Why do females think they should be told how pretty they are, and tell each other how pretty they are, just because they spent half an hour straightening their hair and another ten minutes on makeup? ... when the same chick is 5'5" and weighs 180 lb. or thirteen stone or whatever? Shouldn't they be focusing on things that actually matter in terms of attractiveness, such as exercising and eating healthily in order to lose weight, instead of low-effort short-term stuff that isn't important?Guys, on the other hand, don't get a haircut if we're chunky and then think like "oh man now I'm hot and deserve a lot of Insta likes." We get off our butt and go to the gym and stop eating pizza as much. It's really not complicated.
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This was a rhetorical question, people. It's not something anyone with sense is actually confused about.
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Thank you for all the people who are smart enough to know that everything I said is true, and that it's a problem for the dating pool.
Why do girls focus on details of their looks like hair, nails, makeup, and think those things matter, rather than actually important stuff-- weight?
Those things are much easier for a female to control and handle than something like weight and body type. There's a lot more to a female's weight that's so easily affected than something as simple as curling their hair, putting on makeup, or getting their nails done. You have to consider adolescents and their physical and psychological development and how it effects their mindset and mental health at the age they are currently at. Weight gain for women is biologically different from men and is much easier to do considering the struggles women face. I'm not saying men don't go their own set of difficulties and struggles but its scientifically proven to have different results between the 2 sexes. And it's more more biologically common for women to gain weight and let go of their physical health that's a representation of their emotional health. It's like asking a guy why it seems to be so much easier for them to play video games and watch sports instead of dealing with deep insecurities and spending hours every day fixing internal problems. It's just how women deal with stress differently.
There have been tons of studies done that address this question and that's my summary of the ones I've read so far. Women deal with stress, anxiety, and trauma differently than men so and binge eating foods that have higher calories is a VERY normal response for women. Also women require more of certain foods that contain more fats, carbohydrates, and calories typically because of menstrual cycles. If you actually bother to do research into women's health you'd probably be surprised at what happens with women physically both biologically.
(squints and pinches the bridge of nose in obvious mental discomfort) ... Okay. Absolving bad behavior with the catch-all of "it's normal" is not logical, or relevant, or anything. --If you scream in my face, "IT'S NORMAL" for me to want to punch you. That's a normal response. Why are you suggesting that laziness and poor choices are not a big deal because they're "normal," when they clearly and demonstrably and objectively lead to bad results? It isn't a matter of psychology, gal. Yes, overriding *your most base instincts of apathy and gluttony* in order to improve as a person does take effort. Correct. Great. Stellar assessment and justification of laziness and obesity here, mate.
I'm not justifying being unhealthy as being good and a right lifestyle lol. I'm just explaining this issue is a thing in our society. There are many unhealthy and rather bad or wrong things within our culture or society yet that have been deemed normal and ok because of the sheer amount of people who consider it normal. The phrase normal in a social sense is based on a percentage of people who find or participate in that attribute. Homosexuality used to be considered wrong and totally not normal until society changed and now even the dsm-5 has changed its stance on the once abnormal behavior. Being overweight doesn't mean a person is truly unhealthy and really, measuring someone's body for health factors doesn't have a universal standard for measurements or exact numbers. Its a spectrum for people. But there are very obvious people who are very unhealthy because of their weight and thats a sad thing. We shouldn't be glorifying body types like morbid obesity or anorexia and neither should we shame them. We should be encouraging all body types to strive for healthy standards of living which most definitely includes exercising.
Over eating, exercise, and over all physical health actually does involve a great deal of psychology. It's the foundation for living a healthy life. So in order for people to begin to do physical things to change their lives in a healthy manner it must first start within the mind. People have to go through a lot of mental and emotional things sometimes before they can even step foot in a gym or begin to eat healthier foods or cut back on their portions
because girls regardless of their size. who act or dress like trashy sluts. are more likely to get attention from more guys. when it comes to modern hookup culture. so they have a high chance of getting sex.
however might not always be the attention they want or from the type of guys they want.
because guys who are looking for a long term relationship. don't often go for those types of girls.
many bigger girls use words like curvy, thick, voluptuous or plus size. to make themselves feel better about their size. or hide the fact that in reality they are just unhealthy.
weight lose is roughly 80% diet and 20% exercise. if you cut back on sugar, breads, pastas, dairy and only junk foods. the average person can lose up to 50 pounds or more in a year. with little or no extra daily exercise required.
now getting more fit, defined or reducing extra skin. often requires more muscle tone and exercise. along with healthier planning for meal and drink options.
the list of desirable females is always decreasing. because they look unattractive / act like stuck up prudes / are sluts who jump from one dick to the next or are already taking by another guy. part of why many guys opted out of dating all together.
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or they end up dating trans girls because many of them. tend to be more traditional feminine then modern girls do.
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Feminism.
You can't judge anyone on their looks anymore otherwise a bunch of women and their friends will scream at you and attempt to shame you.
It's ironic because they're all putting effort into how they look in other ways.
They have their "body positivity" and other flowery words that make them all feel more included in the pool of desirability and less uncomfortable with themselves.
Well, it's not REAL feminism, like being able to vote and get medical care, it's bullshit nonsense feminism. It's "feminism." As in, entitled morons thinking they should be able to do whatever they want and the world should bend to suit them.
Who says they’re not focusing on managing their weight while practicing and maintaining good healthy hygiene habits that make you feel and look good. Losing weight takes time and discipline. You won’t notice results as fast as styling your hair and applying mascara. What’s the opposite of actually caring about all this? They care about their appearance. That’s no red flag right there. Maybe, instead, create a mytake on diet and exercise. Some people struggle to lose weight because they don’t know how.
Nice question! I guess nowadays everyone says "be yourself and feel confident in your skin no matter what"! One doesn't even dare anymore telling someone they're fat! That's very bad!! One SHOULD tell people they are too fat in order to move their bums and to do something about it! I am not even speaking in an aesthetical way but in order for THEM to have a healthier and longer life without all the extra meds that they'll require if they don't loose weight... I don't know, many people just live in denial because one cannot be truthful anymore! 😕
Because losing weight is hard, it requires more than just surface-level adjustments. You need motivation, energy, and time to lose weight. Not everyone is up for the challenge, so they believe making small adjustments to their appearance will make them appear now attractive.
Because a girl can own it in whatever way she want and be proud to walk out feeling herself. She does not need the world's permission to feel and be beautiful.
Beauty is all around no matter what size, shape, number, and form
people can be in a heavy weight size/number due to different things such as depression, medical reasons, or etc.
make up is part of our accessory and an art, plus it's fun.
everyone has their own views what is "attractive" / "healthy" and it seems both genders might hold a different perspective each their own.
Personally, the more weight I gained the more makeup I put on my face since I knew I was getting less attractive and I was desperate to hide it. I decided to wake the fuck up eventually and I already lost 25 pounds! (I was about 136 pounds at my heaviest). Answering your question, I was suffering from depression and I had little control over my body. Things like makeup and hair stuff are so much easier to do and don't take as much effort as losing weight.
Those things are easier than maintaining a healthy weight for most people. However I wouldn't agree that men are any better in this regard. Most men just don't do anything to improve their appearance & then expect women to be equally attracted to them, as they are to women.
Taking reference back to the question that was trending a week or so ago about how much time people put into getting ready. Majority of men said they basically rolled out of bed and went. Like I'm sorry but if most men womt even take care of their basic daily hygiene then I dont want to hear shit about my being overweight.
Oh they most certainly are related. I'm sorry but a guy I can not be attractive to me if he can't even bother to brush his teeth in the morning and has breath that smells like the devils ass. To me that doesn't matter how much you work out l, eat right, if you can't perform basic hygiene its unattractive.
They would rather do something that takes less effort. It takes a ton of time to lose all that weight, whereas you can just spend a little on makeup to make your eyes sparkle.
Well for me i focus on weight and balance my diet take pilates than all those so not everyone is into that i have seen my age like that and ill say im the only one in class like that
Well it’s simple. They enjoy sitting infront of a mirror applying colourful products to themselves. Exercise tho? Giving up sweets? Now that’s hard work.
yeah tho to all you ladies out there, lose the make up, lose the fancy nails, and go on a run. Substance is more important than appearance and I know I don’t speak for all men but me personally I could give less of a fuck what products a girl is using, I just want her to be healthy and that means not being fat
Mention which part? That it's not up to you to decide? Your statement is very unclear. Not that it matters. You said your question is rhetorical? That's because you believe you already have the answer? You have control over you and your own choices. Not her and her choices. My choice would be to focus on my health. But I can't make that choice for her.
You know 180pounds and 5'5 isn't that big right? I'm 5'4 and 150 pounds...
My question is why are you so concerned with other peoples weight?
30-second rule, if the person can't fix what is wrong in the next 30 seconds, don't mention it. Things that can be fixed: food in teeth, make up running, attitude.
Things that cannot be fixed and is none of your damn business: weight.
Uh, 180 lb. at 5'5" is massive. You aren't living in objective reality if you think otherwise. You're also not living in reality if you think that weight can't be changed, like my God that's astounding. I might as well believe that cancer doesn't exist just because I don't like cancer, or anything else that's utter nonsense and not based in fact. Do you know what a "logical fallacy" is?
... I know what a pound-to-Kg conversion is. Implying that the weight isn't very much because you converted it into kg instead of pounds is... well, absurd. A girl who is 5'5" and 180 pounds is a minimum of thirty pounds overweight, or an extra 20% on top of what her actual healthy weight would be. Again, your body yourself being "pretty average" is completely and utterly irrelevant-- all that means is that the average female is overweight, which, regrettably, she is. At least in the West. If "the average guy" in Country X is seven feet tall, that's still very very tall for a human, regardless of whether it's the average or not. Saying that it's "the average" doesn't mean anything. All that means is that the average is bad.
And since you avoided mentioning whether you know what a "logical fallacy" is, or not, suggests that you don't. There are many kinds of logical fallacy-- one of them is the classic one you just employed, of "why do you care," which is closest to an ad hominem logical fallacy. It doesn't matter why I care, or don't care, because the issue itself isn't about me, the asker; it's about the fat females that the question is regarding. "I have cancer, and cancer is bad." "Why do you care?" ... as though asking why I care that cancer is bad will somehow make the cancer go away.
All I pretty much said was that you have no right to be commenting on others weight? They know what their weight is. They don't need a stranger telling them and making them feel like shit
@MissLlyn Yeah see, the point is that there are barely any of them out there, because indeed, the "average" female is overweight. Because they're focusing on their hair being styled instead of exercising and eating healthily. "Just date slim girls" awesome, can I get ten thousand dollars too while I'm at it, just because?
Actually I do have that right. If you don't want to be corrected don't put out false information. If you do put out false information by mistake and are proven wrong admit you are wrong and move on instead of changing the conversation to something that makes you feel better about yourself in your pretend land safe space.
Big and massive are not interchangeable. Big refers to the dimensions of the object or size. Massive refers to the mass or weight/density of an object.
I don't think the term massive has a select weight. It's up to individuals opinion. You may think it's massive but others like myself and @MissLlyn think otherwise.
Umm... yeah, you're wrong. I can think the world is flat too-- I would be wrong. There's this nice thing called "objective reality" that we all live in, including you.
Massive is a descriptive word. It's used to describe something or a group. Therefore it is actually up to personal opinion. My take on massive is much different to yours. That's ok. People can have differing opinions, basically what this site is about. No?
Because just because a person is overweight does not mean they can not be Attractive,... Weight is more about overall health more than about being pretty or not. If you don't like overweight women, don't date em, but don't think they can't wear make-up or that they can't be pretty just cuz you don't think so... And one question? How do you know they don't try to work out or watch what they eat? They could be working on their weight, weight loss does take time you know, it don't happen overnight... But why people spend so much time worrying about other people instead of just worrying about themselves is beyond me 🤷🏼♀️
"Because just because a person is overweight does not mean they can not be Attractive" Yes, it does. "Weight is more about overall health more than about being pretty or not" uhhh... they're intertwined. "How do you know they don't try to work out or watch what they eat" ... Obviously they're doing it wrong if they look like ^ her up there. If she was actually at the beginning of her weight loss journey, then she (and others like her) wouldn't be reveling in her disgusting weight by wearing a "fat bitch" shirt, as though that's like cute or something. "why people spend so much time worrying about other people instead of just worrying about themselves" yayyyy, yet another person who doesn't know what a "logical fallacy" is. This may be a record for a single post.
Whatever... Point is... Worry about YOUR OWN flaws... Oh let me guess, YOU don't have any, you're Mr. perfect, right? And umm, do know what logical fallacy means, do you? Or you just another throwing words out without really knowing what it means... Cuz how logical is it for you to think YOU have a right to tell others how to live, what to wear, etc... Again work on your own self, and let others do the same 🙂
This culture of fat acceptance is going in a bad direction. These women who want to remain fat are shooting themselves in the foot. Add that to the socialist, anti-sexual expression, anti-pornography, rich hating, beauty hating, cancel culture, etc, and you've got a dangerous mix.
I think most people have almost had it with this madness. Society is getting closer and closer to it's boiling point. This is likely to not end well for this new breed of pro-socialism conservatives.
Uhhh... you started fine and then went off the rails. No idea what you're talking about with "socialism" up in here in a topic about females being fat and lazy, but okay dude.
Um because they want to? The idea that girls dress up or wear makeup, because they want to be considered pretty or attract is preposterous. Makeup is a means of artistic expression
Because those things don't require much work or effort to change. No one has gotten obese through hard work and exercise. Sadly most are stuck in an endless negative feedback loop of depression, where their self image feeds their depression, leads to over eating, and lowers their self image. Joy is the cure for depression, but True Joy is only found with Christ.
To some people weight doesn't matter. For you to say that weight is ther only thing that matters is pretty judgmental. Quite frankly I've seen bigger girls that are far more attractive than skinny girls. This whole subject in general is subjective anyway. What matters to some doesn't matter to others.
Yeah, man... no, it isn't subjective. The nature of human attraction has been, you know... what's the word, oh right, studied. There are data. There are statistics. There are features and aesthetic that have been *proven* to be pleasing to, and sought-after by, humans. And there are ones that have been proven to be the opposite. Adiposity, or fat, is one of the negative things. You're literally not living in reality. Perhaps you have seen couples of fat people together, or one person skinnyish and one person fat (usually the female), and that's exactly what I'm talking about-- those guys that are with the fat girls are often not actually particularly attracted to the fat girl. The overall dating pool utterly sucks because so many females refuse to lose weight-- fat girls get guys because guys have the strong biological imperative to have sex, and *we don't have a better option out there other than the fat girl so that's what many of us pick.* Don't live in non-reality dude.
The girl in the picture is somewhat attracted to me. My only issue would be that when she hits 35 she will probably need one of those electric scooters and will trade her significant other as a slave because she's too lazy to get up off of her ass. Her car will probably smell like BO and ketchup if it doesn't already.
Changing your weight is a long term thing. Changing your hair or nails is a short term thing. You can do both simultaneously. You have no idea if the girl in that photo is currently on a diet and active workout schedule.
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