I would like to point out that there's a difference between obese and fat. Obese shaming, is OK in my book, fat shaming is too vague. For the record, you are at risk for all of those diseases and heart conditions if you are OBESE, not fat, as I will demonstrate.
We can't just eyeball a person and tell if they're unhealthy fat (high bmi/obese) or that's just their natural body shape, but they're medically healthy (moderate bmi, fit). So most of us just blanket-shame fat people. You have to understand that having a fat body has absolutely no correlation with fitness and health.
I was a chubby Asian kid in high school, not 'fat' but getting closer to it at 5'5" and 150lb. Plenty of others were lighter and more fit-looking. When it came time to test our fitness levels as mandated by state/federal laws, I put performed the vast majority of the others in my year. I ran a 6.5 min mile-run, (avg was 9:00 for my year), managed 90 push-ups (second highest), and took first place for sit-ups (325). When we tested our bmi, I was on the low end, at ~20. For those of you who don't know, that means my body weight was 20% fat. Obese is generally accepted as 35, slightly obese as 30, healthy 20-25. For the record, Asians have different genetics that automatically boost any bmi by about 5 points, so I was actually at about 25% by Asian bmi standards, still healthy.
Now, what does that all mean? I was a chubby kid, but damn if I couldn't kick your ass with those muscles under my fat coat all the same. After I got my fat levels tested at my doctor's later that year, we found that despite my weight, I had one of the most healthy fat levels he had ever seen in someone my age.
So yeah, looking fat doesn't mean you're at-risk; that's obese. All the same, you can't tell if someone is fat or obese with a glance, unless they're the type that look to be on the verge of a heart attack. My opinion is that if shaming obesity saves lives, do it, but that's not feasible. My take is that I'll point it out to someone I know well maybe just once or twice, but a stranger can have a heart attack not 5 minutes after I meet them, as long as their greasy chicken leg/barf doesn't land on my shoes.
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Women try to push their insecurities on other women it does not stop at fat shaming. So just avoid listening to negative people. If they're friends cut them off because they're useless if they can't accept you the way you are. Real friends motivate you.
Standards, jealousy, insecurities, etc. I can definitely say it’s something I hate. I once was all skin and bones until after I graduated high school and I’ve continued to gain more weight mainly in my legs but of course that weight distributed to other places such as my stomach and arms which makes me look a little unflattering and now I have to work to lose that and it’s not as easy as social media portrays. Due to this, I absolutely hate seeing slimmer girls fat shame bigger girls who are on the thicker side for not having a slim waist especially when these girls are all breaking there backs trying to look thick in photos. Everybody wants to be thick but nobody wants the other stuff that comes with it and due to social media, the only time “thickness” is acceptable is if your stomach is flat or someone never experienced excess fat and body came strictly from lifting.
I’m not fat but I’m definitely bigger than I was a year ago. 1st pic was around February 2016. Second is last Saturday
Of the handful of opinions I've read a lot of them mentioned health issues. This is fair and true. Being overweight or obese heightens the risks of heart disease, high blood pressure which leads to strokes, diabetes, bad hips and knees and a whole list of other issues.
But let's be honest now, the women that judge or ridicule women about their weight aren't doing it to be noble and becuase they're concerned about that woman's health. Let's go ahead and cut that shit right now.
Again though, let be honest about this, women shame skinny girls too. Bigger girls aren't the only ones that get shamed.
I can't say for sure why women do this, but I strongly believe it could be jealous and stems from insecurities about themselves. I believe 99% of women are insecure, and judging and shaming someone else they believe to be less than they are makes them feel better and superior.
I can't say for sure but that's my best guess.
People who fat shame or do any shaming are narrow minded. They just make assumptions that every fat person sits on the couch 24/7 stuffing their face. They don't care enough to learn that people have different metabolisms And medical conditions that might make it hard to not gain weight. Even digestion issues or medication side effects cause weigh gain. Some people can eat crap and not worry about a thing while another person eating the same thing would balloon up. It makes fat shammers feel good about themselfs to put fat people down. It makes them feel like they are better.
Has to do with jealousy and insecurities, but there's no need to shame any woman whether their bodies are bigger or petite. Clearly if you don't have anything good to say when it comes to fat shaming, you should keep your comments to yourself.
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I probably will get hate for this but anyways.
I'll start off by saying that fat shaming isn't only a bad thing, it is also a good thing. I'll explain.
In today's society, we have a lot of obese people which we always praise and tell the " shamers " to f**K off but do you know that your " praising " is actually gonna cost them probably their life? Being fat isn't anything to be proud of and the more we encourage the " fat " people and tell them how excellent they look and all that stuff, the more they will be like " Ah to hell with changing, everyone likes me! " and at the end, diseases such as heart attack and so on most probably will be the consequence. I've read many stories online and also my close friends who were fat and after getting fat shamed they hit the gym and turned their life around or basically they got INSPIRED. Wish I could post their picture and you could see their amazing transformation.
Also to mention that people nowadays get offended very easily. People can't tell the " fat " people the truth in fear of getting publicly shamed and having their faces and names plastered online and make a movie out of them.
What I have written above is directed towards the people who don't control their diet and eat anything they want anytime they want and It was NOT directed at people who have sickness such as thyroid and so on which causes fatness or in other words, the fatness which isn't voluntary.Women generally insult other femalea just so they can feel better about thwmselves.
Insulting a person because of how they look is a hollow, selfish self confidence "booster", by hurting or embarrasing a girl who is heavier the other female feels justified in her own looks.
Then again... some people are genuinely rude disgusting people and waste our air by even existing & they take true pleasure in seeing other people hurt but only by their doing.
I see one rude person on here... although being fat is not attractive it is a health problem for many people, overweight people are no more a burden to a health system than the vegan parents who accidentally cause the malnutrition of their children due to poor diet, or the morons who exercise to the point of hispitalization, or the people who insist on visiting foreign lands that are known for illnesses & then bring them back home.
So to the rude guy up top... the health system is made to remedy all health related issues and no one group of people or specific health issue is a sole burden to the system...I think the fact is, lifestyle is a matter of choice, and one has full control over the way they live. So if someone is fat because they're okay with not being thin or look fit, it's completely their choice. Difference is that if I'm a person who cares about my body, I may end up thinking if not commenting over people who live differently.
Coming to your questions, I do feel that there are plenty women who admire their physique and probably dislike a person who doesn't want to feel good about themselves. Truth is, they may be okay with being fat, but the shaming part may put them through self doubt. This is also because of a tiny Superiority complex either gender has. But in girls, the physical complex is a bit more of a vocal thing, whereas most guys are relaxed about it. That's also because guys would probably fat shame other guys in a joking manner than in an offensive manner.
Again, it may sound subjective, but I saw the pattern through my entire schooling and uni, so it's what I noticed.It's the other way around as well. I got a new job and I was constantly shamed about the fact that I look so skinny and my work clothes didn't even fit. They made fun of me so much for that, that I quit after working there for only a few days. It was unbearable. I acted like I was fine about it in the beginning, but it really got me mad after a few days. People are shit, we just have to accept that. Try to be the best you can towards other people, no matter their size, height, color, ethnicity, gender etc. So far, I have only acted in a shitty way towards people who did the same to me first, even as a kid.
Although it's unhealthy being overweight , I'd never ridicule or insult anyone for their shape or size. Whether they are fat or skinny. It's not in my nature to intentionally insult people's appearance. Fat shaming is just an excuse to be an asshole or bitch. It's a form of bullying.
So, sometimes i see a lady so fat, that i can't even see the person, i just see fat. Ripping the arm sleeves, tugging at the hips, those poor tiny feet that carry that around, and she has a second head hanging below her face thats supposed to be her chin. It honestly makes me sad bc I don't know how someone gets to that point whether it be a disease or bad habits. But if i looked that bad, i wish i had someone who cared enough to help me, encourage me that that isn't my best. Im on the heavier side I've always been a size 9-14 usually but i dont feel like myself on the larger sizes or ill fitting clothes bc my waist can't squeeze in a cute top or pants. We all have to do our best esp. As a woman and we dont need our own weight to be pulling us down from all the people and influences that stop us from achieving more. A healthy woman is a strong woman.
Why not shame them? Being fat is against everything a human bring should be doing. You waste food (indirectly causing global warming), get less productive, you're not efficient and it's not healthy either.
I think it should be greatly discouraged. Ofcourse there are limits to that, as always, but I also think people should stop glorifying fat people. People being "happy with their body" is insane when it causes them to die earlier and all the other stuff I pointed out earlier.
I know this is an inpopular opinion and I might receive shit for this, but it's got to be said. If you are fat, you saw this coming from miles away; fix yourself or get professional help. Whatever you do, don't go crying later, you brought this upon yourself.Well for one being fat is generally not a good thing it's a display of bad health and makes them less genetically desirable to have as a friend.
Two, humans project there own insecurities at others and the path of least resistance is towards the ironically less attractive target.
Not justifying, just explaining.Jealousy? Pride? Ideal?
"Why does that fat bitch have a boyfriend while I am still single?"
"Why does she seem much happier with her boyfriend than I am with mine?"
"Who does she think she is? Fat bitch thinks she need special attention?"
"Omg so disgusting, get a life."
I mean... some women are cruel. Especially the younger ones. Their motives are even more vicious than men's. I believe that women are innately more competitive than men. Especially between women. It's more common to see women fight than man and when they fight, its for blood.
Sure, we aren't talking fights here, but fights are essentially just the extreme form of this.
So if another women has more, has less, or does not fit in her perfect picture... She needs to let it be known that she does not want "that fat bitch" around.It is simple, when this people degrade others they feel better, not because it is a good thing, but because rlthis kind of person are insecure, they are not able to feel good about themselfs, they need to demote other people to feel good enough instead of just improve their lives. Besides that they think that are just one way to have a good life, their way, the rest of the world is not allowed to choice his all life. Some people don't care about be fat, they are happy so and there are no problems with that.
I don't see the purpose of making fun of someone i. e. calling them ugly, or pointing out a flaw in their appearance when it wasn't asked for. I don't see what that does for you or for them. With that being said, I don't think being fat should be normalized. Being fat isn't healthy, being fat is not ideal, being fat is not okay. We've gone from one extreme to the other i. e. anorexia to obesity. Being obese is just as bad as being anorexic. Women who get criticized for their weight and lifestyle choices should stop focusing on people pointing out the obvious and start focusing on ways to improve their health and overall fitness.
Because in this society you need to be slim to be accepted, if you're not, you won't fit in.
I don't care if someone is chubby, or slim, as long as they're healthy, because we shouldn't promote obesity or anorexic bodies. And just because someone is a bit fatter, doesn't necessarily mean that they're gross or unhealthy, same goes for slim women, they're not unhealthy or "bones".
And this is probably gonna offend someone. They get fat-shamed because we can see that she is unhealthy, but ques what? You're probably unhealthy too (not all people are) Maybe you sleep too much or less, or don't eat enough vegetables. Maybe you only eat junk food, but because you are skinny that is acceptable.
I don't promote Obesity or anorexic bodies, I promote healthy bodies, but that doesn't mean people who have obesity/are anorexic deserve less respect.Because they skinny shame us. All my life I never gave a damn if you aspire to be a cow, but I got sick of hearing how I look sick, too skinny, and made up stories o what men tell them about skinny girl.
I fat shame you so you can lose weight, feel better about yourselves and hop off my dick.I don't fat shame other women unless they're horrid bitches who do horrible things to other people for their own selfish gain. And I know a few: bitter at the world because no one will love them as they are when they have nothing to offer. They expect to be housewives to a wealthy man when they sit around all day being lazy.
My thoughts are that it's jealousy.
These girls probably feel cheated because they were lied to. You don't have to follow the standards of beauty set by society to find a decent lover, you just have to be a good person in general.
I don't feel like I *need* to be thin to be happy, and I'm not fat due to any fault of my own. I have a combination of several joint and circulation issues that make even walking difficult at times, but I stay very active.
I'm not a thin woman, and I have zero trouble finding men who want to date me, even without sex. I know that I've got a winning personality, that I'm interesting, engaging, and fun to be around.Why does anybody save anybody I think the people that do that feel so bad about themselves that is it's a way to make them feel better thank you grading of putting other people down they don't realize what they open their mouths and do that all they did is became more ugly on the inside is that a picture of you on this question anyway anybody that thinks they're better than anybody else is full of themselves and fooling themselves the ugly are you becoming the inside it becomes like a cancer he needs to be fed all the time and the more times you feed it the cancer just grows at a faster pace
women do it to other women to make ourselves feel better.
I am a lot bigger than I want to be after my pregnancy.
Looking at the woman in the pic above, she is very pretty. I know a lot of guys that would go for her!
The "line" i feel we women think is okay to cross is when the "fat" woman has rolls and is so fat she has back boobs and her belly is so big i hangs down to mid thigh or knees.
The woman above is full figured, but i dont see her as fat.. she looks great! Full thighs, arms and torso is not ugly. Most of the guys i have dated would date her.Women do it to boost their confidence and self worth.
So when one goes up, the other goes down and it's a vicious cycle.
Women prey on the insecurities of others to make their own insecurities seem less significant, if not non-existent.
Not all women are like this, I'm sure, but the women that are usually have deep rooted issues behind this reasoning. Whether it be a problem at home, at work, at school, or some traumatic event that they're dealing with in an unhealthy way.
Then there's that really small percentage that just do it because they've got a cunty personality.They feel the need to. It may be that they're feeling down and need to feel better about themselves so they shame someone else. It may be because they see that the person is happy and they don't like that, or that the person is sad, and they want them to suffer more. They could say it in an argument or to defend themselves in a similar way. They may do it to be liked by someone who thinks the same of the person. There are multiple reasons behind it, out of them, only one being a good one to use, and that would be motivation, which isn't even shaming.
Why would anyone want to put someone else down?
I think it's because women are in constant competition with each other. And when women see that the competition has qualities that make them more desirable they will find a fault with that person and make them insecure about it in order to maintain their own status as "the best".
I heard something once, I can't remember where, but they said: "to look beautiful all you have to do is surround yourself with ugly people" I would assume this also translates to exploiting people's insecurities to make yourself feel superior.Obesity is an issue. And it's not always shaming it's could be attempting to get someone to loose weight. Cause it's bad for people bad for kids and bad for our species to be overweight.
At times it's gluttony too.
I do understand some people bound to wheelchairs or housebound etc with certain issues may be fat through circumstances alone.
That I would defend to the end of the earth.
But telling someone to loose weight is considered fat shaming. It's not. You'd tell a drug addict to quit. I'd tell an obese person to eat less and move more.
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