Nah, models got a different problem. They have to figure out who genuine and who's trying to get into her pants. Granted that most women but figure with models it's a lot harder.
@SydneySentinel: So you're telling me that she goes for a guy she thinks is "out if her league" to the downside? I don't think so. I think how he sees himself is irrelevant.
Sorry if you've had some bad experiences! In my opinion, I totally appreciate the nerve it takes to approach someone and ask them out, and even if I'm not interested, I will be as totally kind as I can be about it. If you asked someone out and they were rude about it, you dodged a bullet. Trust me, they did you a favor in the long run!
@mamasan The reason I am afraid of rejection. The only people I ever asked to have any form of a relationship, was a girl I knew when I was 7 and she was 13, I asked her to marry me, needless to say it was an awkward ride home. The other time was when I was 8 a Disney cast character at the Disney world said I could marry her if I had a ring with a large diamond, so I was with my family and my dad's boss and I asked him if I could buy his ring from him and he said if I gave him 100 buck, so I asked my dad. He and his boss kept joking around and the some of the other started laughing at me in the group. I also use to make those kissy face at girls in kindergarten and would get in trouble, because they would say that I kissed them, which was a total fib. Also, the first girl who I told that I liked her was at a camp when I was young and I ended up being ordered around all summer and forced to eat soap and give her my food. I basically am to anxious to talk to any girls about any of my feelings.
Keep me out your stories I'd appreciate it not everyone is passive aggressive. Got lucky your rooms near the corner huh? Always nice to have two privacy isn't itš
LOL, if I have something to say about models that pertains to the discussion, I'll say it. It's not me bringing in extraneous stuff and distorting it, and you'd be shrieking if someone did.
Not neccesarily he could be sure of himself and see himself as a prize but if he gets rejected his assurance in himself can be damaged and the more he gets rejected the more he loses his confidence even the most confident of people can be brought low
What if she is suffering herself? What if she is not ready to date? Doesn't know him? Is simply pompous or stuck up? Or maybe she misunderstood intentions?
That's irrelevant he's still gonna be damaged by it its not like she doesn't have a right to reject him but its the failure he is scared of not of the person
No its irrelevant to the point I was making when I started I said that its the fear itself not anything to do with the girl seeing as you said guys are afraid of girls
Girls are WAY more scared. They've had less practice at it. I'm sure it's really hard for both sexes, but males do it more, so they have obviously been able to overcome this fear to some extent. It's good that their biological desire is so strong when they're young. There needs to be something pushing them past the fear. (Now it's girls' turn.)
I really donāt know as I have not spoken with all 7 billion something humans in the planet and written up a statical graph 😉💜💜
Personally I have no problem approaching a guy. My problems see what to do after.. but Iām OK at initiating stuff.
I donāt care if guys are expected to or if the guy will think Iām desperate or pushy for doing so. I would like to see his reaction to my being direct. Very important to me.. It gives me important information.
I donāt want a sexist guy nor a hypocrite. I also donāt want to see myself asking ā is he interestedā when Iām perfectly capable of asking HIM.. bc it means Iām accepting first that I should he Immobilized and made passive. This to me is far worse than any rejection. F*ck that.
I understand some people can be shy and that is fine and I donāt think women need to go ask guys out just to prove a point. I also think guys donāt have to be tye one to beer the burden. What I donāt like is when women WANT to initiate but wonāt fit fear of judgement. No point accommodating absurdity in the first place.
Anyhow, for people who want love.. relationships can be beautiful and they can hurt like #%^*! No matter the gender and it wonāt save you bc you were not the one to first ask.
Not initiating or initiating, is just the beginning. I think people get way too wrapped up in what to do BEFIRE they even get into the relationship.
Itās like people who sit for hours in the car before getting in the road. It doesnāt help. It just makes the car stuffy.
Probably women. Men might be afraid to but the expectation for us to approach has always been there. Most of us has at least some experience.
Girls on the other hand are used to being chased and are discouraged from approaching. It sucks because if a girl has never been approached most likely sheāll feel undesirable and wonāt even know approaching herself is an option. Like those really beautiful girls who rarely get approached because their looks intimidate men? Those women could easily start approaching but most donāt because they donāt feel desirable AND are discouraged from approaching.
I guess, on average, girls are... Once we get attached, we invest more into the relationship; so, if things go bad, the disappointment and heartache will also be more intense... For that reason, I think girls are more reticent to approach romantic affairs. But, of course, counter-examples can be found for any behavior from either gender.
@chris_987 I did not make any claim, but simply shared my personal experience from the relationships I have directly witnessed. Evidence makes connotation to a scientific study that is not the objective here. We share our personal experiences, which are, by nature, subjective. Obviously, someone else, male or female, with a different experience could provide a different viewpoint no less valid than mine.
@chris_987 Well, to begin with, the asker was not looking for a solution to anything. The title she used is clearly inviting different viewpoints to an open question.
More generally, I don't think everyone who uses this site has the same single purpose. But, I can say that if you're looking to find "definitive" solution to problems (a very vast and vague definition anyway), you're in the wrong place. You may have realized that most answers here lack some basic depth or coherence to begin with, much less offer a solution.
Yeah but if your smart enough to see patterns in the way the two sexes answer questions you might be closer to a solution. So like you for instance said girls get more attached and invest more into the realtionship. A quick google search on site quora and reddit would reveal that girls do see themselves in a relationship more quickly than guys and have often already planned out there lives together when the man might not have even taken her on a date. So if you start to see a pattern you can draw conclusions and use it to navigate those unsure situations where your not really sure what the opposite sex is thinking. If you not trying to figure out why you keep making the same mistake then how do you expect to be in control of your own life? You gotta to a point where you can see a certain of behaviour a mile away and be able to act accordingly. Anyways I think Iāve said enough.
@chris_987 Your points are valid, in general, but I am not the addressee of them. I haven't asked the original question, nor do I advocate that GAG should be used to solve one's own personal problems in life. So, I don't understand why you're directing your questions to me (unless you were thinking out loud, which is then fine).
Actually, I think any person should attempt to solve his/her problems through active, real-life interactions with real people, and not use opinions of dubious personalities on the Internet as a proxy. In that regard, the site itself does not really matter.
Thatās probably was the case before the internet existed. But now because of it where more quick to google a question than to solve it ourselves. Itās both a good and a bad thing, because now you can get the answers more quickly but they arenāt always right. Like those womanās magazines that tell women how to treat there man. We all now itās wrong information but women still read and surprised when it doesnāt work.
It's getting to be guys simply because the act of having a conversation with the opposite sex can lead to accusations of rape, and sexual harassment post #metoo
No problem This is the first weekend i have had where i get to take a break lol.. On a side note though My response doesn't apply to all women.. not like you or the wife, Im talking about your liberal leftist girls. The ones who were raised to believe that the world and specifically men owe them something.
I left home at 18 as the shyest guy in the world and moved in with strangers 100 + miles away, so I realised it was going to be sink or swim, I realised I had to throw myself into situations even if I felt totally awkward otherwise I'd sink (hence I have a few strange stories as I literally used to do anything that would take me out of my comfort zone to rid me of my shyness I had lol), I was petrified approaching girls at that time but did it just to try and improve myself, ironically that was proved to be the most successful dating period of my life lol
Girls, coz it is never expected from them. But especially those girls who hv never been proposed. Because they start thinking that they are not attractive or desirable.
(But ruining d society's expectations, I proposed to my crush>>>>Got rejected>>>Made him my bestie. Now he is still my crush, but we r also best friendsā¤)
I broke up recently... With a manipulative dude who was cheating on me. Anyway, after this incident I'm scared of approaching men now. I don't think I'd ever do it again. It's a dangerous world especially for women like me who want to save it all for marriage.
I think men cause a man has to be a lot different when dealing with the opposite sex. Not all women will react the same when u approach them an saying n doing the wrong thing can get u into a lot of trouble but it all depends on the woman n how she was raised n environment plays a big role. Basically most women are sensitive when the word sex is involved n us men have to realize this but we normally think with or penis cause I think its basically a way of expressing or feelings but of course its no excuse but it relieves the tension. so in conclusion it is more than not it would be hard 4 a man to do this
Definitely women. It's ironic because they often brag about being able to go out and get laid whenever they want if they just ask somebody, but most don't even really do that and are afraid of what would happen if they did.
Guys were built for approaching. Even when they're afraid of doing it, at the end of the day it's still in their minds to do it, they just need to gather the courage.
In my opinion girls. I come off extremely hash when a guy approaches me and it makes me off putting- I really don't mean to but its a defense mechanism for something I don't know what. I can only assume its a lot of internal things I don't want to figure out. My friends are also brutally shy, have low self esteem, or just plain old don't see a guy that they like go for them. Its really a sad thing and out of my friend group I'm actually the only one trying to change my behaviors.
Personally it terrifies me. Mainly due to a few things in the past. But, I've literally seen myself telling someone I really like and who I knew later liked me, ways of getting a guy. Even told her to date someone, I thought was better than me... So yeah I'm crap at it.
I feel as if women are afraid to approach the guy due to feeling as if they might come off too strong and end up getting ignored or rejected.. Usually itās just fear of being reprimanded or leaving an odd impression.
Well girls' idea of approaching a guy is standing near him and occasionally looking at him, hoping he'll say something. So I'd say girls are more scared. But when they actually muster up the courage to go full tilt, like guys have to do, their success ratio is likely higher than guys'.
As per @worldscolide , nowadays , I would say men , as there may very well be a risk to his social status , way of life and even liberty , with all this #meetoo male bashing frenzy. Also most women are sick of male attention , and are much nastier in their rejections towards men , but to be fair , it is dense , socially clueless , pushy simp men that turn them that way.
Tbh my experiences tell that you just need the attraction between each other. Being an ugly person or a damn James Bond do not mean anything if the girl is interested in someone else. No matter what you do, they will be blind to you.
If you have the attraction between each other, either guy or the girl already lets you to make some moves. It is all about confidence to me, it is kinda equal. Some guys are full shy, sometimes girls.
Well thereās a 20 year age difference between us. I didnāt even get my first cell phone until I was 24, we didnāt have texting OR social media so guys actually had to make a real effort, in person, or call on the phone and it was normal talking to roommates (most of us moved out of our parents place by 17/18) to leave messages. Dating was much better and much more personable. Different ages call for different measures. š
Is one of the difference between generations math skills? You aren't quite 20 years older. You aren't 39 yet š. Sorry I had to.
Also now a days guys are much more limited when it comes to where they can ask girls out. You can't do it in a gym, most now don't even like if if you ask them on the streets or public transit, and bars aren't a great place to meet quality people.
Overall I'd say guys because they do most of the approaching and thus get most of the rejection. Thankfully I have been gifted with zero fear in this area. I get rejected more than 4 out of every 5 times, but I figure you never get a hit if you don't take a swing. Some guys ask a couple of girls, get rejected, and give up. I guess it happens with women, too, but with less frequency.
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