Kids dont ask to be here, the parents are the ones that wanted them here so its the parents responsibilty to take care of them.
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Absolutely not! That is actually smart. Too many parents will have kids and refuse to take care of them. That’s why I wish society would stop pressuring everyone to have kids when most of us know we won’t make good parents. That’s why our world is shit.
I agree
So your parents should still be taking care of you at 38? Who’s taking care of them since their money is funding another adults lifestyle? Because it would cost incrementally more than it would for let’s say a child’s school books or lunch money; we’re talking about bills and groceries now. Then what about your family? Your kids, your wife, do you pay for them while your parents still fund you or what?
Parents only responsible for their child only, where are you getting grandkids and wife from? You’re responsible for your own kids, simple , what’s so hard to understand?
Yes, that is correct
The grandparents should’ve left enough money to fund the parents
You said you think that “we shouldn’t have kids unless we plan to take care of them FOR THE REST OF THE LIFE”, and not just as a child, right? A child is going to get older, and become your age one day, correct? So who takes care of who forever? By taking care of you, they are taking care of your family, your kids, because they are still paying for you. I can not break down or simplify that fact any more. Your logic here is lacking.
What job affords an entire generation for every single parent? Hm? Because if grandparents fund you, that means you don’t have to work, so who funds your kids as they get older? What about when they have their own kids? Because by your logic, you should be taking care of them forever as well, and them take care of their kids forever too. This needs to be and endless flow of cash which will never ever happen.
Shouldve never had kids then
That doesn’t answer any of my questions but ok lol don’t respond anymore please, I’d rather not speak every week.
If you can't pay for your kids life then don't have kids. If they can't pay for their own kids life, they shouldn't have any either.. simple dummy.
So you’re paying for your grandkids and their kids? Or do YOU not just have children? Answer that, DUMBASS
Paying for my kids life whatever that entails
Yup I’m paying for all of them that’s why I’m not having kids cause I don’t have enough money for that…if they become self sufficient, cool but that’s not a guarantee
That’s so stupid lol you want your parents to take care of you because you’re lazy, let’s be honest. You’re tired of work and wish they afforded you a work free life.
You’ll buy a pet and pay for everything but your own blood, no…you make them suffer in this world. It’s not about being lazy, it’s about being in this world and you didn’t ask to be here. People gotta deal with diseases, disabilities, homelessness all because they didn’t ask to be here. It’s selfish to have kids because you want them and make them struggle in life. Life is not beautiful for a lot of people.
Are you genuinely comparing people to pets? Can a pet get up and go to work? Talk? Provide anything for themselves besides the food they’d have to hunt for on the street? Nope! That logic does not work. What a parent could and SHOULD do if they bring a child into this world is to prepare them for adulthood. Put them through school if they can afford it, teach them how to survive on their own. Sorry if you haven’t made the most out of your adulthood but blaming your parents for not being rich and able to pay for you or for having you in general doesn’t change your situation. I guess with your logic not another baby should be born on this earth because unless you’ve got millions in the bank you can’t afford to pay for someone their entire life.
You’re not getting the principal with the pets statement. I’m only blaming my parents cause I never wanted to be here and deal with the bullshit. I’m not having kids because I can’t afford them and I don’t want them to struggle, have a disease, disability and possibly kill themselves because I couldn’t provide for them.
And none of your adult life choices contributed to what you’re dealing with? Come on. Parents can pave the way for you with gold but if you don’t do something with what you were given then what happens going forward become a choice.
There’s no true principle with the pet comparison because an animal quite literally cannot take care of itself but you, a human, can. On top of that, caring for the average pet (assuming they have no medical issues) is astronomically cheaper than a human. Pets only require occasional vet visits but aside from that, a bag of dog food or a new water bowl is far less than braces, clothes, lunch money, gas money (for teens who aren’t working and have a car their parents either saved to buy or handed down), shoes, school dances, etc etc etc., so the comparison between the two just doesn’t work.
If you believe that at your age your parents should still be taking care of you then that’s your prerogative but I just find it lazy and selfish because of the sacrifices they’d have to make to take care of you in your 40s and so on. Like I said, not another baby should be born into this world if the expectation were that you’d need to take care of them their whole life.
Disability has nothing to do with how much money you have. Disease and mental illness can’t be paid off with riches either. You’re blaming things that are out of someone’s control on how well their parents funded their upbringing, and that makes no sense. I mean look at Michael Strahan’s daughter, fighting a cancer that all the money in the world couldn’t spare her from. He has tons of money to take care of her, but does that take away her illness? Or her depression because of her struggles? Nope.
That should be the expectation to take care of them their whole life. What if the person you brought into this world is disabled and can’t work, you’re just gonna kick them to their curb? Or are you going to take care of them their whole life?
So you’re saying you rather kick a human to the curb than a dumb ass pet?
That comparison doesn’t work either. A disabled person who physically and/or mentally cannot take care of themselves is not the same as an able bodied grown man like yourself.
Gaslighting me like that does not help your talking points by the way.
You have to take care of them for the rest of their life though right? Meaning you have to be prepared for that as a parent. For the pets part you’re saying they can’t take care of themselves so I’m asking if you rather kick your son or daughter to the curb rather than that pet?
Why would I have to kick my son or daughter to the curb to take care of an animal? Where is the correlation? Yes, a DISABLED person who cannot take care of themselves would require caretaking for the rest of their lives, but that is because they have no other choice. What is your excuse? Are you disabled or unable to care for yourself? Exactly. This comparison doesn’t work, neither of them do. On top of that, what person gets pregnant and saves for the small margin of an opportunity that their child would be disabled to the point of not being able to care for themselves? Tell me someone you know who got pregnant and said “let me sock some cash away in case my child is physically disabled for whatever reason”. Nobody does that! You cannot be that irrational in your logic.
I’m tired of this convo…you haven’t convinced me that they way I think is wrong…take care
I asked to be done with the conversation yesterday, and I’m not trying to convince you of anything, it’s just a chat. See ya!
No you are not wrong,
always plan first, should be ready physically and financially and time