I fat shame everyone because being fat means you are unhealty and lazy. I can't understand people who approve of fat. Its like deliberatly not brushing your teeth and letting them rot.
People approve all sorts of unhealthy habits and lifestyles. I'm not into glorifying fatness but iffat people are more accepted in society, they will feel more encouraged to go out there and lose weight. You can't know when you look at a person if she is ill, just lazy or already working to change.
No I think people would actually eat healthier and exercise if forced to do it. Sugar coating it doesn't help. You are right I can't know why person is fat but in most cases is because they are lazy, they eat a lot of junk food and dont care about their health or looks. I cannot respect that, sorry. Unless they have some sickness or are in the process of loosing weight and getting healthier.
@StrawberryCream accepting and glorifying and accommodating fat people makes them feel like its okay to be unhealthy and putting your life at risk and makes them even more entitled. And entitledness is not going to get respect because you can't demand it, you'll have to earn it. If they have some medical problems, then they have my full sympathy. Go watch the TLC show 'my big fat fabulous life' look at her whining and crying, he excuse is her having PSU, and many women with PSU have come forward calling her out on her crap because they didn't get morbidly obese, because they worked hard to fight against it.
@TheFriendlyOne Thank you, you nicely explained my point. And 'shaming' is not the same as 'making fun of someone', I could never make fun of anyone. I just know that being obese is VERY unhealthy and let's be honest, very unattractive. Everybody likes fit people not because the shape of their body but because our unconscious part of brain is telling us that that fit person is healthy. Back in stone age obese people were eliminated by natural selection. If I see a man or a women fat as this woman on the picture, I can't help but thinking 'what the hell is wrong with her, how can she live like that?'. It tells a lot about her personality as well. I don't shame only fat people, smokers, drug addicts and all people who so easily and without a drop of guilt are destroying their bodies like that are also to blame. But what I'm mostly surprised is how other girls commented on this post, it's unbelievable.
Because skinny white women are the symbol of hotness according to tv. They often are put down as sexy, even though there are curvy women! LIKE ME! Who are maybe WAY better looking than these skinny model dolls. sorry for saying that, but it is stupid! and I dont let ANYONE call me fat.
What does race have to do with this, and everyone apart from liberal bubble already knows that the extreme skinny models aren't the standard, no men that I have interacted with over the ears found those aneroxic, just bones women hot.
With all due respect, race has nothing to do with being fit, you based on your avatar look like a gorgeous women that would make men drop their jaws to the floor. And if men are telling you that they don't find you attractive because you aren't skin and bones, then you are unfortunately in the wrong group of people.
Because framing someone else as less desirable will give the women in question a feeling of having the upper-hand. The whole idea of competition in the dating world and how evolution hardwired both genders to develop tactics that make themselves seem more desirable to mate with than others would explain why there's more shaming within genders (so woman on woman) versus women against men, too.
Jaleousy and because when you feel like super crap it's better to make feel people like crap around you so that you can look better, so that you can feel better.
But it's superficial when you are alone you feel like crap.
For the same reason we men fat shame other men - it's not good to be fat. And yes, I got fat shamed too when I was a fatty.
I find it funny that a lot of people think it's jealousy. Usually people get jealous when someone is better off than they are - more money, more popular, funnier , better looking etc. But being jealous because someone's fat? That's like someone with money being jealous of someone else because they're poor - makes no sense.
They get a kick out of it. But let's be clear, being overweight shouldn't be culturally acceptable - for the same reason that untreated athlete's foot shouldn't be socially acceptable. No, it doesn't really affect others, but leaving one's body in an unhealthy state is unsanitary and bad role modeling.
I don't fat shame so I wouldn't know why people do it. I guess it depends on people's opinions of fat. For me fat is when someone doesn't take care of them selves properly, but "big" women is something I don't fat shame. If someone is bigger but healthy there is a difference.
It's pretty sad that we have come to the point where we feel better about are self s when we have to insult others for how there look There's a saying here in the UK what goes around comes around ie If u insult others somewhere down the line your going to get it back ten fold. so if u have nothing good to say about anyone say nothing a keep quiet then u will not get hurt by insulting remarks it's that simple.
I'm fat and it's never bother me in anyway I'm happy in my own skin I can't do with people telling me what I should look like or to slim down cos it's bad for me I am who I am and I don't give a flying fcuk what other people think of me
It may be your choice but it doesn't mean it is any less healthy. I'm not here to tell you to stop being who you are, you have the right to be who you are. I'm only stating my opinion... one based on scientific research
I don't know either way women of size are loved too so it won't take anything away from them. But I say as long as its not doing anything to anyone else dont worry ab them, its annoying to see people feed into something that has nothing to do with them
They want to feel better about themselves insecurity jealousy we tend to look at our selfs and compare it to other women oh what does she have that I don't have or I have this and she doesn't I find that we can be critical of our body because social media wants us to see beauty as this or that and it hurts the younger generation they will look at it see a trend and try to follow it like the eyebrows thing that looks square in the front and a bit faded eye lashes and so on
What do you see as fat shaming? If someone overweight asks me about my opinion, I'd say that trying to achieve a healthy weight would be better for both her/his body and soul. Not in some matter of attractivenes, a woman with "more meat" can be attractive as well, but she'll have a higher risk of several hearth- and other diseases. I do not go to strangers and telling them that without being asked though.
Fat-acceptance is pretty dangerous in my opinion though. Its like telling an alcoholic who tries to get rid of this addiction that he has to accept him self just as he is. Both, overweight (especially obesity) and alcoholism are dangerous for our health. So why is it socially accepting to tell a alcoholic or a smoker to quit, but not telling somewho with overweight to do something good for his body?
Most "members" of fat-acceptance are shaming thinner women without even noticing it by the way. Saying thinks like "only dogs are playing with bones" can hurt just as well as calling anyone a whale.
Exactly right. I'm rather skinny and have been told in a past that I won't ever find a man because I'm not a real woman. Is that skinny shamming or just plain jealousy? Besides, heavier people need to think beyond attractiveness and focus on health.
@PinkishPink I think, as long as someone isn't extremely underweight (which is just as unhealthy as being extremely obese) its mostly jealousy infact... if you have a normal weight and people are still saying that, then that just shows how fucked up our society has become... we see slightly overweight people as normal, and those who have a lower normalweight-bmi (which is the healthiesst one) as too thin.
Fat shaming is a huge part of society and just like people don't like others because of there race or where they come from, people also don't like others for being over weight. Another thing is that in society women are put in competition with other women from a very young age, which is also why women often get along better with men
Because women and men are generally (not always) in competition with members of the same sex to find a partner. As such, pointing out someone's flaws is a logical choice to increase your chances. Its not a nice thing to do in every case, but it makes sense. Aren't biological imperatives wonderful.
Chubby dudes get the same kind of shit for the same reason, but most of the fat guys I know could kick anyone's ass six ways to Sunday so they didn't really give a shit what anyone called them.
I want believe it's competition among other women but they're not so direct like men. It's a common trait that women don't want direct confrontation, so they'll take an indirect approach. In this case, whittle down the other girl from the inside so she doesn't have the confidence to be competition.
Personally I think it has to do with seeing something in that woman that you are jealous of. Whether its the way she carries herself, her personality, her smile or her eyes. It could be anything. And it makes that person feel better about themselves. I don't understand it - its so much easier to bring a woman up, compliment her, then it is to bring her down
Well, I don't think it has to do with the gender... I would like to respond with another question. Why is society making it ok to be fat and unhealthy? That's the easy way to live, it's awesome to accept the lifestyles of people eating too much or just being lazy and not praise the efforts fit people make to stay healthy in a world surrounded with junk food. In addition, having people say it's ok to be fat...
I agree with this. It isn't right to let people live an unhealthy lifestyle. And we should really encourage people to eat healthy. But shaming them isn't acceptable.
Seriously? Who put any of you in charge. I mean I'm not Christian or nothing but didn't we get given free will? So on that basis who gives a flying fragnod who is what.. The real question is why don't people keep their opinions to them selves instead of trying to put there opinions as laws and force people to live the way that they see fit. I mean as long as you are happy with yourself in life that's all that matters fat or skinny. I know people who can't get fat and people who can't get skinny. It doesn't make a difference because inside those shells is a human being and we need to treat that inner human as we would want to be treated
Exactly, we have free will, therefore can express our opinions. Who are you to decide what people can or can't put an opinion on? Besides, we didn't even say it was a good thing to shame people for their looks, get over your "high moral" ground. Your no saint yourself...
I missed the Sainthood. Did I get appointment to Saint? Someone should throw a party.
Your wording and the wording in the reply before show that in all cases 8ts lazy and unhealthy to be fat.. "who let's them be like that" "educate them" homie I know a 400lb fat guy right now that will work harder than any skinny person I know. He's an ox but a healthy one.
🤔 yeah I see what your trying to say, but not all fat/skinny people have that problem that is out of their hands to fix. Some are genuinely lazy, and if they are I really don't give a shit. It's praising people "oh your so brave to accept how you look" when the person is just, again, lazy...
I guess different strokes for different folks. If we made every one healthy the suicide rate would go up because chubby chasers like. Myself would have to commit suicide... Js
We are free as paople to live our life as we wish to. A lot of people do unhealthy things but society is not responsible, individual is. Society already encourages us to ve healthy, work hard, not to use drugs etc. But we make our own decisions. You people saying it's wrong to let people live like this, is like a parent saying to teen that it's wrong to drink alcohol when they are young. They might do it anyways.
Firstly there is no reason to be so oversensitive about this whole thing. Secondly, nobody is forcing you to change yourself. All we are trying to say is if a person seeks help and WANTS TO lose weight then we should definitely encourage them and help them out. N even if they fail to achieve a target there's no reason to be hard on them really. Bcz I understand it's not simple... It requires a lot of inner strength and will power. But it's definitely not impossible. Thirdly, nobody here said that fat people are less efficient. They are in no way less than any other person. But it is scientifically proven that a healthy life will increase your life expectancy. (Unless the most healthiest person gets hit by a truck or something)
However, if those people don't think so far into the future it's totally upto them. Nobody can judge anybody really. It's only for our benefit that we are talking about it. And nobody said anything about trying to fit in or be skinny.
Just about eating healthy and living healthy. Like they say don't live to eat but eat to live.
And like someone mentioned above it's not just about obesity, even everything else... It's simple. It's all about being cautious and treasuring this life that you have. Try to do everything right... and Making sure you correct what u did wrong cz in the end it's all about growth. That's why we r humans!
Again nobody here is trying to belittle anybody. I personally want to be helped in case I ever need it. And I will be glad to those who come to my aid. Likewise, some don't want it. N they are free to live that way. NOBODY IS FORCING YOU.
I personally believe that girls who fat shame other people usually care really much about looks, most commonly because that is the only thing they've got going for them, this often makes them feel insecure and jealous of other people, so you should just remember, when somebody shames you, you should feel sorry for them and not for yourselves girls.
How about instead of saying being fat, having heart disease, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, and loads of other deadly diseases, we encourage them to lose weight and not stand by and compliment people that are bound to die 20 years prematurely?
because of jealousy. if a girl calls another girl fat, overweight, obese, too large, etc, she's almost 100% jealous that the girl is probably skinnier than her and wants to lower the girl's self esteem because of jealousy. but if a guy calls a girl anything that relates to "you're fat", it's downright disrespectful
it's kinda the same reason guys shit talk each other, because of jealousy and "competition"
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I fat shame everyone because being fat means you are unhealty and lazy. I can't understand people who approve of fat. Its like deliberatly not brushing your teeth and letting them rot.
People approve all sorts of unhealthy habits and lifestyles. I'm not into glorifying fatness but iffat people are more accepted in society, they will feel more encouraged to go out there and lose weight.
You can't know when you look at a person if she is ill, just lazy or already working to change.
No I think people would actually eat healthier and exercise if forced to do it. Sugar coating it doesn't help. You are right I can't know why person is fat but in most cases is because they are lazy, they eat a lot of junk food and dont care about their health or looks. I cannot respect that, sorry. Unless they have some sickness or are in the process of loosing weight and getting healthier.
@little_bird1 I completely agree with you
@StrawberryCream accepting and glorifying and accommodating fat people makes them feel like its okay to be unhealthy and putting your life at risk and makes them even more entitled.
And entitledness is not going to get respect because you can't demand it, you'll have to earn it.
If they have some medical problems, then they have my full sympathy.
Go watch the TLC show 'my big fat fabulous life' look at her whining and crying, he excuse is her having PSU, and many women with PSU have come forward calling her out on her crap because they didn't get morbidly obese, because they worked hard to fight against it.
@TheFriendlyOne Thank you, you nicely explained my point. And 'shaming' is not the same as 'making fun of someone', I could never make fun of anyone. I just know that being obese is VERY unhealthy and let's be honest, very unattractive. Everybody likes fit people not because the shape of their body but because our unconscious part of brain is telling us that that fit person is healthy. Back in stone age obese people were eliminated by natural selection. If I see a man or a women fat as this woman on the picture, I can't help but thinking 'what the hell is wrong with her, how can she live like that?'. It tells a lot about her personality as well. I don't shame only fat people, smokers, drug addicts and all people who so easily and without a drop of guilt are destroying their bodies like that are also to blame.
But what I'm mostly surprised is how other girls commented on this post, it's unbelievable.
Because skinny white women are the symbol of hotness according to tv. They often are put down as sexy, even though there are curvy women! LIKE ME! Who are maybe WAY better looking than these skinny model dolls. sorry for saying that, but it is stupid! and I dont let ANYONE call me fat.
What does race have to do with this, and everyone apart from liberal bubble already knows that the extreme skinny models aren't the standard, no men that I have interacted with over the ears found those aneroxic, just bones women hot.
With all due respect, race has nothing to do with being fit, you based on your avatar look like a gorgeous women that would make men drop their jaws to the floor. And if men are telling you that they don't find you attractive because you aren't skin and bones, then you are unfortunately in the wrong group of people.
Really race
Because framing someone else as less desirable will give the women in question a feeling of having the upper-hand. The whole idea of competition in the dating world and how evolution hardwired both genders to develop tactics that make themselves seem more desirable to mate with than others would explain why there's more shaming within genders (so woman on woman) versus women against men, too.
Yo @kaylaS91
Jaleousy and because when you feel like super crap it's better to make feel people like crap around you so that you can look better, so that you can feel better.
But it's superficial when you are alone you feel like crap.
Solve your fucking issues, its what it means.
For the same reason we men fat shame other men - it's not good to be fat. And yes, I got fat shamed too when I was a fatty.
I find it funny that a lot of people think it's jealousy. Usually people get jealous when someone is better off than they are - more money, more popular, funnier , better looking etc. But being jealous because someone's fat? That's like someone with money being jealous of someone else because they're poor - makes no sense.
They get a kick out of it. But let's be clear, being overweight shouldn't be culturally acceptable - for the same reason that untreated athlete's foot shouldn't be socially acceptable. No, it doesn't really affect others, but leaving one's body in an unhealthy state is unsanitary and bad role modeling.
I don't fat shame so I wouldn't know why people do it. I guess it depends on people's opinions of fat. For me fat is when someone doesn't take care of them selves properly, but "big" women is something I don't fat shame. If someone is bigger but healthy there is a difference.
It's pretty sad that we have come to the point where we feel better about are self s when we have to insult others for how there look
There's a saying here in the UK what goes around comes around ie
If u insult others somewhere down the line your going to get it back ten fold. so if u have nothing good to say about anyone say nothing a keep quiet then u will not get hurt by insulting remarks it's that simple.
Yes let's encourage people to live unhealthy lives! I get a bit of weight but to be fat is bad and anyone who defends it is an idiot
I'm fat and it's never bother me in anyway I'm happy in my own skin I can't do with people telling me what I should look like or to slim down cos it's bad for me I am who I am and I don't give a flying fcuk what other people think of me
It may be your choice but it doesn't mean it is any less healthy. I'm not here to tell you to stop being who you are, you have the right to be who you are. I'm only stating my opinion... one based on scientific research
I don't know either way women of size are loved too so it won't take anything away from them. But I say as long as its not doing anything to anyone else dont worry ab them, its annoying to see people feed into something that has nothing to do with them
They want to feel better about themselves insecurity jealousy we tend to look at our selfs and compare it to other women oh what does she have that I don't have or I have this and she doesn't I find that we can be critical of our body because social media wants us to see beauty as this or that and it hurts the younger generation they will look at it see a trend and try to follow it like the eyebrows thing that looks square in the front and a bit faded eye lashes and so on
What do you see as fat shaming? If someone overweight asks me about my opinion, I'd say that trying to achieve a healthy weight would be better for both her/his body and soul. Not in some matter of attractivenes, a woman with "more meat" can be attractive as well, but she'll have a higher risk of several hearth- and other diseases.
I do not go to strangers and telling them that without being asked though.
Fat-acceptance is pretty dangerous in my opinion though. Its like telling an alcoholic who tries to get rid of this addiction that he has to accept him self just as he is. Both, overweight (especially obesity) and alcoholism are dangerous for our health. So why is it socially accepting to tell a alcoholic or a smoker to quit, but not telling somewho with overweight to do something good for his body?
Most "members" of fat-acceptance are shaming thinner women without even noticing it by the way. Saying thinks like "only dogs are playing with bones" can hurt just as well as calling anyone a whale.
Exactly right. I'm rather skinny and have been told in a past that I won't ever find a man because I'm not a real woman. Is that skinny shamming or just plain jealousy?
Besides, heavier people need to think beyond attractiveness and focus on health.
@PinkishPink I think, as long as someone isn't extremely underweight (which is just as unhealthy as being extremely obese) its mostly jealousy infact... if you have a normal weight and people are still saying that, then that just shows how fucked up our society has become... we see slightly overweight people as normal, and those who have a lower normalweight-bmi (which is the healthiesst one) as too thin.
Fat shaming is a huge part of society and just like people don't like others because of there race or where they come from, people also don't like others for being over weight. Another thing is that in society women are put in competition with other women from a very young age, which is also why women often get along better with men
Or you can stop being fat
Because women and men are generally (not always) in competition with members of the same sex to find a partner. As such, pointing out someone's flaws is a logical choice to increase your chances. Its not a nice thing to do in every case, but it makes sense. Aren't biological imperatives wonderful.
Chubby dudes get the same kind of shit for the same reason, but most of the fat guys I know could kick anyone's ass six ways to Sunday so they didn't really give a shit what anyone called them.
I want believe it's competition among other women but they're not so direct like men. It's a common trait that women don't want direct confrontation, so they'll take an indirect approach. In this case, whittle down the other girl from the inside so she doesn't have the confidence to be competition.
Personally I think it has to do with seeing something in that woman that you are jealous of. Whether its the way she carries herself, her personality, her smile or her eyes. It could be anything. And it makes that person feel better about themselves.
I don't understand it - its so much easier to bring a woman up, compliment her, then it is to bring her down
Well, I don't think it has to do with the gender... I would like to respond with another question. Why is society making it ok to be fat and unhealthy? That's the easy way to live, it's awesome to accept the lifestyles of people eating too much or just being lazy and not praise the efforts fit people make to stay healthy in a world surrounded with junk food. In addition, having people say it's ok to be fat...
I agree with this.
It isn't right to let people live an unhealthy lifestyle.
And we should really encourage people to eat healthy.
But shaming them isn't acceptable.
Yes, the shaming part is inmoral, forgot to put that in my answer, don't want to give the wrong impression.
Seriously? Who put any of you in charge. I mean I'm not Christian or nothing but didn't we get given free will? So on that basis who gives a flying fragnod who is what.. The real question is why don't people keep their opinions to them selves instead of trying to put there opinions as laws and force people to live the way that they see fit. I mean as long as you are happy with yourself in life that's all that matters fat or skinny. I know people who can't get fat and people who can't get skinny. It doesn't make a difference because inside those shells is a human being and we need to treat that inner human as we would want to be treated
Exactly, we have free will, therefore can express our opinions. Who are you to decide what people can or can't put an opinion on? Besides, we didn't even say it was a good thing to shame people for their looks, get over your "high moral" ground. Your no saint yourself...
I missed the Sainthood. Did I get appointment to Saint? Someone should throw a party.
Your wording and the wording in the reply before show that in all cases 8ts lazy and unhealthy to be fat.. "who let's them be like that" "educate them" homie I know a 400lb fat guy right now that will work harder than any skinny person I know. He's an ox but a healthy one.
🤔 yeah I see what your trying to say, but not all fat/skinny people have that problem that is out of their hands to fix. Some are genuinely lazy, and if they are I really don't give a shit. It's praising people "oh your so brave to accept how you look" when the person is just, again, lazy...
I guess different strokes for different folks. If we made every one healthy the suicide rate would go up because chubby chasers like. Myself would have to commit suicide... Js
We are free as paople to live our life as we wish to. A lot of people do unhealthy things but society is not responsible, individual is. Society already encourages us to ve healthy, work hard, not to use drugs etc. But we make our own decisions. You people saying it's wrong to let people live like this, is like a parent saying to teen that it's wrong to drink alcohol when they are young. They might do it anyways.
Glad to not be alone in my little sinking boat any longer ;)
Firstly there is no reason to be so oversensitive about this whole thing.
Secondly, nobody is forcing you to change yourself.
All we are trying to say is if a person seeks help and WANTS TO lose weight then we should definitely encourage them and help them out.
N even if they fail to achieve a target there's no reason to be hard on them really.
Bcz I understand it's not simple... It requires a lot of inner strength and will power.
But it's definitely not impossible.
Thirdly, nobody here said that fat people are less efficient.
They are in no way less than any other person.
But it is scientifically proven that a healthy life will increase your life expectancy. (Unless the most healthiest person gets hit by a truck or something)
However, if those people don't think so far into the future it's totally upto them.
Nobody can judge anybody really.
It's only for our benefit that we are talking about it.
And nobody said anything about trying to fit in or be skinny.
Just about eating healthy and living healthy.
Like they say don't live to eat but eat to live.
And like someone mentioned above it's not just about obesity, even everything else... It's simple.
It's all about being cautious and treasuring this life that you have.
Try to do everything right... and
Making sure you correct what u did wrong cz in the end it's all about growth. That's why we r humans!
Again nobody here is trying to belittle anybody.
I personally want to be helped in case I ever need it. And I will be glad to those who come to my aid.
Likewise, some don't want it. N they are free to live that way.
NOBODY IS FORCING YOU.
I personally believe that girls who fat shame other people usually care really much about looks, most commonly because that is the only thing they've got going for them, this often makes them feel insecure and jealous of other people, so you should just remember, when somebody shames you, you should feel sorry for them and not for yourselves girls.
How about instead of saying being fat, having heart disease, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, and loads of other deadly diseases, we encourage them to lose weight and not stand by and compliment people that are bound to die 20 years prematurely?
I meant to put "is okay" after the "loads of other deadly diseases" comment.
because of jealousy. if a girl calls another girl fat, overweight, obese, too large, etc, she's almost 100% jealous that the girl is probably skinnier than her and wants to lower the girl's self esteem because of jealousy. but if a guy calls a girl anything that relates to "you're fat", it's downright disrespectful
it's kinda the same reason guys shit talk each other, because of jealousy and "competition"
Orrrr you're not jealous and that person is just fat
Or skinny. Don't need to be jealous to have perception of others
I don’t fat shame, I’m not wired that way.
Pretty sure overweight people know they are overweight, don’t need others to point it out to them.