When you see a grammar error, how does it make you feel about the poster? I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT TYPOS. I'm talking about not knowing that "you're" means you are, and "its" means something belonging to "it".
- 10 mo
I’m definitely not a “Grammar Natsi” (I know the correct spelling, but I’m Jewish, so I am NOT diluting the very real impact THAT word has on a great many people)!
When I see native English speakers who clearly don't know the difference between “THEN” and THAN” (which seems to be a relatively new one) that really bothers me. When I see someone who doesn't know the difference between “THEIR”, “THERE”, and “THEY’RE”, or between “YOUR”, and “YOU’RE”, I start to think maybe they’re lying about graduating high school, let alone earning that college degree they claim to have! However, when I see someone who does not even know the difference between “PACIFIC” and the word “SPECIFIC” (in writing)! Then yes, I begin to think they are just stupid! I mean, do they NOT see the red spellcheck lines under all those misspelled words, or the blue context-check lines under all the incorrect uses of those other words? I think the issue is that most people just don't care! Which speaks volumes about their lack of commitment to just get it right! (Again, that only leads me to doubt the veracity of that college degree they claim to have earned!) The issue for (at least) Gen-Z members like myself, is that our English teachers (or language arts now) don’t know correct comma placement themselves. (Which, thanks to them, is my personal weakness), and they’ll actually say “Let me be pacific, you ONLY write it this way it under these circumstances!” So what chance does my generation have? Now, apparently some colleges, especially undergraduate, are increasingly not grading on grammar! As long as you met the word number requirement, and tried, you get an “A”!
However, having been completely screwed by autocorrect myself! Especially when using voice to text! Combined with the fact that the good people of GAG do not allow us to edit, or even delete errant posts, to redo them. I don’t make too big of a deal of it. Also I cannot ever remember ever correcting anyone over bad grammar… Well, except for trolls! I will definitely in-turn troll the hell out of them for every single grammatical and spelling mistake in their post!
But I do completely understand your frustration! Words matter, and words have a specific meanings. Using the wrong word can easily change the meaning of what they wrote, or at best make it vague! Constantly using the wrong word, for example someone writing “let me be pacific, the Specific Ocean is the largest ocean on Earth” repeatedly, while I doubt I’d say anything to them, internally I’m really wondering how they ever actually graduated college without knowing the difference between the name of an ocean, and being precise and clear in their statements… But yes, after two or three similar grammatical errors, I do start to think they might just be stupid after all!
I hope this helps, and adds something to the conversation.
Sincerely, Laura 🤗12 Reply- 9 mo
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- 10 mo
I used to feel that way, and I am ashamed to say I did mock people for it, once upon a time. But I realized it wasn't as much about the grammar as it was about me wanting to appear and feel superior to others. It was immature on my part to judge people for it.
I've known people who were extremely intelligent who weren't gifted in the technicalities of writing, but they had such a vast knowledge of life and such a wealth of experience that it was irrelevant. I have also read many books that, while technically grammatically perfect, were a bore. I remember one time I read a book by an editor about how to write that was absolutely amazing and a wonderful resource. Then, I read a novel he wrote. The novel was just plain bad. It was technically perfect, but the story just dragged. There wasn't enough life in the writing to entertain while the story took a nap. But, he was an editor, not a storyteller. He had skills that were a tremendous help to people. But he didn't have the talent in that particular area.
That is why we need each other. People with great ideas need others who can critique and streamline those ideas into something both useful and relatable. I hear what you are saying, and poor grammar can be distracting sometimes. But it is not the sole marker of intellect, or lack thereof. Just my perspective! :)
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Seriously? I mean is doing these things due to wanting to feel superior genuinely an actual thing that happens? I thought it was only ever a petty excuse by the recipients who don't want to do better.
Personally I've only ever corrected things because of rampant OCD. Like my skin crawls when things aren't just right.
360 opinions shared on Education & Career topic. Some grammatical and spelling errors are obviously due to pure ignorance; lack of education. And, yes, I look down on such people.
I have a cousin who had the same opportunities as did my sister and I. But she turned out to be uneducated trailer trash and her daughters are worse. But, now, speaking ghetto and sounding illiterate when texting makes them feel hip and cool.
On the other hand, I cut people slack because I don't know where they live in the world or if English is their first language. I give them credit for being bilingual.
Then there is spell check.
There are also typos. Sometimes my fingers to things automatically without my brain catching it. Every time I proof read what I write, I find errors.
So I'm not too hard on people. To do so is a demonstration of superiority.20 Reply
If one seriously judges upon that it makes me think they are compensating for their own lack of intellect.
It's like a guy talking about penis size a lot.
I don't care longs if it's readable, then my spelling is awful due to dyslexia which I do care about as I think spelling is more important, however anyone with 2 cents of logic can figure out a spelling mistake.
Also the irony is they are always wrong, trying to grammar police while not doing it themselves. I remember someone pointing out my grammar, meanwhile I am just here like if your gonna be petty then so am I 'Oh yeah? Where's your Capitals and full stops buddy?' and that's that.02 Reply- 10 mo
And when I say care about spelling mistake I just mean reflectively upon myself. If someone else makes one I don't care. But with myself it annoys me because it's challenge for me.
Along with the fact I like writing, a lot can be fixed in post when it comes to a written work but I would have rather have my spellings just correct in the first place. - 10 mo
@Kaneki05 I know exactly how you feel. I too have dyslexia, it’s been a tremendous challenge to me to find the spelling errors and correct them. I know how it feels to want to challenge yourself to do better. When I find errors in my posts with the most simple of spelling mistakes, I legit wanna cry, because I think other’s will think that I’m functionally illiterate! I think those of us with dyslexia are a lot harder on ourselves, than the people we are writing to would ever be.
Take care.
Laura 🤗








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People can't grasp the fact that there are people whose first language isn't English. Sometimes I wonder people who form such opinions whose English is their 1st language, how many languages do they actually speak? And are their language skills in other languages they have learned as adequate as the person who made that "horrendous" mistake? Jesus fucking christ this is maddening52 Reply- 9 mo
I’m glad you learned well. I enjoy your opinions and questions but I just have to add I’ve hated hearing that from others because the same thing always popped in my mind consequentially.
It’s not a big deal whether English speakers know multiple languages or not. That’s trying to deflect in some way. It’s a simple matter of (and this is what I’ve actually told some in the past), nobody told you to learn it. It was demanded and if you’re going to learn it, then learn it. Don’t learn it halfway/ halfheartedly.
Just the same IF English-born speakers should try to learn another language, they should try to learn it in the authentic way. Learning one language should be either the goal to connect with other cultures and/pr with a respect for their culture in mind.
So many who learn English always seem to get mad at them and hate English speakers, which makes me wonder why they ever wanted to learn it in the first place.
I also have to add my personal irritation for the improper grammar is only with English-born speakers who have access to education here. This is the language they were brought up learning and should know it a bit better.
I also know while there’s a good handful of non-English speakers who do their best, there’s a lot who don’t care to perfect it, or give up easily and rather guess along the way. As usual with guys mostly, a bit higher in chance, they will have a bit more mistakes with theirs because of the lack of attention/ value in things like handwriting and such. I’ve seen women usually do a bit of a better job at these things.
It’s not exclusive, but that’s just what I noticed. - 9 mo
Sometimes you can just tell it’s laziness, and sometimes you can tell they’re trying their best.
Over time though I don’t care how anyone writes or types. From any culture. The disrespect is so high, and sometimes on here opinions just a bit far out, I just don’t care. I also paid more attention to my punctuation before, but I don’t do that.
Nonetheless, I see the difficulty and challenge in learning a new language. I’ve tried learning another language of my family, and I didn’t complete it, but I hate the excuse of anyone saying:
Well have YOU tried to do that, or you never tried. Sure, sympathy and understanding helps and is good, but if someone doesn’t understand, it doesn’t make it okay to just intentionally slack and then become defensive about shortcomings or minor- and I do mean MINOR errors that could’ve been avoided.
That’s all I meant. Seems like a big defensive maneuver over something small. Some get annoyed by the mistake because it seems too small to be made. Also I must close with this is BASIC English. It should be taught at level one in duolingo. I learned this in kindergarten or 1-2 grade of elementary. It wasn’t difficult at all, to grasp or forget.
It’s not something about when to say he or she or miss or how to form a sentence with nouns and verbs and all. This is SPELLING we’re taking about. It could be they didn't learn it, or they innocently forgot, but I just see it as carelessness. It used to bother me. But I don’t care anymore.
Sorry for any disagreement and your discomfort in seeing others who I admit say things in a wrong manner which worsens any good intentions or simple facts of matters.
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10 moMy auto correct on my iPad is dyslexic.
I can put in were and it autocorrects to we’re , it does some other random words as well. Then there is the bottle of wine and some Gin and Tonics, my grammar botheration level is none existent, as is my spelling.
then of course there is this thing on GaG of shoving a question mark after some words and assuming it makes a well formed question.you will often find that those who have English as a second language and have written as well as oral are often very good with grammar, whereas us native speakers are just really lazy lol.
10 ReplyCommon errors bug me a lot more than rare ones.
If someone misspells a particularly rare word I might not even notice, and even I'm not entirely sure how to correctly use a semicolon... but if they write "your" instead of "you're", I can't ignore it. I just can't.
Intention also matters somewhat. People who are obviously doing things out of laziness (like writing "u" instead of "you") annoy me a lot more than people who do things out of personal quirkiness.
But most important of all is repetition. Consistency. Someone who makes a mistake once just slipped. Someone who makes the same mistake constantly is likely misinformed. Someone who makes the same mistake constantly and gets hostile or dismissive when it is corrected is undoubtedly an irredeemable idiot.20 Reply- 10 mo
I am a stickler for the correct usage of languages (influenced by my jobs, but not only). It's a sign of both disrespect for others and for yourself to vomit out some error-laden word salad in the direction of readers. Non-native writers make mistakes, I get that, I had to learn e. g. English as a foreign language. But what's the excuse of people growing up with their native language? Too much television and not enough books in their parental home? Hell, read a newspaper once a week!
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I used to get upset about 'em. Not as much anymore since I now usually remind myself that a lot of people here aren't from English-speaking nations which kinda explains their errors.
Here's an "equivalent" yet not-entirely-similar question I posted about 5 years ago:
Can you please check your posts?
I, too, am guilty of failing to proof-read my opinions.
00 Reply It’s bothersome to see so I can’t say it “doesn’t matter” it does to s certain level. but I don’t automatically label the person stupid.
they likely didn’t pay attention in class when this was taught or have difficulty differentiating things such as these. i tent I refer or think of someone as stupid when they lack commonsense and just go with the herd because it’s what’s seems the “right” thing to do/say/or follow.
you can’t determine intelligence and stupidity based on how someone reads and writes but rather what they say and do.
One that bothers me more THAN the others is then and than. I’ll find it irritating but I won’t label you stupid for it.02 Reply- 10 mo
Or what’s above was automatically done by the iPhone assuming I means what is when it was actually simply “what” seems. Can’t judge people assuming they purposely did something when most of us can’t be bothered to reread everytime the iPhone automatically changed the word as you type it.
- Anonymous(45 Plus)10 mo
I don't have a problem with it. I know the difference between to, too, and two. And there and thier etc. And I have on occasion still put in the wrong one. Maybe I was typing to fast and it didn't occur to me till I re-read it later. Because I'll admit I do have a nasty habit of not proof reading my posts before entering. I just people are like me in that are. And as long as I can understand what they're trying convey I don't care. I hate grammar nazis.
For what it's worth I was a D student in English classes and most of my English teachers hated me. But I won a writing contest two years in a row when I was in school where they chose one student from each grade to go to a writers conference at the state college. I think it's worth noting I only entered twice. So maybe I suck with the mechanics, the punctuation. But I must not be too bad at making myself understood.
22 Reply- Opinion Owner10 mo
Hah! See I did it this time I as well. I said "typing to fast" and should've typed "too".😆
- Opinion Owner10 mo
As well as a few other errors.😜😆
- 10 mo
i think grammar police are stupid.
even teachers should only mark serious stuff but not in college, in casual writing those grammar police are just bossy n too judgmental. because people are less careful in casual.
in your picture "their" not underlined by spell check... therefore good enuf.
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If I audio text it will often put the wrong version. I'll correct it and it will change it back to incorrect. The ludicrous behaviors I have experienced with American English teachers leaves me completely nonjudgemental. If I know someone came from Europe/other and does mistakes I would think they were having a bad day and missed it.
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Poor grammar doesn't indicate stupidity to me. You can be very intelligent but lack writing skills and/or not have received or understood the lessons necessary for good grammar. Add to that the fact that English is particularly difficult, even as a native language. It seems to me that stupid people invariably have poor grammar, but having poor grammar doesn't necessarily mean you're stupid!
Other issues occur using voice to text programs, as on our phones. I don't always proof read the messages if I'm pressed for time, and they're often rife with grammatical errors! On the phone however, people are very aware of the "autocorrect demons" and you don't catch as much grief. LOL
00 Reply - 10 mo
I give them a hug and say, "There, their, they're, it'll be alright."
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I think they're poorly educated. One of my pet peeves is when some people think you make a noun plural by adding apostrophe -- s.
Example:
WRONG: The woman has two cat's.
CORRECT: The woman has two cats.10 Reply - 10 mo
If the point is understood, it doesn't matter, because the entire language is nonsensical in how it's structured anyway.
If effort was made to make it logical, then I'd care about minor grammatical errors. Until then it just needs to be legible.00 Reply As a secretary it bothers me, but I don't think it's that bad if someone doesn't know all the grammar rules. We are only human.
I think we have more important things that bug us, like America 🇺🇸 falling apart.00 Reply- 10 mo
I see grammar errors, which I personally try to avoid, but I also know that auto-correct very often changes what we type. I've seen auto-correct on some systems that seems to think that it's is a possessive of it.
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I don't think less of them.
It's just that they were probably just not taught that in school, or English might not be their first language.
The English language is pretty tough to learn.00 Reply- 10 mo
I've typed out stuff in a hurry plum. My autocorrect is 90% smart. Sometimes the dumbassness is there. Sometimes I correct it, sometimes I just let it ride. I look dumb. Idc. I know me
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SOMETIMES... the medium IS indicative of the Messenger's life experience---
10 Reply - 10 mo
I know I purposely don't use periods on what I say cause it slows down my typing lol
10 Reply - 10 mo
meh. it's a second language to me so i probably shouldn't complain too loudly about it xD
10 Reply - 10 mo
I don’t care about other people’s usage of grammar, but it does make it harder for me to understand then due to a language disorder
00 Reply - Anonymous(18-24)10 mo
Your right, their making me crazy with the bad grammer, its just awful 😕
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At least they have an idea of what they want to say. They at least have half of an education and maybe they can read cursive writing. When New Graduates come looking for jobs with their WOKE DEGREES they are not going to fare well!
00 Reply Grammar or education or lack of it means nothing to me. Everyone has something to give
10 Reply903 opinions shared on Education & Career topic. It makes me think the person is uneducated, careless, or both.
10 Reply- 10 mo
Mixture of both. It’s not the end of the world but if it is continuous and egregious I probably wouldn’t be amused
00 Reply 1.4K opinions shared on Education & Career topic. It is annoying, but we are only human. Mistakes happen.
00 ReplyYeah it does. But I know the difference between them and have still made the mistake. Did not know it until somebody told me.
00 Reply- 10 mo
Not necessarily stupid, but just ignorant perhaps.
Or perhaps it comes from texting so much. Like typing ty instead of thank you, etc.00 Reply Some mistakes or worst than others. But it bothers me some.
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10 moIt's quite annoying.
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10 moit doesn't really matter
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