Some comedians jokes border on hatespeech though. It's okay not listening to their jokes, but jokes get spread around , so you're gonna hear them anyway.
Also, say for example if a comedian told racist jokes and it was widely accepted, that would eventually set a precedent. Gradually those types of jokes would be told in school , colleges and workplaces etc. Eventually hatespeach would be accepted and nothing could be done about it. Bullies would thrive and have total control over their victims
If it's against the law to say racist comments in general , then it's not okay to tell racist jokes just because you are a comedian. They don't deserve special privileges. They aren't above anyone else. Society is either for or against racism; you can't have it both ways. You can't allow a comedian to say anything he wants, but then when you repeat his jokes in college, school, work or out in public.. you're fired, suspended or taken to court over it.
I heard a joke a few weeks ago (which was told by a comedian) He was taking the piss out of soldiers that had their legs blown off by ISIS.
If a comedian needs to tell such jokes at the expense of other people's suffering , feelings and downfall... he is not a good comedian. I don't believe anyone has the right to say what they want. We need a society that won't allow certain types of speech. If we didn't, vulnerable people would suffer at the hands of bullies and unstable people.
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I don't think there's much that's off-limits if you just take timing and context into consideration. You also have to be a pretty skilled comedian to land a good dark joke that doesn't make you seem like the asshole in the situation, but the person merely making dark social commentary in a skilled and tactful way. Y'know? Very few people can actually do that in a way that is a) actually funny and b) doesn't make them seem like the asshole who's just punching down.
However, I'm tired of people making shitty and hurtful "jokes" under the guise of "omg it's just a joke calm down". If comedians are allowed to make shitty jokes, we're also allowed to criticize said shitty jokes. Freedom of speech goes both ways.
Everything can be joked about longs if it is just not mean for the sake of it. Basically it has to be joke it cannot be snarky hateful comment put as a joke.
Then another example of why things can be joked about so take suicide for example you may not see that as it can be joked about, but people who are suicidal actaully cope better by joking about it. My friend actaully killed herself 2 months ago it hurts like hell of course. But i still joke about suicide.
personally for me tho i will get touchy around rape jokes but i would just handle it by ignoring it and that's the thing you can just ignore jokes you don't like so no problems. Even tho i don't mind some rape jokes it depends how cleaver they are or if done in a way but yeah too many or a snarky one will set me off but so would all snarky jokes. That are just mean for the sake of it.
(american dad and south park and cartoons like these have rape jokes that i find funny because of the way there done and you can tell it's not trying to be hurtful to anyone)
Anyway lol, so everything and everything just don't be ignorant about it, and if someone is uncomfortable with you making that joke ethier you stop or the other person ignores it and walks away.
And people who have personally expericened what they are joking about can defo joke about it.
It is like Free Speech, everyone is in favour of Free Speech but is there a line that is too far and who decides where it is.
I don't shut it down but there are definitely times where I feel a comedian has gone too far. They have to live with themselves. I saw a comedian do an experiment on stage once (recorded for TV), he said I am going to try and offend you with increasingly offensive jokes, it was amazing how blase the audience it took him about 8 or 9 really ripe jokes to get a loud "Ohhhh" from the audience.
It is like when you are with friends joking around, you go certain places and not others depending on who you talk to. So as opposed to "Know Your Audience" you could do "Know your Comic", if you are offended by certain references don't go looking for them.
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Yes, anything about hurting people, about murder, about rape, about incest or people’s parents and family, about the dead, racist jokes, jokes about illnesses or medical conditions or special needs, jokes about people who have become incapacitated, jokes about someone’s weight because it can lead to eating disorders either in the subject or the sources who will hear these comments, and also about features of a person’s face because it can be seen as bullying which can manifest into insecurities and eventually body dysmorphia and seeking cosmetic surgery.
I personally enjoy dark humour. We don't want political correctness to ruin comedy. Modern people are such snowflakes. They need to grow a thicker skin and lighten up a bit. There are so many comedy videos from the past which would create a war today. It's insane that employees are getting fired over tweets whilst real criminals like murderers and drug dealers walk freely. People nowadays only fight against symbolic evil like tweets not actual people like murders where people get physically hurt.
Depends on the humor (not JOKE, OK? Difference!!) and sometimes using some sarcasm, or some humorous things, draws people's attention to things that they purposely avoid.
I think Carlos Mencia did this well, with racial issues, and handicap issues!
Sometimes things seem so hard, and difficult to approach, and deal with, but a little humor, to just 'break the tension' might help start the discussion, or conversation.The purpose of humor is to analyze things and bring up things that your not "allowed" to say in any other context. So their is no, and I mean NO topic or subject that cannot be joked about, its why it exists to begin with (to make light of terrible things so we can cope with them better, to create satire to mock political and social climates/ideas/etc. in order to help critique or out right criticize them when those critiques would otherwise be "unpalatable" to some people.).
“There’s no such thing as an inappropriate joke. That’s why it’s a joke.”
”Sometimes jokes are ways to air out the ugly things people think.”
Quotes aside, I think you can glean what the person believes if they make racist, sexist, prejudiced jokes. To me they’re not funny and the only ones who would likely find them funny are those who are sympathetic to such prejudices.
So say whatever jokes you want but it speaks to that person’s character in my opinion.We shouldn't joke about the size of a guy's dick as they are very sensitive about it, especially if they are not up to specs. So calling them pencil dick, short stuff, or referring to their pride and joy as a teenie weenie is not Kosher. Otherwise, jokes like "What is smaller than a teenie weenie ant? An ant's teenie weenie! it's fine as long as you don't mention names.
Nope! I joke about everything, there are very sensetive people out and they don't know why they are sensetive and am not stopping even if they knew why they are sensetive. Move along if you don't like my jokes, am not forcing you to hear my joke and you can't force me to stop telling jokes.
It’s possible to say there shouldn’t be subjects that can’t be joked about, but impossible to enforce unless you go around making it known to people every time they bring it up. Humour is subjective so many ways and things to joke about. I would also add it’s down to the individuals to judge the correct time and place to express the humour they have. Also to express it to the right people and in the right way.
The only things that should never be joked about is harming others. Outside of threats of harm to self or others, ALL speech should be free. People can choose not to listen just like people should be able to say what they choose without being berated for it, even if it is something bad being said.
I think that nobody should ever joke about something that the know will offend or emotionally harm someone or a certain population. By this, I don't mean that you should avoid telling the truth in order to spare someone's feelings. What I mean is, you do not ever bully or look for excuses to bully. Being mean through a joke is pretty much the same as bullying, which is profiting at the expense of someone else.
The only difference between a comedian and an every day person joking about something is that comedians get paid for it and they don't usually cross a line, because they are being paid. People can joke about whatever they want, just as comedians can, but consequences come with that.
I think people only get offended at stuff they have personal experience with.
I think we all should take a step back sometimes and find the time to laugh at ourselves.
No topic should go untouched.Nobody should ever joke or criticize anything related to my culture, race, age, sex, marital status, health, income, political views, food preferences, tv viewing habits, internet usage, state of mind, or even my presence at all being neither here nor there. But all the rest of you boomer right-wing-christian-conservative cracker fatass homeless retarded couch-potato SJW n** faggots can go fuck yourself.
No topic should be off limits, that direction leads to all sorts of stupid laws and impediments to freedom.
You don't like a joke? DON'T LAUGH.
If other people are laughing?
BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT.Easily-offended people should be constantly-offended people. They're miserable people, and I have no intention of being miserable along with them. They can either grow thicker skin, keep their asses in their safe space, or come on out and get all pissy-pantsed so I can laugh at them, too
No one has a duty or obligation to not joke about anything. That's what "should" means in this case. So no.
It may be in poor taste, it may be too soon, it may be to the wrong crowd, it may not be funny. But there's no "should" when it comes to jokes one way or the other. You don't have a duty to joke or not joke about something.It depends how intense the joke is. A light joke is fine for any topic, Full blown belly laughter jokes are inappropriate for themes about rape, abuse and mentally ill people.
No. If I did I would have to question why I am afraid of someone's else's words. And if I'm afraid of a person's words, my belief system must be hanging on by a thread.
Individuals that aren’t your friends or famous shouldn’t be joked about. I also think some jokes just take it too far/aren’t really jokes anymore. Other than that, no subject is off limits in my opinion.
@MysteriousDarkness that is what they concluded, yes. When observing the actions of those who were violent who also played a particular game before the incident, had been found with other causes for their behaviors, including domestic abuse, psychopathic tendencies, and external and emotional trauma.
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