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As a quintessential " Bad Boy," or at leat retired bad boy. I can tell you that everything she says is absolutely true, what she doesn't tell you is that, at least in my experience, bad boys don't get LTRs lot's of ONS's and flings and what not. But if you want a long term thing, it doesn't seem to work in your favor. I've had multiple girlfriends decide that once it's time to settle down, that I wasn't settling down material and find someone a bit more stable. Still friends with most of them but it's the other side of the coin.
I kinda doubt that. Or at least I think it is much easier for a guy who is fling material to get long term relationships than it is for a guy who is only boyfriend or husband material to get flings. I also suspect that most marriages involving girls who typically sleep with badboys but settle for a boring stable guy will fail miserably with the guy being fucked over in the end. So while you may not see it as ideal I think your situation is the better of the two.
@Bandit74 I am settled down now, but I had a few situations where I was dumped because she found someone she was serious about. But I certainly had a lot of fun.
„Research shows women are more attracted to masculine men“
Yes but it is very sad that being a „bad guy“ is linked to „being masculine“. For example: There is no need to beat someone to a pulp to be manly. Being able to defend is manly.. but unfortunately evolution has a different opinion on this and so do most women have subconsciously.
„We Want Their Sperm Not Them.“
that’s even worse for me to read. I would rather read: „we don’t only want they’re sperm, we also want to marry them“. But I am very grateful that you stated it so unambiguously because it is honest and helps me a lot to plan my future.
What sort of world do I live in when dudes that shop at Forever 21 are considered Bad Boys? Greasy Twinks are the new Bad Boy? And whats the point of a "Little Dangerous"? Leaving the seat up and not having an Insta makes you a Bad Boy? Holy Shit, the Emasculation is just too much to bare.
I'm good at emotional castration
@WowwGirl How does that even work.
Slow process
That is a good article, @WowwGirl.
Everything that you stated agreed with the published literature on the subject of human mating behaviour.
The article has either been researched well, or you have spent a lot of time studying and thinking about human mating behaviour.
Although what you wrote was correct, that does not take away the bitterness and resentment that built up during my teens and 20s when I experienced rejection after rejection, with a couple of betrayals and broken hearts as well.
Thirty years after I gave up the search, I still experience considerable schadenfreude when I see the consequences of a woman's poor choice of male company catch up with her.
One of the things that grinds my gears is when I hear a woman say that she is 'ready for a good man'.
She would have rejected such men when she was 20, but after 30 she goes looking for them.
Not interested. Why should good men be interested in her now?
I am my own man, and nobody's gonna tell me what to do, so what if being a sensitive guy makes me an incel? I'm not here to please anybody but myself, IDC if I attract no-one as I'm content with being genuinely nice to others.
I personally want to laugh and thank this myTake as now I know who's worth my time, and the author isn't one of them!
Love this. ❤️
@just_legit1998
You have a very good personality, keep that! Unfortunately, I suspect that a bad personality (being a „bad boy") was evolutionarily advantageous, and that therefore almost all women find bad boys more attractive on a purely sexual level. But it is not acceptable that you have to accept a disadvantage because you are not a "bad boy". A good personality should be rewarded and not punished.
I plan to do a very elaborate experiment one day to find out if all/almost all women find bad boys more attractive on a purely sexual level (even if many don't admit it) or if there are women who don't, and if so, how many.
I will then make a MyTake about it. Stay tuned
@Tonytoutouni123 Thank you!
being sensitive doesn't make you an incel, being a hateful self pitying lunatic is what makes someone an incel, you're not that at all, don't worry I'm sure the right woman will see you for the good hearted guy that you are
That’s integrity. Couldn’t agree more
I like my bad boys with a touch of Byronic. More a brooding poet than a brawler. Though the latter kind can defo be hot to check out from a distance.
🥂❤️🌼
@thisismyopinion would you ever wear turquoise jewelery?
@WowwGirl never.
@ThisIsMyOpinion thank you sir
Here's the thing
No one gives a rat's ass about your personality
If an Incel had the aforementioned "bad bot" personality traits or attributes he'd his ass kicked real bad.
It's ALL about looks.
Saying otherwise would make you a sick and delusional hypocrites
To deny this is to deny your very selves and your very nature
It's all about a good looking face and a fit body
If a guy lacks the first and has the other trait he's still undesirable to many of you.
If not then what explains the fact that so many incels are gymmaxed and still can't get a girl?
Because it goes like this
Face>Height>Body
It actually goes like this:
Body > Height Face > How deep his voice is
* Body > Height > Face > How deep his voice is
@navyrobin well i have a deep and manly voice. Look masculine and have an okay body
Why do girls at my college love this wimpy looking dude with fairer hair and an ectomorph body shape. He's stick thin. Looks like a pre teen and everyone is swooning over him. Whereas me a more masculine looking dude gets nothing.
He's deemed cute in a way. I guess he seems more young or something like that.
@screaming_doorknob As a guy who gets by told both men and women that I have a 'great body' and a 'handsome face', you're absolutely right. I only have to say hi to a girl and she is already interested. Can't say the same for other dudes I know in real life who are very succesful, intelligent, charismatic etc. Their flaws in the looks department makes them struggle with girls. 1 of them drowns his frustrations by going to the red light district.
@screaming_doorknob I guess with looking younger he also looks healthier and like he takes care of himself, which is why tons of women love the guys in BTS. I don't listen to k-pop but I know that most of the BTS fanbase are girls/women drooling over them, and they look super healthy and very young/flawless.
@navyrobin I'm healthy young and strong too. Buti guess my appearance gives off a threatening aura.
I've been told that I'm "scary and tough" looking. I guess you're right. They want a more boyish and cutie type of guy haha
@screaming_doorknob But that's only for younger girls, as they get older they'll be into guys like you for sure 100%
@navyrobin well... I've always looked slightly older than my actual age. I'd say by 2-3 years older. I remember once this girl accidentally bumped into mw on the school's hallway and one of my textbooks dropped on the ground. Excuse me sir she said as she picked up the textbook and gave it to me. I kinda cringed at that moment because the way how she acted was as if she was talking to a grown up man. Loo "sir" I felt so awkward and old at that moment haha
@screaming_doorknob LOL, that's amazing! I remember had a massive crush on this dude who went to my school, he was literally 14 and looked like a 30 year old. I'm not even joking, he was hairy as fuck and looked like a grown ass man. I guess it just depends on the girl, but the "younger looking" guys definitely tend to be more popular with girls
@navyrobin It's true that little girls feel threatened by tougher men and that it will change, but we might aswel not focus only on those. He's 22. Lot's of people around 18+. I don't know how he looks but it may have something to do with his appearance as that's usually it. Girls want a "Chad" not a "Jimmy".
@TruthBringer What I meant with younger = Girls in their 20s or so. When they hit their 30s they start to look for actual manly-looking guys
@navyrobin Hmm I disagree. Girls in their 20s do also look for older guys in their 20s. The girls I refered to feeling threatened are teenage girls under the age of 18. They usually tend to fall for the skinny dudes with no facial hair. It's around 18+ that they start to find facial hair attractive and more manly men.
@TruthBringer You don't have to agree with me, my opinions are based on experiences, just like your opinions are based on your own experiences. The point is that the older the girl gets the more she wants to date a more mature-looking guy unless she's a cougar, which is fine I'm not judging anyones taste
@navyrobin That I can agree with
@TruthBringer It's true either way, you can disagree and it'd still be the reality of the situation
@navyrobin can you follow me back please. I'd love to chat with you more about this "bad boys" and looks thing
@navyrobin Do becareful with what you call reality. Most people think that what they believe is reality, even though that may not be the case
@TruthBringer I know, but sometimes even you can "disagree" and it'll still be reality even if you deny it.
@screaming_doorknob Sure
Totally agree! Me and all my girl friends LOVE a bad boy lol! There is just something totally irresistible about them!
Good in bed too👍
Well, it beats ending up with a soy boy - beta male of a feminist with a flexible wrist. Women don't want some man that they would have to defend and provide for. Ladies, when it's questionable about who wears the panties in the situation, you aren't dealing with a real man.
Define "bad boy." Do you mean "bad boy" as in a dude who's simply assertive, confident and doesn't conform? If that's the case then yeah I totally understand that. I happen to like girls who are like that.
Or do you mean "bad boy" as in sociopathic, devoid of morals and violent? If that's what you mean... You're a fucking moron.
Most “bad boys” belong to the second category. Low empathy. Worthless partners.
@AsDaGask exactly. Bad guys are the BIGGEST TURN OFF. My crush was handsome as fuck but when I found out that he's a bad boy, all my respect for him FADED away
Important distinction, yes.
is far right considered attractive though?
Great Take. It should also be pointed Out that a guy could be a bad boy in some societies but not all.
Next tim🙂e
Great...
Technically there is two type of masculine, and the dark masculine is more well known. :)
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NobleMaleRoguishMale
The whole toxic masculinity is really stupid, being a man isn’t by any means evil. You do have to be careful with the “confident” types though they could just be trying to sleep with you so be cautious even if he does the whole “I live you” and all but, then wants to sleep with you the same night. Be careful ladies and find a good guy too even if he’s a little nervous.
The protecting part isn't bad boy though. Look at Gsp and how muscular he is lol. Choosing to have muscle shows you care about yourself psychologically cause it requires a lot of hard work. It's also really healthy to be muscular and work out everywhere including cardiovascular muscle work outs.
Also known as courage
According to you then I am a bad boy because I have a spine. Interesting!
I’ve met GSP in real life. Besides his appearance and his job he is the antithesis of everything she described above.
He’s the nicest guy in the world when he’s not doing his job (fighting).
Since he’s famous, rich and attractive plenty of women would bang him nice guy or not. But what she is describing above is being attracted to scumbags. It’s a different story.
@bluetoblack99 I'd bang him
Shit I'll pay for dinner
Yeah you are one of millions of girls who would do
that. Keep dreaming of winning that lotto ticket.
GSP is not a “bad boy” and I know from personal experience. He’s a sportsman. A violent gentlemen. He’s not a criminal or a douchebag. He’s actually socially awkward at times.
But I don’t waste my time dreaming of female celebrities. Yeah I would like to turn Ellen Page straight or even better hit it in a 3some. But the amount of time I’ll spend fantasizing about that is literally the 10 seconds it took to write this.
Be realistic.
Its funny how most bad boys just so happen to be generally goodlooking dudes (no homo). Are women attracted to the fact that they're bad or are they just rationalizing their bad behavior because of his good looks (also known as the Halo Effect)? Ever notice in Hollywood films, whenever they cast a man to play the "bad boy" role, he usually is goodlooking. Just my take on it and of course there are outliers here and there.
The problem with this is that women Do obtain their sperm and end up with fatherless children. Which is not as rare nowadays as it should be.
I don't know if this take was meant to attack the "nice guys", the only thing this take does is to make a good argument as to why women shouldn't be making decisions for themselves.
They're over rated... anyone claiming to be a bad boy is probably soft as f*ck! I'm laid back, quiet, play a lot of sports but whilst I get confrontational on the pitch am also the first to buy my opponent a beer after the game. I think I'm a good guy but don't think that makes me any less masculine, and I'd suggest anyone that has played sport/competed with me would agree. I'd hate to be described as a bad boy, that doesn't mean I'm a pushover.
"We Want Their Sperm Not Them."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Got a good laugh out of this one.
In the span of just my own lifetime, who would have ever imagined that someone would have to be in a public forum explaining why women prefer a masculine man? And expecting pushback on top of that!
The evil forces of darkness and civilization destroying thought control have really screwed with this generation's heads! God help us!
You're right
“We Want Their Sperm Not Them.”
Hit the nail right on the head. Flings, affairs, fuck-buddies, one night stands and a “Bad Boy” is perfect. But long term, women get fed up with or not longer desire all of the traits that make up “Bad Boys”.
That sucks for non bad boys who want some fun tho and don’t want to commit
@brennanhuff
And it leads the non bad boy to lose interest in getting into a relationship with a woman who has fucked bad boys in the past.
Sad news: probably every woman is sexually attracted to bad boys because it was evolutionary advantageous.
I am planning a very elaborate experiment to figure that out. I will then do a MyTake about it. Stay tuned 👌
As far as the fun part is concerned:
Problem: You don't have to be a bad boy to get many women into bed, but it's much easier if you are one. So one has a disadvantage because one is not an asshole and that's why it bothers me so much.
Solution: first, become very manly (for example go to the gym become assertive etc. but never change into a bad guy. Stay a good guy and then second: as soon as you are very manly it will be as simple as stealing candy from a baby to fake the Bad Boy image. For a beginner I would start with the following: Every time you want to hook up with a girl choose a place where it is easy to play the Bad Boy Image without the need to talk to much. go for example to a club and wear some „Bad Boy clothes“, put a cigarette in your mouth, drink jack Daniels and put on a sinister look and BOOOOOM you can fuck every girl from the club.
@Tonytoutouni123 I don't think it's easier if you're a bad boy. You just have to be assertive, but that's not a bad boy. I won't believe you have to be "aggressive and wild" which I see bad boys as being. You just have to have confidence and others things, which aren't uniquely bad boy trait. Yes many bad boys will have confidence, though many also have a fake confidence that's very much cockyness and arrogance. And good looking is not synonymous with bad boy either. There are bad boys who may look like models. But in my opinion. I believe a good dude who has an edge to him that;s good looking, witty and charming will do better than a bad boy. I don't feel I have to be manly or aggressive, just not be afraid to take chances or caring what people think. I have the wit and charm which I'm find. The struggle I had before was getting in the way of myself. Over thinking things. Once I stopped doing that, yes there are rejections, everybody gets rejected. But it wouldn't bother me and I knew I had the personality and looks to do well , but yet I'm not a bad boy. I know plenty of good dudes, who are my friends who got girls but they aren't bad boys, they were just handsome, confident guys that had some personality
I personally can never date a bad boy. Can't stand the thought of somebody being more dominant, more rebellious, more dangerous than me.
BRING ME A SUBMISSIVE GUY! 😦
Submissive it is