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I sure wish women would make the first move. Hopefully that will be a norm soon.
I hope it'll be 50/50. Otherwise the problem would simply be reversed.
True.
they are not real men then. I am not going to say "yes" until he makes many moves. Not just first move
Playing hard to get? or you want him to prove his loyalty? Also, how are guys supposed to tell that you want him to keep making many moves on the off chance that you like it and aren't creeped out by it? Wouldn't that just filter out polite and kind guys, and the only ones left are the guys that can't take no for an answer or have nothing to lose because of the disparity between looks/ something else?
Yeah cause honesty women can read men better then men can read woman and it's still special if a girl ask the guy.
I'd like to meet the woman God has for me, the woman worth making a move over.
so what if God didn't mean u a woman for u , what are u gonna do?
@KnightCross God made me a man. If I was to be alone, I would know it and not want or need a woman in my life. I believe God is God and God can give me the woman He made to be my wife since before the foundation of the world. I have gone off course but I am being made right for her. I have no doubt about that.
u know God made Paul to not to marry. also He made several other men and women throughout history to become monks, nuns and priests. how do u know u are meant to be married? just because u have a desire for the opposite sex? who doesn't? St Augustine did, St Francis did even the current Pope did
If you are relying on your imaginary sky daddy to find you a woman, you will die waiting.
That was a realisation that I had during my early 20s, when the pain of not having that one special girl to love and care for had me weeping into my pillow at night.
I had the epiphany that the sky daddy (a) did not exist, or (b) did not care.
The revelation was liberating.
@cth96190 Well, I have died and was held in the arms of God, every fiber of my existence was saturated in the purest definition of the word Love. I have had many, many miracles happen to me, and I have had prayers answered even before I was finished praying. Personally, a childhood of severe abuse is being slowly repaired, not through psychologists or medication, but through God who is reconnecting the wires. If you are not brave or strong enough to put yourself under God's subjection, that is fine, but do not ridicule my beliefs. I highly doubt you would say the same thing to a Muslim.
@thetundrawf
I would say a lot more to the followers of the paedophile bandit false prophet.
@cth96190 Then you are genuine in your beliefs and I tip my hat to you, sir.
@cth96190 @thetundrawolf i don't tip my hat to him though. he sounds like an angry teenager atheist, but he is 59. and he still thinks God is some sort of "sky daddy". didn't your brain have developed meanwhile? the only one i tip my hat is for tundra, but i think that there is not certainty that God made every man to marry, some are not meant to marry. i'm start to figuring out that i'm not meant to marry tbh. i have met lots of girls in my life, and nothing has worked. also i think i'm more a social person who could contribute much more for a community of hundreds people than just a family of 5 or 6 people, even though i feel it would be nice being a family man rather then a spiritual leader
I wonder where you got this. Lol.
Thanks for the link...😉😉
I was actually curious about it and decided to make it a question
It's certainly gotten a good amount of responses!
Wait, you're telling me that 95% of boys would choose a zero chance of rejection over a nonzero chance of rejection?
... WHO KNEW
Honestly, I'm surprised that it's *only* 95 percent. I think those other 5 percent of boys must be interpreting the question as something like "... annnddd YOU, buddy, wouldn't even be *allowed* to make that move". Like Bumble, but irl.
... shiiiiitt srry sarah, that was supposed to be my own opinion ahah. 💟 Mah bads
@redeyemindtricks no worries babe. I've actually missed u. I'm thinking the other 5% are those UBER Macho guys who wouldn't dare learn to cook or do laundry and have segregated girls to they do that, while I hunt.
"Men have been asking women out for decades."
^this is a tradition so it is the best method. <-- traditional fallacy.
If women want to date someone, then they should ask them out too.
I do. And most of them don't except for the obese ones.
I find the confidence attractive when they do but it's not common for it to happen.
I believe it, although it's mostly wishful thinking. If a guy really wants a girl then he'll most likely have to make the first move himself.
They might "like that" but relationship are shorter when the girl makes the first move
How so?
@blackeagle007 statistically speaking that's the case.
Statistics aren't always absolute though. I'm just confused why it be different on who makes the move.
really? how so? And what if they're shorter for the wrong people but longer for the right ones? I'd think it would be opposite, as girls generally have a lot more choices, and girls going after guys is rarer.
All things considered in this messed up world, I wouldn't blame any of them for it. I always make the moves myself, because I like to be in control.
No I Believe the man should make the first move it has been like that for decades but I also dont mind if the women makes the first move.
I think 95% is a little high, but a lot of guys certainly do.
elitedaily.com/.../
Sounds about right. I know for a fact, that it's true for me personally, at least.
I think more often than not they do. By flirting or locking eyes, or a subtle touch. It's like an invitation saying "ask me out".
Honey, we need to meet up. Lol.
Wait, that's too assertive. Pretend I didn't say that.
@PunkinPie Cats out of the bag babe. In keeping with the theme of this question, you've now made the first move lol.
I know, but I'm trying to practice being less bossy. I am a boss, and I have to have quick answers and be assertive all the time at work, but I'm trying to practice scaling it back. I should have been a little more flirty.
"If I saw you making eyes at me, I would definitely want to come talk to you."
@PunkinPie How about you just message me instead?
I can't. It says I'm not allowed.
Not always true , i think more of us guys need to learn to make the first move.
Guys make the first move plenty, time for women to step up
@tyber1 I want to agree, but I feel hypocritical in doing so, as my last 3-4 girlfriends have all been the one to ask me out. I feel really lucky, but I also need to ask people out more because usually when someone asks someone else out, it ends up being a hail mary of dating up and having waaay more to gain than lose. That's what I've seen anecdotally with girls and guys at least.
Most of the virgins on gag do. The rest are too busy being rejected.
Yes, as long as they make it clear and don't try to play mind games.
Considering that thats the best picture I've takin in years then sure
What I just read is something 95% of men already feel is painfully obvious and what 95% of women decide they don't believe because reasons.
I don't see it as being any different than a guy making the first move
Lol because they don't want to feel rejected or something
Yeah because he will know that you really want sex then, every time we do it it's a rejection and we get tired of trying and getting the I don't feel like it since we always feel like
well you can wait for some time but make sure to drop hints if you are interested or the guy would think you have no interest and won't make a move and even after that a guy doesn't make a move then you do
I'm attracted to confident women (not to be confused with arrogance), so in some cases this can be true
yes, but in my case, it's because I believe I'm a solid 5/10 at best and usually think that even average girls are like an 8/10 and I lack the confidence to approach a girl.
yes, coz guys are afraid of being seen as a creep, and then there's also fear of rejection.
yeah, so much this. Women are almost never seen as creepy when asking a guy out, and even get a bonus amount of affection after doing it. Guys are still seen as creepy though, and we feel guilty for not asking girls out because the guys should ask the girls out and guilty for doing it, because "you're not entitled to a girls affection" and feel generally creepy.
Even some girls that asked me out that weren't that attractive I immediately liked more, and although I feel bad for giving the cold shoulder, I still really liked the attention and if they were really persistent, then I probably would have dated them for a bit.
usually in nature, the male counterpart make the first move.
lol where have all the alpha males gone? most men these days are beta pussies.
this is not true at all. other people have claimed the same thing, there's enough scientific evidence nowadays that there are a myriad of species across the animal kingdom where females initiate. read the replies on other opinions, I gave plenty of evidence.
Yeah, that's what happens when Feminism...
why do you have to bring in some sexism? This sounds like something sexist one of the worst bro-dudes would say. Why can't it be more equal? I thought that was part of the whole equality thing that half of the responsibility for a lot of things are now on both sides, not just for guys.
Well if we really want to get into this discussion, in many animal species where the males are the sexual aggressors they manage to hold onto most or all of the females by savagely murdering perceived competition, or at the very least they will threaten to. Soo maybe not the best model to follow, unless you want men to murder each other over you and you're just stuck with whoever wins.
To me, it is yes - at least for some guys. However, that doesn't mean that I won't EVER make the first move.
Probably less but I do want that so it wouldn't surprise me too much
not too sure of the statistics but i do like it if the girl makes the first move every now and then. not all the time though.
girls do not make moves they make gesture you have to pick up on this. this does not mean it is always a move.
yep. will save me embarrassment. but the more you wait the more awkward it will feel. picture relevant.
I wish they would because those "hints" they drop I only fully process them after the girl isn't interested anymore.
Yes, i never start.. Because every time i started with girl i depressed because her ego
Yeah they act superior as soon as you raise interest... annoying as hell..
Yaaaaa
Clearly you have never been in a dual the person who moves second always dies
of course it's true. its a man's dream.
I wouldn't be surprised about that really.
its awesome when the girl makes the first move
Yea that would be nice
I'm. It surprised by this.
id be down for them to make the first move
maybe yes coz sometimes guys afraid of girl's reaction
I liked it when it happened to me.
for me it's 100% it's a turn on
That's because you're 17
that has nothing to do with it
SURE IT DOESN'T!!! You seem to know a lot about dating and about women
@Abe90 that darn fool, if only someone had told him that women weren't supposed to ever express interest in a man /s
@tyber1 TOTALLY!!! Silly me thinking that men approach women. Why didn't I realize that women ALWAYS approach men. SHAME ON ME!!!
@Abe90 He is young so he must be wrong right? Ageism at it's best.
@Abe90 hey genius, men want women to approach but young women especially have enough options that they don't mind being lazy, which is why men are still the pursuers most of the time. It has nothing to do with anything inherent, it's a matter of options. There's no reason for you to shame this guy for thinking that it's sexy for a woman to show interest in him. I don't know who pissed in your milk this morning to make you want to shit on someone's feelings like that, but go fuck yourself.
@tyber1 oh my god, could you be ANYMORE wrong? Let me grab my notepad and take down the insightful notes that you're making. Clearly you guys seem to know what women really want. Hey, here's an interesting thought, before you start assuming about what guys want, maybe you might consider talking to a woman first and seeing what their response to this is. You MIGHT!!! YOU MIGHT!!! Be surprised. But don't take my word for it, cuz apparently I'm an "ageist" and had "piss in my milk" this morning. Thank you master gurus for the insightful information. Can you answer a question for me guys? How retarded are these guys to think that their "information is very accurate?
@Abe90 It's obvious that the majority of girls sit back being a prude and make very less effort to ask men out so it isn't a surprise that the poll said 95% of guys want girls to ask them out. Girls always enjoy the power of rejection and acceptation and they don't want to lose their power.
Guess what, some modern girls started asking men out and faced rejection a couple of times. Only then did they realize how tough it is for a man.
I don't now why there is so much hate on here I know that girls don't go after men but I have had a couple that have and I personally like it that doesn't mean they all do it
@Abe90 perhaps I don't care what women think on the matter since most of them are full of their own shit anyways. Ever consider that?
@bigdaddy_699 I'm trying to prove a point and I did since Mr. @tyber1 is saying that women are "full of shit". He's clearly not being passive about this at all. But hey, apparently he wants to prove himself right and try to embarrass me. He's doing a MAGNIFICENT job at it. Whatever his argument was, he just lost any credibility after his last statement he made
I'm just calling people out on their bullshit and stating the facts.
@Abe90 How exactly did I prove you right by not being passive? In what way did I lose my credibility? I'm trying to get inside your head to understand what the fuck you're talking about, but it seems like nonsense to me. Perhaps you'd be interested in clarifying.
@tyber1 lol you're such a moron. You're not getting into mind dude. Your previous statement "women think on the matter since most of them are full of their own shit anyways." is where you went downhill. Just stop arguing; you're making yourself look foolish already
@Abe90 How though? If I'm being an idiot, explain it to me coherently. All I've seen so far from you is name calling. I like name calling too when someone is being an idiot, but I usually like to explain to them why they're wrong and thus acting like an idiot.
Because to me, whether guys like being approached has nothing to do with whether women want to approach. It's a matter of preference. Do I think women are full of shit? Absolutely. They want it their way, all the way. They don't care what they might miss out on as a result. That still doesn't invalidate whether a guy can like being approached.
Whomever made that meme hasn't dated much.
Why do people still believe in "studies"?
Yeah makes life easier.
Yeah that seems accurate.
yes. it make life a lot easier
I'd rather she made the forst move for sure
I don't date to begin with so idgaf.
lol everyone prefers someone else to do the work
So true
yes but girls rarely make the first move
Yes!
but your link is broken.
Oops. I'm not sure on how to update the question on the app anyway.
But it's good to hear this
I don't have the app so I can't tell you.
Why is it good to hear this?
Cause I was thinking about kissing this guy
Do it! It's sexy! And if he doesn't like you you have your answer.
Ok. Hopefully he will like it
Study shows 100% of people who breathe air die.
it would be nice but I don't expect it
Yes, i do.
I don't About Others But I want this
I agree