I Give Up Chasing Women

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I'm done with women. Every girl has a list of requirements she wants her guy to have but she never makes it a requirement to get to know him. I know what I want out of a relationship and what I can offer, however it seems like females would rather assume things about me and never try to get to know me. I go out of my way to be a nice person to others yet some ho with a mile of dudes in her inbox is gonna label me a fuckboy for responding to her posts about casual sex? I'm a rapist simply because I'm interested in sex? I can't commit because I'm interested in casual sex since I don't have any prospective females in my life? I don't date but I should call my hoes that I don't have to take care of my physical needs that are being ignored? I'm not a real man because I have a different opinion than someone elses unrealistic expectations of me? I can't have an opinion because I have a penis?

Sex is marketed to me directly because I am a male but with females attitudes, I'm starting to go crazy and think that it doesn't exist. I don't chase or show interest in females anymore because they are so vindictive that they will verbally assault a male trying to compliment or show interest. To me, it feels as if all women are fake and I'm living in some shitty simulation that is designed to make men like me give up and disregard women entirely. I am being lied to by our society: Makeup, double standards for men, marriage = happiness, success is a relationship, singles have something wrong with them, women are sex objects, women enjoy sex as much as men do, and even the myth of male power.

I have been single during the best years of my life, my sexual prime, over 8 years. I have experienced nothing but being led on and disappointment in my interactions with women. At this point I don't even know how to respond properly to a female that shows interest as I'm more inclined to go fuck themselves to save myself more disappointment. Women have damaged me mentally by ignoring me. I feel like social media has ruined any chance I have at having a "normal" relationship since I am 5'6" and women don't even pay attention to men under 6'. They don't ever respond either unless they feel like they are being personally attacked or they get an opportunity to cuss a man out.

So I'm done. I'm broken. I don't see the point chasing someone who is unreachable. She doesn't care. She doesn't listen. She isn't soft or warm, or sweet. She doesn't have any of those traits in her personality that I once considered attractive. She isn't real.

[Browneye57]

Naw, not broken, just done chasing. If you're worth your salt as a man they will chase you. You are the prize. Just go about your business, pursue your life mission, and be awesome. Hit the gym, hard. Make lots of money. You'll have the best chicks available chasing you.
It sure feels different. They know they have to work it to keep your interest. The less interested in them the harder they pursue.
Try it. You'll like it. :)

[JudgmentDay]

If you've given up then it's time to learn and realize the truth and reality of it all. There is no "love" just like "There is no spoon" just like the Matrix, it's just delusions and desires generated by the hormones and chemicals that reacting within our bodies and our brains. Thus you feel attracted to those that you see are attractive to you as they make you feel good when you look at them. But that's not going to last forever anyway. You see this whole thing with love, sex, relationships, etc. it's just there as opportunities for others to make money off of it and profit off of it. That's why they always market all that sexual shit, because it's obvious that sex sells.

Two, the hormones that creates the desire is there to just try and get use to procreate, but if it wasn't for the fact that everyone and everything would eventually die in the first place, then there would be not need for these desires, delusions and illusions.

Just think deeply about it, without all those hormones and chemicals then all that love, dating, and sex are not realistically possible and thus humans would have become long extinct by now. Eventually those desires, feelings people had for each other can fade away, although not every single case but it does happen. And maybe it's a factor, even if not a big factor as to why people break up and divorce because the way they had felt about each other has changed because of how their hormones are reacting then isn't how it is reacting later.

I think you'll learn to live with it somehow and accept that you can endure being single indefinitely. However if you really want to be a parent some day then I think it's still worth the effort and miseries to continue trying otherwise, it's best to just remain single indefinitely and save yourself any additional frustrations and unwanted drama.

You do realize that no relationships are ever guaranteed to last, or even last forever, right?

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Agreed.

[lemarah]

First of all, referring to a woman as a Hoe isn't going to help. I'm having a hard time following your rant, but this is what I got.
There's nothing wrong with casual sex, as long as it's understood by both parties that that is what it is. Trying to go searching for casual sex, by catcalling or by being a creep is where the problem comes in. You have to talk to someone first, as a person. And you can't expect anything to come from it. The woman will never owe someone sex or a date just because you talked to them or were nice to them. That's just being a decent human.
There are numerous reasons why a woman might not be interested in you, just as there are numerous reasons you may not be interested in them, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you.
You can't "blame all women" for your lack of success on the dating scene, claiming they damaged you. That part sounded like something Elliot Rodger, the Santa Barbara killer said. You could look him up on youtube.
Finally, I want to say, on a personal level I'm sorry you haven't found the warmth and kindness you desire.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

If you had read what I wrote you'd understand that I was responding to something some female had turned into a meme: pics.me.me/...oes-me-messages-a-search-9735370.png

Judging by your response I think you speed read the post and then just reacted on the casual sex thing. If you reread that part you'd understand that I was saying that as a single man without any female friends, exes, kids, or current relationships that my interests in casual sex has some females assuming that I cannot commit to a relationship. That goes against my sexual requirements to maintain normal health as a man.

Please reread and point out where I stated that I was owed sex because I didn't say that.

I am more than familiar with Elliot Rodger's case, comparing my opinion to his is stupid and shows you didn't read what I wrote.

Fuck me for trying to share how I feel. Fuck me for being 8 years single and trying to fix the problem only to be ignored and disregarded by women with little value other than sex.

[This_is_my_username]

Well what do ya want? Everyone has requirments. So do men. Maybe ya haven't found the right one. Plus if we were all yes sir. Yes sir. No expectations or requirements. Men would think we're too easy! So I guess it's pointless. Because you'd still complain!

At this point. Y'all do you guys. Don't you lower your standards and settle for less in life. Life is too damn short to be a cynical son of a gun. =)

[Wwwyzzerdd]

The women I've met don't seem to understand that a relationship is partnership. If she acted like that I would suspect something was wrong with how I was treating her and she was appeasing me out of fear. Not that she was easy, rather that she had ulterior motives or was too afraid to directly deal with a relationship issue.

At this point women have made them self unattainable and I'm having a hard time being attracted to physical looks. Or even being turned on. I don't have any women in my life, even family, so I'm becoming more and more disconnected from females entirely. It's gotten to the point where I've had a difficult time mentally being able to enjoy porn, which is like my favorite thing. So yeah women disconnecting from my life outside of service animals working minimum wage at whatever store I shop at, I pretty much don't interact with the fairer species. It's totally not turning me into a narcissistic serial killer at all.

[Swiss_Tengu]

I still can't see how being easy is something to shame. Some people like sex, so what?
(cheating and misleading people is though)

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@Swiss_Tengu Friendzoning certain men while fucking badboys.

[Swiss_Tengu]

That's not really an answer.

[CasaNorba]

amen brother, kick ass article!

to put it in short I'm starting to feel like we might be twin brothers that got separated at birth. lol jokes aside but yes I feel the same way and that is why today I choose escorts over real girlfriends instead. I'm pretty sure this is the main reason why prostitution is illegal in the first place, because obviously we are not the only men who feel this way and they dont want us to have the easy way.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I feel the need to clarify that men like us are driven to prostitution when needs aren't met, not due to inability. Rather, environment and the female spectrum within it can socially isolate a single male in his sexual partners while his physical needs go continually ignored. When men's only option is to seek a sex worker because of his environment then that says a lot about the society he is living in. In my experience love isn't free, men have to pay in some way shape or form.

[nevermoregirl7]

Why hate because women managed to find something that worked? Because not too many men benefit from it? Or in technicality, men do benefit from it considering they paid for a service. Prostitution is as old as farming. It has gone through many different volumes of acceptance. In the middle ages, brothels were a huge thing for not only soldiers (who were married), but also men of high court. In the 1700's, noblemen didn't mind buying a woman and taking her to parties when the wife wasn't up for it. In America today, we are highly against prostitution really because we formed monogamous beliefs, but now we are slowly going back to poly lifestyles. Though, I doubt legal prostitution would be nationwide for another 100 years.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@nevermoregirl7 Double standards for men, free reign for women.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

If a man engages in prostitution, he devalues himself. If a woman becomes a sex worker, she is empowered.

[CasaNorba]

@Wwwyzzerdd through prostitution women aren't so empowered because once you fuck her and give her what she wants she will leave and never bug you again. women who aren't sex workers in the other hand feel very entitled once they let you in between their legs. from there on she will call you nonstop, gossip about you, start quarrel at any given moment, etc. this is why love is never free. a women will never show you love unless she knows you're gonna provide for her in the long run one way or another, its like they all got gold digger encrypted in their genes

[CasaNorba]

@nevermoregirl7 actually americans are against prostitution because they know that through prostitution a man can get as much good sex as he wants whenever he wants without jumping through any fire hoops. this means that there will be no hopes for relationships, marriage, dating, divorce courts, etc.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Which in turn means that a very large sector of the economy never gets to profit from his failed relationships.

[nevermoregirl7]

@CasaNorba Only if the man pays enough for whatever prostitute. Just like any other service. And to both men, there are male sex workers. There are male gogo dancers. There are male strippers. The sex working biz, while heavily advertised as female, does in fact, have males. Honestly, I am not sure what position you are trying to represent. It just sounds like y'all are pouting over sex work. Personally, I don't care. I have nude model friends. If they like being in odd positions naked and have a bald dude take pictures, completely fine with me. It makes them happy, gives them income, and obviously empowers them. Don't be a hater because you don't have the same.

[CasaNorba]

@nevermoregirl7 dude wtf are you talking about? How the hell am I able hater?

Also you do realize that nudity is not sex right so again I'm confused, I still don't have a clue what your talking about

[nevermoregirl7]

Dude, I am confused too. But the way you and this other guy keep coming off sounds like y'all are haters. And yeah, I know nude modeling does not mean sex. But to some people it does go close to sexual services. I also know strippers too. And Dominatrixes. Only thing I don't officially know in the sex biz is a whore. I also know a porn star, but he said it wasn't worth it.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@nevermoregirl7 Are you honestly trying to make the point that there are equal amounts of men in the sex trade as women? Cause that's not the case, women dominate their field.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@nevermoregirl7 Congradulations, you lived in LA just like the rest of us. Here's your gold star.

[CasaNorba]

@nevermoregirl7 you shouldn't be confused since you were the one who brought the argument to this direction. all I did was explain my reasons why I believe prostitution is illegal and then you brought up the sex industry, glamour modeling, dominatrixes and beyond. it seems like you no longer have ammunition in this argument

@Wwwyzzerdd lmao talk about changing the subject I think she really does deserve a gold star!

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Exactly.

[Patmedley26]

and here i thought i was the only one who felt like this. I've made the decision to stop worrying about women and just worry about making myself a better person. I don't know if i'll ever get one or not but either way i'm just gonna focus on me.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I figured I wasn't the only one, the only reason I wrote this is because I feel like men don't complain enough about how society treats us. Disposable wallets with dicks.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Self investment can only better your lifestyle and you as a person.

[Patmedley26]

Yeah but it's better than trying to chase something that just doesn't want to be caught so..

[Wwwyzzerdd]

True

[John_Doesnt]

You've done the smart thing, because apparently we live in a "rape culture". Your decision has saved you from a life-time in court.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Seriously dodged a bullet there.

[TonnyStryder]

Lol, you still don't get it, you are going to run yourself crazy listening to what women say, just observe what they react to, that girl telling you she only dates 6 feet men probably has some short ass boyfriend, you know why, he never listened to her but she definitely reacted to his personality. Women will always talk and overreact but rarely mean what they say and your ability to ignore most of that nonsense will get you very far.

[camera1015]

Might be reasonable to give up chasing, but don't give up hope. Having a "chasing" mentality tends to make you feel (and appear) less confident, which results in most women feeling less attracted. Also makes you more likely to be nervous and awkward when you approach a woman. If you expect rejection, that will come out in your interactions, and you'll get what you expect. So take a break to improve your self-confidence. Ultimately, confidence is much more important in how you're perceived than traits like height. And the good news is that confidence is something you can change about yourself (unlike height)! I am 5'6" and have been with multiple guys who were my height or shorter. Just don't bog yourself down with a victim mentality.

[MarkRet]

It sounds like you have an all-around negative attitude, which can turn people off. There are all kinds of women out there. Some of them are shallow skanks and gold diggers, but others might be shy or have social issues, and would love to have someone special. Some of them have messed up heads, too!

I never even had a girlfriend until I was around 25, and at the time I wasn't even TRYING to get a girlfriend. I was just living life, doing my own thing, It just happened.

[Unit1]

Yeah. The gold diggers are the worst I think. All I can hope is that those women with their 50 shades of grey expectations will remain single so long until they become a crazed, old cat lady. Meow meow.

[Unit1]

I mean we can take game servers for analogy: You're turning on the filter and try to find the perfect game server in your proximity for least ping plus having all of your favorite mods installed on it. This list of requirements becomes so high, that there are no matches.
Same with the high standards and finding dates.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

As a single white male veteran with a steady income, car, renting a house alone, 30, no exes, no kids... I find that my attitude has very little impact on turning women off since I don't carry myself as anything other than a mild mannered nice guy. I go out of my way to be nice. What I wrote previous is something I NEVER discuss in real life.

In my experience, all women are looking for what they can get out of a relationship before entering into it. They profile men and often pick based of status or income. They don't require a guy to be special or even nice, as long as he looks good they will give it up just to fuck a 10. I'm more like a 6 so that game doesn't work for me. In my experience it is safer to just assume they have issues than to give benefit of the doubt.

I'm 30. I had a girlfriend for 1 month when I was 22. I have been laid a total of 8 times with a total of 4 girls in the last decade. I guarantee you have not gone as long as I have single or incel.

[Amorphous]

I'm 30 and still a virgin. Have had no success with women. Either I got played and dropped for "better" options.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@Amorphous I don't think @markret understands that his logic sets guys like us up for failure. Plenty of fish in the sea but I'm looking for a dolphin. Also those other "people" do a shitty job of being receptive when presented with someone who wants the same thing.

[Unit1]

Not all women are shallow, backstabbing, hypergamous harpies or highly entitled.

So you are essentially saying, that women broke you by doing nothing to you. How is that supposed to make sense? Do you need maintenance?

I mean go ahead and don't chase women. Nothing wrong with that decision. You live your life and we live ours.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

So you're a chick?

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Sorry, so used to seeing undercover femanons that my paranoia took over

[lawrence504]

dont give up yet, When i was younger, there were 6 of my bestfriends thought that i would be the first to get married, fast forward to today, next month the 2nd last of the group will be getting married, I will be the last, this shows that anything is possible...

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I don't have female friends

[redridinghood]

vice versa mate -.- men are totally the same you guys have your very own list of REQUIREMENT !! .. expect women to be perfect -.-

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I don't think you are very good at listening.

[Soph104]

sounds like you are looking in the wrong places for women/chasing after the wrong women. I think you should focus on yourself, it doesn't really sound like you have anything positive to say about women so why would one want to be with you? Honestly reading that whole the, your opinions on women.. it was a complete turn off, maybe the problem isn't with women, the problem is you, or maybe not I don't know. I think you just need to take some time to reflect.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I didn't write this to impress anyone. I didn't write this to attract anyone. I'm expressing my opinion on how the women in my life have not provided positive experiences. How their behavior has in effect caused me to go my own way.

Please assume my life more. If you only knew what kinds of examples the women in my life have set for the rest of you maybe you wouldn't be so quick to assume and judge.

[MlleCake]

Wow, can I tell you just how terribly disappointed I feel that you're removing your sunny self from the dating pool? /s

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Attitude like that is exactly why I give up.

[CasaNorba]

@MilleCake I wonder what you find so disappointing because nobody is entitled to live up to your expectations

[MlleCake]

@CasaNorba the /s at the end of my statement indicates it was sarcasm.

[CasaNorba]

Sarcasm or not I'm pretty sure it met something to you if you took the time to comment on this whole article

[I-am-a-nobody]

You're obviously looking in the wrong places.
I married in my thirties. I didn't give up.
If you want to that's your prerogative.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I have literally traveled the world, virtually every state... Where else am I supposed to look? How long should I wait? I am 30 and my longest relationship was a month long when I was 22, other than that I haven't been laid or had a girl friend or even friends with benefits. C'mon. Really. Not giving up at this point would be wasting my time even more.

[LetsSucceed]

Dating is a numbers game. Its like a car dealership they might sell 1 car ever 100 customers.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I have been using the internet longer than most people, at this point with that logic online dating should have landed me at least some dates. I have nothing to show but wasted time.

[LetsSucceed]

online dating is for women, go out and talk to girls instead.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Cope out answer.

[camera1015]

@Wwwyzzerdd Online dating can work, but it's much more likely that you'll run into the kinds of behaviors you described in your original post: long list of requirements, people behaving shallowly and judging based on appearance, women treating you as disposable. Because even average women get lots of attention in online dating, and they won't take the time to get to know you unless you look impressive at the first glance. Join a female-dominated class or group (e. g. yoga) to get to know women better in a non-romantic context, and maybe something will happen.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@camera1015 Online dating doesn't work for people like me who try for years unsuccessfully and then give up after being ignored.

[camera1015]

@Wwwyzzerdd I agree with you that online dating sometimes doesn't work, and it might not work for everyone. I wasn't trying to say that online dating is great... if you read my comment, I kinda said the opposite. So try something different. As I suggested in my previous comment: "Join a female-dominated class or group (e. g. yoga)"

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@camera1015 Nah, I wasn't going to get laid either way so why waste my time?

[camera1015]

@Wwwyzzerdd You already said that you spent years trying online dating. So if you were going to "waste" your time on that, why not "waste" it on something that's slightly more likely to be successful? And if you do something like a class, you might find there are peripheral bonuses like getting more fit or learning a new skill

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@camera1015 Learn a new useless skill instead of applying myself at the ones I already know and am talented at. Make meaningless connections with strangers who will leave me even more lonely. Sit at home alone because she can't appreciate my value enough to give me a chance.

Naw, I've wasted enough of my time putting myself out there for ungrateful people, I can save money by being miserable at home.

[camera1015]

@Wwwyzzerdd In the end, it's your life. I think you that if being alone makes you miserable, you should keep trying. But you can make your own decisions.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@camera1015 Women are a constant disappointment. I gave up years ago putting in effort for people that take me for granted.

[nevermoregirl7]

Albert Ellis would have a field day with you.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Lol probably a better conversationalist than you

[nevermoregirl7]

I bet you had to google him

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I took psych 101 too. Lol trying to sound smart

[nevermoregirl7]

Mofo, I live it

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Well congratulations for you then. by the way thanks for trying to make me feel like shit with your petty comments about my mental health when I wrote this to express my opinion.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I see you haven't written any mytakes yet so I can't reciprocate in kind and insult your mental health on your posts as you have tried to do to mine. Scratching my head why I don't just block you.

[Blueeyes2016]

Agreed.. they're so selective anymore

[boochie0]

what if they chase you?

[Wwwyzzerdd]

They don't.

[xxmamichulaxx]

Where are you from? A western country?

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Why does location matter

[cdbossguy]

Mate there's no point being deep etc. I go to a dance class. Nearly all the women there will all have guys they hang out with alone or text deeply. Whether they are single or have bf's, they all do that for other guys.

I don't bother with any of that. I just am loud and after dance performances when everyone is socializing, basically I have about 7-9 of them pose round me for photos. It's crazy hot how slutty they behave round me, pouting, posing.

And they basically click like on my fb photos which I label "Likeaboss". It's insane how slutty they'll pose and in their short shorts etc. See my questions as an example.

I'd fuck them tbh and shame some of them went abroad, I couldn't care less about their personality or giving them deep conversations. They pose around me in groups and give me lots of fap material and I get to touch them a lot more

[xxmamichulaxx]

Just out of curiosity, I've noticed a lot of men in the US seem to have these issues with some women, where as some of my friends from south america and asia have made it known the women over there behave much differently. Bad apples are everywhere though, location doesn't change that.

[cdbossguy]

Check out my questions tho, i was in asia and the girls are Asian or from the uk and Europe

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I found Asian women to be much more attractive and attracted to me. Getting laid while traveling abroad was not a problem. Asian countries are like adult playgrounds for men.

[cdbossguy]

I am Asian and the girls are also Asian in my country. One girl (of the two in my questions) was an Asian from the uk