Why do girls focus on details of their looks like hair, nails, makeup, and think those things matter, rather than actually important stuff-- weight? (Page 2)
God damn are we bigger girls not allowed to fucking breath any more? I will put on makeup and dress nice! Because I'm bigger I should just not care? 🙄😪
By the way I AM on a health journey so don't push that "health" agenda at me
Bigger people should be allowed to dress proper and feel confident while taking steps to be healthy.
I'm not "pushing" anything. And "why do you care" is a logical fallacy, the same as the other chick asked. It isn't about me. Nighttime is still dark, whether I care about it or not. My care, or lack thereof, is irrelevant. If you're taking steps to lose weight, then great, good luck.
If you understood more about dating, which you apparently don't, then you would understand why it matters to other people, and wouldn't need to ask in the first place. Spare me.
Because applying nail polish is easier than doing exercise and eating healthy.
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With all due respect.
When you Don't know the whole story, you should probably just stfu!
Do you know that weight problems are even linked with psychological problems, or with certain medication "that makes the person gain weight"? You probably didn't.
So let her be cute and feel good about herself rather than shaming her for how she's living her life as well as her weight, and mind your own business, no one is asking you to look at her or be attracted to her, or even be with/near her.
When people would start minding their own business for God's sake!
Hi. You're really suggesting that more than 100 million Americans have quasi-defined "medical problems" that make them fat? Wow. That's a hell of a lot of the population. If what you're saying is correct, and it's not due to simple poor life choices, like eating too much and not exercising, then why wasn't a third of the American population obese or fat in centuries past?
its easier to change the details i guess... oh and if you didn't want answes to what you now claim to be a rhetorical question you may well have been better to do a my take rather than ask a question... thats what the my take option is for
There's no substantive difference between the two, mate. One has a question mark at the end and one doesn't. I obviously wanted commentary or I wouldn't have asked it in the first place. It is a rhetorical question.
I understand, what I'm saying is I want commentary, but the idiots saying "why do you care" are... well, idiots. There's no arguing with objective fact.
We just think differently from guys. While for you our hair is barely noticeable for us is a relevant thing, and a lot of women want pretty nails. Plus it is easier than doing bigger efforts like exercise or reduce ingestion.
Bullshit. Most women will lose weight, or attempt to because most people don't know what they are doing, and not every guy goes to the gym whether he wants to lose weight or not. A gym isn't required to lose weight.
... Uh... I didn't say that a gym was required to lose weight, or even suggest it. I was using it as an easy example of something that people often do when they do want to exercise more and lose weight... which they do.
Your example is saying men would do that as opposed to women that apparently focus more on makeup than "losing weight". Are there women like that? Sure. If most women are like that wherever you are, then you must live in a shit hole. Most women are aware and will make the effort to lose weight. Women don't just wear makeup or dress to attract. Yes, people do use the gym.
@Warmapplecrumble Yeah gal "some guys" do, but the number of guys who actually truly *prefer* chubbier females, as opposed to ones that are simply tacitly accepting chubbier females because there are no other options around them, is actually pretty small.
You keep bringing up to other people who are trying to discuss a different point of view with you a logical Fallacy. I'm asking what that has to do with the question you asked and exactly what point are you trying to make with it?
No. You're not understanding the question I'm asking. You throw around these words but I don't think you really understand what they mean. And judging by your responses to others it appears you just want your opinion validated rather then to have an actual adult conversation about the topic. Your opinion, however, is lacking any real depth because it's nothing more then that, an opinion based on your own preferences and biases. I could go into more detail but it seems you lack the ability to understand the concept of informed responses and critical thinking and that this post is just a way to get you opinions validated by a bunch of random people on the internet because let's face it you probably dont have the balls to bring up your opinions in person.
Honey... (pats you on the head) ... you don't have a point. Tie your shoes now and stop fussing so we can go play outside. You get cranky if you miss your nap.
... Because it poisons the overall dating pool to have females telling fat females and telling each other and all that *lying* to each other about how they're pretty, when they're not? Because then that lets borderline girls think they can be lazy and fat and still be attractive, when they aren't? So as a result, there are fewer and fewer and fewer females out there who are actually attractive and dateable? And guys don't have this problem or we get discarded? So rather than bitch about it, we adapt? And it would be nice to see females do the same things?
1. Many people tell me I am attractive but I still have low self esteem. Many women I know have low self esteem. Just because a woman says to another woman she's attractive the woman doesn't accept it internally.
2. I'm really sure that they are doing their best to loose weight. I mean when I lost weight I lost my periods. So I'm actually happy to get my periods back even though it's made me fatter. You don't know their story, or medical reasons.
3. I see plenty of men that are as big and they don't do anything about it. But we don't have a right to tell them about their body. We should be understanding and be there and still love them because when they are happy they will have motivation to be more healthy. Being depressed makes you want to do nothing.
It's not about the "right" to say something. Everyone has a right to speak. Everyone has a right to make objective observations. And no, many fat girls are not working on their weight, at all. They actually flaunt it, because they've been lied to for years that they are attractive. Guys give them dick because there aren't better options around. And no, most guys don't expect to also be viewed as hot if we're fat. Yes, lots of fat dudes stay fat, but they are not under the incorrect impression that they're going to get girls when they're like that. Girls for some reason think they should be.
Yes, sure, if a female (or male), anyone is ACTUALLY working on their weight, we should absolutely encourage them-- as I did on another girl's comment here on this same post who said she used to be fat and then knuckled down and started exercising and eating right in order to lose the weight. That deserves congratulations. You really think a chick like that ^ hippo up there who clearly thinks she's hot when she isn't, and is wearing a "fat bitch" shirt while flipping off the camera is on some sort of weight loss journey? It's rather obvious that she, and the millions of others like her, are comfortable being fat, and that leaks out to poison the dating pool. Laziness has become acceptable.
I think it's wrong for you to tell people to loose weight unless you are related to them and sincerely caring about their health.
You have no idea how they are loosing weight they might have developed anorexia.
You don't know the medical reason why they are that weight.
You don't know their body fat, so you cannot possibly tell them they are overweight or obese or anything. You might see me on the street and call me fat for all I know. And medically I am at correct weight. But I might go home and develop hormonal problems by loosing weight.
No, that's not how anorexia works. It's not like "Oh, I want to get fit and lose some extra weight that isn't good for me" and then two weeks later I'm practically dying because my body weight is so low, which is what anorexia is.
Okay, sorry to hear that, but the point is that no matter how one person words something on the Internet, a person needs to be telling THEMSELVES the correct things they need in order to move forward in a positive way. I am all for giving people positive encouragement if they have woken up and realized that they are fat and that's not okay, and to try to lose weight in a meaningful and healthy and positive way. But ^ this shit up here that I'm describing is the total opposite of that. This is females who don't give a shit that they're fat and unattractive and think the world should bend to suit them and lie to them and each other, and believe the lie that fat is attractive, or else the whole world is at fault. That's idiotic.
I really find it hurtful when you say you want them to loose weight not because it's healthy and you are concerned for them but because that's what you find attractive.
If men thought about the health and still loved them no matter what, it would help. You can't say to someone who looses all their hair to grow it back or wear a wig, because that's a turn off, you accept them and try to help them.
Because they enjoy taking care of their style, plain and simple. It's basically a hobby, nothing wrong with it. Also, losing weight is hard, changing your style is easy.
Okay... I guess I'll try to use this as a teaching moment, in order to help you out.
So an "ad hominem" logical fallacy-- the one you just employed without meaning to because you clearly don't know what one is-- is committed when a person, rather than addressing the point or position or words or argument or whatever that someone just said, instead addresses something about the person themselves, in an attempt to discredit the basis of the perspective because they aren't smart enough to actually say anything substantive about the position itself. For example, if a person said the factually correct sentence, "Cigarette smoking is bad for you," but the person who said it was wearing a MAGA hat, you would be unable to address what he said because it was correct, so instead you would say "You're clearly wrong because MAGA people are idiots," (which they are) thereby undermining the message, even though it was not capable of being disproven because, again, it's a fact-- smoking is indeed bad for you.
The one YOU employed is "mind your own business," when my business can be whatever I please, and is utterly irrelevant to what I'm saying here. Rather than address what I wrote, since it's correct, you instead decided to talk about something else. It's rather pitiful.
I actually didn't know that one cool. . . But just because you've decided to make someone elses life your business doesn't make it so. The entitlement on you is β¨strongβ¨
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Why do you care.
God damn are we bigger girls not allowed to fucking breath any more? I will put on makeup and dress nice! Because I'm bigger I should just not care? 🙄😪
By the way I AM on a health journey so don't push that "health" agenda at me
Bigger people should be allowed to dress proper and feel confident while taking steps to be healthy.
I'm not "pushing" anything. And "why do you care" is a logical fallacy, the same as the other chick asked. It isn't about me. Nighttime is still dark, whether I care about it or not. My care, or lack thereof, is irrelevant. If you're taking steps to lose weight, then great, good luck.
Literally we can just exist and everyone is offended
If you understood more about dating, which you apparently don't, then you would understand why it matters to other people, and wouldn't need to ask in the first place. Spare me.
Because applying nail polish is easier than doing exercise and eating healthy.
With all due respect.
When you Don't know the whole story, you should probably just stfu!
Do you know that weight problems are even linked with psychological problems, or with certain medication "that makes the person gain weight"? You probably didn't.
So let her be cute and feel good about herself rather than shaming her for how she's living her life as well as her weight, and mind your own business, no one is asking you to look at her or be attracted to her, or even be with/near her.
When people would start minding their own business for God's sake!
Hi. You're really suggesting that more than 100 million Americans have quasi-defined "medical problems" that make them fat? Wow. That's a hell of a lot of the population. If what you're saying is correct, and it's not due to simple poor life choices, like eating too much and not exercising, then why wasn't a third of the American population obese or fat in centuries past?
its easier to change the details i guess... oh and if you didn't want answes to what you now claim to be a rhetorical question you may well have been better to do a my take rather than ask a question... thats what the my take option is for
There's no substantive difference between the two, mate. One has a question mark at the end and one doesn't. I obviously wanted commentary or I wouldn't have asked it in the first place. It is a rhetorical question.
hmmmm. maybe your definition of rhetorical is different then but nevermind. it was a suggestion to try to help, not criticize
I understand, what I'm saying is I want commentary, but the idiots saying "why do you care" are... well, idiots. There's no arguing with objective fact.
well thats true but you are on g@g afterall
It's called overcompensating, and it's easier than actually making the changes it requires to lose 30 pounds.
I know. It was rhetorical.
Write a rant-y MyTake next time.
Maybe I will.
We just think differently from guys. While for you our hair is barely noticeable for us is a relevant thing, and a lot of women want pretty nails. Plus it is easier than doing bigger efforts like exercise or reduce ingestion.
I know it's easier. Laziness is indeed easy.
Bullshit. Most women will lose weight, or attempt to because most people don't know what they are doing, and not every guy goes to the gym whether he wants to lose weight or not. A gym isn't required to lose weight.
... Uh... I didn't say that a gym was required to lose weight, or even suggest it. I was using it as an easy example of something that people often do when they do want to exercise more and lose weight... which they do.
Your example is saying men would do that as opposed to women that apparently focus more on makeup than "losing weight". Are there women like that? Sure. If most women are like that wherever you are, then you must live in a shit hole. Most women are aware and will make the effort to lose weight. Women don't just wear makeup or dress to attract. Yes, people do use the gym.
Your comment ^ right here is a confusing mishmash of points that don't add up to anything.
Because believe it or not some men like fat girls...
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Uh, yes... "believe it or not," "some men" are complete and utter fucking morons. News, I know.
Trust me, men that fuck fat girls would rather fuck fit girls, they just have low standards to aboid being incels
@TienShenhan And the number of females who do not understand this basic truth is truly astounding.
@TienShenhan um some guys actually like chubby women... You can't group all men like that.
@Warmapplecrumble Yeah gal "some guys" do, but the number of guys who actually truly *prefer* chubbier females, as opposed to ones that are simply tacitly accepting chubbier females because there are no other options around them, is actually pretty small.
Cause losing weight is actual work unlike the other shit.
Maybe because she's happy with her size and she is under no obligation to be a certain size, to please the judgmental minority
Hi. Do you know what a "logical fallacy" is?
I'm curious in what point your tryingntk make by bringing up a logical fallacy and how it pertains to the question.
Uh... huh?
You keep bringing up to other people who are trying to discuss a different point of view with you a logical Fallacy. I'm asking what that has to do with the question you asked and exactly what point are you trying to make with it?
Um... only someone who doesn't know what a logical fallacy IS, would think that a logical fallacy and a "point of view" are synonymous. Poor girl.
No. You're not understanding the question I'm asking. You throw around these words but I don't think you really understand what they mean. And judging by your responses to others it appears you just want your opinion validated rather then to have an actual adult conversation about the topic. Your opinion, however, is lacking any real depth because it's nothing more then that, an opinion based on your own preferences and biases. I could go into more detail but it seems you lack the ability to understand the concept of informed responses and critical thinking and that this post is just a way to get you opinions validated by a bunch of random people on the internet because let's face it you probably dont have the balls to bring up your opinions in person.
(yawns, loudly) Of course hon. That's nice.
Oh my mistake. Stay to your own comment and you'll stop getting deleted. I thought this was the other one.
Lol still deleting my comments. Just further priving my point
Honey... (pats you on the head) ... you don't have a point. Tie your shoes now and stop fussing so we can go play outside. You get cranky if you miss your nap.
Why you got a problem with someone else's weight? 😂
... Because it poisons the overall dating pool to have females telling fat females and telling each other and all that *lying* to each other about how they're pretty, when they're not? Because then that lets borderline girls think they can be lazy and fat and still be attractive, when they aren't? So as a result, there are fewer and fewer and fewer females out there who are actually attractive and dateable? And guys don't have this problem or we get discarded? So rather than bitch about it, we adapt? And it would be nice to see females do the same things?
1. Many people tell me I am attractive but I still have low self esteem. Many women I know have low self esteem. Just because a woman says to another woman she's attractive the woman doesn't accept it internally.
2. I'm really sure that they are doing their best to loose weight. I mean when I lost weight I lost my periods. So I'm actually happy to get my periods back even though it's made me fatter. You don't know their story, or medical reasons.
3. I see plenty of men that are as big and they don't do anything about it. But we don't have a right to tell them about their body. We should be understanding and be there and still love them because when they are happy they will have motivation to be more healthy. Being depressed makes you want to do nothing.
It's not about the "right" to say something. Everyone has a right to speak. Everyone has a right to make objective observations. And no, many fat girls are not working on their weight, at all. They actually flaunt it, because they've been lied to for years that they are attractive. Guys give them dick because there aren't better options around.
And no, most guys don't expect to also be viewed as hot if we're fat. Yes, lots of fat dudes stay fat, but they are not under the incorrect impression that they're going to get girls when they're like that. Girls for some reason think they should be.
Yes, sure, if a female (or male), anyone is ACTUALLY working on their weight, we should absolutely encourage them-- as I did on another girl's comment here on this same post who said she used to be fat and then knuckled down and started exercising and eating right in order to lose the weight. That deserves congratulations. You really think a chick like that ^ hippo up there who clearly thinks she's hot when she isn't, and is wearing a "fat bitch" shirt while flipping off the camera is on some sort of weight loss journey? It's rather obvious that she, and the millions of others like her, are comfortable being fat, and that leaks out to poison the dating pool. Laziness has become acceptable.
I think it's wrong for you to tell people to loose weight unless you are related to them and sincerely caring about their health.
You have no idea how they are loosing weight they might have developed anorexia.
You don't know the medical reason why they are that weight.
You don't know their body fat, so you cannot possibly tell them they are overweight or obese or anything.
You might see me on the street and call me fat for all I know. And medically I am at correct weight. But I might go home and develop hormonal problems by loosing weight.
... Anorexia? Seriously? You're seriously falling into the false dichotomy where someone either has to be obese or anorexic?
You are telling a woman to loose weight because of her looks , you really don't think she's gonna get anorexia
No, that's not how anorexia works. It's not like "Oh, I want to get fit and lose some extra weight that isn't good for me" and then two weeks later I'm practically dying because my body weight is so low, which is what anorexia is.
Someone's comments can affect you, depending on how you say things
Yes... that is correct. True. The way we choose our words, matters. I'm not sure why you're bringing that up, but that's correct.
It's because I didn't like how you worded the whole thing, I think it can cause mental damage in a emotional person.
Okay, sorry to hear that, but the point is that no matter how one person words something on the Internet, a person needs to be telling THEMSELVES the correct things they need in order to move forward in a positive way. I am all for giving people positive encouragement if they have woken up and realized that they are fat and that's not okay, and to try to lose weight in a meaningful and healthy and positive way. But ^ this shit up here that I'm describing is the total opposite of that. This is females who don't give a shit that they're fat and unattractive and think the world should bend to suit them and lie to them and each other, and believe the lie that fat is attractive, or else the whole world is at fault. That's idiotic.
I think you should use different wording.
I really find it hurtful when you say you want them to loose weight not because it's healthy and you are concerned for them but because that's what you find attractive.
If men thought about the health and still loved them no matter what, it would help. You can't say to someone who looses all their hair to grow it back or wear a wig, because that's a turn off, you accept them and try to help them.
I think they probably do feel it that is why they try so hard.
Do you feel it? π
@Paris_Beauty no Iβm 126 lbs
You mean 126 kilos right lol
@Paris_Beauty nope
Iβm Latina and I have always been petite plus I do yoga regularly and work out
@likelyOK Yeah? How tall are you?
5β3 Iβm pretty athletic I have been doing gymnastics since hs
Nice.
Alright
Iβll believe you
They're grasping at straws. Weight loss is the hardest thing to do out of all this, they're just being lazy
Because they enjoy taking care of their style, plain and simple. It's basically a hobby, nothing wrong with it. Also, losing weight is hard, changing your style is easy.
Yes... it's hard.
Fat does not equal cute honey!! I can be both if I wanna be... unfortunately my body disagrees
Hair nails and makeup dont bloat and sag as you make bad life choices and sit around
Because its lady like and women do it for their men. It makes them feel good.
... Huh?
Ummm I don't know maybe mind your own business. Let people live the way they want as long as they aren't harming others.
Umm, I dunno maybe learn what a "logical fallacy" is.
Well I already know what those are but you really should read up on it bc they're not present in my comment. βπ€π
Okay... I guess I'll try to use this as a teaching moment, in order to help you out.
So an "ad hominem" logical fallacy-- the one you just employed without meaning to because you clearly don't know what one is-- is committed when a person, rather than addressing the point or position or words or argument or whatever that someone just said, instead addresses something about the person themselves, in an attempt to discredit the basis of the perspective because they aren't smart enough to actually say anything substantive about the position itself. For example, if a person said the factually correct sentence, "Cigarette smoking is bad for you," but the person who said it was wearing a MAGA hat, you would be unable to address what he said because it was correct, so instead you would say "You're clearly wrong because MAGA people are idiots," (which they are) thereby undermining the message, even though it was not capable of being disproven because, again, it's a fact-- smoking is indeed bad for you.
The one YOU employed is "mind your own business," when my business can be whatever I please, and is utterly irrelevant to what I'm saying here. Rather than address what I wrote, since it's correct, you instead decided to talk about something else. It's rather pitiful.
I actually didn't know that one cool. . . But just because you've decided to make someone elses life your business doesn't make it so. The entitlement on you is β¨strongβ¨
The absurdity on you is *strong.*
Because people around them. For example if someone say i not neat i try to be one or if my is messy i try to tie my hair