I don't know what to say. GaG is weird. And I say that not because of your viewpoint, but the number of folks who are giving you the thumbs up. A year ago, you would have been run out of this forum.
Well anyway, I totally disagree with you.
And I have already explained why in some great detail.
This assumes that the women actually still bother to hang out with you and genuinely want to be your friend in the first place. Not "oh, you're like a brother" or "Oh, I just want to be friends" and then ghost / never bother with / ignore / act nasty to the guy.
and for 3) Getting to understand how women think... I have women family members. I have a few "surfacy" women friends. I still have no insight into how to ask out a woman (or a SPECIFIC woman) though I may understand partly how THESE women think. But even then, they could be lying, hiding stuff, or don't understand that situation. So gaining insight into them is useless for dating someone else. I've asked out women for years. This makes it no easier to ask out a woman. I'm still as bad at it (probably worse at it) than I was in high school and college, and I'm probably worse at talking to them.
I can read theory, but that's not implimentation, and there are all kinds of different theories that SOUND good, but won't work.
This is an interesting myTake, as most guys find the friendzone undesirable, it can be an unexpected boon to them. Mixed groups are always more interesting when going somewhere and people tend to notice you more when you're having fun and want to join the shenanigans. As a girl, idt I've ever been friendzoned. Men don't do that. I think they just reject you or you get the little sister treatment and that's it lol
I get what you're saying, but the problem with this "friendzone" is that the girl who friendzones the guy thinks it's all about her. If the guy accepts the "friendzone" and decides to go after another girl, the first girl will just get jealous and upset. If the guy accepts the friendzone but doesn't treat her with the same level of dedication as before, she will get upset and accuse him of being salty/immature etc. If the guy denies the friendzone he will get the same treatment. It's a bad outcome either way for me so I'd rather take the route of least contact. I think once feelings are involved, friendships aren't the best idea.
Friendzone also doesn't mean they totally "rejected" you, just that they need to for example adjust to the situation. But yea, 'friendzone' does indeed mean that she accepted you as part of her life, to live the life with here - not necessarily as a mate, but as a definite part nonetheless.
Ahh... you get to be on her cock bench. If the primary relationship doesn't work out she will start working her way down her cock bench of "friends". Who knows how far down the bench a given guy is, meanwhile, he has to listen to all of her shit.
trouble with the friendzone is it can last YEARS. plus your getting blue balled by her. its like the promise of cake but not getting to eat it or just a small taste instead.
It only isn't bad if you aren't truly interested in person. If you havw feelings for them and you still have to be their friend ad watch them be with someone else, it's torture.
Well, in that case you should decline the friendzone. But that seems to be like having tunnel vision. Its not like this us the only person in the world you could ever like.
@The_man_whol_aughs Yup. Being in the friend zone is absolutely not worth it for a man. The ONLY reason a man puts up with being in the friend zone is the "hope" that one day she will decide to date him.
@Avicenna like i said, i think there's two different dynamics. Because i definatly have people i have friendzoned that i have no intentions of ever sleeping with
I typcially only do this with people who i had intended to potentially date and was attracted to physcially, but didn't see it going into anything long term.
Very good mytake! I can see both sides of why being friendzoned could be a benefit and disadvantage for those involved. I totally agree here. I kind of friendzoned my ex after we stopped dating and we're sort of still friends til this day
So for the two girls I’ve asked out, I’ve been friend zoned simply because they had boyfriends. I know, it sucks and it kinda depresses me. They enjoy my company and all. I get along with them. But before I asked them out, they acted very flirtatious with me. Really got my hopes up :/
Welcome to the world of women, buddy. You should not have asked them out, if they were flirtatious you should have kissed them and pushed for sex right then and there. Probably a 50/50 chance you could have nailed both of them.
I never understood why being someone's friend is often considered undesirable, some women I have spoken to in real life almost act as though me not wanting to be in a relationship with them somehow means we cannot be friends anymore.
If you have to be rejected by someone, then getting friend-zoned is the best way to be rejected as it's all on nice terms.
Also, you then know that she still loves you as a friend, which you should just be grateful for and appreciate. That's a lot easier to not take personally than her not wanting to ever see you again.
Being friends with a girl can be just as fun and enjoyable as being with her in a relationship.
I really like your thoughts on the subject. You bring up some very valid points. I've had many platonic friendships with women and I can attest that your argument is valid. However, I think that a better title would be "Why Being Friendzoned Isn't ALWAYS Bad". There still will be a few women in a man's lifetime to whom he feels such a strong attraction that attempting to be platonic friends is simply torture.
I don't see being friendzoned as a negative thing. Maybe we simply aren't meant to be and being good friends is a great thing afterall! I mean... I found the man of my dream after that 🤗
Truth is I just get up and walk the fuck away. I've got enough women who are friends like 6 of them. Soo yeah you ain't interested in a relationship then bye.
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I don't know what to say. GaG is weird. And I say that not because of your viewpoint, but the number of folks who are giving you the thumbs up. A year ago, you would have been run out of this forum.
Well anyway, I totally disagree with you.
And I have already explained why in some great detail.
To All the Men Who Think They Have Been Friendzoned, Passed Over, etc. Here is a Little Advice...
This assumes that the women actually still bother to hang out with you and genuinely want to be your friend in the first place. Not "oh, you're like a brother" or "Oh, I just want to be friends" and then ghost / never bother with / ignore / act nasty to the guy.
and for 3) Getting to understand how women think... I have women family members. I have a few "surfacy" women friends. I still have no insight into how to ask out a woman (or a SPECIFIC woman) though I may understand partly how THESE women think. But even then, they could be lying, hiding stuff, or don't understand that situation. So gaining insight into them is useless for dating someone else. I've asked out women for years. This makes it no easier to ask out a woman. I'm still as bad at it (probably worse at it) than I was in high school and college, and I'm probably worse at talking to them.
I can read theory, but that's not implimentation, and there are all kinds of different theories that SOUND good, but won't work.
This is an interesting myTake, as most guys find the friendzone undesirable, it can be an unexpected boon to them. Mixed groups are always more interesting when going somewhere and people tend to notice you more when you're having fun and want to join the shenanigans. As a girl, idt I've ever been friendzoned. Men don't do that. I think they just reject you or you get the little sister treatment and that's it lol
I get what you're saying, but the problem with this "friendzone" is that the girl who friendzones the guy thinks it's all about her. If the guy accepts the "friendzone" and decides to go after another girl, the first girl will just get jealous and upset. If the guy accepts the friendzone but doesn't treat her with the same level of dedication as before, she will get upset and accuse him of being salty/immature etc. If the guy denies the friendzone he will get the same treatment. It's a bad outcome either way for me so I'd rather take the route of least contact. I think once feelings are involved, friendships aren't the best idea.
Friendzone also doesn't mean they totally "rejected" you, just that they need to for example adjust to the situation. But yea, 'friendzone' does indeed mean that she accepted you as part of her life, to live the life with here - not necessarily as a mate, but as a definite part nonetheless.
Ahh... you get to be on her cock bench. If the primary relationship doesn't work out she will start working her way down her cock bench of "friends". Who knows how far down the bench a given guy is, meanwhile, he has to listen to all of her shit.
Who needs that.
@KrakenAttackin There should be an olympic event called "jumping to conclusions"
trouble with the friendzone is it can last YEARS. plus your getting blue balled by her.
its like the promise of cake but not getting to eat it or just a small taste instead.
You know, once I got friendzoned, I just talked to other girls and eventually got a girlfriend.
not always as easy as 1, 2, 3.
It only isn't bad if you aren't truly interested in person.
If you havw feelings for them and you still have to be their friend ad watch them be with someone else, it's torture.
Well, in that case you should decline the friendzone. But that seems to be like having tunnel vision. Its not like this us the only person in the world you could ever like.
Unless it was friends with benefits i would still take it as bad becAuse its rejection.
At least you get to have benefits with friends
We have to deal with her emotions because of her stupid decisions
What r u talking about
You still get sex , we don't , we are just a shoulder to cry on
@The_man_whol_aughs Yup. Being in the friend zone is absolutely not worth it for a man. The ONLY reason a man puts up with being in the friend zone is the "hope" that one day she will decide to date him.
Fellas, "hope" ain't a strategy -- ever.
This is actually sadly true, but i have plenty of friends with benefits., and they are friendzoned.
So there's two different dynamics
If I get friendzoned, I treat her like any other platonic female friend. I entertain no notions of having sex with her.
@Avicenna like i said, i think there's two different dynamics. Because i definatly have people i have friendzoned that i have no intentions of ever sleeping with
To me being a "friend zoned friend with benefits" is absolutely ideal! Good sex without all of the side bullshit.
Absolutely right. Usually this makes women crazy and they quickly revert back to their flirtatious ways -- which I pretend not to notice.
I typcially only do this with people who i had intended to potentially date and was attracted to physcially, but didn't see it going into anything long term.
Very good mytake! I can see both sides of why being friendzoned could be a benefit and disadvantage for those involved. I totally agree here. I kind of friendzoned my ex after we stopped dating and we're sort of still friends til this day
So for the two girls I’ve asked out, I’ve been friend zoned simply because they had boyfriends. I know, it sucks and it kinda depresses me. They enjoy my company and all. I get along with them. But before I asked them out, they acted very flirtatious with me. Really got my hopes up :/
Welcome to the world of women, buddy. You should not have asked them out, if they were flirtatious you should have kissed them and pushed for sex right then and there. Probably a 50/50 chance you could have nailed both of them.
Agree, I've had various friendzones, some of which I placed there. and it can be much better due to the lack of pressures and openness.
but the downfall is when they find their mate... and that's actually a good thing.
This is kinda cope. Even if these are the worse things, nobody wants to stay in this situation
But I understand why women friendzone. No one should be forced to date a person just because they are nice to them
Or just because a man is sexually interested in them. And that's all.
I never understood why being someone's friend is often considered undesirable, some women I have spoken to in real life almost act as though me not wanting to be in a relationship with them somehow means we cannot be friends anymore.
Great take. I would 100% agree.
If you have to be rejected by someone, then getting friend-zoned is the best way to be rejected as it's all on nice terms.
Also, you then know that she still loves you as a friend, which you should just be grateful for and appreciate. That's a lot easier to not take personally than her not wanting to ever see you again.
Being friends with a girl can be just as fun and enjoyable as being with her in a relationship.
This can all be applied to breakups where you remain friends afterwards as well.
Its legit the worst thing.. Why be friends with a girl who has 0 attraction too you.. Not even a litte sexual attraction
Well, then you actually focus on the friendship rather than on trying to have sex with her.
I really like your thoughts on the subject. You bring up some very valid points. I've had many platonic friendships with women and I can attest that your argument is valid. However, I think that a better title would be "Why Being Friendzoned Isn't ALWAYS Bad". There still will be a few women in a man's lifetime to whom he feels such a strong attraction that attempting to be platonic friends is simply torture.
I don't see being friendzoned as a negative thing. Maybe we simply aren't meant to be and being good friends is a great thing afterall! I mean... I found the man of my dream after that 🤗
Truth is I just get up and walk the fuck away. I've got enough women who are friends like 6 of them. Soo yeah you ain't interested in a relationship then bye.
Being friend zoned sucks, but the key is to ask out lots of girls!
Exactly
I don't see friends Only see associates who can help in one way of another be it a man or a woman
For me I pretend to be friends to use his connections , contacts and his resources
For women may be with same reasons as men with the bonus of sexual satisfaction