Why Women Love Bad Boys

[WowwGirl]

Why Women Love Bad Boys.

Guys on GAG can hate on me for supporting things like promoting masculinity or how men should be aggressive/protective of their women, and thet being socially dominant over other males are some sexy traits for a guy to have.

First Off, What is a "Bad Boy"?

Scientist would call "Bad Boys" Hypermasculine Males. These men ooze Testosterone, which leads to Boldness and is associated with Exaggerated Sexuality. They may also be Rebellious or Emotionally Unavailable, Tough, and even a little Dangerous sometimes.

We Want Their Sperm Not Them.

Evolutionary biology, partially explains why "Bad Boys" can be so compelling to women. Research shows women are more attracted to masculine men during the middle of their menstrual cycle, when they’re the most fertile.

Men with very Masculine Traits may have better quality genes too, so it could be attractive to women on an unconscious evolutionary level.

They Free Us From the Pressure of Being “Good Girls".

Girls possess a range of traits, like rebelliousness and impulsiveness too. These traits are typically repressed females are socialized to be compliant and agreeable with others. If a girl's inner life is unexpressed, she may be drawn to a "Bad Boy" as a way of vicariously expressing her own inner rebel or "Bad Girl" self.

They’re Exciting, Different, and Forbidden.

Basically, we are attracted to qualities in guy's that we ourselves as girl's wish we had. "Bad Boys" can be a welcome change from the usual types of partners, especially if women are bored, these men can seem exciting and fun to them.

We Think They’ll Protect Us.

Women who feel besieged by threats and unwanted male attention often fall for tough guys. Their disregard for social norms and willingness to quickly escalate frustration to hostility, threats, aggression, and even violence.

Women desire having someone in their life who is tough enough to face the world and punch back if needed. Plus, a man defending his girl is just Sexy. It’s likely that some women feel more protected by the tough guy and his ease with aggression and conflict.

In The End Sadly.

Women who want to date "Bad Boys" really just helps to reinforce the Misogynist’s or (Incel's) idea of all women being evil and deceitful. Leaving them baffled by their lack of dating success. Not considering all the factors listed above about why girls do like "Bad Boys" not Incels.

It allows some men (Losers/Incel's) to blame and even hate women as a means of deflecting attention away from their own shortcomings in dating and in life. These are the same men you will see below whining, being bitchy, catty, and hateful in their comments about this MyTake.

Sorry guys but many women love "Bad Boys" always have, and always will.

Thank you for reading everyone and remember,,,,,

#wowgirlRocks

#WowgirlRocks

[Jjpayne]

Biology is a funny thing sometimes and very interesting to study

I enjoyed reading this! Fun my take and fun finishing picture!
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[Jjpayne]

Thank you for the mho! :)

[bamesjond0069]

Girls love aggressive and confident masculine men. Not soy boy feminist jerk offs. Facts dont care about your feelings.

[AsDaGask]

I disagree, said aggressive men often are complete dipshits as people. Who would want that as a partner?

The whole “he’s only good to me” cliché only works with young inexperienced women who believe in comic book romance.

[brennanhuff]

nah a guy doesn't have to be a Chad. Don't be a chad. A dude just has to have a backbone, which doesn't mean for him to also be an aggressive jerk off. A dude can be a good,, cool guy but have an edge to him

[bamesjond0069]

@AsDaGask @brennanhuff its weird you both really went after the word aggressive. Why do you assume that means asshole? Shouldn't an ideal attractive man be aggressive when say going for a promotion at work? Or if a mans being inappropriate to you, shouldn't he get in his face and tell him to back tf off? What about sports? isn't the man who dunks on the other team more attractive than one who is just playing to play?

[WowwGirl]

@bamesjond0069 hot

[WowwGirl]

Just hot

[bamesjond0069]

My point exactly. 😉

[WowwGirl]

@bamesjond0069 that's why I did it before

[brennanhuff]

well they may seem the same to you. But the analogy you made about a job promotion or defending someone who has another guy getting in their face. That's assertive. They seem the same, but they aren't assertive is good, but aggressive can be assertive on steroids basically. Assertive is confidence to take the lead. Often people who are aggressive are overbearing and almost trying to dominate or overtake. That often times is overdone and not necessary. The one playing to play I'd say may be more of the team player because he's focused on playing with his teammates and doing what wins. Vs The dude monster dunking on people might be a team player, but doing so often can be something out of a showing off and having a huge ego. We've seen how aggressive talented dudes who want to be the star or head honcho on the team, don't gel with other player and can rub other players the wrong way or seem to be "me" players. Look at teams who should have won it all based on talent, but they had players who were aggressive and over inflated egos and the team under achieved. I hate the patriots, but look how the team has been dominant because they take in the patriot way philosophy where the players even the star players are divas or about looking great, but play their roles and just win.

[bamesjond0069]

@brennanhuff yeah dominate. You can simply ask for a raise or shoot some hoops or tell a guy "hey thats my girl" but ill continue to keep dominating those situations. I am the ceo, im a trained fighter and i have 2 girlfriends. Yeah i may be an aggressive sort of man some would probably say. But back to the original point, girls like it.

[WowwGirl]

3 girlfriends

[WowwGirl]

@bamesjond0069 3

[NatalieKeller95]

yet why is my conservative friend single, while all the soyboy libtards aren't, liberals are too soft, Conservative is hard core everything

[bamesjond0069]

@WowwGirl haha come visit me anytime 😘

[brennanhuff]

meh dumb flakes do. Girls that got value don't. You can be dominant based on your skills, without having this idea that it's your goal to dominate everybody and everything, People who are like that, may be successful, but often not liked. Assertive people, they get what they want, but they aren't hell bent on overtaking people. They have that calm, cool swag that they'll succeed, but not care to overtake. They don't need to.

[bamesjond0069]

@brennanhuff keep telling yourself that. What do you think like strippers are into me? I mean I've dated strippers before so yeah but my gfs are nice normal traditional kinds of girls. Ones from church and the other is a sweet girl who is a waitress and likes the outdoors. Neither girl has been with more then 3 guys. Neither thought they would share a man either but im just so over the top attractive to them they gladly accepted it.

Guys today aren't very hungry or aggressive. They are weak and apathetic. And if they are the rare few that have drive they are often ineffective. And i think women put the bit of "discomfort" that comes with being with someone like me to the side because they think if they ever have a son they would want him to be like me. This goes exactly to what @WowwGirl mentioned above.

[WowwGirl]

Anytime you're ready @bamesjond0069 I would

[bamesjond0069]

@WowwGirl visit me or have my baby? 🤔

[WowwGirl]

If I visited you you'd fall in love with me. I have vagical powers remember? . So ,,,,, will see😏

[WowwGirl]

Call me the vagician

[SomeBlondeChick]

@bamesjond0069 - actual confident men aren't aggressive. Join the military to learn what confidence means. A good experienced drill sergeant would "beat" such stupid behavior out of you within the first six months, if not earlier.

Men who are overly aggressive often lack in something. Either capabilities or in the pants department. It's the same phenomenon as why lower end males who think they're "someone of note" will buy excessively large trucks or loud vehicles. Or speed/drive recklessly. They lack.

[bamesjond0069]

@SomeBlondeChick usually what undesirable women say. ALL rich men buy big trucks and or fast sports cars. Even the ones with big dicks. But its nice to see you put men out of your league down, shows off your amazing personality.

[WowwGirl]

Wowww

[WowwGirl]

@someblondechick confident men are aggressive they have boundaries and backbones aggressive doesn't mean violent it means they are men and actually act like them

[SomeBlondeChick]

@WowwGirl - ROFL. Overly aggressive behavior with someone who is legitimately confident & in self control would get your nose broken. Aggressive behavior is for losers that have no self control & think they're "tough men". Back in the turn of the century & in organisations like the mob, they're the bottom rungs of the social totem pole because you can't trust them worth shit.

In yesteryear/history they had little value because they were more adept at getting themselves killed or injured than actually being a useful member to a household.

[bamesjond0069]

@WowwGirl so many confused girls lol.

[WowwGirl]

@bamesjond0069 she said men are useful members of a household 😂

[bamesjond0069]

Her examples might be bad for a household however they were having more sex and probably children than "useful members of a household" lmao

[brennanhuff]

@WowwGirl umm this dude is bragging “trying to brag” on the internet. he’s cocky not confident. Confident people don’t brag especially not on the internet. Come on wow I’d think you’d have higher standards than that

[brennanhuff]

@SomeBlondeChick yes these guys like him are often compensating for something 😄

[startingfitness]

lol you mean "assertive" not aggressive. Be assertive when going for a job promotion. If you act aggressive you will get fired, lol. Aggression is not something you should ever show to a superior. Whether in business, in the military, or other institutions. It will never end well for you.

[bamesjond0069]

@startingfitness I don't know why y'all big pussies. Aggressive is how you get ahead. I am definitely aggressive in business and it works out great for me. Works great for President Trump too obviously.

[startingfitness]

lol you are clearly inexperienced, so you can stop pretending. No one will respect you because you are aggressive. Business is a man's world not a woman. And no man will respect you if you come on aggressive towards him, it will just annoy him or he will get right back at you.

And you absolutely never get aggressive with your superiors. That's human behaviour 101, its funny i need to teach this to someone in business, but I don't know if you are serious about that.
How did it go for you when you tried being aggressive with your parents when you were 5? you got spanked , didn't you. That's exactly what will happen when you do it with your boss. Trump is not a good example, he is the president so he can't get "fired", but he certainly can lose the respect of people. I find that he does tackle a lot of issues rather aggressively and if he didn't, he would be a lot more popular. But in his position its not as dangerous as in a lower position.

[bamesjond0069]

@startingfitness "And you absolutely never get aggressive with your superiors." Lol you sound like a good worker bee. Would you be afraid to go above your boss and steal a promotion from him?

I told my ceo once to go fuck himself and i got a promotion. I told a big finance company they would invest in my deal even though they said no 20x because it clearly did not qualify but i got a big client of theirs to pull out their business on my behalf so they said yes. This is what im talking about, you got to have some fucking balls and really show up to get ahead. Simply being assertive isn't enough many times. You got to own the room. Yes, if you aren't smart you will get spanked but if you can pull it off you're gold.

If you think a nice guy who follows the rules is more attractive than a bad ass who takes what he wants and isn't afraid to step on slackers toes a bit well then thats your mistake.

[startingfitness]

Lol, what a cute little fantasy.
I suggest you get a little bit more realistic irl. Its fine you can say what you want here i dont mind, i dont judge you for wanting to be tough.
But you got the wrong idea if you are planning to apply this irl. You dont need to be a nice guy, you need to be a smart guy. You need to be aware of who is the biggest in the room and where you land on the hierarchy. And then you move upward.

In business this takes forming a lot of connections with the right people and using them as leverage to secure better deals and form even more connections and gain a better reputation.
Its not like sports where you grow simply by showing strength. Actually, even in sports you need to learn to market yourself.

This pseudoscience alpha bs has mislead a lot of men. Dont be one of those.

[bamesjond0069]

@startingfitness its already led me to living a pretty decent lifestyle on pure investment income before the age of 30. So please keep your beta nonsense to yourself.

[startingfitness]

Sure it did bud. You dont have to pretend to me, but at least understand the real meaning of alpha and beta.

Alpha means the leader. Its not an act or an attitude or behaviour. Its a position. The one who makes the decisions is the alpha. And as you can guess humans dont have true alphas because we dont have one guy making all the decisions. Because different people are experts at different things.

Dont tell me about how successful you are , i know the pretense. i talk with entreprenurs twice your age who have much more experience under their belt and have a much better understanding of human psychology and how it relates to business.

If you want to really be successful, learn to be humble and use your mind rather than thinking you can solve things in the 21st century through aggression.

[bamesjond0069]

@startingfitness lmfao. You have to miss the most basic psychology to not see any difference between what people call alpha and beta. Stop looking at yourself for once and observe other people. Its quite clear.

[startingfitness]

What people call alpha and beta is wrong. Its because they, like you are uninformed. Look up who the person who did that study and how he used those terms? Do you even know what animal he studied? It wasn't humans.

You are clearly an idiot who has no clue of what he is talking about. Let me test you.
Tell me about venture capital and how you would invest in it. Just tell me in your own words what it is and also say how you pick where and how to invest. Or do you not invest? Is private equity of interest to you? Or do you just invest in stocks and bonds? Or did you "get lucky" from investing in cryptocurrency?

Lol, if you are actually a 30 yo successful businessman i would assume its not from investing but rather from being a decent entrepreneur. However you have not shown any wisdom that would have anyone believe you would be good at that.

[bamesjond0069]

@startingfitness i had an exit in technology and bought firesale companies that were mismanaged and completely automated them so basically doubled or tripled my money on each one within a year. They were very specific companies that were related to my exit so it was very easy for me and something most people couldnt do.

Idgaf what some scientist says or not about alpha and beta. Shit throw the terms out the window if you have a stick up your ass about them. There are those with balls and those with pussys and pussys get fucked. Be the one with some balls.

[startingfitness]

You tripled your money within each year. After automating all of it yourself.

Yet you dont have anything to say regarding those basic terms that i asked you prior.
Nice try. Let me know next time you are in business with santa and the Easter bunny.

[bamesjond0069]

@startingfitness yes. My exit was in automation. And companies going out of business are very cheap.

[brennanhuff]

@startingfitness exactly, he's too much of a meathead to get it. Tho considering he's trying to brag on the internet, it sounds like he's compensating for something lacking...

[brennanhuff]

God trump is such a lying tool bag, no surprise you'd talk like him. The dude lies about everything. He's probably a broke businessman actually if we see how his taxes are going. Better hope he gets re elected or else he might find himself in jail. If the nytimes was making this up, they'd be sued, but trump hasn't because he'd have to bring up info to counter that would reveal even more against himt

[brennanhuff]

@startingfitness point on. Being aggressive just turns against you. A dude might win, but nobody likes him. So in reality people won't respect him and I can't imagine having a person having friends or good friends being like that.

[WowwGirl]

@brennanhuff so you gotta hang up on him now? He's so weak you need 2 people. Ooooooook🙄

[bamesjond0069]

@WowwGirl he doesn't have a hang up, he's got a hard on for me 😂

[WowwGirl]

😂😂😂 I thought I was the boner promoter.

[WowwGirl]

I'm vagical really @bamesjond0069

[bamesjond0069]

The Trump derangement syndrome is epic. The man is the president lmao. Being aggressive obviously gets you places bruh. My point exactly.

[WowwGirl]

Vagic

[brennanhuff]

@wowwgirlDo n't need anything, the other guy just owned him and speaking facts. And bames couldn't say much back and it's because a guy who knows stuff was calling him out on his BS. I would think you'd like confident guys, as you proclaim to like alpha dudes. Psychology 101 shows, dudes who are cocky, especially on the internet are the opposite of confident and secure. The other dude was trying to give him advice and wisdom about relating to people in the real world and bames talks like some arrogant kid that will get humbled very fast or has but just too stubborn to learn from it. No one has said being a passive dork. We both said assertive, it's so weird how that;s such an opposite word to aggressive to him. They are different but still relate to standing up for yourself. One works with others, but gets your respect. The other (aggressive) may get you to the top, but will make tons of enemies and you're ultimately going to lose. Tell me of a winning team whether work force, sports that wins, with the talented "diva" player who is all about dominating , but is so wrapped up in his ego and himself that he hogs the ball and as a result doesn't work with the other guys on the team. They end up losing, because good teams have talent but also chemistry. When you're aggressive, you're more likely going to be a lone wolf and lose in the end.

[brennanhuff]

yeah he'll be in jail and everything he's said has been made up. He won, because he's good at manipulating people and the many cults out there

[aditicriesblood]

nah i like it when men are comfortable enough with their sexuality to paint their nails or wear a skirt or smth, they are still manly and hot just not masculine all the time

[brennanhuff]

So what happened to that aggressive attitude that Trump has, has him winning? lmao. Trump won the first time, because of his scheme of manipulation which is why his aggression worked. Eventually, like that guy was telling you. That cocky, aggression wears thin and people see through the facade and that a man can't back up his act. He's too full of shit and concerned about dominating that he gets push back and once that happens, it's too much. I think Trump just lost his re-election bid am I right? lol. You see because people saw him for the dbag he is. He though he could just run over people again and they said fuck you. Y

[Louistruman19]

@startingfitness you can be aggressive if you're a critical asset to the company, have other better options, or threatening for discrimination of some sort. So its not necessarily wrong to be aggressive sometimes. But most of the time you shouldn't be aggressive.

[brennanhuff]

@Louistruman19 yeah, he didn't mean never to be aggressive, like I was saying as well. Bames was saying how aggressive is the way to go, like the protocol to attack life all the time or most of the time. There's a time and place for aggression, but more often assertive is better because an assertive person will not be a push over. They will show confidence, demand respect and work to get what they want. But they don't have to step on people's feet which aggressive people can be. In the long run, it works to be a team player. You can be assertive, and still be a team player. That's what you call a leader, not a boss., Leaders take charge, but they are able to get people to follow, while bosses just bark orders, and don't have people backing them. It's important to have high morale at a company. Low morale ends up causing problems and tons of turn over, etc.

[GirlyGal20]

@brennanhuff nailed it.

[hellionthesagereborn]

You want bad boys for the same reason men want loose women, hormones and stupidity. A man who is not emotionally available is exactly what you don't want (which is why women bitch about it all the time when they get it). A man who is rebellious doesn't particularly function in society and as such tends to be poor and an outsider which is all fun and games until you have to grow the fuck up and then you dont want him but a "nice" guy (while bitching and moaning no nice guys exist because all of them went off with women who were not stupidly short sighted).

This is no different then the guy who wants the hot chick who will do all the crazy sex things he wants. Fun times until he has to grow up and realizes she does all of these things because she is crazy and has sever emotional baggage (bi polar manic depressives, daddy issues etc.) and it turns out her need for him was really need for attention which he will discover when he finds some other guy balls deep in her.

In short if you like bad boys, your stupid and you deserve everything your going to get. Social dominance isn't being a bad boy, most bad boys are not socially dominant, they are little boys trying to be men. They are the type of guy who flashes a wad of cash thinking its impressive to a guy who has multiple investsments in the bank (a much more economically impressive feat), who wants to fight every chance he can get because he is so easily offended and insecure he needs to make a scene in front of every one to assure them (and himself) that he is still "alpha".

Basically its everything an alpha male would be if you had no idea what an alpha male really is and if your too stupid to know the difference then your doomed to a shitty and miserable life (but then you probably have already started to figure that out (if your able to at least admit it to yourself).

But hey what ever floats your boat, just don't bitch and whine about how their are no good men left after you get used up and thrown away, have the guts to see your poor choices to the end.

[Kaazsz]

Same goes for men. We love beautiful sexy perfect flawless women and we all wish we could have one. But we can't. Because those women are rare. The majority of us have to settle for less.

The problem is that we all know and agree and acknowledge the fact that men prefer beautiful sexy perfect women. But we tell men they don't have to strive for what makes women attracted to us. Just be a wimpy beta male and you will be a good man. Yea sure, society wants men to be wimpy betas and we all want to be good people. So some men end up believing that love just depends on you being yourself.

Bullshit. That's not how love works. First, people go for what they are attracted to. And if they can't have what they are attracted to, they lower their standards. And they lower and lower and lower and lower until they find someone who wants them back and they settle for the best they can get.

Then maybe those people will love eachother. When they are forced to settle and have no choice but to love what they can get.

A lot of guys don't realize that just like how women dress up and make themselves look as good as they can so they can get the highest level of attractive man on the scale they can get, the same goes for men. We have to work hard to get the hottest sexiest cutest prettiest girl we can find. And if you don't work for it you won't get it. Problem is society teaches us not to strive for that. Because society tells us masculinity is evil and toxic and bad. So we are taught to reject masculinity. The equivalent for women would be to discard beauty, get fat on purpose and grow their facial hair out and never take care of themselves.

That's basically what has happened to many men. We are taught from day 1 of birth that we are scum for being men. And if we want to be good men we will discard our masculinity. And many men take it to heart.

The incels are simply those men who were pre-disposed to take it to heart the most. And they discard and reject and hate masculinity so much themselves that when they learn the truth that women love masculinity, they become angry.

There are women like this too. Who hate men and are angry that men want beauty in their women. But even so, those women do not discard their strive to be as attractive as they can. Well, usually. Of course there are women who don't try either. They give up because they feel broken and discarded and hopeless. And the same goes for a lot of incels.

[Kaazsz]

The only men I think that women think are even more attractive than bad boys, or those men who I suppose some would call "real men." Just because a guy is a "bad boy" doesn't mean he's a real man.

A real man puts a bad boy in his place. A real man calls out of bad boy for his shitty behavior and sets him straight. A bad boy has zero power over a real man. And I think most women would prefer that kind of man over the bad boy. But even still, the bad boy still probably gets way more girls and way more sex than that "real man." But either way, women will still swoon for him when they witness their beloved bad boy get shut down and sent to the corner by a real man.

[invalid1]

Not whining or being bitchy 😂 but you're point is clear though, scientific, true, I like that.
Just like in the movie "daddy's home" two males, one as what you described, another passive and emotional, however has commitment, loyalty, and parenting skills.

And just like you said, you want their sperm, cuz that's all what you're gonna get :) that's why women are so easy to fool, I mean I can play this character so easily, especially if I just want to manipulate girls. EVERY guy has a weakness, there are no supermen out there, sorry to disappoint you, but this "Bad guy" who fits into your description mostly doesn't exist, it is a persona many use for short time relationships. that's why they disappear and leave you pregnant, or maybe disappear and come back (the good ones). it's because they won't show you their passive side, and it's time to move on to another girl. they are just filling your fantasy to enjoy your body. that's maybe why "people are hating on you".

I know there are mature women out there who want someone who can make them safe from himself in the first place. and who are brave to show their passive side as well as their masculine side. and unless you agree with me then you are the one who would be whining. You are the kind of girl who has no right to complain about cheating.

[WowwGirl]

Why would I?

[ItsTheNephilim]

Lol okay. It's annoying how the term 'bad boy' is tossed around for guys who are simply assertive, bold, confident, territorial and are aware of their surroundings. The idea of being fascinated by 'bad boys' (from the film industry of course) and the 'toxic' traits like emotional unavailability, lacking remorse and other psychopathic tendencies are clear signs of hoping something good out of a train wreck relationship (pointless duh). Smart women know what they want and all that cocky aggressiveness doesn't do anything to them. Of course they like confidence but showing it off and charging onto others with all that macho bs is a such an annoying thing to do. I'd say a male who could put such a poser down and still live in silence with emotional maturity would be better.

Dear girls, never go for such a guy who is described in the given take. Rather go for someone who is more emotionally mature and understanding (if you love yourself). There are males who are at a fine a balance of confidence, boldness, maturity, emotional availability, understanding, rebellious, assertive, charming, expressive, loving and caring nature who will handle you well without draining you out. You just gotta look. But if you're looking for a good fuck, then you can rely on the take mentioned for the kind of guy you want.

P. S I laughed really hard at 'We Want Their Sperm Not Them' 😂.

[ZELLxoxo]

That point was so funny 😂😂

You write so well baby :)

[ItsTheNephilim]

@ZELLxoxo ikr! I mean.. Har kuchh hi likh do 😂.

Yeah I do... 😛. Shukran 😌😘.

[ZELLxoxo]

Han matlab kuch bhi likh do 😂😂😂

[ItsTheNephilim]

@ZELLxoxo let me do sab kuchh to you 😛.

[ZELLxoxo]

🙈🙈😝😝😝

[SHREYASH007]

bandar kyaa jaane adrak kaa swaad aur apne bewakuf log inko follow kar rahe hai jabki ye log khud confused hai inhe kyaa chahiye. bad boy kaa sperm yaa kuch aur

[ItsTheNephilim]

@SHREYASH007 wahi toh. 😂
Article likhne ke naam par kuchh bhi bak daalo

[Elsa143]

So nicely described. That overconfidence and aggressiveness is of no use.

[ItsTheNephilim]

@Elsa143 sure, thanks :)
I don't know what is there to like about those traits either.

[Elsa143]

Those women have inferiority complex and that's why they love to be treated like a toy and then like a doormat. But still they enjoy being submissive. Why? Because he's TOUGH!!! OMG!!

[ItsTheNephilim]

@Elsa143 nothing good comes out of that.. Just an invitation to get abused and mostly complain later along with regrets. I will agree any day that dominance, aloofness (to an extent), assertiveness blah blah is very attractive but emotional availability shouldn't be left behind while going in for a relationship. Women really need to know this before falling for wrong things and getting their self esteem even more sabotaged.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

Simply put, I like men that are confident and aren't afraid to shoot their shot at me, able to provide security, good looking, and social. Confidence is very attractive in a man. When a man is generally quiet, shy, or nervous, especially when talking to me, I'm instantly turned off. Confidence in a man indicates that he's able to take charge and lead not only in many facets of life, but also in the bedroom. I love it when men can use their dick like a champ. I'm also attracted to men that are tough and aren't afraid to stand up for themselves, me, and their family. When I'm in a relationship, I want to feel protected when I'm with my partner. If some man disrespects me and/or gets aggressive with me, I want to feel confident that my man can handle that situation. If I find out that he is scared to or otherwise unable to be a protector, then I'm instantly turned off. Of course, like any girl, I like men that look good.

I'm attracted to men that are taller than me and lean, as in built like the typical basketball player or track and field runner. I avoid fat men like the plague and encourage skinny guys to tone their body up a bit. I also find tattoos sexy on men, but they're not required to have them. I love it when men are social because having a sense of humor and being able to go out and have fun makes men more attractive as well. Men that prefer to sit in the house all day, not talk to people, and play video games all day are boring and unattractive. Altogether, I wouldn't describe this type of guy as a "bad boy." Usually, when I think "bad boy," I think criminal. I try to avoid guys with felonies on their record. While I'm not really into thugs, guys with these traits I listed that resemble thugs are sexy. I agree with you though. Men that typically lack these traits sometimes do go MGTOW and start complaining on the internet without actually working hard to have these traits. They're very unattractive.

[Louistruman19]

I love this take. So he pretty much has to be goodlooking before anything else right?

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Louistruman19: Not necessarily. He has to have the confidence, toughness, and social skills to match. It's possible that he could be good looking, but is still a socially awkward shy pussy.

[Louistruman19]

So basically you just confirmed my statement. He does need to be physically attractive before anything else. Confidence doesn't make up for being unattractive

[zyxacb]

@Louistruman19 basically she's talking like she's shopping for an object on Amazon, and is so flooded with options she feels entitled, as many women do when still physically attractive & chased... if I gave women a likewise list, they'd respond, "ok, I don't meet your list, but I don't care what you want, you're not what I want & that's what's important.".

I would love to hear here explain how much work she has done on her morals, character, virtues, to be worthy of a man she insists on, because if I gave her a list of my demands, odds are she would go "ok", and feel like I'm acting arr

[Levin]

"They Free Us From the Pressure of Being “Good Girls".

Girls possess a range of traits, like rebelliousness and impulsiveness too. These traits are typically repressed females are socialized to be compliant and agreeable with others. If a girl's inner life is unexpressed, she may be drawn to a "Bad Boy" as a way of vicariously expressing her own inner rebel or "Bad Girl" self."

I think there's a lot of truth to this analysis.

On the issue of socially dominating others. I think this is a slightly Americancentric outlook. It's more about self mastery. If you've mastered yourself, you're already likely socially (and otherwise) masterful but you're secure in yourself sufficiently that you don't need to impose yourself on others. There's a way of not playing the game and thus beating it, if you catch my drift.

There's also ways of being assertive and again, masterful, without having to resort to aggression, hot tempered, unreasonableness, etc. The best thing a man can strive to is being calm as possible in any adversity. No one wants someone who flies off the handle at any triviality. It's just... childish, really. There's a basic karma behind it. Sure, women can have this kind of 'excitement', but there will be a shadow side to it. One reaps what one sows from the choices one makes. One 'good' girl I know has a boyfriend like this. Who makes childish and idiotic violent threats to other men over the telephone, and is not even allowed to have make friends. Going forward I'd like women to take as much responsibility as the man when these kinds of things transpire since these are the continual choices she is making to be with such a 'dominant' guy.

[Levin]

I also wouldn't get too caught up in biological descriptions of what is taking place. Sure, they're important and contain truth, but we should all have the wherewithal and knowledge to transcend our basic impulses and biology, particularly where these are destructive, or just downright idiotic.

[bluetoblack99]

Well at least you’re honest. I’ll give that.

We get exactly what you said above and have for years. But you are very wrong about “We Think They’ll Protect Us.” part. They won’t.

The bad boy doesn’t really give a shit about you. He see’s you as a piece of meat and a notch on his bed post. If he “protects” you it’s because he’s more worried about his own reputation vs. your own safety.

The real thing you are attracted to is challenge. The challenge of trying to be “the one” who breaks and tames him. It’s a fantasy you most likely never fulfill but he will definitely fill you with semen. You will leave with a broken heart and will have no one to blame but yourself.

I accept this is how things are as stupid as it is. But here are three glaring hypocrisies that will continue to exist because of this complex:

• Men won’t listen to women nor should they when it comes to dating advice. Most women give horrible advice to young men and just turn them into beta’s. Why do you do this?
• Whenever a girl calls a guy a “nice guy” it’s time for him to leave ASAP. Ditch the bitch because he’s friendzoned. Truth is there is a minority of women who are sexually attracted to nice guys but this bad boy complex confuses guys. Thanks for confirming that.
• Men especially white men have almost 4 times the suicide rate as women. You wonder why?
• Society shouldn’t take grievances about violence against women seriously (especially western society). At least half of these women chased the dangerous guy to begin with. I have no sympathy for you for diving into a dark pit face first. You got what you asked for.

This is why men and women will never be “equal”. You can’t conveniently omit gender equality from dating.

[WowwGirl]

Honest yes quiet no🙂

[bluetoblack99]

It’s just real sad that at 31 years old you still believe this. You realize that this disgusting self sabotaging feminine mental quirk ultimately leads to your own self destruction?

I could easily move overseas and use my money to “buy” a beautiful 19 yr old wife. She will literally be at my beck and call for whatever I want since I’m the breadwinner. But I’m not going to do that because 1) It’s not true love (just like the bad boy doesn’t give a shit about you.

2) I respect myself (unlike you)

3) It will be a fake relationship (just like bad boy fucking your over)

4) Last but not least nobody is going to be a shoulder to cry on if I get fucked over. Why society keeps on pitying masochinist morons like you is beyond me.

15 years from now you will either be a single bitter cat woman who blames everything on men OR you will be a single mother who also blames everything on men. But deep down the person at fault is in the mirror. Enjoy making yourself miserable for the quick adrenaline high your 31 yr old grown ass is still chasing.

[WowwGirl]

APA believes it too😀

[zeitgeist057]

@bluetoblack99 you’re creating a two dimensional paper tiger stereotype in order to support your theory. In reality, individuals are much more complex and varied than you portray.

I have been, and maybe to some extent still am, “a bad boy“. It doesn’t mean I’m abusive, immature, unfeeling (sociopathic), and/or a rapist.

I am adventurous (motorcyclist, scuba diver, world traveler, wildland firefighter, sailor, psychonaut, flirt, BDSM Daddy Dom/Rigger) and I attract women simply by enjoying my life. When they see what fun I’m having, they want to join in. When I am attracted to a woman, I open up those opportunities for her.

Women are gaining independence, so they don’t need me to do any of the above. But it is nice to find someone who is already doing something you dream of, especially since even with independence, women tend to seek a mentor/protector in a man.

I’m definitely a challenge, but that challenge isn’t about unhealthy behaviors, it’s more about my autonomy and the life I have created for myself. I don’t/won’t limit myself in order to cater to someone else’s “needs”. If your “need” is for me to operate at less than my full potential, then by definition, a relationship with you is unhealthy for me. I demand freedom, and I reciprocate by offering full freedom in return. This absolutely can be a barrier to intimacy if you regard intimacy as being synonymous with compromise and sacrifice. I believe intimacy is about building love that encourages growth rather than restricts it.

Anyway, i’m going off on a tangent little bit a lot of this is deeper than I can explain with the couple paragraphs.

TLDR: bad boys aren’t always bad.

[bluetoblack99]

@zeitgeist057 I actually agree with your definition and viewpoint. I get your observation.

About six years ago I was competing in pro mma and doing b level acting. It was fun, spontaneous and I enjoyed it. I was also dead broke (in debt) and felt like a “Peter Pan”. Like I wasn’t growing up. I had a much younger girlfriend and I also attracted lots of attention of several women. I was in an industry were more of them were around but I acted more carefree. But it bothered me that my 25 year girlfriend had more financial stability than I did.

Now I have a full time career, own real estate. I don’t have time for all that but I do exercise everyday. But at least I won’t be a 45 year old Peter Pan in a few years. But I’m “boring” now all because I wanted stability.

But what I see a definition of “bad boy” from women is usually the following:

- sociopathic guys who will throw anyone under the bus to get their way. They usually get away with it by being charming.

- fuckboy/manwhores. Women say that they don’t like scumbags but let’s face it a part of them sees these guys as “in demand”
- usually treats women as disposable. He might open doors for them or pull out chairs for them to sit. But he’s verbally/emotionally abusive.
- will often throw shade at other guys unprovoked. For example if some nervous guy approached a girl at a bar and she’s not interested he will jump in and mock him. He knows the poor guy doesn’t mean any harm but he will ramp you and agree with “he’s a creep” viewpoint the girl might have. Throw up under the bus to make himself look better.
- he usually has some criminal history. Whether it be domestic violence or drug dealing.
- he is always what women say is “emotionally unavailable”.

You know why I say all this? Because I dabbled in this behavior (minus the criminal part) and it fucking worked. I was sad it worked.

Point being is a grown ass 31 year old woman should have better insight than this.

[zeitgeist057]

@bluetoblack99 I feel you. I read "The Game" and was curious/inspired by the PUA tactics I'd never heard of before, so I read up and tried some of those "negging" and other behaviors that absolutely work. It also helped me recognize some of the behaviors I had already been unconsciously practicing (like the social status games you mentioned bagging on others).

It's a weird and delicate balance as I get older. I'm undecided if I want to be a Peter Pan or not, I mean.. it is FUN, but I do also want to be mature. I'm always told I want my cake and to eat it, too. But no one has yet managed to explain to me why that is a bad thing, or what good a cake is that you can't eat.

So I get it, I see women falling for that BS as well, and I can tell when a dude is a scumbag, but for some reason they are either oblivious or? I lose respect for them, honestly. I feel like on one hand they are a sort of victim, so I don't want to blame them, but on the other hand I see them seeking out this behavior over and over after getting hurt and feeling used, so I'm like "wtf, are you gonna learn someday?". Meanwhile, I still like to date younger women, partly because they have been through less of the BS and I don't have to deal with some baggage from her last boyfriend or that one guy that screwed her over.

[bluetoblack99]

@zeitgeist057 I was very similar to you about 6 years ago. But also didn’t want to be a 45 year old living pay check to pay check. A 25 year old can get by dicking around but at 45 you better have your shit together.

I’m also very proud to be self made and independent. I don’t want to a sugar mama, my parents or the government subsidizing my life. I’m a man. I don’t want handouts while I pursue my hobbies. I once had a ex girlfriend offer me money (during my Peter Pan days) when I hit a rough patch. I told her no thanks and just went further into debt which I paid off later.

But let’s face it. Very few “bad boys” are both spontaneous and have true financial stability. Celebrity males women waste their time fantasizing about can have the best of both worlds. But even those guys are targets for #metoo bs so these worthless freeloaders can get paydays later.

Anyway I’m glad you are happy man. I’ve read up Corey Wayne and Doc Love myself. They helped me address some of my quirks. I got much more action following their advice. But I’m sick of being fake. I’m a genuine nice guy but I always have to be on my guard. I’m just sick of the fast stupid asinine assumptions women make thinking I’m going to be “okay” with the friendzone. I don’t tolerate that shit but the fact they even TRY doing this is insulting.

But what @WowwGirl wrote in her take while being a grown ass 31 year old women makes me want throw up all over the place. I can see her crying victim down the road when she gets what she asked for. Not my fault you want to lie down in the middle of a busy highway. I swear at least 50% of the domestic violence situations could be avoided if some women would just get their heads out of their you know whats about what they are chasing.

[bluetoblack99]

We will NEVER achieve true gender “equality” until women stop diving head first into the pit. We give them excuses due to “biology” but MEN HAVE CHANGED over the years to suppress their sexual scumbag urges. Not all of course but the borderline guys or now more cognizant of what they are doing which might make a women feel uncomfortable.

Why can’t women change for men?

[zeitgeist057]

@bluetoblack99 I don't know, it just seemed like a pretty on point My Take tbh. I thought it was well written, and none of it rang false. That's just the way it is, although I totally get you on the real and actual danger they expose themselves to. I often equate people's (my own included) desire for danger/adrenaline to a roller coaster. You want that thrill, the adrenaline rush when your brain gets tricked into thinking you are going to die and activates the sympathetic nervous system. But you don't want to actually die, or even get a wee little splinter, that could hurt!

It's the same thing with girls. They want the excitement, but for it to ultimately be safe. The difference between a rape fantasy and actual rape. Many 'bad boys', are actually pretty bad. Unbalanced, unhappy, selfish, and basic. But also "successful" in certain circles and by certain standards. I don't think it does me much good though, to harp on all that and fret about it. I just live my own life and do my best, and let the rest of the world fumble along its own path. Those who align with me end up closer, and those who don't end up farther away.

As for financial stability, I don't really have an issue with that. All the traveling and playing around I do has been on my own dime, from money saved working (mostly as a wildland firefighter, making in 6 months what many do in a year, then doing a bit of shoestring travel for 6 months). I've got my own yacht, which doubles as my home, in my own slip, all bought and paid for, no debt. I max out my IRA contributions + invest a bit more on the side. I'm not obsessed with money, but I do like to live comfortably and I have long term goals that require a fairly substantial nest egg.

[WowwGirl]

@zeitgeist057 I read two sentences and said no way but rant away buddy

[WowwGirl]

@zeitgeist057 agree

[WowwGirl]

Lmao what's the other dudes problem?

[DexWest]

There is a lot of things wrong with this post. First off, being masculine is a matter of opinion. Just because they’re hyper masculine does not mean that they automatically are a bad boy. My friend is 28, a marine, and he looks every inch like a marine. He gives off the bad boy vibes, but actually acts like I giant teddy bear. In the same sense that some men go for the strong independent females, women go for the strong, independent, bad boy persona men; however, there is the risk of playing with fire because you may enter into a DV relationship. One of my friends went after the bad boy personas. Act that the whole time while they were dating. On the night of their honeymoon, he put her head into the passenger side window on their way to the airport. Wanting a man for his genes is admirable, but you know nothing about his genes. He may have a history of cancers, diabetes, and a whole host of other genetic disorders that don’t appear on the surface. Now, I’m not saying that girls can’t date guys with the bad boy personality. Some of them are actually very nice ( marine). Others are domestic abusers towards women ( friends ex-husband). Get to know the person for more than what they project. Meet their parents, and form a long lasting relationship between the two of you instead of having a one night stand. You may want a strong baby, but as humans, we don’t control genetics. You may want a strong baby, but that baby may look like you, and have a bunch of genetic predispositions. You just don’t know. Be safe out there ladies. Like our moms tell us guys, Think with your mind and not what’s between your legs.

[NatalieKeller95]

men are supposed to be masculine for a reason, it doesn't help that liberal communist professors are feminizing males these days, society is starting to become mental illness itself with people speaking about fantasy based stuff and talking as if it's a fact, it's not good

[Tonytoutouni123]

@DexWest
I have to disagree to a certain extend.
Women actually can subconsciously see indicators that show weather a man has „good genes“ or not.
It highly correlates with testosterone levels and with how symmetric the face and the body is. Symmetric is also an indicator for men by the way. Both genders rate symmetric people to be more attractive, because symmetric indicates that your immune system was able to easily defend against viruses during your development.

However I agree with you about having „good genes“ doesn’t mean being a bad person.

[tofamous]

I hope you don't mind me saying this sweetheart God-bless you that's what men are designed to do protect provide the disciplinary of the house women are the nurturers There a home makers I recently lost my mother and at same time my father had a major stroke my parents Mary gender 3 times can't say they didn't try to point I'm getting at is this my mom called me Several times prior to her passing there was upset and crying apologizing that she wasn't healthy enough there come from Southern California to help me with my dad now mind you They badmayev each other for 35 years and I know she was sincere now a man the problem or cold hearted lot are all male and female are made for certain things it's not being a male chauvinist pig Let's face it is like important 105 111 who made the corporate ladder to these top world corporations they got out their natural role If you can't stay natural role I'm not saying don't adventure don't try these don't learn things my mother could drag race I grew but dry ship I saw tears apart transmissions rebeldom put him back in yes my mother Oh my God Set up got such a diverse background Relate to everybody the gang bangers major crime figures politicians doctors lawyers Being rich being forI will not say no more in God-bless you all

[WowwGirl]

I'm a Traditionalists don't tell me

[Paul09]

Lets start with the definition of bad.

bad
/bad/

adjective
1.
of poor quality or a low standard.
"a bad diet"

Similar:
substandard

poor

inferior

second-rate

second-class

unsatisfactory

inadequate

unacceptable

not up to scratch

not up to par

deficient

imperfect

defective

faulty

shoddy

amateurish

careless

negligent

dreadful

awful

terrible

abominable

frightful

atrocious

disgraceful

deplorable

hopeless

worthless

laughable

lamentable

miserable

sorry

third-rate

diabolical

execrable

incompetent

inept

inexpert

ineffectual

crummy

rotten

pathetic

useless

woeful

bum

lousy

ropy

appalling

abysmal

pitiful

godawful

dire

poxy

not up to snuff

the pits

duff

chronic

rubbish

pants

a load of pants

egregious

vulgar slang
crap

shit

chickenshit
...
Bad is bad. I understand if you want a tough guy. But bad boys are just bad people. Temporary you'll be in love with the thought. But then you want something serious, ya that not the type for that. Just for short term relationship. If you manage to stay long with this type, you'll end up learning this type isn't the right type. So it ends up in break ups, and divorces. People and their trying to change the meaning of words, blows my mind.

[alice55]

You're mistaken a bad boys is a guys who doesn't follow rules and do what he want, he's free and doesn't care about people opinion of him (in the 50s bad boys were the one who worn black leather jacket, in the 80s it was punk and those who loved hard rock, etc... basically any guys that is rebellious is considered a bad boys and is it attractive to girls for the simple reasons that they want to be free too and have fun but care too much about people opinion of them).
Being a good boys and respecting the rules don't make you cool and you can put down bad boys as much as you want they would still stay attractive.
Also lots of good boys have an hidden nasty personality.

[startingfitness]

@alice55 but that behaviour is the same behaviour that abuses women and eventually leaves them with nothing. often with children and no man to take care of them. Yet some women ( like you ) will protect them and instead vilify decent men.
This is why people think women are backwards and stupid.

[Paul09]

@alice55 Woook Im more of a good boy then lol. But I can be bad when needed. Normally negative attitudes push people away. But apparently not. Women love to get hurt by them, then ask why? Lol... I've been plenty bad back in the day. But I matured. So meaning change? bad boy is good, and good boy is bad.. Man I can't keep up to these weird meanings. Either way I'd never want a "bad girl" whatever that is.

[alice55]

@startingfitness This is a stereotype, not all bad boys leave women and abuse them my father was a "bad boys" and he never left my mother neither abused her. Everyone loved him.

As for "decent" men if you do not behave or say exactly the things they want then they just insult you and try to humiliate you (which doesn't work anyway).
All the guys that seemed good or described themselves as decent men turned out to be extremely nasty to the smallest things, if you do not think like them, dress like they want, act like they want, etc.. They just become extremely rude (at least that is my personal experience, I had much better experience with bad boys then nice guys).

[alice55]

Bad girls is the same as a bad boys just that swearing is not considered good for a girls and so they're not considered feminine or having a good behavior so they aren't very liked (by both good guys and bad guys).
Personally I'm a good girls which is why I like bad boys cause they're fun and exciting, it change from respecting the rules and all (which is extremely annoying).
Bad boys just mean they do the things they want and don't respect the rules, they do things their own ways which is cool

[startingfitness]

@alice55 your definitions are really stupid to be honest. What you call "bad boys " aren't bad boys at all. And what you call "decent men" are far from decent.

You are basically just making up words.

Real bad boys are guys who act without any responsibility. This can cover a wide range of behaviour and some can even be criminals. But some aren't on the other side of the law but they are still irresponsible and a headache to those that surround them.
If your idea of " bad boy" actually takes care of a woman then that means that he is actually decent.

[alice55]

@startingfitness I'm not, that the definition of my country. What I call decent are the men that respect the rules and those I call bad guys are those that don't follow the rules / laws, my definition are good. It's not my fault if your own definition is different than mine.

Your definition is totally weird.
Your bad boys isn't a bad boys it's just an abuser which is different. My definition of bad boys is the one of my country. Can't help it if all country doesn't have the same. A bad boys is not an abuser he's rough on the edges but treat their girls and their friends / family rights he just does not follow the rules, not like authority and doesn't always follow the laws.
Your definition of a bad boys is just a criminal which is not the same. You're mixing everything.

[NatalieKeller95]

@alice55 basically an above average looking non-conformist

[alice55]

@NatalieKeller95 Yes, that's it

[startingfitness]

@alice55 bad boy will never treat you right. keep being delusional rule breakers aren't nice people and they dont treat their friends or family right, stupid girls are so delusional. Come complain here when you are a single mother or infected with stds

[Tonytoutouni123]

@alice55
„Being a good boys and respecting the rules don't make you cool and you can put down bad boys as much as you want they would still stay attractive.“

I always hate statements like this because breaking the rules only to act like a gangster is so childish and it is sad to read that so many women love what they call „rebellious behavior“. If the rules make sense and have a good purpose, then don’t break them to show how „rebellious“ (aka stupid) you are. But unfortunately breaking them will give you much pussy.
A girl can tell me a stupid rule that makes no sense and I will break it 100 000 times to show her what a „tough gangster“ I am, but if the rule makes sense, I will stand behind it and not break it. No matter how boring I will appear in her eyes. That being said, most rules make sense

[Tonytoutouni123]

@alice55 @NatalieKeller95
Regarding the definition of bad boy:

A bad boy is definitely someone who behaves morally wrong. Why else would he be called "bad" if he were not "bad"?

A "Red wine" is called "red wine" because it is red. If it were white, it would be called „white wine“.

A "bad boy" is called "Bad Boy" because he is bad. If he were good, he would be called a „good guy“.
Seems to be pretty logical.

„All the guys that seemed good or described themselves as decent men turned out to be extremely nasty“

Just because someone describes himself as decent or disguises himself as a good guy does not mean that he is. He is actually a bad guy that acts like a good guy. That’s a huge difference.

[NatalieKeller95]

@Tonytoutouni123 ok betatard

[Tonytoutouni123]

@NatalieKeller95

I do not speak English very well. Whatever that means. probably some kind of insult. Strange that you insult just because you have a different opinion.

[alice55]

@Tonytoutouni123 Good boy never ever break the rules if you do you can't be considered a good boy that's just stupid. In high school we were forbidden to have a bottle of water or food in our bag, we were also forbidden to wear short in extremely hot weather and school in my country don't have ac so we were dying of heat and forbidden to drink any water go tell me this is a good rules and not a completely stupid one, also we could wear skirt and dress but boys will lift it so it leave us no choice but to wear pants in 40 degreee celsius, also we couldn't wear tank top or anything showing the shoulder..

[alice55]

@Tonytoutouni123 . So in this case I'm sorry but this rules is stupid and don't make sense and most rules are just as stupid, in my country if someone enter in your house and change your lock then the house is at him and you're left with nothing if you try to enter your house then you'll be taking in by the policemen and have a fine to pay. If someone enter in your house and threaten your wife with a knife and you shoot him with a gun then you're the one who's considered as a aggressor and you go to prison while the criminal threating your wife have nothing and can actually file a claim against you. Rules in my country (France) are ridiculous, they're shit they always protect the bad person and never the good so you can understand that I think people who follow the rules are actually ridiculous.
A woman who pepper spray a man that try to rape her is the one who's going to have problem with them law since pepper spray is illegal where I live so you have to be defenseless and let people steal your house, your money, your car etc... and if you try to defend yourself you're the one who go to prison. My father wasn't one to follow the rules at all and he was an extremely good person and treated all people he loved extremely well (much more well than any other "decent guys" who's are just plain stupid and say "following the rules is good you should follow them if you do not you're a criminal and can't do anything good, etc..." This is a just an excuse decent guys make to make themselves seem attractive while they're just stupid and a wimp.

[alice55]

@startingfitness They are, they're actually the only one who treat their friend and family right the other one are just wimp.
A bad boy will protect his friend even if said friends is accused of something illegal while a decent guy will just say every to the police for "justice". This is the most nasty things ever, Guys who follow the tules are ready and to call the police on their family member cause that's "the tight things to do" while it's a disgusting things to do a bad boy will never do so.

Bad boy just mean you're rebellious in my country and is it mean in a good way.
A decent boy is either an annoying guy who's a wimp (and say he's a decent guys and like to follow the rules while insulting anyone who's different) or the kind of guys parent's are happy to have a son in law cause he got money, have rich family, good career, have a stable job and is nice and family oriented as well as catholic / religious.

My definition of bad boy is the one in French movie, what you're talking about is a criminal so not a bad boy at all.

And you aren't a decent guys you're just extremely bitter that women don't like you cause you aren't cool as a bad boy or aren't a good person as a decent guy (the one who family like).
You're just a fake decent guy who insult people and is bitter a true decent guys would never insult anybody neither be rude to them he'll be nice and try to help people the most he can instead of being rude to them.

[Paul09]

@alice55 What freakin country do you live in? And those are bad examples. People randomly get accused? And friends tell on them? Is this like a daily thing? So hard to understand your logic. If I understand right, evil is good and good is evil. Better to be a devil than an angel. Better to commit crime than stop it? Am I using your logic right?

[alice55]

France. And yes that's a regular things, it happen many times.
No but if being a good person mean you're going to be a pushover who nobody respect and everyone treat like shit cause they're good then it's better to not be good.

In my country good people get nothing only left over and the other the louder one the one that complain get everything so it's pretty logical why it's better to be part of the louder party.

[Paul09]

@alice55 nope. Not for me. I rather respect people, be nice, selfless, and be positive. I give a shit about my friends and family. That is what I want in return. Man "bad boys" here, are all bald and fat lol. Karma hot them so hard. There's too many bad people, and bad boys the world runining it for everyone else.

[alice55]

To each their own, personally i'm a good person but I try not to be cause it bring you too many shit and at the end where I live it's good people who die and get fat / bald ugly cause of too much stress in their work and boss while the bad people who don't give a shit stay looking young and happy cause they don't care about things.

[startingfitness]

@alice55 no they are not. What you are talking about is the laws not rules, and you are using excuses to associate good with being a wimp. This isn't true at all.
Being good does not mean wimp and bad doesn't mean courageous. Plenty of bad wimps around.

Bad boys are not people who treat their friends and family well. if they did, then they would not be called bad they would be called good.
Good people actually treat their friends and family well and protect them and look out for them.

In my country and everywhere in the world we call good people the loyal ones who protect us and support us, whether against the law or not, and we call people bad when they are bad to us, abuse us and betray us. These are the rules among humans, it has nothing to do with the laws of the country.

You simply dont know the definition of good or bad, or rather, as many girls here do, you are making excuses for bad boys. They will never treat you well. see you later as a single mother.

[startingfitness]

@alice55 And i dont care what you think i am, lol. i never said i was good or decent. And i attract women, don't worry about that, i just don't attract the low iq ones, which i don't need anyway. Well unfortunately sometimes i do get those as well, but i try not to.

My only problem is that girls like you are choosing bad guys and thus enabling their antisocial behaviour. Don't try to convince me that bad boys are actually good, i know women like characters like christian grey and massimo and no man on earth would classify those guys as decent men. They are sociopaths. And because of women like you there are more of them. If women stopped dating these guys they would die out and we wouldn't have to deal with these idiots.

Also , you have no idea how many men (brothers and fathers) died because their daughter/sister got involved with a man like this. Or they killed the guy and end up in prison. All because some girls get attracted to bad men.

[MrsJaximus-Lion]

you forgot one thing! the man that bullies bad boys and make them look stupid that man is my man has a devilish attitude but inside he wouldn't harm a fly the man that will keep me safe respects me shows me love every day not a boy that can pull a good look and be good in bed , the man i have can make boys cry and make women drool and that is no story but its reality that am living for the last 12 years
those who ''love'' bad boys seems never met a real man because if they met a real man why would they choose boys like you described them

[Kaazsz]

When I was high school I got bullied. I was very poor, and my family had no way to wash our clothes. I was shy because I had been abused by my family and peers ever since 2nd or 3rd grade. I always believed until I was almost 28 years old that girls were not attracted to me. That I was a worthless sack of shit.

From 7th grade till 11th grade I was still bullied but I also was attacked and had to fight bullies. The "bad boys" that girls loved in high school were all bullying me. Calling me a faggot. Telling me girls don't like me and I could "never get pussy." Funnily enough, despite having zero friends my entire childhood and being dirty and smelly I still had 3 girlfriends in highschool.

Anyways, I used to fight. I used to get jumped. I was shy and quiet and kept to myself but the bullies and "bad boys" would attack me. I would beat their asses because I took karate when I was 8-12 and I was always very athletic kid so I was strong. Point is, I beat up my bullies. I fought grown ass men when i was 15-16 because my bullies would sick their adult brothers on me after I beat their asses. I got jumped by groups of bullies after school and they were still afraid of me even though it was just me vs them.

[Kaazsz]

So now I'm 34. Come to find out, around age 28-29 when I i came home from the military I became best friends with my younger sister. She told me many stories about girls who had crushes on me. About girls who would come by my apartment and would ask her about me. What I was doing, where I was. Girls told my sister they had crushes on me. I don't know why she never told me back then. I guess we were kind of enemies at the time.

So that's when I started to realize that I wasn't unattractive to girls and I wasn't a worthless sack of shit. That girls always liked me even from my earliest age. And I honestly think a big part of it was the fact that I was the toughest kid in my school. The bad boys and bullies weren't shit. And the girls knew it and saw me defend myself against multiple dudes and I still fucked them up. They were afraid of me. Sorry to toot my own horn. I know people on the internet get very upset to hear a guy tell a story that makes it sound like he is a badass. But I was a badass kid I fucked those motherfuckers up.

[Kaazsz]

Just because a guy is a "bad boy" doesn't make him a "real man." And I agree with what you said. Most girls would probably prefer a "real man" if only they were able to identify one.

[MrsJaximus-Lion]

@Kaazsz its ok and your story is similar to my mans story but add some religion to it too he is a christian but born and raised in the middle east in a muslim country. real men beat up bullies and help the weak.

[Billlewis]

Oh my goodness... may I please tell you that you are absolutely magnificent, Goddess? The world would be a much better place if there were more women who have your mindset regarding pussy free wimps like us.

[ManOnFire]

I have been fortunate to finally find a girl who hates bad boys. She is crazy about me as a decent man, and I'm crazy about her. She actually thinks about me, is concerned about me when I don't feel my best, loves romance, and has so far never once let me down. She has proven to me more than once that she is not like the other female simpletons who want men that are disrespectful to others. I have finally found a woman like me who has many of my own values.

Women - or girls I should say - who like bad asses don't even know what love or a true relationship is really about.

[PupinTheTurd]

You lucky son of a bitch. Lol

[SHREYASH007]

even my girl is similar kind of one man girl and I am also one girl man, suddenly got lucky.. hope people understand true love

[ManOnFire]

@SHREYASH007 High five, my friend.

[SHREYASH007]

high five bro

[Tonytoutouni123]

They probably are also attracted to bad boys on a purely sexual level.

[ManOnFire]

@Tonytoutouni123 True. But these are the same girls who will hate it when guys go after bitches.

[brennanhuff]

Interesting that women want a guy to be fun or bring the adventure when it seems like girls are often lacking it. Wanting a date, when a fun guy wants his girl out with him at a fun party with tons of people, getting wild and then maybe sneaking off after buzzed good and fucking her brains out. And having a memorable time with friends. Then again a guy doesn't have to be a bad boy, just be a funny, charming, witty with a nice dose of slight cocky but in a playful way humor and there's that nice edge that doesn't have to be a bad boy to attract dimes

[Petra150]

i can't really take posts that keep on glorifying those black sides of our mind as women. The crap about us preferring and beeing more attracted to bad boys, because if somthing inside us, that should be posetiv. And that genes from bad boys simply should bring humanity somthing good. Every post that quote us women , to be more a animal than a human simply make me sick, we'd all mannage to become great cultural and understanding creatures, in that contex there simply isn't room or space for loosers as bad boys and even less room for pathetic women who have a build to trybreast that makes them want to be subjected to these losers. Finally it pathetic to even mention that them who hopefully come up with a disagreement on this issue, are losers them self

[Elsa143]

I am not attracted to bad boys but I'm attracted to handsome, sweet and loyal guys.
Why are SOME women hypocrites?
They want bad guys because they're exciting and protect them.
Ironically, the same bad guy will cheat on her and show his power by Beating her.
These same bad boys have fucked up temperament. These women die for bad boys then will cry that he cheated on her. You can't have it both ways.

[thehorriblesheikh]

The bad boy is a fantasy of women and I think you meant to say the same thing. How you described bad boys though, such men do not exist, which is how usually all fantasies go, centered towards an unrealistic concept.

Thoughyoung men do try and be this fantasy to attract women, I did it as well. It worked, but while it is exciting for the woman to be with a bad boy, it is not exciting to be a bad boy. My rebelliousness, bad boy behavior, was the result of serious emotional issues that made me more attractive to teen girls, but those issues also made me unable to take life seriously. I wasted away the teenage years of my life ignoring my emotional issues, and eventually I was in depression. I became physically unfit and a complete mess, the women were nowhere around me then.

I'm glad I recovered from the mess I used to be, as this bad boy fantasy of teen girls is not worth one to satisfy.

[navyrobin]

Thank you for sharing, I don't think "bad boy" behavior should be encouraged as it is unhealthy for men and it makes mental illnesses look good

[GlitterFairy16]

I honestly don't care for "bad boys" guys who like to act all dark and mysterious make my eyes roll to the back of my head and cringe so hard my lip splits. Like get over yourself and quit the act. I want a man who can act like a responsible adult and take control of his shit without acting like a temperamental little bitch.

I much prefer good guys, the ones who work hard, treat people with respect and get on with their lifes not trying to be something he's not.

[just_legit1998]

Guys, this advice is literally better than this myTake. I'm not even going to mention the author because she's clearly not worth the energy, I hate dealing with sadists like her. Don't change how you love just because some random person is putting you down.

[Anonymous]

Sorry but i have no sympathy, as a man have been told all my life that its bad for me to do my thinking with my penis so naturally I am going to be critical of you if you do your thinking with your vagina.

Now you can cry and call me an incel for calling you out on your bullshit if it makes you feel better but it doesn't make you any less of a muppet.

[WowwGirl]

Awwww did him get his little feelings hurt by little ole me. Poor fragile guy So precious he attacks women.
P. s catch a dick I'm wowwgirl your nobody so have a nice day

[WowwGirl]

Muppet honey I'm a puppeteer

[just_legit1998]

@guffrus don't mind her, she's just trippin on herself cuz she insecure.

[Giga_Shlad]

Cringe.

[DWornock]

Basically, that is correct. Girls and women are attracted to super good looking, confident, sexy, athletic, smart guys. They have confidence because girls and women have always been easy for these guys. Therefore, for them, women are as common as sand. If a girl pretends not to be interested, these guys don't care because any day of they can find others that just as pretty that will drop their panties and it takes very little time, money, or effort. Married or single, it doesn't matter, provided a wife believes her husband will never know.

They are not mean to women. They are called bad boys because, for them, women have little value. They find them, fuck them a few times, dump them, and move on to the next pretty girl.

Nice guys are average guys. To have any chance, they have to treat a girl as special and they must invest a lot of time, money, and effort. Therefore, if they finally do find a girl, she is like a diamond; she is precious.

[HowAwkwardToBeAlive]

Society pushes a “bad boy is sexy” theme in movies and books so women grow up believing that it’s love when really that crap is toxic and it’s terrible!

It’s directly routed from unrequited love. I think it’s the fact that everyone can relate to rejection to the point where we sexualize it which is sad.

It comes from a place of insecurity because if you were confident then you’d know your worth and you’d know that you deserve someone who cares about you.

[certifiedalphafemale]

I agree.