If anyone has ever watched any type of animation the race of the animated character doesn't fit the origin of which the animated character was made such as Japan animation those aren't Japanese faces.. lol as far as Little mermaid and other american-made films why do we have to bother with what race The Little mermaid was I mean who sits back in thinks about this oh why is The Little mermaid white instead of black why is The Little mermaid not Asian lol
Apparently being original is dead so let's just reuse something from the past but just change the race and look of a few things and make a movie to make a quick buck even though it's shit compared to the original, there's nothing original anymore it's rare to find that kinda thing it's why I don't watch remakes of a lot movies unless I hear it's a real good movie or If I have an interest in it I won't waste my time or money watching something I know is going to be shit
I think it is fantastic. We need diversity in all aspects of life and changing the race, or gender of a character helps to lend a brand new life and look at it. Gives new perspectives and possibilities. We also have to remember these characters in which we hold to certain standards are them selfs made up. They could have been any combination of things before they were originally released.
Forced diversity isn't a good thing. If you want more characters that represent a specific race you should create new stories with original characters. Changing the character's race and making them unrecognizable completely ruins the movie/show and makes it seem like an unofficial spin off of the original. If the original character has light skin and red hair, the actressnthat plays them should have red hair and light skin. If the character is dark skinned with an afro the actor should look like them. Imagine if they gave mickey mouse oval ears, removed his gloves, and made him brown. It would not be a recognizable character anymore.
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Most of the time, race does not define the character and I'm good with it. But sometimes it does. Felix Leiter became black in Casino Royale and I thought Jeffrey Wright fit the part just as well as David Hedison did in earlier Bond films or maybe better. Ditto Naomie Harris as Moneypenny re-imagined from Lois Maxwell, but logical. But James Bond himself is a white male from the United Kingdom and I will not attend a Bond film that abandons that.
Bond's appearance varies too. When Pierce Brosnan, Sean Connery and many other actors played him, he had black hair. When Daniel Craig played him, he had blonde hair.
The differences are smaller, but still there. There's a difference between someone with an Italian/Spanish like appearance and Nordic one. Having a narrow small nose doesn't automatically make you look British, but it definitively makes you look European. Again, the UK is a diverse place. So having some blondes, brunettes etc. makes sense though.
@curiousnorway Not being sentimental, Craig is the best Bond of all. Had Dalton made more than two movies, he'd be shoulder to shoulder with Craig. Moore and Brosnan were buffoons, Lazenby was a fill in and Connery is The Godfather of Bonds. This is Ian Fleming's drawing of Bond en.wikipedia.org/.../File:Fleming007impression.jpg Looks like they had a ringer with Dalton.
Judging from the sketch I would say the majority of the dark haired actors match the Bond drawing to an extent appearance wise, but Daniel Craig didn't. I've not watched many Bond movies, so I can't tell. Since he looks Mediterranean, I think they could just keep the look in all of the movies. Craig could get his hair dyed darker and a tan.
@curiousnorway The next is his last. The next Bond will go back to taller and darker. I'm partial to Craig in part because we look alike including less than 6'0". Ironically, your neighbor looks more like the sketch than either.
Just feels like desperate racial brownie point farming. As in not caring whether it's cannon to their own. Works depiction and instead what will get the most promotion by minorities. And in a way just trying to manipulate the smaller racial groups support. It's kinda like the crummy awkward live actions of anime that Netflix pumps out every 2-4 years.
I think that unless it is written in the source material what a character specifically looks like (sex, ethnicity, physical characteristics etc) then it is open to interpretation. Example being a black lady cast as Hermione Granger is the Harry Potter stage play. Nowhere in the books does it state that Hernione is white. I think that is the reason so many adaptations state that they are "based on" a book as opposed to copying from it.
No problem with it basically if there working with a comic character the character might have been originally been created in less diverse times hence worth a change.
I do hate when they change the gender of a character if you really must change this go down the mirror universe route or just create a new character.
Well, it's a sign of changing demographics and changing audiences too. I wouldn't say I'm against it but my gut reaction is more just because "I don't like that actor over this actor" and race isn't the issue... it's just I thought a different actor in my head same race as say that black Mary Jane could've done a better job than the black actor they went with. So you know just saying, it's not about race, it's im picky about my actors. Lol.
So for me I'm not fussed... I just wish the actor they went with, could've done a better performance. But that's me being demanding and pushy, lols I can't act.
Don't care because I've given up movies and media since we're not in the pre-1980s, where musicians obsessed over music as art, and movies were about storytelling.
Society has become so narcissistic and greedy it's nothing more than a platform to shove belief down others' throats, and tell those who reach different conclusions why they're idiots for not believing as another does.
Depends on the character/story. A historical figure? I have a problem with it. Stick to how the character looked. If it’s just some anime, cartoon character or anything else, I literally don’t care, as long as it’s good, and if somewhat looks like them (so I can know who they are talking about by just looking at them)
As far as animation, what does it matter? As long as the voice actors speak English clearly
I think the most egregious thing is when they take an actual historical or mythical story, and just change the race of characters. They make Achilles West African and then they make the Ancient Egyptians Anglo-saxon, thats retarded and offensive. its appropriation 100%.
@ThisDudeHere Because the directors are making a conscious decision to alter the publics perspective of history. Most people understand history through movies. They are deliberately trying to alter the memory.
@ThisDudeHere Because they are altering the public perception of history and memory, which will affect how the public reacts against grievances of the native peoples.
You already see this sort of hollywood revisionism, all over and its had a negative affect on people perception of the past. In particular Europeans.
@ThisDudeHere I get what you are saying but the problem is no one gets offended and does something. Imagine if someone defiled the image of christ in a movie or show (Which happens every day on television) and christians went and just hung the director. Because what he did was offensive. No one else would portray him negatively or defile his image.
Wish European people were as easily as offended as other groups. They would be able to form collectives and inact change and protect their heritage
It really depends on what kind of character it is. If it's a historical character or a character based on a real person, then I have a problem with it. If it's a comic book, cartoon, anime, or literary character then as long as the actor/actress can actually pull off the role, I don't have any problem with it.
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I think it's dumb. The characters should be the race they were created as. It's better and more creative to make similar superheroes as different races or completely new ones that are all kinds of different races in my opinion, honestly I feel changing a characters race is actually pretty lazy
Why racist? If you white face black panther people would lose their minds. Fuck diversity. Give each race their own charecter the only reason I gave 2 fucks about titans was to see my cartoon crush in live action and they black faces her.
Its like black facing punished when they have blade. by the way where tf is my blade live action series that would be tits. Make it bloody it, d be great.
In short no don't black face character we know are supposed to be white. Make new characters only problem is we know you made them just to be woke asf. Black panther came into the marvel movies and managed to avoid that vibe And civil war was all the better with him in it. That is an example.
It's just wrong, if equality is to be taken seriously the characters should be treated as people and their heritage is part of the character not to be changed to get more people interested how can Pocahontis become white she's lost her background so not true to the point of the film
That isn't Pocahontas. It's Tiger Lily. Still... pasty-white Indians in Neverland make no sense. Disney allowed it, because they are embarrassed by the original cartoon's song "What Makes the Red Man Red."
I'm just going to be honest and say that as much as I don't care, I don't like it. I'm not racist, but changing a character's race makes them seem like an "off brand" version of that character. This goes for any race, whether Superman is being played by a black guy or Black Panther being played by an Asian guy.
It depends if the character's race is important to their story or not If an animated character is brought to life, I do like an actor who looks like them, it's interesting. But it's not always practical
Honestly I don't care, when I do care a bit is when a character is from a specific ethnic background where they have like traditional outfits or something like that like Asian, Native American, Indian, Middle Eastern or African or European or Latino.
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If anyone has ever watched any type of animation the race of the animated character doesn't fit the origin of which the animated character was made such as Japan animation those aren't Japanese faces.. lol as far as Little mermaid and other american-made films why do we have to bother with what race The Little mermaid was I mean who sits back in thinks about this oh why is The Little mermaid white instead of black why is The Little mermaid not Asian lol
Apparently being original is dead so let's just reuse something from the past but just change the race and look of a few things and make a movie to make a quick buck even though it's shit compared to the original, there's nothing original anymore it's rare to find that kinda thing it's why I don't watch remakes of a lot movies unless I hear it's a real good movie or If I have an interest in it I won't waste my time or money watching something I know is going to be shit
I think it is fantastic. We need diversity in all aspects of life and changing the race, or gender of a character helps to lend a brand new life and look at it. Gives new perspectives and possibilities. We also have to remember these characters in which we hold to certain standards are them selfs made up. They could have been any combination of things before they were originally released.
Dramatic much?
Haha, dramatic? No. Factual.
So what practically does diversity improve?
Forced diversity isn't a good thing. If you want more characters that represent a specific race you should create new stories with original characters. Changing the character's race and making them unrecognizable completely ruins the movie/show and makes it seem like an unofficial spin off of the original. If the original character has light skin and red hair, the actressnthat plays them should have red hair and light skin. If the character is dark skinned with an afro the actor should look like them. Imagine if they gave mickey mouse oval ears, removed his gloves, and made him brown. It would not be a recognizable character anymore.
Most of the time, race does not define the character and I'm good with it. But sometimes it does.
Felix Leiter became black in Casino Royale and I thought Jeffrey Wright fit the part just as well as David Hedison did in earlier Bond films or maybe better. Ditto Naomie Harris as Moneypenny re-imagined from Lois Maxwell, but logical.
But James Bond himself is a white male from the United Kingdom and I will not attend a Bond film that abandons that.
Bond's appearance varies too. When Pierce Brosnan, Sean Connery and many other actors played him, he had black hair. When Daniel Craig played him, he had blonde hair.
@curiousnorway
And every Bond was over 6'0 but Craig is 5'10' But they are all white males from the UK.
The differences are smaller, but still there. There's a difference between someone with an Italian/Spanish like appearance and Nordic one. Having a narrow small nose doesn't automatically make you look British, but it definitively makes you look European. Again, the UK is a diverse place. So having some blondes, brunettes etc. makes sense though.
@curiousnorway
Not being sentimental, Craig is the best Bond of all. Had Dalton made more than two movies, he'd be shoulder to shoulder with Craig. Moore and Brosnan were buffoons, Lazenby was a fill in and Connery is The Godfather of Bonds. This is Ian Fleming's drawing of Bond
en.wikipedia.org/.../File:Fleming007impression.jpg
Looks like they had a ringer with Dalton.
Judging from the sketch I would say the majority of the dark haired actors match the Bond drawing to an extent appearance wise, but Daniel Craig didn't. I've not watched many Bond movies, so I can't tell. Since he looks Mediterranean, I think they could just keep the look in all of the movies. Craig could get his hair dyed darker and a tan.
@curiousnorway The next is his last. The next Bond will go back to taller and darker.
I'm partial to Craig in part because we look alike including less than 6'0". Ironically, your neighbor looks more like the sketch than either.
The facial features, yes, it resemble more. Hair color, I don't know.
Just feels like desperate racial brownie point farming. As in not caring whether it's cannon to their own. Works depiction and instead what will get the most promotion by minorities. And in a way just trying to manipulate the smaller racial groups support. It's kinda like the crummy awkward live actions of anime that Netflix pumps out every 2-4 years.
I think that unless it is written in the source material what a character specifically looks like (sex, ethnicity, physical characteristics etc) then it is open to interpretation. Example being a black lady cast as Hermione Granger is the Harry Potter stage play. Nowhere in the books does it state that Hernione is white. I think that is the reason so many adaptations state that they are "based on" a book as opposed to copying from it.
No problem with it basically if there working with a comic character the character might have been originally been created in less diverse times hence worth a change.
I do hate when they change the gender of a character if you really must change this go down the mirror universe route or just create a new character.
Well, it's a sign of changing demographics and changing audiences too. I wouldn't say I'm against it but my gut reaction is more just because "I don't like that actor over this actor" and race isn't the issue... it's just I thought a different actor in my head same race as say that black Mary Jane could've done a better job than the black actor they went with. So you know just saying, it's not about race, it's im picky about my actors. Lol.
So for me I'm not fussed... I just wish the actor they went with, could've done a better performance. But that's me being demanding and pushy, lols I can't act.
In a generalised sense, not picking on any one movie or one actor. Just using hypotheticals.
Don't care because I've given up movies and media since we're not in the pre-1980s, where musicians obsessed over music as art, and movies were about storytelling.
Society has become so narcissistic and greedy it's nothing more than a platform to shove belief down others' throats, and tell those who reach different conclusions why they're idiots for not believing as another does.
Depends on the character/story.
A historical figure? I have a problem with it. Stick to how the character looked. If it’s just some anime, cartoon character or anything else, I literally don’t care, as long as it’s good, and if somewhat looks like them (so I can know who they are talking about by just looking at them)
Over 90% of canonically red-headed characters have now been portrayed by blacks.
I’ve seen a lot of memes about Hollywood hating red heads lol
Hollywood is full of fags and I don't just mean homos.
Racism all over again. Just its reversed this time.
Everyone talks about ending racism, but they all keep bring it up and pushing about change.
All that does is keep the hate going.
Ever notice if the Government or Hollywood get involved in something. All they do it make it worse.
Look in the 80s with the Governments war on drugs. It made Cocaine famous
As far as animation, what does it matter?
As long as the voice actors speak English clearly
I think the most egregious thing is when they take an actual historical or mythical story, and just change the race of characters. They make Achilles West African and then they make the Ancient Egyptians Anglo-saxon, thats retarded and offensive. its appropriation 100%.
It surely is stupid but how come offensive?
@ThisDudeHere Because the directors are making a conscious decision to alter the publics perspective of history.
Most people understand history through movies.
They are deliberately trying to alter the memory.
They are, indeed. But how is that offensive?
@ThisDudeHere Because they are altering the public perception of history and memory, which will affect how the public reacts against grievances of the native peoples.
You already see this sort of hollywood revisionism, all over and its had a negative affect on people perception of the past. In particular Europeans.
I fully agree and am not denying that. I just don't understand where the offense is. I don't really believe in taking offense.
@ThisDudeHere I get what you are saying but the problem is no one gets offended and does something.
Imagine if someone defiled the image of christ in a movie or show (Which happens every day on television) and christians went and just hung the director. Because what he did was offensive.
No one else would portray him negatively or defile his image.
Wish European people were as easily as offended as other groups. They would be able to form collectives and inact change and protect their heritage
It really depends on what kind of character it is. If it's a historical character or a character based on a real person, then I have a problem with it. If it's a comic book, cartoon, anime, or literary character then as long as the actor/actress can actually pull off the role, I don't have any problem with it.
I think it's dumb. The characters should be the race they were created as. It's better and more creative to make similar superheroes as different races or completely new ones that are all kinds of different races in my opinion, honestly I feel changing a characters race is actually pretty lazy
I call it bullshit.
And racist.
Racist bullshit.
Why racist?
If you white face black panther people would lose their minds. Fuck diversity. Give each race their own charecter the only reason I gave 2 fucks about titans was to see my cartoon crush in live action and they black faces her.
Its like black facing punished when they have blade. by the way where tf is my blade live action series that would be tits. Make it bloody it, d be great.
In short no don't black face character we know are supposed to be white. Make new characters only problem is we know you made them just to be woke asf. Black panther came into the marvel movies and managed to avoid that vibe
And civil war was all the better with him in it. That is an example.
It's just wrong, if equality is to be taken seriously the characters should be treated as people and their heritage is part of the character not to be changed to get more people interested how can Pocahontis become white she's lost her background so not true to the point of the film
That isn't Pocahontas. It's Tiger Lily. Still... pasty-white Indians in Neverland make no sense. Disney allowed it, because they are embarrassed by the original cartoon's song "What Makes the Red Man Red."
I'm just going to be honest and say that as much as I don't care, I don't like it. I'm not racist, but changing a character's race makes them seem like an "off brand" version of that character. This goes for any race, whether Superman is being played by a black guy or Black Panther being played by an Asian guy.
It depends if the character's race is important to their story or not
If an animated character is brought to life, I do like an actor who looks like them, it's interesting. But it's not always practical
Honestly I don't care, when I do care a bit is when a character is from a specific ethnic background where they have like traditional outfits or something like that like Asian, Native American, Indian, Middle Eastern or African or European or Latino.