Is beauty really subjective?

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Well, let me tell you something, @boobslayer is a sick twisted bastard who doesn't fear Lord Orgasmos - the beauty of breasts is about as subjective as the morality of a serial killer. It's just a fact of life that these succulent sacks of flesh are like a siren call to the depraved and deranged.
I mean, have you ever seen a set of knockers and not felt your mind drift to the darkest recesses of your twisted fantasies? I sure as hell haven't. Those things are like two forbidden fruit, ripe for the plucking and leading the way to ultimate damnation.
And let's not forget the variety of names we have for these devilish delights - from the classic knockers and jugs to the more creative flesh bombs and devil's dumplings. They come in all shapes and sizes, from the perky cherries to the saggy watermelons. And don't even get me started on the nips - those little buttons of pure sin.
So, to answer your question - is beauty really subjective? Hell no! When it comes to breasts, the beauty is as universal as the darkness in our souls. They're a work of art, a masterpiece of temptation, and anyone who disagrees is either lying or too pure to be trusted.

RingOfFire · Accepted Answer

"Beauty" can apply to a lot of different things. But I will assume that when you say beauty you are talking about the opinion of people about the beauty of individual female humans. I think beauty is about 50% objective and 50% subjective. There are certain common characteristics of appearance that most people find beautiful in a woman. That is the objective part. But there are people who find things that deviate from those characteristics beautiful too. Sometimes they find it beautiful in its seemingly defying the definition of what is typically considered beautiful... an example might be some famous women known for their beauty who had a "gap tooth."

While there is some core commonality among men that means that a large number of them find certain specific women beautiful and others not, they don't all agree either way. I find that many of the women who are considered by the masses to be beautiful do not seem so to me. I prefer an unusual kind of beauty. So my view in that sense is subjective.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

No, looks matter. Sure you can be humble and have inner-beauty. But looks is a factor of health. Looks basically determines health. Tell me, which option below looks “ Healthy ” and like they will produce strong healthy offspring? OPTION A (age 27) OPTION B (age 27) People care about looks for a reason. If you’re lazy and unmotivated. It could even signal mental health issues and depression. Nobody wants to deal with someone who “appears” to have mental health issues. I’m not saying that Hot Attractive people  can’t  have them, I’m saying it’s more likely that unfit people have them. This is why people care about looks so darn much, and are shallow. It’s because we SHOULD BE shallow. This applies to both men & women. Both want something healthy. You’re not gonna put work on yourself and be top-notch healthy to then choose someone who doesn’t match that.

FreyaRed · Accepted Answer

Well, people who didn't get it by mother nature can repeat like a mantra "it's subjective" but it won't change the fact that our brains are hardwired in matter of beauty.
Even I as Caucasian girl who isn't sexually interest in other women can in less than a second determine attractiveness level of an Asian of African girl who have clearly has different facial features than girls around me and 95% of people in their cultures will share my opinion about attractiveness of those girls.
This isn't subjective, this epitome of objectivity.

LittleSally · Answer

To a certain point - yes.

BCA6010 · Answer

Yes.

What I consider attractive, and what each of my four closest friends consider attractive are five different things. Some stuff is pretty universal (being noticeably overweight is almost always considered unattractive, as an example), but if you travel abroad, some cultures especially in southwest Asia are radically different and consider obesity attractive because it implicates personal success and the means to over-indulge. Any given individual may also subconsciously change what features or traits they consider attractive based on gained knowledge, experience, or conditioning.

razelove · Answer

For some things, like where we have our preferences in race, height, style, details like that.

If you were to look at yourself as the sum of your parts rather than a monolith there are many objective parts of beauty as well, symmetry, ideal facial and body ratios regardless of your height, race, or other existing features. There are ideal proportions for your face to be in length vs. width, hips, waist, bust, so on and so forth.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2814183/

I think the subjectivity only comes in because we're mostly average. If a man or woman was given the choice of someone they had a preference for who was average, or someone with ideal proportions, they'd bounce on their preference.

It changes drastically if you're below average or above average in appearance.

ohsheeT · Answer

Of course I have seen and meant some of the most beautiful girls you would ever see and once they open their mouth they turn into ugly

And when I meet a girl I look deep in to her eyes most of the time they tell me exactly who she is what she's all about if she's happy if she's sad if she's smart if she's confident if she's wise if she's a teacher if she's a guide. If she thinks about other people before herself in situations and she has a beautiful heart that's who I like but then you add what type of music what types of food all guys are different we all look at girls different we all feel things different and we see things different if you're looking for the whole package if you're just looking for what they look like then I don't have a clue

Astarlessnightsky · Answer

Yes, to some degree also changing over time and place.

Some traits like the right proportions, symmetrie are universal.

However stuff like weight or bodyshape change over time and from person to person.

For example, not too long ago the most beautyful was super thin, just skin and bones, now the ass can't be thick enough.

Or look at renaiscance paintings, all the women have almost plus sized bodyshapes.

richardcory · Answer

There are some characteristics that are broadly seen as beautiful and some where opinions vary.

Being healthy and of healthy weight, and no obvious deformities is attractive to most people. Other things like hair color, breast size, musculature, tattoos, height, skin color etc can vary a lot person to person

ZXCwWRQWz · Answer

Yes, but subjectivity always has patterns governed by the objective reality we share. For example, people might vary a bit in terms of how much salt to put in a soup (pro chefs usually use around 0.5%), but put something ridiculous in there like 5% salt and everyone will find it too salty.

crossdressingrihno · Answer

To some level I’d say yes.
Theirs of course certain people or traits that commonly viewed as more attractive and in that sense id say it’s not subjective.
It’s like the “I’m a Barbie girl” song.
While music taste is mostly subjective the vast majority of people who hear it really don’t like that song and in that sense it’s an objective fact that the song is bad.

UnknownSwede · Answer

It's subjective to a certain degree. There's truth to the saying "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder", but of course there are those who a majority finds attractive/unattractive. Although the latter can vary a lot depending on region/country too.

So to summarize; In general it's subjective, but it's not that black and white.

Preprefrontalis · Answer

In ancient times, men loved fat and large women. because they thought they were strong, with access to food, able to raise their young well. so the perception of beauty was like that at that time, now it's completely different. In short, there is a social consensus. but only as the main criteria. other than that, if we go down to the details, beauty is quite subjective.

Anonymous · Answer

At some level of course it is, but then again what we westerns like follows a lot of standard rules, and what humans have always liked in terms of looking healthy has been fairly consistent thou-out history.

Focus on being healthy to cover most of your basis then start working on the target culture & group spesfic standard.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Yes, to a point but there's also a general consensus where the immense majority will come into agreement on what looks appealing and what doesn't.

What percentage of people will actually say a young naturally looking Kim Kardashian isn't good looking? Maybe 1% of the human population at most.

menina · Answer

Yes, absolutely. My beauty standards might not be your beauty standards. Which is why people choose different looking people to date/marry/have sex with.

Minahh · Answer

They are beauty standards and that's what people unconsciously perceive as beauty however if you train yourself to not get attached to it you'll find out that even some imperfections can actually be something you find attractive you just wasn't paying attention to it because of society

Anonymous · Answer

It's MOSTLY objective. We as a society tend to agree on beauty standards if beauty were NOT objective there would be no supermodels and male models.

But outside of that you CAN find someone subjectively beautiful or handsome based on your own biases orthier actions.

PAPAMOOCH · Answer

No what we find attractive can be a lot of subjective things. But beauty and looks is far less subjective. We biologically seek out simetry and indicators of good health. That is what creates beauty and what we find good looking. The difference is just where on that scale we find attraction due to our ability to access those levels of beauty long term.

MementoMori777 · Answer

Yes, want a perfect example, people find Kim Kardashian attractive or hot or whatever, I find her repulsive, not cause she's ugly but only cause she isn't attractive to me personally

DizzyDesii · Answer

Yes because I may find someone attractive that others may not

heyuas · Answer

I believe it is. There are some celebrities people call attractive, handsome and pretty and I don’t see the appeal.

Nikki1989 · Answer

Well, nobody is beautiful to everyone.

TenderFantasy · Answer

I definitely think so. I've seen hot guys with really ugly or unattractive (at least to me), women partners, and vice versa!

strateguy632 · Answer

certainly subjective kuz each person feels various different ones are beauties. some like blond more and others brown hair more.

megabamse · Answer

Yes i would say so. Several of these so called beauty IG models and other similar models just don't do it for me. And what i find beautiful might not be beautiful to everyone else

Smashingdoozy · Answer

Yes... Who you find attractive can be not so attractive or even unattractive to other people.

PhantomMenace22 · Answer

Yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty standards change from place to place and time to time.

Berethor · Answer

Not really subjective because beautiful people tend to be popular, it's only little subjective.

John_Doesnt · Answer

Yes, there's a lot of guys who like fat chicks and a lot of guys who like skinny flat chicks. And guys who are in between or guys who like both.

NYlatefun · Answer

I guess there are universal standards that constitute attractiveness and I think they’re related to health signs and others that convey good genes.
However our upbringing and context also factor in our preferences.

Pohjolan · Answer

Depends on how you define subjective.

Like taste is subjective but we can make a statistical generalisation that people don't like the taste of used motor oil.

Similarily we can make statistical generalisations about beauty.

misogynistic_pig · Answer

Obviously not, beautiful and ugly people are still beautiful or ugly for everyone.

iiinsOMNIA · Answer

I mean, yeah, but there will always be some extremely popular opinions

Anonymous · Answer

Yes. But generally White Queens are considered the standard of beauty.

RolandCuthbert · Answer

Of course it is. Any casual look at differences in culture around the world reveals.

dreamstar72 · Answer

Beauty is the result of man. Why do women want to be beautiful because of mostly for men. Why do men want the most is a beautiful woman.

LaFemmeFatale_1 · Answer

No. Beauty is very objective.  Most of the time.

MrCommodore · Answer

It probably is subjective to each person's personal tastes.

Jamie05rhs · Answer

Yes, it is. Because not all guys like the same type of women. For example, there are many men who are attracted to East Asian women, but I am not attracted to them at all.

MountAverage · Answer

It is and it isn't. On an individual level it is absolutely subjective. But at the same time, if we look at populations we can determine beauty standards that are statistically significant.

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

Yes, I believe in a certain extent it is

itsalyssaagain · Answer

Yeah but also there are some people that are objectively attractive.

jshm2 · Answer

Yes. Everyone is ugly to someone, but beautiful to another.

Dela_99 · Answer

Totally objective. I see this when we argue if a man is handsome and we are a group of women and some find him good looking and other girls don’t agree. Pretty objective.

Angelo75 · Answer

Well in my honest opinion... it is. Same as attraction.

nastyb · Answer

yes. some guys think im unattractive while others think im hot.

SigmaNiggeh · Answer

Sometimes. In someways. Preferences are. But beauty in and of itself not exactly. For instance if your waist and shoulders are the same ratio it won't be as attractive as if your shoulders are 1.61* wider than you're waist.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Yes. Case in point: the list of world's most beautiful women. At least half I do not think are above average.

BLP11520 · Answer

Some women are supposed to be beautiful are like meh, to me. Ones I perceive as beautiful ( thinking of a dancer ) may not be beautiful to others.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Not really. We can tell ourselves beauty is subjective but conventional beauty standards have existed for quite some time.

admles · Answer

Yep. there is not one who is considered beautiful by every single person. Different people find different features attractive.

Anonymous · Answer

I think it is, but not nearly as much as ugly people like to think it is

Kyr0s · Answer

No, beauty is pretty objective. But it can be subjective in the specifics.

imfreeze95 · Answer

Yes it is. There are cultural, religious, moral and personal components.

Kingofkings1992 · Answer

Of course. In what way would it be objective?

robocop666 · Answer

no they are lying to comfort you. Study the blackpill.

QuietRunner · Answer

yes to each person most find something else beautiful compared to another person

Anonymous · Answer

Yes.. I see this guy so attractive but my friend don’t see.

TacosRAwesome · Answer

Yes to an extent.

asphaltrhymes · Answer

I'd say so. I think I'm quite hot 😀🔥🥵😈😈😋

anon1903 · Answer

It's both subjective and objective.

gothbxtch · Answer

yes. everyone has different taste

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