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First things first. Every one has their own person definition for liberal and conservative and they expect everyone to automatically understand their definitions without telling anyone. So before i answer, here is how i will define liberal and conservative for my reply:
Liberal - Tolerant of different thought's and beliefs, willing to try new things, (foods, activities, sexual activities, movies, shows, just things in general.)
Conservative - Comfortable in her own ways and expects a partner that fits into her comfort zone. Knows exactly what she wants and only wants that without wanting to try new things.
Relive it or not people in GENERAL have conservative AND liberal features pertaining to different aspects of their life. There are sexually liberal girls with conservative career plans. But since you're asking me to choose, i would rather be in a relationship with a liberal girl because I'd want to experience different things and have a partner who is open to that as well.
NO ONE is 100% liberal or a 100% conservative. If you were talking about politics, sorry.
Conservative. Conservative women tend to be less promiscuous, tend to value marriage, children and family a lot more, tend not to be feminists or misandrists and as a result tend to be more feminine, tend not to obsess over emasculating their own sons which I see in a lot of liberal women these days. Of course I'm generalising but that's the way I see the difference in most convervative vs liberal girls I know.
Truth is that the labels of conservative and liberal aren't super indicative of anything at all and in order to truly classify someone I reckon a more specific term, eg. "democratic socialist" would be a better way to come to that conclusion. Plus I find that even within those brackets, people's understanding of the term do differ, so it's really person specific. Personally, I wouldn't date anyone that was an extremist either way, SJW or Nazi, neither someone that was super in your face about their political beliefs. Other than that I don't really care, as long as they respect me and my political beliefs.
I just assume that guys who refuse to date liberal girls are threatened by strong outspoken women.
I mean, if you are conservative and you prefer to date someone who shares your opinions, that's understandable. But having a bold hatred for any woman who identifies as liberal is, yeah, a little insecure.
No some men just don't like women who are believe impulsiveness is a good trait or who walk all over them while explaining why they (men) are worthless and not needed by society. Some men want a woman who actually cares about them and doesn't treat them like they are a second class citizen or a woman who he knows doesn't sleep around.
Lmfao... Adam I feel you bro.
Omg yes!!! I agree with this so much. I'm also seeing so many men saying liberal women sleep around and are "fat, ugly, etc." It's totally coming off as a sort of insecurity or fear. I guess most men want a women who shuts up and never questions them or their values.
I also noticed a lot of these men with conservative-pref have a hatred for feminists. That's pretty funny because they're discrediting true feminism by tapping into their hatred for "feminazis" and neg. instances of neo-feminism. Everyone should be a feminist. The only issue with feminism are the extremists who take it out of context.
@PancakeSenpai Yeah you have never met a conservative woman clearly. It has nothing to do with that. It has to do with liberal women blaming men for everything, which they do, of claiming how they don't need men (ignoring the fact that they then vote for laws that take the resources from men and redistribute it towards women) etc. etc. Its when women claim to be strong and independent but then demand the government pay for everything (and again the government gets its money from men) and demand men do everything for them and if a man looks at them its "rape" so a man can't be a man around a liberal woman, he has to act more and more effeminate but that itself only causes the man to gain the womans scorn so its a lose lose for him. Its feminist/liberals who are most unhappy with their lives and conseravtives who are more happy. Liberal woman are also more likely to divorce then conservatives which of course means less chance to lose everything for a man.
That feel when men who prefer conservative women use their negative experiences with liberal women to justify why all liberal women are the same.
It seems that conservative women generally tend to be more submissive to men (as someone on here has also pointed out from experience). You can't know whether or not someone is geniunely happy. Liberal women have the right to want to escape relationships with men who don't treat them correctly or make them feel like their values and opinions do not matter. Don't use your negative experiences and feelings of being invalidated as a man cause you to group women with certain political outlooks together. You may even end up with a conservative woman who takes out life insurance on you and poisons you the next day. Neither party is the better option.
Also kind of sad that men still have this obsession with "being a man" in terms of their relationships with women. What does that even mean? I honestly feel like being so fixated on such is problematic and can cause a lot of internal conflict, family issues, and things like homophobia.
@PancakeSenpai Okay, well we know based upon what they themselves report so unless your saying that all conservative women are liars or all liberal women (and men) are liars that's not a good argument. Further more claiming that a woman has the right to exist a relationship is a poor argument, its a straw man, no one said they where leaving relationships because they where mistreated, in fact 43% of women who divorce regret it within the first week, over 50% regret it within a year and according to one survey over 70% regretted it within ten years. Further more we would have to ignore the fact that men are not leaving relationships despite the fact that they are actually more likely to be verbally and emotionally abused and more likely to be physically abused by their spouse (according to the CDC/NCVS and third party groups). So why is it that if men are at least as mistreated they still rarely divorce yet liberal women divorce incredibly frequently? It doesn't add up.
@PancakeSenpai The fact is liberal women are far more likely to be unhappy according to liberal women, and they are far more likely to divorce. We know that to be true. We also know that they are more likely to sleep around then conservative women (liberals have more sex and generally tend to have more sexual partners) which has been shown to increase probability of divorce (1% chance with one partner, 16% with two, etc.), increased probability of cheating (those who score in the upper half of the sociosexually unrestricted scale have a 50% probability of cheating and/or divorce, these people have a liberal view on sex). Further more your statements themselves proves my point, some how its all a lie, its because (evil) men want submissive women with no opinions etc etc. This shows that you clearly think very little of men if you think this is what men want or what conservatives want (showing that you are intolerant to a difference of opinion).
@PancakeSenpai As for this "obsession" men have with being a man, that's another reason why men generally are shying away from liberal women. First and fore most its not an obsession, we are men so we are going to want to act like ourselves not like a woman, not like some androgenous being like so many liberal women demand act like, but rather men. How we behave is not something that is shameful, we shouldn't be shamed for being masculine or wanting to be masculine yet this is exactly what the left and liberal women do. The other problem is women don't want a man who isn't masculine, your still going to expect him to be the pursuer, you still expect him to pay (yes you do, every woman does, statistically and even your excuses that she offers are still stated with the expectation that he pays or you dump him because he wasn't "interested" in you because he accepted your offer, again this is fact) you still expect him to act like the man, make more money then you
@PancakeSenpai (women who earn more then their husbands by a significant amount report being unhappy with their relationships and are more likely to divorce and cheat). So that's utter crap as well, its not what reality shows us. As for all your other claims, well again that shows that you really hate masculinity as you think its some how intrinsicly harmful. Homophobia? How is being masculine equitable to homophobia? Have you ever heard of Jack Donovan? He is an author that rights about masculinity and encourages it, he is also gay (he preffers the term androphilie because so many (especially the left) equate homosexuality with being feminine which he finds to be untrue). I mean your disdain for men and masculinity is quite apparent, so why would a man want to be with you? You don't like men, you want men to shut up and let you dictate what he can and cannot do, can and cannot say, can and cannot believe while also expecting him to still be a man as you try and prevent him from being
@PancakeSenpai one. No man wants that. That's why men are starting to want conservative women, women who believe sex should be viewed as special and meaningful, who love men as they are i. e. men and will not demand that they change who they are, a woman who is willing to provide the feminine that men need as a counter balance to their masculinity. Liberal women are essentially mentally androgenous, we don't know what you are and you don't seem to bring anything to the table as we have the masculine down and all we need is the feminine but liberal women don't have that to offer so most men don't really want to be with them if they can help it.
@hellion The fact that you're trying to TELL ME what I THINK and that it's "thinking very little of men" proves my point actually. Did I say all men want submissive women? Nope. If you're reading into it that much, and trying to twist my point of view around to match your own intolerance and issues with women. I guess your ego must have been hurt pretty badly by a liberal woman. It'd be more wise of you to remove all of the "you" and "your" in your responses. You seem very troubled, don't tell me who I am and what I like. Don't talk to me as if I'm the liberal woman or individuals that hurt your poor soul.
Homophobia is a result of parents teaching their children that for a man to femine in the slightest is to be frowned upon. Homophobia is a result of men telling other men it's not manly to hug eachother and cry. Not all gay men behave in a "feminine" manner, but men AND women who are bent over the notion of "masculinity" derive misconceptions and believe ALL gay men are suppoded to act feminine. This is why people are generally shocked when a gay men doesn't dress in tight jeans or talk like stereotypical teenage girl. This is what causes men to believe that men in public that if gat men look in their direction even once they're trying to pursue them. This makes them believe they should avoid gay men like the plague. Not all men turn out this way, but this faux notion of masculinity has got to go when it blinds people and makes them behave differently to others or become someone else because of what society says.
You're also trying to speak for all men and all liberal women which is absurd. Your points are invalid and guided entirely by your personal feelings. Thank you for trying though; passion noted.
You've also continued with the notion of "being a man" without explaining what it means. The fact is, there is no solid meaning. Whatever you want to hold onto is okay. No one asks for "manly men" (LOL) to become feminine. The objective is to get men to no longer look down upon men who do not follow the typical standard for what men are supposed to do and behave like.
I don't even care about my typos honestly. Only on the internet do you truly see how people think and how boxed in they are. This would be similar to me saying, "You're a conservative man and all conservative men are racist, sexist, and only care about money. Women do not want that." That's ignorant, and it's apparent at this point that so are you.
I also hope you're in the right mental state of mind to realize not all conservative women value sex as something special. You'd be lying to yourself if you think that conservative women never sleep around.
How dare a man want to be loved as he is if he can't love a woman as she is. Straight men like this with these so called conservative values and pursuits seem to be seriously clinging onto this singular (?) notion of masculinity. I guess if a woman wants wants to be treated like a human being she can't be feminine. I guess if a woman wants to have piercings or dye her hair she can't be feminine. I guess most liberal women are sluts and conservative women are saints.
I guess if a woman wants a man to express his emotions to her, she's a damned liberal feminazi who wants him to be feminine. Because, yknow, being emotional is *totally* girly~❤✨ Oops! I guess if a woman wants a man to cook dinner for her and take turns doing so, she's too masculine. I guess if a woman divorces her husband instead of him her, she is trying to "be like a man." I guess if liberal women divorce a lot and they "tend to be MORE unhappy", they're unhappy because they're silly little feminists. Nah, they're not unhappy because quality men--who don't have a need to put emphasis on masculinity to save their egos in front of women--are hard to find. That's ridiculous!
I'm not telling any conservative men to have a preference for liberal women / NOT date conservative women. I'm hoping that these men will stop making generalizations and eventually develope sense.
@PancakeSenpai No that's stupid. I am not telling you what to think, I am saying if all you can do is attack men then clearly you cannot have much respect for them. That's like me saying how women are overly emotional and its highly destructive to them and society, that they are constantly taking the safe and easy route, that they are selfish and are willing to abandon men and their families at a drop of a hat. But I respect women. What would your response be to that? You would call bullshit. That's all I did. No you stated that a man wanting a woman who was submissive was some how wrong, that wanting a woman who was not acting like a man was some how wrong. As for my ego, how did you hurt my ego? Your ego is definitely bruised that's why you can't handle the idea that men would preffer a woman who is well feminine rather then the more masculine liberal woman. I was just pointing out how your argument was crap. Your personal opinion doesn't and never will matter to me,
@PancakeSenpai I just don't like people blaming others and acting superior, or women who do nothing but belittle men. Its disgusting behavior, no different then the men who talk about men being superior to women, you think that being masculine is bad, that everything male is some how wrong as you yourself stated when you accused it of being responsible for homophobia which it is not as through out all of history it was argued that homosexuality was more masculine (this was argued in rome as in order to attract women many men wore makeup. It was also argued this in feudal japan where it was deemed only a warrior could truly understand and love a warrior), or that men where not as emotional as women because of masculinity forcing them not to be which again is not the case.
@PancakeSenpai In fact they do express their emotions it just women demand that men express themselves in the exact same way women express themselves that's the problem. You don't tolerate men expressing themselves as they see fit, it has to be your way or they have "toxic masculinity" and are damaging themselves or some other absurd notion. That's the problem. The fact is men are biologically less able to cry then women, we have fewer tear ducts and wider channels meaning we produce fewer tears but require more of them in order to start crying. Yet of course that some how is our fault because we don't wallow in our emotions and instead choose to channel our emotions into projects and things that are productive. See, your the problem if men don't act like women they are bad and they need to be "fixed". That's your mentality, its sickening to be honest. I mean honestly imagine that, imagine if a man told you that you crying was toxic femininity and it made you weak and you needed
@PancakeSenpai to be fixed so that you could do things the right way, which just so happened to be the way men express emotions. Would you be as accepting of this then? Of course not, but since its you dictating to men what they can and cannot do what they can and cannot feel its okay. Again, that's the problem, you don't want men to be men you act like men are some how faking it, that we are broken and we need to be fixed and operate more like a woman (never mind that our masculinity is biological as has been proven again and again and again, or how those same evil and bad traits is what kept our species alive and created our advanced society). As for you saying men can be manly, no you just attacked men who don't act like women and men who want women who behave in a certain way so clearly your not earnest when you say that. As for looking down on men who act that way, the only reason why they do is because a man who acts like a woman is not only of no use to society
@PancakeSenpai because he can never provide the things women can and thus is a second rate woman, but because no woman will ever want him meaning his best option is going to be a guy who gets used by these women. I mean your never going to respect a man who isn't masculine no matter how you try to argue otherwise, we know this because women divorce these men all the time, they ridicule them, the "nice guys", the guys who are their to be the shoulder for you/women to cry on only until they find the masculine guy they want. We don't want them being used by you that's all.
Pancakesempai, you're going to be single forever with that view. If not, prevent a man's suicide by not dating him liberal women are psychological terrorists to men; emotional manipulation Accusations of rape, false sense of entitlement and victimization, unfairly getting custody of kids, and forcing men to pay child support. You've swallowed the blue pill whole and then some. You can live in your fantasy world, but you'd best be a lesbian, because you'll never get a man.
@Adam_INTJ Yeah, liberal women sure have a hard time finding dates. 😂
In conclusion, most conservative men (esp on this GAG post) have weak egos and need validation from submissive women. They think they speak for every man, and pretend to know everything about every woman based on her political background to mask their butthurt. The end ❤
Liberal women can easily identify and avoid typical pos conservative men. In such, they have hard time finding real men since they're rarities**
No, men look for loyal women that have the gift of contentment. Not submissive. I like a girl who is confident to speak her mind, but I have a problem with feminists who insist on seeing more men than 1 and come back to complain that all the men she knows are tash and ought to do more for her. Liberal women tend to be narcissists. I don't tolerate people stepping all over me to attain social luxuries that they don't need. Being able to blame some nonexistent "patriarchy" for your own shortcomings is a luxury. being able to shame others for judging your polygamy, that's a luxury. Men don't get away with as much as you think. Liberal girls keep insisting that men help them get away with things that men can't get away with themselves. Liberal girls are sexist. That needs no more explanation.
@Adam_INTJ
We both are. In fact as we've grown older we've both become more conservative.
@PancakeSenpai Yeah that's stupid. You quite literally proved my point that you look down at men. Also while liberal women definitely will get men to sleep with them they actually are statistically more likely to divorce and are statistically speaking less attractive then conservative women. Seriously, that's a statistical fact: godfatherpolitics.com/.../
and you can just feel the bitterness in this one: jezebel.com/.../hot-or-not-why-conservative-women-are-prettier-than-liberal-ladies
The fact is your more likely to be miserable and that makes every one around you miserable, in fact just responding to your comments has proven that point. Liberal women can't compete so they get angry and attack men and women who are not them. Anne coulter is not a woman I would term "submissive", neither is Lauren Southern or Tomi Lauren. But you keep telling yourself that we are the ones who are the evil sexist all while you insult and attack men and any woman who is not like you.
@hellionthesagereborn
Those are hate facts, you insecure misogynist pos. Lindy West is right that prettiness is subjective, and that conventional standards of beauty are destructive. Her and her liberal friends are all gorgeous.
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Just look at her. Stood there with a real man by the way. I bet he's good with hugging his friends and crying. This is much more healthy by the way:
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Healthy at every size.
@englisc Very healthy, mind and body clearly.
Englisc, liberal girls will get liberal guys, and liberal guys will suck at their job, get fired, then the family goes down the tubes: no kids and natural selection strikes again. Either that or the liberal girl will abort her kids or fail to raise them (because having kids is "oppression" according to feminism. Liberal girls are going extinct, you don't mate with a species that's going out of style.
@Adam_INTJ
That's probably a big exaggeration but it is true that liberals tend to have less children, atheists also. They'll soon be outbred. Liberalism is self destructive.
I'm a girl.
I have been called both Liberal and Conservative before.
I guess everyone has their definition of liberal and conservative lol.
I guess I'm a centrist.
I think the preference of guys varies from place to place.
I agree with u everyone has a different definitions of things
@Mohammed1996 ☺☺☺
@Mohammed1996 Exactly
I have been called Conservative for not wearing bikinis and I have been called Liberal for not wearing a hijab
Lol 😂 it’s still better than they call u infidel or operative to the west like my people do
What is considered liberal or conservative varies from place to place. But the preferences comes down to the same. The more family-oriented and committed a guy wants a relationship to be, the more likely he is to want a rather conservative girl.
@Mohammed1996 I guess lol
Americans call me a terrorist and online takfiri trolls do takfir on me lol
Let me guess are you Jordanian?
No I’m Saudi
@Mohammed1996 I was born and raised in Jeddah lol!
@FakeName123 Yeah it would make sense.
Wow, where do u live now?
@Mohammed1996 I'm studying in Paris but I'm Tunisian
Lol I thought u Jordanian especially you wear this kind of clothing , Tunisia is nice
@Mohammed1996 yeah it's a dress I bought from Saudi Arabia haha!
Thanks!
I thought you were Jordanian because you look a bit levantine
Hijaz is multicultural u can find people who originally Turkish Kurdish Persian Indian black white etc
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I am conservative but I have dated both conservative and liberal girls. I don;t need someone who always agrees with me as long as we are both respectful concerning our differences.
Conservatism has certain negative associations in my mind, such as being prosaic, bland, plain and not questioning authority/having novel thoughts.
However, I certainly don't like the worst excesses of liberal people. Being heedless, eschewing any physicality to the cost of any basic vitality, putting abstractions and novel concepts before, actually, you know, people.
Both extremes are annoying really. But I can't stand the plain soul crushing inanity of the mass the most. So I'll take a commie girl, if I'm forced to choose :P
It just depends. Liberal about what and conservative about what?
It just depends of what behaviors and life issues she's L about or C about. Most of us tend to be more L or C about different areas of our lives.
For example, I want a woman who is conservative regarding nudity. I'd not want to date an actress who kisses male co-stars for a job and or poses naked for an art drawing class etc. I'd want someone conservative who want to keep that stuff private. In other areas I may want someone more liberal.
I can't believe the amount of generalizations I'm seeing here. Seriously, have you guys never stepped 5 feet away from your front door before, or do you truly believe that opposing opinions and beliefs are attacks at the very core of your existence? Or both?
Anyway, mini rant aside, I have a mix of views that would be considered both "conservative" and "liberal" so I'm not inclined to reject anyone who has views stemming from either side, the only thing that would turn me off would be someone who identifies their political beliefs with their identity (which I swear to Jesus Christ almighty must be 99% of the human population so I could very well be dying alone but I digress.)
Basically, if you take it as a personal attack if I have a different opinion over you, or you can't have a discussion about something political without getting defensive, then I'm not interested.
Makes no difference.
*See thread about girl suddenly not ok with abortion because boyfriend threatens to leave her over it.
Fickle, self absorbed, and emotional. Put no stock in a woman's political beliefs. Nor a man with low T, he's just trying to bang ^^^^^^^^ this person. And probably failing at it.
Oh you love high taxes while you're single? *two years later* Oh you're a stay at home mom and you suddenly hate high taxes?
Oh you hate guns? *Two years later* Oh you bought a gun after that one time you got your face kicked in a robbed in a parking garage?
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Does not matter. It is a persons right to follow what they feel is right. Pushing there beliefs or values on to others is not attractive. Open discussion is a huge plus and trying to see things from another's point of view shows the other person is secure and not treated by other ideas. Way left is bad, way right is bad. Ying and yang, balance is where peace is found, that is true at the individual level and on the big scale.
I preffer a moderate/conservative leaning girl because I know she will be better suited for long term relationships being more inclined towards traditional roles and not being afraid of being feminine. She would also be more likely to see sex as something more then just something that feels good which is preferable as I think sex is more then just for pleasure but rather for intimacy and connection.
The liberal bashing on this site is insane and illustrates a large problem in the US. People just blame the "other" for all of their problems without getting to know anyone from the other side. I know it's easy to just say the other side is causing all of the problems but we can all do better than that.
@JoseMadre You're just proving my point by presenting a straw-man so you can blame liberals.
Classical liberal girl tends to share the most of my values.
I want her to have her own identity, not be part of this group mentality that is rampant these days and i want her to threat people as individuals and care about freedom.
If she does those things she would be a great political match for me, if not and she is not very active about it it can still work as ill respect her views. But if she is very vocal about views that oppose mine i can't imagine a relationship working out.
I prefer girls who are smart enough to know that political labels are meaningless bullshit. I prefer girls that are smart and logical and rational. No vote.
If she is not so "owned" by a political agenda then it does not really matter. This tells me she can think for herself and does not need the BS media, education system, movies or music to tell her how to think.
Oddly, this is getting difficult to find today. People today are being trained how not to think for themselves. And this is the major reason I have been single for around 8 years.
LIARS! . it has nothing to do with conservative or liberal
truth be told . guys like the modest submissive stfu and listen type girl . as well as . . .
the quiet pretty Sunday cake baking church going obedient pregnant cheatable wifey .
its in the dna of the ideal miss American pussy grab trump paradigm . along with . . .
the backup of the run of the mill sour self loathing angry misogynist anti fem gtow types .
i dont think thats true again with the generalization you can't judge a whole group based on the actions of a few
@troychapman
you have never heard of the principle of measured stereotype accuracy?
well here is one . men are more violent than women .
everyone knows not all men are more violent than women . however there is no
stereotype condition to contradict the measured accuracy of that generalization .
what i said above is a legitimate example of measured stereotypical accuracy .
just bc there is 1 or a few exceptions does not make a generalization false
the majority condition of a generalization renders the assertion more accurate than not .
so there !
I pick conservative because I want someone that is exclusive, thinks sex is only for someone you have a strong emotional connection and thinks hook ups/ONS are immoral. I want someone that doesn't do drugs (marijuana included), will work/contribute to our future family, but realizes that making as much money as possible isn't important, and time spent together as a family with the kids is more important.
Conservative girls will giggle when pinched, instead of starting a lawsuit.
Why would you go around pinching women? Don't be suprised a woman wants to sue you after you pinched her in a place you shouldn't have.
@BoyIfYouDont666 I assume you are a ‘liberal’.. That seems to mean, you hate everyone different from you. Just like Don Trump, really.
Can you answer the question as to why you go around pinching women? Then being suprised you get a lawsuit?
@BoyIfYouDont666 These aren’t my employees or anything like that.. I don’t use my position of power to harass them. It’s on a level of equality, just a way of flirtation.
So far I only get slapped or spanked, never sued!
I think most dudes rock team: as long as she's cool and not either extreme I'll smash.
You don know
again with the dude only want sex things its kinda annoying have you considered maybe as long as she's a decent girl ill be with her?
@troychapman It was a joke dude, relax. Lol. No need to get sensitive.
I want her to have her own political beliefs that are unique to her, not just be in blind, lockstep loyalty to one party or another.
I would like it if she's already aware of the concept of a "two-party dictatorship," but I can bring new people up to speed no problem.
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I don't give a shit about any of this. I don't like to put myself into boxes. My opinions will vary according to the topic and I don't need to label them.
I think that most normal people would just avoid extremes when it comes to choosing a partner.
Conservative, because, honestly i don´t and won´t want to ever have to deal with a girl that had tons of sex with guys who got abs and bulging muscles when she was younger, bacause these girls are so spoiled that every future man she gets in contact with after the phase of ripped men will just have their lives turned into a living hell by the fucking spoiled girl.
Conservative. I want someone with a bit of sense about her. Liberal women are immature, sleep around, have female chauvinist views that demean and devalue men and they treat men as nothing more than walking, talking cashpoints (although if they got their way, we'd all be house husbands and dependent on them for money).
Simples...
I am about the most conservative person most people will ever meet. I mean, I am conservative to the extent that fascism is not an inaccurate label for me. Ironically though, I prefer liberal girls just for the companionship although I respect conservative girls more for their emphasis on family, God, and tradition. I just wish that liberal girls were less crazy and opposed to family, God, and tradition while I wish that conservative girls had more of an actual personality to keep me interested.
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