The Female Violence Privilege: Isn't it Time to Let It Go？

[martyfellow]

The Female Privilege for using violence is usuallly limited to open handed face slapping, but it still is in force for most of us. Just today on Gag I read an answer to a question about whether flirting amounts to 'cheating', and a girl answered in the affirmative and said (I don't have the exact quote, but this is close to what she said) 'if my boyfriend flirts with another female, he will get a slap and a breakup.'

Of course, no one responded with a word of criticism to this statement. We all know that if a guy had said the same thing, there would have been a wave of denunciation of him as a terrible sexist who should immediately be jailed, and so forth. NO guy on Gag would have made such a statement; but the girl just assumed that such an action would pass unchallenged, even in our world of 'equality of the sexes.'

In the 'real world', it's still true that a woman can lose her temper over such a small thing as her boyfriend flirting with another girl, and strike him. No bystander will intervene to stop her, or defend the guy. Her friends may try to calm her down, but won't criticize her in general. At work, people would look the other way; the girl would face no consequences in most cases.

The police will only intervene if the guy hits her back.

And in these times,girls work out! A slap will HURT! Females may still be the 'weaker sex', but not by much. A girl who wants to really hurt a guy usually CAN, physically; I've had the experience myself recently!

BUT...

NO guy could get away with even lightly slapping his girlfriend for flirting with another guy. Bystanders, both male and female, WOULD intervene, and the police would also likely be involved in the affair. The guy would be condemned by all his friends as well. If at work, he'd immediately be fired in nearly every case.

One of the clearest signs of the dishonesty in modern feminism is that by and large, the effies will either refuse to discuss their privilege for violence, or defend it.

Also，consisider that a lot of guys have accepted equality, and for them, that means they CAN hit back! If you want to reduce violence against women, you had better violence against men BY women. Me, I'm still of the old-fashioned school, I've never hit back for being slapped by a girl's open hand, but a lot of 'feminist' influenced men WILL hit back.

Isn't it time to start 'shaming' this privilege, in the interests of BOTH sexes???

[BeeNee]

People who cannot argue for whatever reason without physical violence have bigger issues than some feminist agenda. The fact that someone would even dare say so casually, that the other person, he or she, deserved to be hit for doing or saying something still shocks me. I will always continue to have a problem with those that think fairness should equate to both sexes being able to hit each other. That's not fair, that's incredibly stupid and not the way we as a society should want to live. I've had friends on both sides of the fence, both men and women, who were abused and its not funny, or cute, or a laughing matter. Do unto others as you'd have them do to you. Do we really need to keep saying violence is not the answer in 2015? That's incredibly sad.

[martyfellow]

Yes, this girl obviously assumed no one would dare object to her statement, and she was right, actually, no one made any sort of negative comment.

[juliaanita]

such a good response. I wanted to say the same, but you put it better than I could. thanks.

[Prof_Don]

The main issue is that some men don't want to report a woman assaulting him. He either feels like the accusation won't be taken seriously by law enforcement, or he feels like 'less of a man ' by "letting someone not as strong as he is punk him instead of retaliating"

[martyfellow]

Yes, there's that as well... but no one observing him get hit would intervene in the vast maority of cases..

[Prof_Don]

That's exactly the catch 22. Most bystanders would think "he can defend himself because he is stronger than her".

It's rather strange to be bigger than stronger than a woman... but not being legally able to use this advantage, right?

[udolipixie]

"NO guy on Gag would have made such a statement"
I highly doubt this as I find many guys on GAG have made such statements and similar statements about violence towards gals.

"NO guy could get away with even lightly slapping his girlfriend for flirting with another guy. Bystanders, both male and female, WOULD intervene, and the police would also likely be involved in the affair. "
I've seen a guy punch his girlfriend for flirting with a guy. No one intervened so it seems your statement is false. In my opinion it is not suited not to make such extreme claims as it only takes one example to fault you.

"Also，consisider that a lot of guys have accepted equality, and for them, that means they CAN hit back!"
This is a bit off to me as I find very very few guys have accepted equality. The only guys I find accepting equality tend to mean in regards of hitting gals back, gals approaching guys, and gals splitting the bills. In other matters equality is forgone in my observations. So to me a more suited wording would be 'consider that a lot of guys have accepted equality in violence so they can hit back'.

Isn't it time to start 'shaming' this privilege, in the interests of BOTH sexes?
Not in my opinion. I find most people, particularly males, aren't shaming the seeming male violence privilege of violence towards gals. I find most guys deny that most violence done to gals is by guys instead they use faulty debunked studies to claim the violence was reciprocal (studies where self defense becoming violence) or that gals are more violent (studies where not loving your partner is violence). I'm not going to shame any female violence until I see guys acknowledging male violence rather than downplaying it, excusing it, or trying to frame it as both genders do it equally (most violence done to males is by males not gals).

[martyfellow]

Udopixie is a super fembot who only posts to say whatever a guy says is false. If I said the moon orbited the Earth, she'd say it orbited Mars.

[martyfellow]

Here you see Fembot dishonesty, as I pointed out in the Take. Either they won't talk about the Female violence privilege, or they defend it.

Here she's indirectly defending it by denying it exists.. an obvious lie And she doesn't take a position on it, refusing to talk about it..

[udolipixie]

"Udopixie is a super fembot who only posts to say whatever a guy says is false. If I said the moon orbited the Earth, she'd say it orbited Mars."
I post whenever I find anyone, male of female, posting bs and claiming it to be factual or valid.

"Here she's indirectly defending it by denying it exists"
Show me where I stated it doesn't exist. I addressed your faulty extremist claims that no guy would make a similar statement and that no guy could get away with violence towards hist partner. Then I stated I'm not going to shame gals until I see guys acknowledging their own violence as I'm the type who doesn't do actions unless there is a benefit for myself. So again show me where I stated it doesn't exist.

[udolipixie]

"defending it by denying it exists... an obvious lie... And she doesn't take a position on it, refusing to talk about it.."
The only thing that is seemingly obvious is your faulty reasoning. If I don't take a position on the matter then how am I denying it exists as you claimed? I I didn't even talk about it then how am I denying it exists as you claimed?

LMFAO @ you. I think I'm done here. You can keep posting I won't be responding.

[martyfellow]

You don't have anything to say, just want to change the subject, or deny that this problem exists.

[NotTheRegularNiceGuy]

Agreed. Either society as a whole starts shaming violence for small/non-criminal things or we accept violence on both sexes.
I haven't hit a woman yet, but only because no woman has ever dared to beat me. I will most certainly hit back and I'll look into the eyes of the judge who thinks I didn't have the right to defend myself.

[martyfellow]

Currently, you really don't have that right, in the view of our culture, overall...

[NotTheRegularNiceGuy]

All the more a reason to stand up for it, no matter what.

[Berethor]

Well, in a case when the guy is deserving it, it's kinda like an Armor-Piercing Slap. :)

tvtropes.org/.../ArmorPiercingSlap

[martyfellow]

You miss the point, why should women be allowed to hit someone because 'they deserve it?' And not men, when the women 'deserve it.'

Beep Beep, male feminist alert!! BEEP BEEP

[Berethor]

It isn't about feminist, sluts deserve an good old pimp slap from time to time as well. ;)

www.tshirtvortex.net/.../keepyepimphandstrong.jpg

[Entity]

"The police will only intervene if the guy hits her back."

This is the one where I'm not sure. I can deal with the rest and whatnot but this you'll need to back to show that it is an acceptable norm for, in public, in front of police officers, they do not intervene in domestic cases.

This is a statement of legal value versus sociological so it's a totally different vein.

[martyfellow]

Well, if the girl does this right in front of the police, MAYBE, but no one is going to call them to report itlll But they would if a guy did the same thing, speaking generally./

[Gommers]

I'm okay with being slapped by my lady with an open hand, but only an open hand and only my lady. She's only 100lbs and couldn't do any damage even if she tried and would feel horrible if she did.

Another woman hits me in any way, well I believe in equality so you pick a fight, you get a fight even if there's no way you can win it.

[ScruffynateAK]

ill just leave this here
www.saveservices.org/.../

[ScruffynateAK]

It's interesting that Teddy Roosevelt wanted to bring back the whipling post for male-female spousal abuse, but violence the other way round was handled in community, generally by humiliating the man.
We've never had a society in which it was acceptable to harm women, but in recent decades it's become more and more acceptable for women to harm men.

[KENKONG]

Did you steal that picture from mines?

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1828476-anyone-think-this-is-a-recipe-for-disaster

[martyfellow]

No, just got it from Clip Art!

[BamBamFox]

No one should hit anyone, people only lash out when they have lost control of an argument, violence is never the answer and if any man is subjected to violence he should be taken seriously but so many men refuse to report any type of violence because he feels he will not be taken seriously or look weak in some way, everyone should keep hands to themselves.

[martyfellow]

Women still have social approval on the whole for this behavior, that's the problem, not that men are afraid of looking weak, although that IS another problem!!!

[ArtDent]

I absolutely agree and I think the younger generation of women are coming around.

[martyfellow]

Yes, because they know a lot of guys are also feminist influenced, and will hit back!

[Berethor]

@martyfellow if you want to make an point about female violence, you better use examples of abuse on an innocent man, and not an pervert man who gets what he deserve, I have an very little pity for boyfriend flirts with another female. :)

tvtropes.org/.../DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale

[martyfellow]

So it would be ok for a guy to slap a igirl who flirts with another guy?

[Berethor]

If the guy us not okey with that, then maybe it's time to use his pimp hand. :D

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[ArtDent]

I just want to point out that I don't approve of violence

[buttheadkakakak]

Personally I think if everyone just stooped hitting each other this wouldn't happen and the discussion would be over

[Stacyzee]

Great take :) I agree with this 100%

[Tarvold]

Good take.

Let me get some popcorn.

[James19]

I am with you..