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Newsflash: Women are bigots, hypocrites, and sexist as well! (Page 2)
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Why must everyone overcomplicate everything? Equality is about equal opportunity for whatever an individual desires, despite their race, gender, and so on. Freedom is about having choices and the individual right to make one's own choice. All this shit about feminism is just pushing the pendulum back and forth between the extremes of men abusing women or women abusing men. Everybody, stop pushing and start embodying grace! Lets not abuse each other! Lets allow individuals to just be, so long as they are allowing others to just be.
I've never heard of feminists down talking women who like living traditional lives... and this is blunt, but you're not mentioning the financial benefits that living a more traditional lifestyle can bring. it doesn't bring any in the end to be fair, for many people who don't understand $ and how it works. but the people who understand finances really well, will choose to be married for the most stable finances they can get.
so, I don't think it's any more moralistic than even crazy feminists can be.
Depending on each other's income, but even still someone can live semi traditionally and be a working woman as well. You might not have heard of feminists talking down on women who prefer a traditional lifestyle but I certainly have experienced it myself and have seen women be attacked for their outlook. If a man is more than capable of providing for his family and he and his woman would prefer she stay at home, that's not being unrealistic at all. I'm not even really addressing the working aspect of it but more so the way she chooses to treat her husband as I know in most cases two incomes are required. The point is for the feminists that this Take does apply. They don't have the right to criticize a woman's lifestyle choices simply because it doesn't line up with modern day thinking. That goes entirely against what they claim to stand for. This isn't for the people it doesn't apply to, this is for those crazies.
Interesting article, @Cookies_AndMilk, well said, well defined and Yes, 'Feminism has already reached its Goal... There is equality.'
Good luck, Great take. xx
Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Have an awesome night. :)
Thank you for the upvote, @Cookies_AndMilk :)) xx
So welcome, and enjoy your weekend.:)) xxoo
Aww thank you you're so sweet, and you too! <3
Why thank you and thank you so much, so are you.:)) xxoo
For the most part I agree, a lot of women are mad on the idea that men are sexist towards them but most of the time its the other way around. I have pointed that out but its not like that all the time, I see very little or no sexism around school. Women are regularly called sluts. Now this I have a problem with as yeah its literal meaning is as you said but if\when you call someone a bitch or bastard do you mean that literally? Or do you mean it as an insult like most people? Also not all women sleep around yet most have been called a slut, and for what...
Your coming across extremely hypocritical. First you say don't judge me for how I live my life if I want to be traditional then you spend four paragraphs calling so called sluts down to the dirt. Treat other how you want to be treated. If you want to be free to live your life in a traditional manner that is fine but don't judge others for their life style choices. Honestly I don't care if your a virgin or if you slept with 1000 people it's none of my business and it's not my problem. I feel you would benefit from this type of stance as well because to be frank you are coming across as preachy rude and self righteous. no one is perfect and unless you are perfect and without fault you should not throw stones so to speak. My point is stop being so judgmental because your far from perfect
Okay great point note taken. Understand you're only focusing on one small piece and are missing the message entirely. This is directed toward hypocritical feminists that claim women reserve the right to live how they want and then ridicule those for not following modern ideologies. That was the message, nothing more nothing less.
I think you would also have a lot less animosity from the female audience if you focused more on pro-tradition and a lot less on anti-"slut". You can praise one thing without insulting another
Understandable, for future Takes I'll do my best to avoid personal feelings being present in my writings. It's honestly becoming tiring having to explain myself over and over again to different viewers but I guess that is the result of something that's my fault and my fault only. I'm honestly considering disavowing this Take and being done with it. It's a tad overbearing.
Thing is one small point can completely discredit an author. i hope next time you can provide a more compelling argument for your opinion
That would be understandable. Good luck with your next take
Thank you, take care.
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Lol, but seriously what happened to all the women like you? You have no idea how much i praise you for recoginizing our hardships as men and what we have to put up with.
Lol thanks.
I'm glad you appreciated the take. I really don't understand how so many women can act as though men are scum. They wouldn't think it's fair for their gender to be generalized yet they can do it and in the most harshest of ways. I personally think men are so special and so important. I value all the men in my life, we're meant to complete each other not be against one another. I feel like the relationship between a man and a woman is so beautiful and extraordinary. It's a shame some other women don't
That person right now xD
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Wife material spotted.
Ok done with the terrible flirting, great take :)
Lol no worries. Thank you. :D
I agree that women can be and are as sexist as men. But feminism and gender equality is still a valid issue.
Feminism has created a disparity between genders, not equality. Historicly speaking for instacne we talk about women not having the right to vote, how often do we mention that men didn't either?
@hellionthesage Men did have the right to vote, women got the right to vote much, much later.
@Elena_the_Star No, men got the right to vote 70 years before women and the only reason that was the case was because they successfully argued that since they could and where drafted into public service ( in bucket brigades, restraining of criminals, and military service) that they where contributing to the running of the country and therefore should have the right to vote. Prior to that only the rich (inlcuding women) where allowed to vote.(in america there was a revolt in, I believe it was rhode Island since the rich land owners kept voting for laws that only benefited them). In enland it occured after WWI. So again, feminism has falsley represented the facts in such a way as to portray women as victims and men as oppressors. www.telegraph.co.uk/.../...bout-male-suffrage.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_manhood_suffrage
@hellionthesage That is the struggle between poor and rich. Nothing to do with 'men's struggle, I mean rich men were also men, right? And come on in the patriarchal society, all those rich women's votes must be influenced by their husbands or fathers, just giving legal system didn't mean they could vote for anybody. Rich men and women had the right to vote and poor men and women did not that is much based on feudal system and not on gender. Now lets talk about when men did get rights, now all men and some rich women voted right? By your own admission women got the vote 70 years later, which showed that while you can say poor men struggled for their rights, women as a whole had to do it a lot harder.
Hence, feminism at that time was extremely important because inequality was very rampant and even today social equality is not achieved completely so a bit of feminism is needed.
*giving legal rights
@Elena_the_Star Yes it was an issue of rich vs poor, thats why I pointed it out. You where the one who claimed that it was a male vs female issue. Why do you think men influenced those women? Do you think that women where simply that simple minded? Catherine the great, did she have to obey the men around her? Or Cleopatra? Or Hatshepsut? Or perhaps Catherine Demetachie? Or Queen Elizabeth (largley regarded as one of the greatest British monarches due ot her pushing enlish culture forward (she sponsored shakespear)) Or all the other female leaders of the world? You would have to presuppose that women where weak minded (not only sexist but also as I have pointed out but provably wrong) and to presuppose that men where evil and manipulative (also sexist and provably wrong). Where did you come to the conclusion that women had to fight harder for there right to vote? Men had to die for the right to vote women didn't have to do anything but exist? 70 years is one life time
@Elena_the_Star which is not a long time. Women where voting while men where dying in WWII yet no woman served in the military yet two thirds of all soldiers where forcibly drafted, nearly 30000 men died in a war they didn't want to be in just so they could write a name on a piece of pape while women didn't have to sacrifice anything for the same right. In fact most women fought against the right to vote specificly because they did not wish to be drafted (70% of English women surveyed stated this as there reason for opposing female suffrage). So no women never had to do much to get the right to vote, men had to literally fight for there right, women just sat around until it was given to them. I do agree that we do not have equaity in our society. For instance male victims of female on male rape are ignored: https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/
Women recieve a third of the sentencing men do: www.huffingtonpost.com/.../...r-gap_n_1874742.html
Male circumcision is legal while female circumcision is illegal
The duluth model of domestic violence created a system
@Elena_the_Star which states that males are the primary agressor for domestic violence (the fact that it was funded by feminist isn't a coincedence) despite all evidence showing that women are more likely to commit domestic violence then men: https://time.com/2921491/hope-solo-women-violence/
www.thenewamerican.com/.../19133-women-more-likely-to-commit-domestic-violence-studies-show
I think that yes there are sever inequalities, all of which benefit women and harm men.
Why are you only focusing on the West? Feminism is unarguably needed in many non-Western nations. What about the objectification of women or victim blaming?
@hellionthesage O wish this was true that men are more victims of gender discrimination than women but that sadly is not the case We lived in a patriarchy and though I still feel social equality has not been completely achieved even in the west, let's say western societies are egalitarian still 60% of domestic violence victims are still women and the rest are men. Both need to be addressed but still women are bigger victims they require a bit more attention. And this is about western societies.
Dont even get me started on third world countries.
@hellionthesage Do I really want to get into this debate? No. Is iy going to change our opinions? No. Then I don't want to get into a complicated and detailed debate because I don't have the time. And NO it's not because I can't defend my points but because if you will look into my previous opinions on other questions I literally spent 3 dwts arguing with this guy and nothing came out of it.
@Elena_the_Star Well patriarchy as you call it doesn't exist. If men where the ones forced to provide women shelter, forced to provide women with food and clothing and where also expected to die for them then one really can't argue that they where subjugating women when they where the ones who had all the responsibility/burden and who's lives mattered so little that they where expected to die in a womans sted. So you are from a logical standpoint wrong about our society being patriarchal. It was patriarchal in that men had to shoulder all the responsibility along with all of the risks but it was for the benefit of women not the men who toiled in fields and died on battlefields. Men would be punished for harming a woman, and they would be publicly humilated if it was discovered that there wife abused them. That is not a society that is male centric but rather gynocentric. This is historical fact.
@Elena_the_Star Your argument consists of essentially "nuh-uh" since you could provide no explanation why I was wrong (I even posted links to evidence of my argument) or provide even ancedotal evidence to contradict what I was saying let alone real evidence. You not liking what I am saying doesn't change the facts. If you can argue against me, fine do so, but what your doing is simply an attempt to ignore me because you would rather believe women are victims simply because its easier for you then to acknowledge the massive inequalities that men face adn all the privledge women have. Its not as you said that you can but don't want to, its that you can't argue against what I am saying otherwise you would have. Its why I presented data both historical and current statistics to back my statements and you presented only an opinion. The truth is inmmutable, your opinion will not change it no matter how much you would like it to.
"Why are you only focusing on the West? Feminism is unarguably needed in many non-Western nations. What about the objectification of women or victim blaming?" Sure its unarguably needed in non western countries, so long as you only look at things that affect women and ignore the ones that affect men. She was arguing for feminism in the west, but the problem of feminism both in the west and nonwest is that its a very narrow view of things. Of course its going to be viewed as sexist if we focus on, for instance, female prostitution and sex slavery in the middle east while ignoring the male child sex rings (Bacha bazi) which are now growing massivley at a rate equivalent to or more then the female. Boys who are forced into prostitution because according to both law and custom the eldest male is responsible for taking care of the family regardless of the women being fully capable of taking care of the family (there is no law barring women from work). Thus forcing many fatherless boys in to
prostitution in order to pay his families bills. Or when western feminist talk about how an entire village of women where experienceing sexism because they where forced to do manual labor jobs thanks to the actions of certain terror groups, only off handedly mentioning the reason was because every male from infants to the elderly where murdered in order to "attack" these women. Or how we talk about how they discourage females from being educated completely ignoring the fact that its because the male has to provided for the woman and his family so educating a man ensures he can get a good job and feed an entire family while educating a woman so she can get a good job only gives her pocket money since her husband has to provide everything she needs for her. In fact in many of these locations the man is expeceted to pay the taxes on his wifes income which if he cannot do he will be imprisoned. By law a woman can let her children starve to death and not be punished because its not her
responsibility to provide for them but rather her husbands (I am not saying this is common occurence only that technicly speaking its perfectly legal). So again of course women are being oppressed if you only look at the issues women are having (and ignore all of the privledge) while ignoring all that men go through while only focusing on there "privledge" the very privledge they are given to be able to follow throught with there extreme amount of responsibilities that are forced upon them. One sided approach to data will always result in a bias conlclusion.
@hellionthesage I don't have this much time to debate about stuff in such detail. First I used to but then arguing with a bunch of men on the internet is not going to change anything. Believe what you want.
@Elena_the_Star I am acknowledging facts, which I presented. You have yet to provide anything to refute what I have said. Thats belief, to hold something as true without evidence or despite it. If you argue a point be wiling to defend it with facts because nothing else will matter.
@hellionthesage read what I wrote again. I really don't have the time or a damn to give for this little discussion, I have been explaining the same facts to many guys over here and I am frankly tired of it. Don't reply to this. Thank you.
@Elena_the_Star Thats a cop out. Block me if you would like but do not expect me to except opinion over fact.
Good take for the feminists itself. I only think those people won't stop because of this take, their goal was not to fight for equality (the crazy girls), their goal is to fight for something.
https://youtu.be/rkMshhyIpiAComparison to a family guy episode:
I didn't find the episode but if you know it you will know what I mean. I find this topic to be real complex so it's easier to just have a cartoon clarify things
Great Take!
I am glad you wrote this take. Some people seriously think taking care of the people you love is ancient practice. Thank you for the read. ☺
Haha, I laughed as soon as I read "ancient practice" I'm glad you enjoyed it. :D
Best thing I have read in a very looooooong time, and I'll keep it for future reference. Amazing take. Congrats!
Aww thank you so much! :D
Another one bites the dust LOL :) :
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i'm just going to go ahead and follow this take, because it's amazing.
Thank you! :)
Oh my god... ohmygodohmygod...
Feminism: The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of POLITICAL, SOCIAL, and ECONOMIC equality to men. So honey, you are a feminist too liking it or not. The amount of stupidity and ignorance on this site makes me cringe.
Doesn't mean men are more privileged.
XD this take was unnecessary. It's all over the place hahaha!
Why name call? XD just fuck it. Humans humans HEEEEEEWWWWWWMMIIIIIIIINNNNNNZZZZZZZ.
Your take is as equally pointless as the thing you are attacking. Well done you!
You must live in a southern state huh? Sexism is something I have to deal with everyday, but im pursuing a career in science and am currently in college so that is probably why. Nothing wrong with being traditional if you so choose, but just an FYI being a bitch does NOT make you more desirable to men.
I get the point of this take, but it was poorly executed. Much of it sounded angry and derogatory towards women. I understand that that's not what was intended, but all the same, you'd get way less inflamed responses if you worded this better.
Thank you. I happy to see the backlash against feminism is picking up and more and more. It's not a new thing. It's not a radical thing. Feminism has actually been around long enough that it's insidiously embedded in taxpayer funded public education, liberal media and government sector jobs.
The phrases "feminist" has more of a connotation of "supremacy, hate and special rights" than equality nowadays. If you truly believe in equality between sexes use the phrase "egalitarian"