Because everyone makes mistakes, I prefer to approach this on a case-by-case basis. There have been instances in my life where I'm glad that people didn't give up on me. Because I was always capable of constructive change. But, in my opinion, maintaining respect for someone in this case is only dangerous if the person is repeatedly doing something extremely destructive and they are fully aware of the gravity of the issue and how it negatively affects others, but they refuse to change their course of action.

What irritates me more, incompetence or stupidity?

I'd say stupidity. I say this because if someone has the potential to become competent, it's less frustrating than having to deal with someone who doesn't. I'm just not that kind of person. I'm not that loving or people oriented.

What's the difference between the two words?

I believe that people with an extremely lower IQ don't & will never the same level of mental competence as those with a higher IQ. However, if someone isn't competent in something, it does not necessarily mean that the person is "stupid" or that they undoubtedly have an extremely lower IQ. So, I believe it is possible for a person to be more mentally incompetent than someone else without having a lower IQ than the other individual. Hell, they could possibly have a higher IQ & could simply lack the knowledge, experience, skill-level, acceptable physical appearance, good social skills, good control over emotional state, luck required to be positively perceived by the judger & their biases, etc.

But at the core, it's theorized that intelligence is comprised of things like having a higher level of memory, attention, perception, creativity, and the ability to think abstractly. We can't say for certain that any definition regarding intelligence is an absolute truth, but I personally believe it is more true to reality to say that some people brains work to adapt, learn, & understand complex problems in a more efficient & effective manner than others do.

Also, I believe it's not a simple thing to define. There are many ways that intelligence can shine. I believe the answer to what is intelligence is closer to the psychological approach of "Gestalt psychology" in the sense that it emphasizes the importance & effectiveness of a whole, rather than the individual parts. Not that the individual parts don't matter. But that the whole is more coherent & meaningful.

[The_Shadow_Dweller]

I don't lose respect for them. Making mistakes is a part of learning process. But too many are a bit inconvenient too. For this you need to practice in private. Whenever you get the time.

I feel good as not quitting is also very important. And more so when you are in the learning stage. Learning is important for me. Slowly/fast, that is not. What would you do by finishing fast if you did not do the task after, properly?

Stupid for me is just not being competent in any task. But incompetent is not being made for a particular task only. You can flourish in other tasks as well. It means that.

[Audiofox]

To be honest, yes. The older I get the more people seem to be doing just that. Tired of listening to a friend complain about how awful all women are because his fiancée left him after he wouldn’t stop nagging her for her weight gain. And then there’s the friend who constantly complains that he needs to lose weight and sleep better and be less depressed but does f*** all to change that. I also work with a band of absolute morons who can’t answer a direct question or manage their time appropriately. It’s irritating to say the least.

I also live in a town full of drug addicts and at this point I’m utterly sick of it. You chose to become addicted to a substance and then demanded society owe you for that? No, pick your own a** up and fix your damn self.

[FunkyMonkee]

It depends on the situation. If they're younger and have a learning or comprehension disability, take a little more time with them and try to help them understand. It's not their fault they're that way. No need to lose respect for them.
If they're certainly old enough to know better and especially if they've someone who wrangled themselves into a position of power and are STILL doing INCREDIBLY stupid things like, giving away trillions in tax money for pointless causes, letting anyone walk in and destroy the country, siding with the enemy, etc., they deserve NO respect at all!!
IF there is a difference between those two words it would be that stupid means you just never had the smarts to do certain things and just can't learn them. Incompetence means you ARE smart enough to learn them and do so but never bother to use any of those smarts or, if you do, you do it VERY badly!! The latter of the two above examples is incompetence.

[MCheetah]

There's a difference. You can fix genuine incompetence. You can't fix stupidity. If someone ignores my advice, or other's advice, and chooses to remain in ignorance, incompetent, or stupid, then I lose all respect for them and stop wasting my time with them. But if someone is "innocently" ignorant and willing to improve, then I am willing to work with them. I'm a teacher, so I have a lot of patience for those willing to improve. Most idiots seem to be the former, though. My mother was this, especially. Stupid AND stubborn, possibly the two most frustrating adjectives a person could be. I don't waste my time with people too stupid to realize they're stupid. Self-awareness is one of the most intelligent traits a person can have. Stupid people usually lack it in droves.

[Ladybugharp]

No, I don't lose respect for people who learn slowly and repeatedly make mistakes.

Patience is a kindness owed to someone going through a learning phase. But I would lose respect towards someone I’m investing my time in to train (at work, for example) who lacks total interest or drive to learn.

As I understand it, incompetence is part of a learning phase called The Four Stages of Competence: Unconscious Incompetence, Conscious Incompetence, Conscious Competence and Unconscious Competence.

I don't know; maybe stupid would fit within the Unconscious Incompetence stage (ignorance and a learning gap). According to the Collins dictionary, stupid is a lack of good judgment, intelligence and sensibility.

[JamesDiaz11]

I don't highly respect those of low intelligence. Learning slowly is a marker of low intelligence, and I've seen it hundreds of times. Part of my job is communicating; I do so for presentations, speeches, etc. To say it plainly I can put together words very effectively. However, there are many people who you can give a simple explanation/ show them something and they just don't get it- their mind is weak, and they can't remember very rudimentary things.

I used to think that poor people were just lazy, but the more I learn the more I think that they're by in large stupid/ low intelligence.

Incompetence can come from stupidity, but it can also come from laziness- I think that's the only difference.

[SnowedIn]

So stupidity is a lack of good judgement while incompetent is an inability to do something correctly or well.

I don't lose respect. Ever. I might make a choice for what that person should or shouldn't do in my organization. Both stupidity and incompetence can be overcome. If, however, they refuse to learn (or can't) then it's time to help them find something they can do.

In a lot of cases, stupidity is a lack of thought or life experience but is subsequently a choice while incompetence is usually a lack of training and then subsequently a choice.

[wittymilf]

Honestly… yes. But I’m pretty patient so they get to make the same mistakes a few times before I start to doubt their intelligence.

my favourite saying in life is don’t judge a person on their mistakes, but by what they learn from them.
it’s not a mistake in my eyes if it can be fixed or learned from. id say incompetence means not capable of the job at hand, stupidity means not capable of any job 😂😂

[NathanDavis]

absolutely not...

in fact... 70% of the students I've tutored over the years are all those the teachers and parents have quit on

and my actual task is to find out a way, the one way in which they will be able to learn and open up themselves to it and I have never ever quit on them, not one (although sometimes I do refer them to people that I know to be a better fit for them, since they're actually specialists and professionals as well)

[BJP21]

Learning difficulties play a huge roll in that especially if there are a lot of steps involved. Incompetence is the action, stupidity is behavior. Incompetence would irritate me more than stupidity because all a person had to do was ask for help.

[Googlemyahoo]

If I’m training a person & I point out mistakes they made & they do the same thing again after being corrected I point it out again politely. The third & forth time I tell them to GTFO. Happened last Friday 🤷‍♂️

[dustybiker]

People who taught slowly used to irk me more. I wanted to learn and absorb at a faster pace than some. It made me lose interest.

[purplepoppy]

It's often said stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Bit real stupidity is not learning from other people's stupidity.

[snackthatsmilesback]

No of course not I'm one of them. It does make me lose respect for myself tho so that's a double standard I'm working on lol. Ig stupidity could just be intentional/unreasonable incompetence. And incompetence is just not knowing what ur doing.

[RealMarek]

I don’t lose respect for them if they’re really trying, but sometimes they need to find a different line of work.

[DizzyDesii]

Well that would be hating myself 😂 I dont do the shit on purpose. I just realize too late

[SpokenTruth]

More times than not there is something going on with them and it could be something you wouldn't want to trade places with. Some times it just takes persistence.

[UniquelyBasic]

I don't lose respect for someone because they may not be a fast learner.

[CoolCatMar1]

No I don't. Some people learn slowly. And some people just don't change at all

[LiamJHayden]

Not really. I respect an honest effort. I do lose respect for quitters who give up too easily.

[Havthrills]

Stupidity irritates me more. Makes me wonder how those people can even function at home. Then I find out that they still live with their parents.

[Jamie05rhs]

No. Some people genuinely have learning disabilities. We need to be gentle and patient with them. Kindness matters.

[AsaKyo]

I just lose respect for anyone who shows me they're a shitty individual

[thegooglepixelfan]

Being stupid mean they don't really learn from mistake and kept repeating them.

[Anonymous]

Not if it's truly not thier fault. Some people play dumb because they can get out of work by playing dumb.

[Andres77]

Depends on the quality of the mistake

[Andres77]

Some mistakes are certainly from incompetence. Others are a result of other issues (extreme stress at home, learning disability, unclear guidance) so one has to confront the mistake immediately and gather information, not accuse, and find out the why. Retraining may be needed but it also needs to be documented so progress or the lack thereof can be closely monitored. Quarterly evaluations and progress reports will support further action.
Key thing, confront any substandard performance immediately by seeking information, not accusing.
Once you see substandard performance and do NOT correct it, you set a new standard.

[Andres77]

This way there’s no “repeating mistakes” because after the first mistake corrective action is taken and documented.
I know there is a variance in work environment and culture but the above is general guidance that should fit in just about every situation

[D_Bone_Steak]

They're both one in the same in my mind.

[pizzalovershouse]

Depends if they have a learning disability

[Alex8736]

which one irritates you most?

[shortster]

Not really.