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I agree with this. There was this guy before who told me "why are you not interested in me? Didn't you know that I dated almost every girl here? Are you a lesbo?" I was like "Are you from the planet of Apes? Why can't you understand that I'm not interested because I'm not interested?"
The funny thing that I agree with this, which everyone is okay with. "If somebody isn't interested, it doesn't mean that anything is wrong with you- you are just not her type" is something I will agree with to 100 % but as soon as I mention how I tend to be attracted to Asian women or to women who are short, I will immediately get downvoted by non-Asian or tall women, or even just people who think it's disrespectful. Yet these same people would not have any problem with this message right here.
Umm okay... so what was your decision that he should have respected but did not? He made a move, you rejected. That's how it works. Should he have read your mind that you didn't want him to ask for your number, so that you wouldn't have to reject him? Please. Grow up. This isn't about respecting your decisions, it's about you wanting to be coddled away from anything difficult in life. Good luck with that.
Pick Up Artists can be pushy because they've learned that persistence works. Sometimes you just have to be firm. Don't worry that you will hurt the guy's feelings, they have been through it before. Many, many times. The guys with hurt feelings are the guys who won't ask you out because they've just given up.
Honestly I would prefer if a girl was direct and turned me down aggressively. Being passive and indecisive is just a massive turn off, so if you don't like just say it. It doesn't even have to be rude it can just be like
"Ey you wanna go out for a drink or 2?"
"Not a chance buddy"
"... you could at least stop to think about it"
"No need, i know what i want and you just aren't my type It wouldn't work"
Something along that line.
2 reasons that doesn't happen 1. women are indirect by nature don't believe me? ask her where she wants to eat. You're supposed to figure it out. 2. Women while not being interested don't want you to quit altogether (read her post again he did this at the wrong time on another day at another time she might have been feeling him just not at that moment... please go away) They want you to stay in the game in the event the change thier mind or just want an ego stroke.
@WillyD forgive me if i don't think that women aren't that selfish on average.
Malik00 nothing to forgive man i take no offense. And it hasn't got anything to do with being selfish. They're playing their role and they expect you to play yours. Theirs isn't peaches and cream either. Their are guys they want to approach them that don't and they can't do the approaching so they're relegated to waiting for something that may never come either. I'm not making this stuff up Malik this game is as old as time.
@WillyD Uh yeah no I call bullshit on that. If they expect me to do all the legwork in the relationship and bend over backwards for the honor of being in their presence, then it wasn't gonna work out in the first place.
They don't expect you to do all the legwork just the initiating and at times they may test you to see if you really have interest. and you're right this isn't set in stone. For every rule there's an exception. This is why i tell any woman that will listen if you see a guy that you think is a quality guy swallow your pride and approach him. I think they're afraid that it sets the tone for the relationship. That if they initiate they'll be leading the whole time. How can he be man if he's too afraid to even talk to me. Simple fact is guys take rejection after rejection it never feels good but you build up a callous on your pride after a while but guys have just as much to lose choosing the wrong woman as a woman does choosing the wrong man. It doesn't give a guy a whole lot of incentive to approach a woman.
Oh please, women are just as bad, if not worse, at taking rejection. Making this a gender issue just shows how petty you are.
This is why MGTOW exists! I don’t know who these persistent losers are but life is beautiful when you invest in yourself. Loving yourself is the best relationship you could ever be in. Women will fallow when you take care of yourself.
Parents need to teach this to their kids, (especially boys when they start noticing girls) at an early age. By the time they get on a computer, or GAG, it's like pissing in the wind if you try and explain this to a man.
"He isn't creepy. He is actually kind of cute."
Yeah, you'd be shocked at how many "cute" guys end up being rapists or worse.
Agree!!! Those cuties are often fuckboys
I like this take.
We all have to learn to take a "no, thank you" gracefully.
Honestly i prefer the straightforward approach. If you're not interested fine, but the least you can do is be direct about it.
@Malik00 Agreed. It's so much easier when you hear the 'No not interested' or 'get lost'. It really does hurt, for all of about five minutes (or five seconds) and then we move on. I feel like girls underestimate a man's ability to move on and thus don't give us that open rejection, thus 'leaving the window open', thus it gets the man hopeful and then BAM.
Which is ten times worse than it has to be and sometimes it leads to that stalking incident, etc. Just say no the first time.
Girls don't know what they want - it's all just a feeling. If you don't like a guy just tell him to fuck off. You don't have to be nice, just be clear.
It’s dangerous to tell a guy to fuck off... they can’t take no for an answer and they can become violently angry. We never know which ones are the crazy ones
@ktdec - bullshit. You're back to the 'I have no options' MO that women are famous for. Be assertive, quit worrying about everybody's reactions - THEY get to choose - you don't get to choose for them. State your position and let the chips fall where they may.
The problem is your pussy-footing around and not being clear is why you get the guy to keep pursuing, instead of being clear. Guys don't clue into innuendo nearly like women think they do - that is a woman's realm. If you want a guy to understand something you have to be direct and crystal clear. Otherwise he just doesn't get it. It's the dichotomy of the sexes.
I like it. Sadly it's how guys take the rejection, some take it on the chin and accept others can get violent. So girls if you you do reject them try do it in a public area with plenty of people around !!!
I do believe you have just spoken on behalf of the majority of women.
Well done and thank you.
Wait, is one of your turn ons is men over 60, and you're 18😱? That is surprising, also why a wheelchair?
yeah, rejection is hard and it hurts but in the end it will be okay. Just means God has someone else who's more suited for you in store.
So you're telling us men not to hit on women? A simple "I'm not interested" vocalization should do the trick.
Hints are highschool shit just open your mouth and verbalize
Unfortunately many males can’t take no for an answer or become violent/aggressive if women reject them. It becomes a safety issue for us
@ktdec that is true unfortunately. But the VAST majority of guys aren’t like that.
@ktdec I missed the part in your take where he hit you over the head a dragged you back to his cave. The worst thing he did was grab your hand. which i acknowledge ( and a majority of the guys on this post agree) was crossing the line. But that just goes to show the cases of a physcially over aggressive guy is rare.
Here's an option to you. you said you recognized before he ever came over and talked to you that he was interested. you could have been proactive about it. you could have walked over and pepper sprayed him before he ever approached you and ran away. Out of line? What are you talking about? You could simply explain to the cops what you have to deal with every day as a woman. I'm sure they'd understand.
We haven't even addressed the fact... did you enjoy the fact that he hit on you? I betting you did you said he was kind of attractive. But that was enough. You wanted the guy to pay his homage to your beauty then go away. We get it... all to well.
True, I see so much macho crap on here from controlling guys like we were still in early 1900s. They expect girls to respond to that and want to go out. lol
Such guys have girls following them and him following girls miss, just for your record... by the way what's wrong with a macho man, better then a sissy right...
Also girls from 1900's are natural unlike today plastic dolls, same copy everywhere😏
@TonyMetal86 wow another tragic boy who still thinks girls like sweaty and large men. Oh and also calls most girls fake but no... they aren't they're humans too fuckin' dumbarse.
P. S all women are different. The ones who chase are under 20...
So, you showed some agency, gave a clear
no , and the guy stopped? Good for you, you didn't expect a complete stranger to read your mind.
We have to respect women's decisions, but they don't have to respect ours. They don't owe us anything, but we have a long list of expectations to meet. That's fair
Very good take - I hope a lot of the younger guys take notice and read it all.