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My highschool didn't have a dress code and everything was fine. Not sure why some schools are so uptight these days.
At your age, boys can barely contain their hormones and they will spend all day trying to look up your skirt if you are wearing a mini.
What if boys are also wearing miniskirts?
Ain't gonna happen.
I mean boys don't look up girls' miniskirts if they are wearing miniskirts.
Oh yeah they will!
Our boys need to be able to control themselves in prol of something as important as learning. What generation will we make if we tell our boys that they should behave like animals? If we take away all their responsabilities because "they can't control themselves?"? Are we giving us guys that little credit?
You are talking some lofty ideals and I'm talking about the way things really are. If you had a 14 year old pubescent girl in school, you would be thinking about reality.
Doesn't matter what age you have you can be properly taught. If not at home than at school.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 And people can be taught to not break into homes and steal, so do you leave your doors unlocked at night?
Sure it should be allowed as long as boys are allowed to wear tank tops.
It doesn’t matter. If you allow girls to wear skirts, they will roll them - I know I did!
I think they are inappropriate dress for high school. They are distracting to young men.
Are you serious? Others must be careful with what they wear because they can't keep focused on class? Let's teach our sons to have more control than that or suffer with bad grades.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yes, I'm serious. If I had my way, boys and girls would be separated through high school.
It's good that they have contact with the opposite gender as they grow up.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 But Elementary is OK as are other controlled environments. High school is not. It's a zoo.
What advantage does that grant? Aside from a bunch of socially awkward adults?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 What's wrong with socially awkward adults?
Today's dating world is a mess as it is. It would make it much worse. Which causes less marriages. More divorce. Emotional baggage. Anxiety. Etc.
That's not a school girl that's a South Korean actress idiot. Mini skirts of sexualized so much, that's why they're banned.
depends on how short. if it's like this girl in the photo it's alright. (i also think people can choose what they wear no matter their gender)
Look at mini skirt turned out in your school change it up wear some freaking Daisy dukes if you want so badly to show your ass off
The mini skirts are not supposed to be part of a school uniform. It reveals too easily the underwear when sitting down.
You literally have to look under their desk to see anything.
Thats what sme of the immature boys do.
Then let's make them mature.
I would say that miniskirts without shorts or leggings below them makes sense to be banned, but as long as they aren't the only thing covering the lower half, it should be okay.
''Boys are also should be allowed''? I'm sorry, what?
I think clothing optional should be the norm everywhere, when nudity is a regular part of your environment it's no longer a big deal.
I think you should have the option to wear a miniskirt, but not be required to wear anything in particular.
Schools should not have any dress code. Kills individualism.
I don't care what people wears. But in this case since the girls are minors. I don't how I would feel if and old guy was their teacher.
It's called equality.
I don't see why not. If it's okay for grade schoolers, it should be okay for high schoolers.
Why didn't your school management introduce school uniform for everyone it would be much less work then banning something.
Mmm. Makes me think of Catholic schoolgirls.
Maybe they shouldn't be because of the thoughts they give pervy old guys...
It should be kiddo, it's the person's choice on what they want to wear, people who get the wrong idea get it anyway.
Dress codes are dress codes. Male and female have them both. School teaches us to stick together and not show off and compete.
yes. but I think underwear should be required also, it doesn't matter if its sexy or not... but they should be required
ahhhh miniskirts, I remember the days at the private school I went to my buddies and I would eat our lunches under the stairs. those were the days.
No guy should ever be allowed to wear women's clothing in public places.
And although I would enjoy seeing attractive-legged girls wearing miniskirts, dresses and skirts should be much longer to avoid having guys being sexually distracted
Our boys need to be able to control themselves in prol of something as important as learning. What generation will we make if we tell our boys that they should behave like animals? If we take away all their responsabilities because "they can't control themselves?"? Are we giving us guys that little credit?
Maybe! And I’m guessing your one of those girl who would whisper it to me if I asked her
dress codes aren't cause kids are horny or whatever its the fricken creppy adults
They should be allowed for girls but not boys. Boys should wear trousers.
Why would you want boys to wear miniskirts? Maybe I didn't read that correctly.
No unless you’re a cheerleader it’s pretty skanky girls who wear those are just begging to get fingered on the bus
I think both boys and girls should be allowed to wear miniskirts...
only if we are in the catholic school i think. and if a boy wants to wear a dress i guess that is up to them to do. it is America we live in.
It should be, but everything is sexualized now, so if you show a little skin, people scream murder. I say, do what you want
Yes, I don't know why they were removed in the first place
Mini skirts should be fine just not ultra miniskirts
yes - Opinion, like skirts, is either too long or too short.
Yes i think if its allowed its must be rules to wear panties
Cuz some rude girls won't wear..
My thought lol
Am against that what are you showcasing we hv yet not seen, to bring mini skirts in school.
Only if you can't wear panties by rule along with them. Now how do you feel?
I liked when girls wore minskirts in highschool because they were easier to grope
Miniskirts are sexy. Totally allowed, encouraged even. Lol
The less someone wears, the more likely they will be viewed as nothing but an object.
The lesser they wear the nuder they get.
@Daniela1982 Also true. 😃
NO NO NO can't banned mini skirts or dresses
Women are gorgeous wearing them
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WEAR A MINI SKIRT AND SHOW OFF YOUR LEGS TO BUNCH OF BOYS? ANSWER ME!!!
what about if the girl wore the skirt because she actually liked it?
@laconique answer my question first
Because she wants attention, but what about if she likes it because of the style and doesn't except to get attention🥸
Yes they should be allowed.
No, Because banning them wouldn't really Prevent anything negative.
No.. they shouldn't be
Leave it to local school districts to decide.
I can't think of anything I care about less.
Obviously... it would be GREAT EYE TREAT for boys love it
And the teachers. Make it mandatory.
Yes with thin leggings
Not so high above the knees please.
Sure they can be allowed but never required
As long as their underwear isn’t ever showing.
During the summer yes but the winter
Its a rape request essentially
Same if a boy brings a sleeveless shirt than. Just asking for one of the female staff to abuse him.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 no because a mini skirt can reveal the female genitals, especially if she's wearing nothing underneath. That's probably why they banned it. I guess if Kilts came into fashion for men everywhere then that would get banned to for the same reason (maybe). I knew a girl who wore nothing underneath in HS and showed off. Anyways it's a problem. It's one thing to be wearing skimpy clothing. It's another thing to reveal all. I think for what you said a better equivalent would be beaters vs sports bras maybe.
also in my public school 3 male teachers were arrested for raping girls in school. Most doubled as after school couches (2/3). Also we had one female pedophile teacher too. Anyways you just never know wtf is going on when you send your kids to these places anymore. People are sick in the f*cking head
@t-8900 Yes it is. Do you know why? Because arms are consider by girls as one of the sexiest parts we have. So yes it is a very sexual part they love to look and that turns them on. I can also say tight pants that show our bulge. That already fall into the reveal of our genitals category.
Those teachers were animals! You know what would help not make more of them? To teach our young boys to control themselves around girls
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 limbs vs genitals dude. Cmon now... and "bulge" vs literally seeing inside the girl. You ALWAYS take the woman's side. Yet my female teacher raped me when I was 7. So who teaches her? Its like teaching a murderer not to kill. When do you think they gave a crap about the rules. Criminals break laws because they dont care about them and they are unempathetic.
@t-8900 Ask girls. They will tell you arms are a much turn on than dick. They prefer a pic flexing than a dick pic. Same thing as boobs for us.
About the skirts, you will see her panties. It is comparable to the bulge. So should we forbid tight jeans for boys?
Dude, why are we asking girls to dress modestly and not boys to learn to control themselves? Repress one's right because others can't behave? Does this sounds the right answer?
Our boys need to be able to control themselves in prol of something as important as learning. What generation will we make if we tell our boys that they should behave like animals? If we take away all their responsabilities because "they can't control themselves?"? Are we giving us guys that little credit?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 bro I said and i will say it again. Some girls *Some* do NOT wear panties underneath. A girl at my school didn't and an ex girlfriend didn't either while she was in school. So yes this happens, does happen. That is *probably* why it's banned.
"Dude, why are we asking girls to dress modestly"
Because men DO dress modestly. Our clothes aren't revealing unless we are wearing beaters or something. And that's underclothing and should not be a main form of dress. I never knew a guy who wasn't wearing a baggy ass t-shirt or polo and LOTS wear hoodies. So I don't know wtf you are talking about at all here lol.
"Repress one's right because others can't behave? Does this sounds the right answer?"
it has to do with common decency. Present yourself like a normal, responsible person. Ffs...
and you never answered who should be the one to then teach females not to rape? Still waiting. Dont dodge it. You tried to make this one sided so now answer. I was talking about an equivalent and then you start with the white knight preaching. Can you ever NOT be preaching to others about your pov? Like ever?
"If we take away all their responsabilities because "they can't control themselves?"? Are we giving us guys that little credit?"
so then guys should be able to come in with their genitals easily revealable? Yes or no. Dont dodge it, just answer. If a girl has the ability to come in with a mini skirt with nothing underneath can a boy do the same and manspread and show all? YES or NO, no tiptoeing bs with this one.
@t-8900 Neutered feminist allies will never acknowledge their own side's fault. Hence why you didn't get a proper answer about female rapists. And you never will. Save your breath.
@TruthBringer true. I feel bad for any boys he has. Seriously every single time, not ONE thing outside of those gynocentric views. Here i am talking about SUBJECT and he ADDS to it the other nonsense. Like the comparison was never brought up. BUT since he brought it up (while being completely irrelevant to OP) here he is trying to lecture. He's as much a rapist enabler as the rest if he only stands up for one side.
@TruthBringer the whole "we should be teaching boys better" IRRELEVANT if they come from a place that doesn't. No matter how much you want to preach your egalitarian BS you can NEVER make that kind of change happen 100%. Girls ALSO can't f'n control themselves. I did NOT enjoy getting my junk grabbed in HS and middle school by sexually aggressive girls. Oh I'm a guy so I must have "wanted it". And it's OKAY if girls grab guys. But if a guy even cat calls "TO ARMS!". I can't stand this bs. I'm not saying what those guys did was right BUUUUUT dont make it a one sided issue and dont just pick one side. It's total BS
@t-8900 Do you really think only some use underwear? The vast majority does use it. The amount that doesn't is negligible at best.
The issue is not that men are dressing modestly and women don't. The issue is that we sexualize girls as a society much more than we sexualize boys. That is the problem.
You never saw a guy using a sleeveless shirt, a tight polo that show off his pecks? Never? Where do you live?
Using mini skirts is not against decency. Again, tight pants for boys aren't against decency are they? It is the same problem, society sees girls as sexual, but not boys. It's a collective mindset.
I can answer that. Sorry didn't saw it at first. Society doesn't give incentives for girls to rape boys. The moment we remove boys responsability over their actions we are saying "if this happen it's not your fault it's the girl's fault". We don't say the opposite to girls.
But the girls are not coming without underwear. I so advocate to them using something under. So I advocate for the same thing to boys. They can use leggings for all I care they show the shape of their dick and balls. It's fine!
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 now you're trying to strawman. No one said "Most dont". Stop trying to twist what people say.
"Society doesn't give incentives for girls to rape boys."
yes they do. With lesser penalties and sentencing and guys lining up to say "its not rape cuz boys like it". So what happens when the boy hasn't reached sexual maturity? is asexual? or gay? Then what? and not all guys are horndogs. I'm a demisexual myself. So I can't just get off like that. But also I have a religious code i follow.
"Using mini skirts is not against decency. Again, tight pants for boys aren't against decency are they? It is the same problem, society sees girls as sexual, but not boys. It's a collective mindset."
for the love of God please DO outlaw tight pants for boys. It's a travesty. Not because they aren't decent because it's a terrible fashion sense and feminine. Girls sexualized me all the time. Girls watch porn with men too. Girls talk vulgar about men too. We are too hyper focused on only the men here doing bad deeds. by the way while on subject of rape lets also talk about spousal abuse. So few women actually end up getting arrested or charged when they hit a man but not the reverse. Yes men cause more damage but the principle is the same. No one should be beating anyone, PERIOD. And both men and women should face the EXACT same jail time for their crimes.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "They can use leggings for all I care they show the shape of their dick and balls. It's fine!"
I disagree. I dont want a man's junk showing either. It's tacky and disgusting at the same time. I could be a pig all in favor of girls wearing basically nothing and then be a champion. Meanwhile I could also be a complete perv. True or false there are men out there who are more prone to rape girls who wear more revealing clothing? doesn't matter about "teaching them better" you can't teach a serial killer to stop killing. A rapist should be castrated and in the case of a woman have something equivalent like removing her clit so she can't feel the pleasure anymore and won't rape.
@t-8900 I stopped arguing with this guy for some time now after he pulled a massive straw man undermining the statistical importance of a topic that was being discussed. He also has a habit of using scientific studies (often misinterpreting them) to make him point, but as soon as he is met with scientific studies from the other side, he is eager to dismiss them as "biased". Save your breath. There is no point in trying to educate the closed minded out there. Especially if they are raised to eventually become feminist allies.
@t-8900 how are my take against boys? No really, is what way what I am saying is against boys?
I am against the system, not against our young boys. They have all the advantage in being treated as capable of owning responsibilities for their actions.
@t-8900 finally tell the supposed bringer of truth that if he want to talk we can. He blocked me so I can't see what he says, but he clearly still cares to talk about me.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 because
1) you made this girls vs boys in your first response to me when i was simply replying to OP and subject matter.
2) because you talk about "teaching boys" but not girls. Why not say "we need to teach our kids to respect bodily autonomy and personal space?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I just GOTTA ask...
what is your relationship with your father? Like no one with a strong father talks like this. You sound like every other dude that's been raised by a single mother that I've EVER come across. Like some feminist NPC
@t-8900 If most do use underwear why did you even bring it up? Why bring it up if it's not an issue?
It's funny how that still doesn't make them rape us half as much as we rape them isn't it? So clearly one side is getting more incentives to do it. Maybe it's because "she wanted it" is enough for a guy to escape conviction. Said by the way by a girl here! Yes a girl in a Take posted about her rape. She said the guy almost got away because he filmed her ridding him with no apparent coercion. Truth Bringer saw that Take! So don't come here and say law treats male victims of rape worse. Neither you or him!
I agree I hate right pants they look awful and feel awful.
I agree girls do all that. They are sexual creatures too. Just like boys, so why are we just controlling what girls use?
About domestic violence, just like rape men do it far more. We are less likely to be heard, it's true. Doesn't mean that women are always heard. In fact without proof most of them never get actual help.
You don't want to see then don't look. It's your problem not his.
Actually that is false. It was tested already if teaching young boys about consent and to not sexualize girls that they were less likely to engage in that behavior. It wasn't by much it was like 12% less likely. But still, is something.
But let's say it doesn't prevent rapes at all. To take away someone's basic rights because some people are pieces of shit isn't a solution.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 if it's some men that bring up rape then why bring it up at all? If it's some guys who cat call why bring it up at all? if it's some guys who are misogynists why bring it up at all? bad logic, very bad. If a few girls expose themselves its too many for a school environment.
"Maybe it's because "she wanted it" is enough for a guy to escape conviction."
lmao yeah right dude even Weinstein couldnt get away with that one. HAHA! Don't even try. Men get harsher sentences then women for the same crimes and the proof is there. Just like black men get more time then white men. But women, especially white women get the least amount of time in jail for the same crimes. Lets not even go there. For how long was the death penalty only for men? If Jodie Arias was the victim of the same crime as her boyfriend where would he be? Likely death row!
"Actually that is false. It was tested already if teaching young boys about consent and to not sexualize girls that they were less likely to engage in that behavior. It wasn't by much it was like 12% less likely. But still, is something."
cool so why haven't we done the same with girls? As I said I DID NOT consent to being touched and shit and didn't like it. Anyways we're getting nowhere with this conversation. You never want to concede that there's more in the world then female problems. You always act like only females get the short end. Its not true. Not in divorce, not in child custody, not in reproduction rights, and not in criminal sentencing, also we get no public outcries. I've said my piece and everyone who's being honest knows I'm spitting straight facts. Lets just drop it.
@t-8900
1. Read the original comment. Stupid right? I answered him with an equally stupid premise. That was the point.
2. Because the main premise here is that boys will lose focus. If that is the topic of the conversation why do you expect me to say "girls should also be taught self control". Of course they should! But that is not the main topic is it? We are discussing why girls should it shouldn't use certain clothes. And the main point in favor is "because boys can't control themselves". So I answer "boys need to to taught to learn self control".
We are clear on that?
I was raised by a single mother. But here is the fun part. My mother would agree with you. She is very conservative. My opinions are my own. And to be very clear, I am not a feminist I am an egalitarian. And honestly how can you, if somehow having a father means you have were raised better, be against people's freedom? Why don't you agree that people need to be taught self control and to respect others? Did your father never taught you that? Just asking.
@t-8900 Because it's far to many men. And you are comparing a girl going commando with the act of raping. And I am the one with bad logic?
Oh yes let's go there. Let's go there because you seem to believe that women are always magically believed which is false. Like I said men can and indeed do get away easy. "Environment of seduction" was a good enough argument to free two dudes who raped a girl unconscious. There was video proof. Still got away.
You want to talk about laws? It was legal for men to beat their wives for the longest time. Men came out to the street to protest when this changed. Also this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucking_stool
See until how long it was legal...
I know that this world is not all for men. I know men have their problems. But see where we are with just a talk about mini skirts. Why the need for all of this. To make the conversation about so much darker topics for what? To prevent them from dressing as they want? Just why?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 so men are responsible for the sins of their fathers? we aren't the same now. But male sexuality is hotwired into them same as girls. You can tell guys to not DO certain things. But you can't charge a guy with thought crimes. And when I was in school I WAS busy staring at girls. wasn't it you who said something like you can't expect people to not have sex? It might not have been you I don't know. But when boys are developing at a certain age they are EXTREMELY sexually charged and what they look at and what they think cannot be helped. The only thing you can do is try to remove the actions. Thoughts are wired to the brain and hormones.
@t-8900 I never said they were. You were the one who talked like I was somehow inferior for not having a father. So I made a simple question, if you had one, you must be better raised, according to you at least. So why aren't you for holding people accountable for their actions?
But what is wrong in people having sex? I agree that at 12-14 they are to young to be having it. But exactly because you will teach them restrain, to respect others and to not view them as sex objects, you will have less kids engaging on it.
I know hormones are hard to fight. I was a young boy too. But it that never stopped the best students in my class to be boys. Why? Because while of course we looked and talked, we knew there was a time and a place for everything. In my schools there was never a dress code. Never any incident happened.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 no I am saying and will stand by this, You are biased on overly sympathetic to women and this is a theme among boys raised by single moms. Your mom might have been conservative but it takes a man to raise a man because a boy and a man share similarities that they dont with the opposite sex. We work differently, are wired a bit differently, and that's a good thing. My girlfriend knows men and women are different and knows where a woman's power truly lies. There's nothing wrong with saying a woman's power is in her touch and nurturing nature. Men naturally respect women who are not quarrelsome. It's not even something sexist. Guys dont want to have to go home from a long day at work to find even more work/strife in their homelife. Women SOFTEN men's hearts. It's not a bad thing BUT they also leave little boys with soft hearts 24/7 and THAT is not good imho.
Men need to be more standoffish as a means to protect their families. He needs to have situational awareness at all times and he needs to be capable of quick responses. I think I saw your post about there not being beta males or something? I could be wrong. But Alphas and betas both exist. The "players" are not alphas, just a different type of beta. Any male that would not protect his own offspring is not an alpha, period. But likewise a man who submits to his woman is not an alpha either. If society broke down tomorrow, completely then we would have social hierarchies. this whole "egalitarian" thing is a very domesticated idea. In nature for the human race it will not work in times of strife. And then you will see people ranked in strength, wit, and response to situations.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8
Warriors used to get the best from fresh kills. They would get the heart, the kidneys, and the liver. And funnily enough this same behavior is observed in Wolves and other animals. Is there anything wrong with being a "beta"? Honestly, no. We need betas as much as alphas. Only a few alphas can really be at the top and they will war for that position. and Alphas need betas to do their bidding and in doing so they keep their tribes safe and secure.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 some betas are good enough men to be there for their kids, others are losers that end up being deadbeat dads. I dont promote players by the way and I dont like guys sleeping around anymore than girls and it's honestly for different reasons. But I'm really not trying to get into it. I really want this conversation to end because i got lots of other things to get done.
@t-8900 All that talk "we are wired differently" "the true power women have" "nutrition nature" sounds like like the same premises used to excuse beliefs like women shouldn't work. But I digress.
Men's hearts are one thing, our dick's are another. And we must teach our boys to control both. Otherwise what kind of society we will make? Our boys will be weak otherwise.
Name a single animal in the planet where the mother doesn't protect and provide for their kids. I will wait. As far as I know every human being should be able to protect and provide for the offspring.
I have nothing against a structured hierarchy. But notice how the leaders are not necessarily the fighters. On the contrary. President Roosevelt was in a wheelchair at the time of WW2. The person who is less capable of protecting as an individual can be the best person to rule.
Let's say betas are the color white and alphas the color black. You have as many colours in between as you have personalities. This idea that in the group there is one alpha and everyone follows him or her blindly is fictional. Doesn't work in social groups, doesn't work in democratic governments, doesn't work simply. Humans beings are far to complex and diverse to fall into this generalization.
All of this is not about the main topic. Should girls be allowed to use mini skirts? Yes. Why? Because we need to teach our boys to be not fall into their urges. Teach them to respect others. How this sounds so odd I have no idea.
Yep you keep telling yourself what you need to sleep at night dude. God the shit you make up from what people say. God the other guy was right you really do just never stop. I don't know why you even bother if not to help yourself believe everything you were taught wasn't a lie. Not sure what you are trying to even do at this point. You are a beta, it's cool. Live with it, accept it, it is what it is. So much butthurt. Your girlfriend had to ask you out, you never had a dad, your girlfriend is a feminist, you defend feminists, it's all cringe dude. You would be ejected from male friend groups with your nonsense. The stupidity of your argument is hurting my brain badly. Lots of false conclusion, lots of wishful thinking. I f*cking pity you so hard. As a man I'm just embarrassed for you. Please stop for whatever self respect you still have in yourself. I blame your parents for this whole scenario and you're too far gone to see it all.
@t-8900 here we go again. I wasn't taught any of this. You are the one who had this drilled into your skull. You point the finger at me that I am inflexible, but you are as much as I am.
All cringe? My father cheated on my mother. A good woman approached me. I defend equality. What about this is cringe? Do you see how brainwashed you are?
Dude I have a male friends group. That is your wishful thinking. I am so proud of not defending the same ancient values and refusal to evolve.
But respond to me... What kind of boys will we raise if we don't hold them responsable? If we don't tell them self control? They will be controlled by their hormones and desires all life! Have no focus on their goals.
@t-8900 and how is that me being against boys? I want them to be better than brain dead drooling monkeys. If you do that's your problem.
Yep k
That seems absurd to have a mini skirt banned
That's probably a wise idea.
The choice should be left up to the individual
No your not a little whore
Like cheerleaders, seems weird
No because it's too short and boys are to hot