Why do women fat shame other women?
I would like to point out that there's a difference between obese and fat. Obese shaming, is OK in my book, fat shaming is too vague. For the record, you are at risk for all of those diseases and heart conditions if you are OBESE, not fat, as I will demonstrate.
We can't just eyeball a person and tell if they're unhealthy fat (high bmi/obese) or that's just their natural body shape, but they're medically healthy (moderate bmi, fit). So most of us just blanket-shame fat people. You have to understand that having a fat body has absolutely no correlation with fitness and health.
I was a chubby Asian kid in high school, not 'fat' but getting closer to it at 5'5" and 150lb. Plenty of others were lighter and more fit-looking. When it came time to test our fitness levels as mandated by state/federal laws, I put performed the vast majority of the others in my year. I ran a 6.5 min mile-run, (avg was 9:00 for my year), managed 90 push-ups (second highest), and took first place for sit-ups (325). When we tested our bmi, I was on the low end, at ~20. For those of you who don't know, that means my body weight was 20% fat. Obese is generally accepted as 35, slightly obese as 30, healthy 20-25. For the record, Asians have different genetics that automatically boost any bmi by about 5 points, so I was actually at about 25% by Asian bmi standards, still healthy.
Now, what does that all mean? I was a chubby kid, but damn if I couldn't kick your ass with those muscles under my fat coat all the same. After I got my fat levels tested at my doctor's later that year, we found that despite my weight, I had one of the most healthy fat levels he had ever seen in someone my age.
So yeah, looking fat doesn't mean you're at-risk; that's obese. All the same, you can't tell if someone is fat or obese with a glance, unless they're the type that look to be on the verge of a heart attack. My opinion is that if shaming obesity saves lives, do it, but that's not feasible. My take is that I'll point it out to someone I know well maybe just once or twice, but a stranger can have a heart attack not 5 minutes after I meet them, as long as their greasy chicken leg/barf doesn't land on my shoes.
I understand that some people want to crusade against some bad thing like unhealthy fat levels, but they have to realize at some point that they can't take responsibility for everyone. Those people made a choice to continue as they were and you did them the favor of pointing it out, however dubious the motives are.
Women try to push their insecurities on other women it does not stop at fat shaming. So just avoid listening to negative people. If they're friends cut them off because they're useless if they can't accept you the way you are. Real friends motivate you.
Fat women should be shamed. They're unhealthy. Unless they have a thyroid problem or other health issue, there is no excuse to treat their bodies that way!
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BystanderSyndrome, shaming people is not an effective way to confront people about a "health" issue. It actually has the opposite effect. It's an attitude of hate, that causes people to give up.
No one deserves any less love or value, as a person, because of a physical attribute. Why send that kind of a message to people? "You'll only be loved and accepted, if you lose weight."
Feeling like you have value regardless, is much more encouraging to a person, and far more motivating to encourage a person to live a healthier lifestyle.
Plus, the way a person looks, doesn't always represent their healthiness. There are thin people who are unhealthy, and there are people, that some would consider as fat, by common standards, who are actually healthy.
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Standards, jealousy, insecurities, etc. I can definitely say it’s something I hate. I once was all skin and bones until after I graduated high school and I’ve continued to gain more weight mainly in my legs but of course that weight distributed to other places such as my stomach and arms which makes me look a little unflattering and now I have to work to lose that and it’s not as easy as social media portrays. Due to this, I absolutely hate seeing slimmer girls fat shame bigger girls who are on the thicker side for not having a slim waist especially when these girls are all breaking there backs trying to look thick in photos. Everybody wants to be thick but nobody wants the other stuff that comes with it and due to social media, the only time “thickness” is acceptable is if your stomach is flat or someone never experienced excess fat and body came strictly from lifting.
I’m not fat but I’m definitely bigger than I was a year ago. 1st pic was around February 2016. Second is last Saturday
u are such a sweet person dont worry about others they are just jealous of u because they can't have tempting body like u thats why just ignore them i am also a healthy girl but i dont pay attention what other says leave all that just live ur life peacefully
Of the handful of opinions I've read a lot of them mentioned health issues. This is fair and true. Being overweight or obese heightens the risks of heart disease, high blood pressure which leads to strokes, diabetes, bad hips and knees and a whole list of other issues.
But let's be honest now, the women that judge or ridicule women about their weight aren't doing it to be noble and becuase they're concerned about that woman's health. Let's go ahead and cut that shit right now.
Again though, let be honest about this, women shame skinny girls too. Bigger girls aren't the only ones that get shamed.
I can't say for sure why women do this, but I strongly believe it could be jealous and stems from insecurities about themselves. I believe 99% of women are insecure, and judging and shaming someone else they believe to be less than they are makes them feel better and superior.
I can't say for sure but that's my best guess.
Bullshit someone I know is skinny and still got health issues so tf you talking about
@angelica453 I don't recall saying skinny people don't have health issues.
I said being overweight/obese increases risks of health issues, meaning versus women of average weight. NEVER said skinny women have no issues, did I?
People who fat shame or do any shaming are narrow minded. They just make assumptions that every fat person sits on the couch 24/7 stuffing their face. They don't care enough to learn that people have different metabolisms And medical conditions that might make it hard to not gain weight. Even digestion issues or medication side effects cause weigh gain. Some people can eat crap and not worry about a thing while another person eating the same thing would balloon up. It makes fat shammers feel good about themselfs to put fat people down. It makes them feel like they are better.
Has to do with jealousy and insecurities, but there's no need to shame any woman whether their bodies are bigger or petite. Clearly if you don't have anything good to say when it comes to fat shaming, you should keep your comments to yourself.
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If I understand correctly you mean girls being overweight by 17 kilos is a positive thing?
First of all you can't just put a number on it. Girls that are 155cm tall and 180cm tall, means that 17 kgs on them will look way different. Cause for one a healthy weight be about 55kg and the other about 80kg, so the bodyfat would look way different if you just at 17kg.
Second being overweight isn't good for anybody. Not because esthetics but because of their health and the unhealthy lifestyle that comes with it.
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I probably will get hate for this but anyways.
I'll start off by saying that fat shaming isn't only a bad thing, it is also a good thing. I'll explain.
In today's society, we have a lot of obese people which we always praise and tell the " shamers " to f**K off but do you know that your " praising " is actually gonna cost them probably their life? Being fat isn't anything to be proud of and the more we encourage the " fat " people and tell them how excellent they look and all that stuff, the more they will be like " Ah to hell with changing, everyone likes me! " and at the end, diseases such as heart attack and so on most probably will be the consequence. I've read many stories online and also my close friends who were fat and after getting fat shamed they hit the gym and turned their life around or basically they got INSPIRED. Wish I could post their picture and you could see their amazing transformation.
Also to mention that people nowadays get offended very easily. People can't tell the " fat " people the truth in fear of getting publicly shamed and having their faces and names plastered online and make a movie out of them.
What I have written above is directed towards the people who don't control their diet and eat anything they want anytime they want and It was NOT directed at people who have sickness such as thyroid and so on which causes fatness or in other words, the fatness which isn't voluntary.
Agree with the general point of this but a lot of the time when people fat shame they don't actually know if there fat because of health problems or not
Women generally insult other femalea just so they can feel better about thwmselves.
Insulting a person because of how they look is a hollow, selfish self confidence "booster", by hurting or embarrasing a girl who is heavier the other female feels justified in her own looks.
Then again... some people are genuinely rude disgusting people and waste our air by even existing & they take true pleasure in seeing other people hurt but only by their doing.
I see one rude person on here... although being fat is not attractive it is a health problem for many people, overweight people are no more a burden to a health system than the vegan parents who accidentally cause the malnutrition of their children due to poor diet, or the morons who exercise to the point of hispitalization, or the people who insist on visiting foreign lands that are known for illnesses & then bring them back home.
So to the rude guy up top... the health system is made to remedy all health related issues and no one group of people or specific health issue is a sole burden to the system...
I think the fact is, lifestyle is a matter of choice, and one has full control over the way they live. So if someone is fat because they're okay with not being thin or look fit, it's completely their choice. Difference is that if I'm a person who cares about my body, I may end up thinking if not commenting over people who live differently.
Coming to your questions, I do feel that there are plenty women who admire their physique and probably dislike a person who doesn't want to feel good about themselves. Truth is, they may be okay with being fat, but the shaming part may put them through self doubt. This is also because of a tiny Superiority complex either gender has. But in girls, the physical complex is a bit more of a vocal thing, whereas most guys are relaxed about it. That's also because guys would probably fat shame other guys in a joking manner than in an offensive manner.
Again, it may sound subjective, but I saw the pattern through my entire schooling and uni, so it's what I noticed.
It's the other way around as well. I got a new job and I was constantly shamed about the fact that I look so skinny and my work clothes didn't even fit. They made fun of me so much for that, that I quit after working there for only a few days. It was unbearable. I acted like I was fine about it in the beginning, but it really got me mad after a few days. People are shit, we just have to accept that. Try to be the best you can towards other people, no matter their size, height, color, ethnicity, gender etc. So far, I have only acted in a shitty way towards people who did the same to me first, even as a kid.
Although it's unhealthy being overweight , I'd never ridicule or insult anyone for their shape or size. Whether they are fat or skinny. It's not in my nature to intentionally insult people's appearance. Fat shaming is just an excuse to be an asshole or bitch. It's a form of bullying.
So, sometimes i see a lady so fat, that i can't even see the person, i just see fat. Ripping the arm sleeves, tugging at the hips, those poor tiny feet that carry that around, and she has a second head hanging below her face thats supposed to be her chin. It honestly makes me sad bc I don't know how someone gets to that point whether it be a disease or bad habits. But if i looked that bad, i wish i had someone who cared enough to help me, encourage me that that isn't my best. Im on the heavier side I've always been a size 9-14 usually but i dont feel like myself on the larger sizes or ill fitting clothes bc my waist can't squeeze in a cute top or pants. We all have to do our best esp. As a woman and we dont need our own weight to be pulling us down from all the people and influences that stop us from achieving more. A healthy woman is a strong woman.
A healthy women will still die healthy who gives a fuck she prob might be full of stds too
Who said anything about stds lol
Why not shame them? Being fat is against everything a human bring should be doing. You waste food (indirectly causing global warming), get less productive, you're not efficient and it's not healthy either.
I think it should be greatly discouraged. Ofcourse there are limits to that, as always, but I also think people should stop glorifying fat people. People being "happy with their body" is insane when it causes them to die earlier and all the other stuff I pointed out earlier.
I know this is an inpopular opinion and I might receive shit for this, but it's got to be said. If you are fat, you saw this coming from miles away; fix yourself or get professional help. Whatever you do, don't go crying later, you brought this upon yourself.
Please try to keep in mind that obesity is partly genetic. The genetic component is not something that a person can just "fix".
@TallAnon According to you the answer is to shame them. What you are indirectly saying is you do not want them to love themselves or even like themselves. That can cause them to be depressed, withdrawn from society, lose their job because they do not think they are good enough to do it and so on to the point that they may end up with eating disorders or even kill themselves. They could end up destroying peoples stuff, harm others or even kill others because of being shamed. Do you still think shaming them is the answer?
Well for one being fat is generally not a good thing it's a display of bad health and makes them less genetically desirable to have as a friend.
Two, humans project there own insecurities at others and the path of least resistance is towards the ironically less attractive target.
Not justifying, just explaining.
Jealousy? Pride? Ideal?
"Why does that fat bitch have a boyfriend while I am still single?"
"Why does she seem much happier with her boyfriend than I am with mine?"
"Who does she think she is? Fat bitch thinks she need special attention?"
"Omg so disgusting, get a life."
I mean... some women are cruel. Especially the younger ones. Their motives are even more vicious than men's. I believe that women are innately more competitive than men. Especially between women. It's more common to see women fight than man and when they fight, its for blood.
Sure, we aren't talking fights here, but fights are essentially just the extreme form of this.
So if another women has more, has less, or does not fit in her perfect picture... She needs to let it be known that she does not want "that fat bitch" around.
It is simple, when this people degrade others they feel better, not because it is a good thing, but because rlthis kind of person are insecure, they are not able to feel good about themselfs, they need to demote other people to feel good enough instead of just improve their lives. Besides that they think that are just one way to have a good life, their way, the rest of the world is not allowed to choice his all life. Some people don't care about be fat, they are happy so and there are no problems with that.
Own life*
I don't see the purpose of making fun of someone i. e. calling them ugly, or pointing out a flaw in their appearance when it wasn't asked for. I don't see what that does for you or for them. With that being said, I don't think being fat should be normalized. Being fat isn't healthy, being fat is not ideal, being fat is not okay. We've gone from one extreme to the other i. e. anorexia to obesity. Being obese is just as bad as being anorexic. Women who get criticized for their weight and lifestyle choices should stop focusing on people pointing out the obvious and start focusing on ways to improve their health and overall fitness.
Because in this society you need to be slim to be accepted, if you're not, you won't fit in.
I don't care if someone is chubby, or slim, as long as they're healthy, because we shouldn't promote obesity or anorexic bodies. And just because someone is a bit fatter, doesn't necessarily mean that they're gross or unhealthy, same goes for slim women, they're not unhealthy or "bones".
And this is probably gonna offend someone. They get fat-shamed because we can see that she is unhealthy, but ques what? You're probably unhealthy too (not all people are) Maybe you sleep too much or less, or don't eat enough vegetables. Maybe you only eat junk food, but because you are skinny that is acceptable.
I don't promote Obesity or anorexic bodies, I promote healthy bodies, but that doesn't mean people who have obesity/are anorexic deserve less respect.
I agree with you but the problem is that the fat acceptance crowd will call you a hater if you show concern because you can't genuinely care for them unless you are fat yourself, and when they are struggling for victim points in the victim Olympics, most level headed people are turned off by it.
Because they skinny shame us. All my life I never gave a damn if you aspire to be a cow, but I got sick of hearing how I look sick, too skinny, and made up stories o what men tell them about skinny girl.
I fat shame you so you can lose weight, feel better about yourselves and hop off my dick.
I don't fat shame other women unless they're horrid bitches who do horrible things to other people for their own selfish gain. And I know a few: bitter at the world because no one will love them as they are when they have nothing to offer. They expect to be housewives to a wealthy man when they sit around all day being lazy.
My thoughts are that it's jealousy.
These girls probably feel cheated because they were lied to. You don't have to follow the standards of beauty set by society to find a decent lover, you just have to be a good person in general.
I don't feel like I *need* to be thin to be happy, and I'm not fat due to any fault of my own. I have a combination of several joint and circulation issues that make even walking difficult at times, but I stay very active.
I'm not a thin woman, and I have zero trouble finding men who want to date me, even without sex. I know that I've got a winning personality, that I'm interesting, engaging, and fun to be around.
Why does anybody save anybody I think the people that do that feel so bad about themselves that is it's a way to make them feel better thank you grading of putting other people down they don't realize what they open their mouths and do that all they did is became more ugly on the inside is that a picture of you on this question anyway anybody that thinks they're better than anybody else is full of themselves and fooling themselves the ugly are you becoming the inside it becomes like a cancer he needs to be fed all the time and the more times you feed it the cancer just grows at a faster pace
women do it to other women to make ourselves feel better.
I am a lot bigger than I want to be after my pregnancy.
Looking at the woman in the pic above, she is very pretty. I know a lot of guys that would go for her!
The "line" i feel we women think is okay to cross is when the "fat" woman has rolls and is so fat she has back boobs and her belly is so big i hangs down to mid thigh or knees.
The woman above is full figured, but i dont see her as fat.. she looks great! Full thighs, arms and torso is not ugly. Most of the guys i have dated would date her.
Women do it to boost their confidence and self worth.
So when one goes up, the other goes down and it's a vicious cycle.
Women prey on the insecurities of others to make their own insecurities seem less significant, if not non-existent.
Not all women are like this, I'm sure, but the women that are usually have deep rooted issues behind this reasoning. Whether it be a problem at home, at work, at school, or some traumatic event that they're dealing with in an unhealthy way.
Then there's that really small percentage that just do it because they've got a cunty personality.
They feel the need to. It may be that they're feeling down and need to feel better about themselves so they shame someone else. It may be because they see that the person is happy and they don't like that, or that the person is sad, and they want them to suffer more. They could say it in an argument or to defend themselves in a similar way. They may do it to be liked by someone who thinks the same of the person. There are multiple reasons behind it, out of them, only one being a good one to use, and that would be motivation, which isn't even shaming.
Why would anyone want to put someone else down?
I think it's because women are in constant competition with each other. And when women see that the competition has qualities that make them more desirable they will find a fault with that person and make them insecure about it in order to maintain their own status as "the best".
I heard something once, I can't remember where, but they said: "to look beautiful all you have to do is surround yourself with ugly people" I would assume this also translates to exploiting people's insecurities to make yourself feel superior.
Obesity is an issue. And it's not always shaming it's could be attempting to get someone to loose weight. Cause it's bad for people bad for kids and bad for our species to be overweight.
At times it's gluttony too.
I do understand some people bound to wheelchairs or housebound etc with certain issues may be fat through circumstances alone.
That I would defend to the end of the earth.
But telling someone to loose weight is considered fat shaming. It's not. You'd tell a drug addict to quit. I'd tell an obese person to eat less and move more.
What? Are you saying it's wrong to tell someone they have a problem?
People tell me it's wrong to cut my body up with razors and burn myself.
It's also bad for you to eat too much and not move enough.
I'm just saying there's a difference between. Shaming. And attempting to save someone. If I was getting fat I'd want someone to tell me. If I couldn't see it for myself. Or anything else for the matter. If I drink to much etc.
I think the shaming business is just a way to avoid the truth. However there is a line. Calling someone offense names because there fat. I don't agree with that at all. It's our responsibility to be tactful with words.
Human being set the standard of beauty where most would believe that and media will come in handy in that situation to promote, anybody who decide or just happen to be outsiders wouldn't be tolerate, we finger shame, critisize and degrade them, as long as we put labels, any labels, to others, we just create more distance to one another, this is just one form of many forms of negative shame treatment and it's not woman problem but human as a whole, so stop labelling, it just creates more fraction, more fraction means more problems, can we just sit and be grateful
Well here is my story. I used to be chubby before. I weighed 158 lb at 5'3 and my mom was the one day shaming me. So I told her oh yeah mom I'm fat well that's good for me ok I live to eat not eat to live. I can lose 10 lbs any time. But the real question is how can we solve your droopy ass syndrome without a doctor. From then on she never complained about my extra 10lbs and I gradually lost it cause I started dancing hip hop and salsa. But the point is don't let no body bring you down about weight. It's a solvable issue that can be fixed with a little hard work. That's all. Anyway that's how I delt with it.
Lol what do they want. To be fat?
Oh girl they don't only fat shame, they slut shame, they education shame, every part of the body shame. I am skinny and I still get bullied for being skinny. Some women are just nasty and they will get at you for any reason. I was told ugly girls are bullied. I was a model and still I got bullied. Its just some women hate themselves and vent all their toxicity on other women to feel better. You can't win whatever you do with them. So just love your self and your body and be whatever u want to be
Nicely stated. A lot of (not all) women don't like having a woman as a boss, as a professor, etc., and seem to act like the only way they can bolster their own image is to put others down. Overweight women make easy and obvious targets. So do promiscuous ones, smart ones, and anyone who isn't in the "cool" crowd. Some of my friends, both girls and guys, could stand to lose a few pounds but I'd never shame them for it. Nobody with any class would shame anyone over physical appearance. Like you, I'm petite and slender, and I used to be picked on for being small. The guys used to make jokes like "it's windy out, let me hold your arm so you don't blow away." It wasn't hurtful, but it got old. The girls would be catty and mean-spirited about it.
Women are bitches. Point. I think it is women who are very insecure and sad in their own lifes, that they have to insult others just to make themselves feel superior and better. Nobody has the right to shame another for being overweight. It is a very sad world we live in...
It's for 3 reasons I think:
1. Slim women work hard and sacrifice food and time to maintain their figure and gain acceptance and beauty, so they are annoyed when fatter women complain that they aren't as accepted when they haven't made the same sacrifices.
2 pity: When you see someone doing something that is self destructive, you wish that you could help them in some way. But when you see a food addict, they want that which damages them, so it end up being a condemnation of the fatter woman's addiction to food and her bigotry about the solution.
3. Natural selection makes unhealthy kin a liability to the local gene pool. We're programmed by evolution to "fat shame" because, evolutionarily, it's disadvantageous to a species to encourage/ accept behavior that makes the tribe weak and vulnerable, because that in turn could help contribute to the decline of the group.
Uhhh most skinny women are naturally skinny but ok
Lol no they didn't they were born that way!
The height of genetic variation concerning fat distribution comes between men and women not among women. Men typically have more fat around their midline (due to neuroreceptors) and women tend to have more fat on their upper body and around their hips (also due to neuroreceptors). beyond that, having type 1 diabetes is the only real way to be genetically predisposed to be fat
Giving a healthy friendly advise is fine but downright shaming them for being fat is unacceptable.
And it's not just girls, boys do it as much with their friends.
Only difference is maybe men don't take it seriously and women do bcz aapearance is definitely more important to every woman.
Motive... well there isn't really. Those who do it just like to point out the imperfection or shortcomings of others.
It's none of their business what other women do.
Same reason why women skinny shame other women. Because either they are jealous as fuck or just plain assholes. Seems like girls are very competitive when it comes to beauty and always use "shaming" as a way to make themselves feel better.
Shaming someone for their weight is disgusting.
If you are really worried about someone's health, there are way nicer ways to tell them that.
Correct one would be, women body shame other women.
One of the biggest reasons I don't like hanging out with other girls. They keep commenting on other girls' bodies, their dress sense and so on.
"Oh my God, she's so flat"
"Oh my God such a fat ass"
I'm sick of it. I don't find such behavior classy at all.
Women can be too cruel to each other.
Being overweight is unhealthy period. The no such as body shaming it a bunch of lazy overweight people that has psychological issues in there past that lead to eating out of sadness and boredom. These are mentally suffering and can get out of the loop because their comfort of of not carrying about their body but desire what a healthy person want. Which bring them back to sadness of eating again. This why we have personal trainer. But not everyone can afford to be healthy. That why diet exist. But really they need mentally strong and get past their urges to live a healthy life. There nothing wrong being thick or cubby. But being fat, overweight and obese is the danger zone.
It's a sad situation everyone is lovely in there own way whether they are fat or thin i was once on a date with someone we went to Jimmy Chung's and she seen a woman that had problems with her weight. She was talking fine to her one minute then soon as her back was turned she was saying nasty things about her being over weight. I felt like reaching out to the woman and giving her a cuddle. I never went on a second date with that woman because of what she said. I think woman fat shame other woman because they are naturally bitchy with eachother. They take pride in there appearance and if they see a woman that makes no effort they slag them off probably take photos and tag them on social media. The woman probably had a problem with her weight and that's what has caused her to put on the weight.
Because fat shaming isn't bad
Bullying is
But fat shaming isn't
It works and makes you work to be better and healthy.
But if you believe in fat acceptance, then day shaming just makes you feel better about living an unhealthy life and convincing yourself that you are healthy and better than everyone else because you don't have thing privilege and all that intersectional crap
I never fat shame anybody. But I do notice that some of the more heavy women I meet hates me instantly. If its jealousy or they assume I woundn't like them? I dont know. But it doesn't bring us together thats for sure. Then I also noticed some trades that heavy people often share such as fysical lasyness, they are often weak and complain a lot if challenged to do something active. No will to push though the pain. The once I've met and had longer interactions with always feel like they are treated unfairly and complain a LOT about anything and demand special treatment. Oh and in need of a lot of attention and none of those is a good trade to me. So if I meet a more heavy person and they start to show signs like this I'll pull away cause its not trades I look for in a friend. But I'll never ever comment on their weight to anybody.
Fat women shame slim girls too.
They say there's "nothing of them," that they're "stick thin." My cousin who 10 called me anorexic when I was 17? I eat heaps yet remain slim, is just who I am. You always hear that fat shaming is offensive but skinny shaming is too.
Fat people need to sort themselves out but I guess skinny shaming helps them justify why they choose to be overweight.
umm Skinny shaming can be done by fit and normal sized people too. Hell, I've heard thin people shame each others. It's not just Overweight people. In general as human society we have this problem called "not being able to shut up about our opinions" 😂 But you do realize that just as you just remaing slim, it's not always a decision to be fat.
I guess they're just being honest. The thing is people take offense at someone just for being called fat. Sometimes it's good to be honest and receive some constructive criticism so they can lean more towards a healthy lifestyle. I get called skinny a lot and to put on weight. However, if one's flat out saying someone's a fatass and those sorts derogatory add on terms, that does reflect the level of immaturity of that person.
There is a big difference between constructive criticism and shaming; nothing good comes from shaming. It decreases one person's perception of their self-worth, while inflating the others.
It isn't about gender, dear Anonymous, it's human nature...
We humans tend to have a set of aesthetic standards ( which are mostly influenced) anyone or anything that falls out of those standards are subject to mockery and ridicule.
Not just the case of fat shaming but other things too like skin colour, teeth size, hair growth among various things ( British, till last century thought that having white skin makes them superior to other humans that that different colored skin, so they invaded many countries and established their laws/colonies 'cause they thought their way of living was superior. A classic case of having different aesthetic standards).
Why do women shame each other period? Fat girls body shame skinny girls (vice versa), virgin women tend to slut shame their sexually liberated counterparts (and vice versa), etc. It's because the shamer is usually insecure and putting down the shamed because she thinks it will make her feel and look better.
Gender rarely makes a difference in this matter. Women do it for the same reasons men do it sometimes. People often put down others because they are jealous but more likely to raise their own esteem. I can't honestly say I've known many women to fat shame. I've seen a couple of female celebrities, skinny ones, fat shame other celebs. But in person and in my experience alone of every day life, it is guys who fat shame more.
Because it's nature of reproductive competition. We are still animals who compete for reproductive success. Now when it comes to obese people and anorexic people, both are unhealthy and are seen as poison to the community from a subconscious mind. It's actually a self defense for the species to distrust them, be unaccepting, and possibly violent.
There are so many BIG woman in the West. Now their bad food and habits spreading in the world. It is terrible! Terrible also that people want say everything is ok and everyone is great and beautiful. That will leading to world of fat women and men that is very unhealthy.
Well said, I don't see the point of dumb things like 'thin privilege' started out by the fat acceptance crown in order to feel good about themselves as they have more victim points.
Why are the western third wave feminists promoting unhealthy and destructive lifestyles is beyond me.
@YingKim I'm sorry that you have to go through this, but I think even you will agree that being skinny isn't good either, I believe and I hope you agree that we all should strive to be healthy and fit rather than trying to justify those who are glorifying being aneroxic or being morbidly obese.
by the way you are incredibly adorable 😄
Not all girls do that. But I agree most of them do. Those who do that, are just insecure about their own body and can't see a fat girl just be happy with her body and smile beautifully where as they have to work hard on their body shape with a fake satisfied look.
Because skinny white women are the symbol of hotness according to tv. They often are put down as sexy, even though there are curvy women! LIKE ME! Who are maybe WAY better looking than these skinny model dolls. sorry for saying that, but it is stupid! and I dont let ANYONE call me fat.
What does race have to do with this, and everyone apart from liberal bubble already knows that the extreme skinny models aren't the standard, no men that I have interacted with over the ears found those aneroxic, just bones women hot.
With all due respect, race has nothing to do with being fit, you based on your avatar look like a gorgeous women that would make men drop their jaws to the floor. And if men are telling you that they don't find you attractive because you aren't skin and bones, then you are unfortunately in the wrong group of people.
Really race
Because framing someone else as less desirable will give the women in question a feeling of having the upper-hand. The whole idea of competition in the dating world and how evolution hardwired both genders to develop tactics that make themselves seem more desirable to mate with than others would explain why there's more shaming within genders (so woman on woman) versus women against men, too.
Jaleousy and because when you feel like super crap it's better to make feel people like crap around you so that you can look better, so that you can feel better.
But it's superficial when you are alone you feel like crap.
Solve your fucking issues, its what it means.
For the same reason we men fat shame other men - it's not good to be fat. And yes, I got fat shamed too when I was a fatty.
I find it funny that a lot of people think it's jealousy. Usually people get jealous when someone is better off than they are - more money, more popular, funnier , better looking etc. But being jealous because someone's fat? That's like someone with money being jealous of someone else because they're poor - makes no sense.
They get a kick out of it. But let's be clear, being overweight shouldn't be culturally acceptable - for the same reason that untreated athlete's foot shouldn't be socially acceptable. No, it doesn't really affect others, but leaving one's body in an unhealthy state is unsanitary and bad role modeling.
I don't fat shame so I wouldn't know why people do it. I guess it depends on people's opinions of fat. For me fat is when someone doesn't take care of them selves properly, but "big" women is something I don't fat shame. If someone is bigger but healthy there is a difference.
It's pretty sad that we have come to the point where we feel better about are self s when we have to insult others for how there look
There's a saying here in the UK what goes around comes around ie
If u insult others somewhere down the line your going to get it back ten fold. so if u have nothing good to say about anyone say nothing a keep quiet then u will not get hurt by insulting remarks it's that simple.
Yes let's encourage people to live unhealthy lives! I get a bit of weight but to be fat is bad and anyone who defends it is an idiot
It may be your choice but it doesn't mean it is any less healthy. I'm not here to tell you to stop being who you are, you have the right to be who you are. I'm only stating my opinion... one based on scientific research
I don't know either way women of size are loved too so it won't take anything away from them. But I say as long as its not doing anything to anyone else dont worry ab them, its annoying to see people feed into something that has nothing to do with them
They want to feel better about themselves insecurity jealousy we tend to look at our selfs and compare it to other women oh what does she have that I don't have or I have this and she doesn't I find that we can be critical of our body because social media wants us to see beauty as this or that and it hurts the younger generation they will look at it see a trend and try to follow it like the eyebrows thing that looks square in the front and a bit faded eye lashes and so on
What do you see as fat shaming? If someone overweight asks me about my opinion, I'd say that trying to achieve a healthy weight would be better for both her/his body and soul. Not in some matter of attractivenes, a woman with "more meat" can be attractive as well, but she'll have a higher risk of several hearth- and other diseases.
I do not go to strangers and telling them that without being asked though.
Fat-acceptance is pretty dangerous in my opinion though. Its like telling an alcoholic who tries to get rid of this addiction that he has to accept him self just as he is. Both, overweight (especially obesity) and alcoholism are dangerous for our health. So why is it socially accepting to tell a alcoholic or a smoker to quit, but not telling somewho with overweight to do something good for his body?
Exactly right. I'm rather skinny and have been told in a past that I won't ever find a man because I'm not a real woman. Is that skinny shamming or just plain jealousy?
Besides, heavier people need to think beyond attractiveness and focus on health.
@PinkishPink I think, as long as someone isn't extremely underweight (which is just as unhealthy as being extremely obese) its mostly jealousy infact... if you have a normal weight and people are still saying that, then that just shows how fucked up our society has become... we see slightly overweight people as normal, and those who have a lower normalweight-bmi (which is the healthiesst one) as too thin.
Fat shaming is a huge part of society and just like people don't like others because of there race or where they come from, people also don't like others for being over weight. Another thing is that in society women are put in competition with other women from a very young age, which is also why women often get along better with men
Or you can stop being fat
I fat shame everyone because being fat means you are unhealty and lazy. I can't understand people who approve of fat. Its like deliberatly not brushing your teeth and letting them rot.
People approve all sorts of unhealthy habits and lifestyles. I'm not into glorifying fatness but iffat people are more accepted in society, they will feel more encouraged to go out there and lose weight.
You can't know when you look at a person if she is ill, just lazy or already working to change.
No I think people would actually eat healthier and exercise if forced to do it. Sugar coating it doesn't help. You are right I can't know why person is fat but in most cases is because they are lazy, they eat a lot of junk food and dont care about their health or looks. I cannot respect that, sorry. Unless they have some sickness or are in the process of loosing weight and getting healthier.
@little_bird1 I completely agree with you
@StrawberryCream accepting and glorifying and accommodating fat people makes them feel like its okay to be unhealthy and putting your life at risk and makes them even more entitled.
And entitledness is not going to get respect because you can't demand it, you'll have to earn it.
If they have some medical problems, then they have my full sympathy.
Go watch the TLC show 'my big fat fabulous life' look at her whining and crying, he excuse is her having PSU, and many women with PSU have come forward calling her out on her crap because they didn't get morbidly obese, because they worked hard to fight against it.
@TheFriendlyOne Thank you, you nicely explained my point. And 'shaming' is not the same as 'making fun of someone', I could never make fun of anyone. I just know that being obese is VERY unhealthy and let's be honest, very unattractive. Everybody likes fit people not because the shape of their body but because our unconscious part of brain is telling us that that fit person is healthy. Back in stone age obese people were eliminated by natural selection. If I see a man or a women fat as this woman on the picture, I can't help but thinking 'what the hell is wrong with her, how can she live like that?'. It tells a lot about her personality as well. I don't shame only fat people, smokers, drug addicts and all people who so easily and without a drop of guilt are destroying their bodies like that are also to blame.
But what I'm mostly surprised is how other girls commented on this post, it's unbelievable.
Because women and men are generally (not always) in competition with members of the same sex to find a partner. As such, pointing out someone's flaws is a logical choice to increase your chances. Its not a nice thing to do in every case, but it makes sense. Aren't biological imperatives wonderful.
Chubby dudes get the same kind of shit for the same reason, but most of the fat guys I know could kick anyone's ass six ways to Sunday so they didn't really give a shit what anyone called them.
How about instead of saying being fat, having heart disease, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, and loads of other deadly diseases, we encourage them to lose weight and not stand by and compliment people that are bound to die 20 years prematurely?
I want believe it's competition among other women but they're not so direct like men. It's a common trait that women don't want direct confrontation, so they'll take an indirect approach. In this case, whittle down the other girl from the inside so she doesn't have the confidence to be competition.
Personally I think it has to do with seeing something in that woman that you are jealous of. Whether its the way she carries herself, her personality, her smile or her eyes. It could be anything. And it makes that person feel better about themselves.
I don't understand it - its so much easier to bring a woman up, compliment her, then it is to bring her down
Well, I don't think it has to do with the gender... I would like to respond with another question. Why is society making it ok to be fat and unhealthy? That's the easy way to live, it's awesome to accept the lifestyles of people eating too much or just being lazy and not praise the efforts fit people make to stay healthy in a world surrounded with junk food. In addition, having people say it's ok to be fat...
Seriously? Who put any of you in charge. I mean I'm not Christian or nothing but didn't we get given free will? So on that basis who gives a flying fragnod who is what.. The real question is why don't people keep their opinions to them selves instead of trying to put there opinions as laws and force people to live the way that they see fit. I mean as long as you are happy with yourself in life that's all that matters fat or skinny. I know people who can't get fat and people who can't get skinny. It doesn't make a difference because inside those shells is a human being and we need to treat that inner human as we would want to be treated
I missed the Sainthood. Did I get appointment to Saint? Someone should throw a party.
Your wording and the wording in the reply before show that in all cases 8ts lazy and unhealthy to be fat.. "who let's them be like that" "educate them" homie I know a 400lb fat guy right now that will work harder than any skinny person I know. He's an ox but a healthy one.
🤔 yeah I see what your trying to say, but not all fat/skinny people have that problem that is out of their hands to fix. Some are genuinely lazy, and if they are I really don't give a shit. It's praising people "oh your so brave to accept how you look" when the person is just, again, lazy...
We are free as paople to live our life as we wish to. A lot of people do unhealthy things but society is not responsible, individual is. Society already encourages us to ve healthy, work hard, not to use drugs etc. But we make our own decisions. You people saying it's wrong to let people live like this, is like a parent saying to teen that it's wrong to drink alcohol when they are young. They might do it anyways.
Firstly there is no reason to be so oversensitive about this whole thing.
Secondly, nobody is forcing you to change yourself.
All we are trying to say is if a person seeks help and WANTS TO lose weight then we should definitely encourage them and help them out.
N even if they fail to achieve a target there's no reason to be hard on them really.
Bcz I understand it's not simple... It requires a lot of inner strength and will power.
But it's definitely not impossible.
Thirdly, nobody here said that fat people are less efficient.
They are in no way less than any other person.
But it is scientifically proven that a healthy life will increase your life expectancy. (Unless the most healthiest person gets hit by a truck or something)
However, if those people don't think so far into the future it's totally upto them.
Nobody can judge anybody really.
It's only for our benefit that we are talking about it.
And nobody said anything about trying to fit in or be skinny.
Just about eating healthy and living healthy.
Like they say don't live to eat but eat to live.
And like someone mentioned above it's not just about obesity, even everything else... It's simple.
It's all about being cautious and treasuring this life that you have.
Try to do everything right... and
Making sure you correct what u did wrong cz in the end it's all about growth. That's why we r humans!
Again nobody here is trying to belittle anybody.
I personally want to be helped in case I ever need it. And I will be glad to those who come to my aid.
Likewise, some don't want it. N they are free to live that way.
NOBODY IS FORCING YOU.
I personally believe that girls who fat shame other people usually care really much about looks, most commonly because that is the only thing they've got going for them, this often makes them feel insecure and jealous of other people, so you should just remember, when somebody shames you, you should feel sorry for them and not for yourselves girls.
because of jealousy. if a girl calls another girl fat, overweight, obese, too large, etc, she's almost 100% jealous that the girl is probably skinnier than her and wants to lower the girl's self esteem because of jealousy. but if a guy calls a girl anything that relates to "you're fat", it's downright disrespectful
it's kinda the same reason guys shit talk each other, because of jealousy and "competition"
Orrrr you're not jealous and that person is just fat
Or skinny. Don't need to be jealous to have perception of others
I don’t fat shame, I’m not wired that way.
Pretty sure overweight people know they are overweight, don’t need others to point it out to them.
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