There are A LOT OF GIRLS WHO SAY THINGS LIKE THIS.
Am I just running into the boring ones or something? Why does it seem like women have such few hobbies?
Immediate response to the question... because they don't have hobbies outside of anything attached to getting or maintaining male attention. (You can probably tell I've thought about this a lot)
... Now I'll read the meat. lol wow, crazy how I think you're about to hit the same conclusions I have. What defines a friendship is a 'common mutual interest' which is what binds them. I don't find the exchange of sex for attention or things that money buys as a common interest (tell that to the next 'nice guy' that pretends to be your friend ladies... I bet you he's just trying to get laid and not really be your friend).
On top of all that women seem to be motivated by very different agendas. Males for instance will play a looter video game for hours on end... just for the in game loot. But when I see females even touching video games, it tends to be a media spectacle of some sort (youtube/twitch/and so on) with followers reaching far beyond anything that's needed to play the game. I mean seriously... the only times my messages blow up is by women and children and I AM NEVER THE ONLY PERSON ON THAT SEND LIST, I'm like one of hundreds.
So again I see a pattern to obtain or maintain male attention... even with something as mundane as video games.
I could keep going with examples like cheating females... If she has a sudden interest and you're not involved or an active member of that interest, you can bet your ass some guy is in the woodwork. Something as simple as the yoga instructor in GTA5 is pretty much such a common example that pretty much anyone can grasp what I'm talking about here. The interest in any hobby always has the male part involved... otherwise they bicker with each other, get catty, gossip, and fight... with each other.
So to come full circle... makeup, shopping, fashion, parties, social events... notice how they're all attached to obtaining or maintaining the male interest. It's always in some way attached to that even when us men think their interests is peeked with something along the lines of what peeks our interests.
Bear Grylls... and his version of survivor where the females and males are in different groups... which group does what...
A man can figure out how to survive... women need people to survive. ... and usually in a form that taxes a man in some shape or form.
I think it's just the type of women you hang out with. I know plenty of women who enjoy things like cooking (creatively), going for hikes, rock climbing, sports, sailing, saving the environment, volunteering, painting, etc. To me, women with some interests outside "just hanging" are a lot more interesting than those without. I remember meeting a lady who was really into rock climbing such that she even train on one-handed climbs. To me, seeing someone do something that they're good at, something that they became good at because they were willing to dedicate time and energy and passion to their craft - that's very, very impressive.
What sort of social circles do you hang out in? Because I would love to meet a girl like that, but I just don't ever seem to...
@winterfox10 - You can try various social meetups online. Try meetup. com. A word of advice though: when you do engage in people of the opposite sex who are into the same things you are, just treat them like you would a guy friend. The goal of the activity, in my opinion at least, should be to have fun. The moment you try and make it more about meeting a potential mate than about having fun in whatever endeavor you've decided to go for, that's when you people can start smelling the faint whiff of desperation.
My friend, you're only 25. Don't worry so much about finding a girlfriend or potential mate. Go out there, do the things you love, improve yourself, bring yourself to the next level, be the best that you can be - and I'm certain that when the time is right, you'll meet someone you enjoy spending time with. Of course, there are bound to be bumps along the way, dark turns on this road we call life - but always remember that there is always someone out there for you.
I'm not like... super worried about it. But all through out my life, I've never really had good female friendships and relationships. They're not bad, but they don't have staying power either, and I would like to change that.
@Winterfox10 - The fact that you WANT to change that speaks well of your burgeoning maturity. Go for it!
Thanks for the vote of confidence, man! Just trying to be the best man I can be
You are so funny Mr Winter, you answered your own question in your first sentence..."the same way I would with male friends". The world a girl lives in and the world a guy lives in are totally different. You can not try to relate to her as you do with guys. The vast majority of girls are into relationships, not hobbies like guys. You have to be interested in things like "how she feels" and "what she thinks" about things. Take a personal interest in her mind. She is not into "things" and "projects" like boys are, she wants to know that you care about her world, whatever it is, which is mostly relational and psychological, but not material, as that is last on most girls lists, unless they're gold diggers, except to know that the guy she would pick could take care of her and her children when it's time for that. Once she knows you are interested in her and how she thinks and feels, than she will take an interest in the things that interest you more. Remember next time when you are talking to a girl, you are not talking to "just another male friend". Good luck Mr Winter :)
There are plenty of women who are into sports and camping. In fact, guess what? The US Women's Football team are Number One in the world! With Title IX, there are a good proportion of girls who've taken to sports like no generation before them. Think about all the soccer parents, swim parents in the US alone - I doubt they're only driving their sons to sports practice. Are the women who love and engage in sports some alien species that we have yet to discover? I doubt it. They're human, just like all of us.
Also, I disagree with your dichotomy that one can either love relationships (supposedly a girl thing) or love sports (supposedly a guy thing). That's one of the biggest fallacies I've seen. As if the fact that a person loves sports preclude them from being able to engage in healthy relationships with people of the opposite sex and vice versa. The two are in no way mutually exclusive spheres. To think otherwise is to do great injustice to the limitless potential of humanity.
Since not one thing I said entered your male brain, which doesn't surprise me, It would be pointless to argue with you wouldn't it Mr Dante? You are right again, as you always are 100% of the time, aren't you Mr Dante? And what planet did you say you are from Mr Dante, or did I miss that part?
Can you give me some idea of what taking an interest in her mind looks like?
Thank you for asking Mr Winter. Truthfully, I wasn't sure what I was going to get after Mr Dante got through with his rant. Basically, you need to find out what interests her, in other words, don't make it all about you. Once you know, then focus on that in much of your discussions. She won't mind hearing about what interests you if you first show her that you care about the things that are important to her, but you have to be sincere. If the things that interest her most don't appeal to you at all, than don't lead her on, find another girl who's interests you can relate to, just know that in most cases they won't all be guy things, they will be girl things, so the more girl things you can get interested in the better off you will be. Believe me I say the same things to the girls about how to attract boys by getting to know what interests them to, so that way we can all work and live together in harmony. Make sense a little bit Mr Winter?
Honestly... no... that doesn't make sense to me at all. How am I supposed take interest in something if she doesn't communicate anything beyond binge drinking and shopping? Any interest, even a girly interest, would at least be something. I can work with something. Many girls don't give you anything. I used to think that it maybe it was because they weren't interested, but now I'm not sure. I think that they don't give you anything to go on, because there simply isn't anything there.
Ok Mr Winter, well I have given you all the help that I can but nothing can chop it's way through the concrete barier that some boys have in place of skulls, sorry :(
No no, I'm teachable... can you tell me what taking an interest in her would look like to you? Like how would I take an interest in you?
You definitely have a type. There are PLENTY of girls out there who have hobbies. I love to paint and draw... Even tho I'm not good at them. Its for ME. it relaxes ME. I love to cook. I'm told im a great cook. I love traveling and hiking. Film is a hobby of mine. I love finding that obscure Indy film that was never mainstream because the acting is raw, the writing is perfect, and the score is natural. My best friends hobby has always been writing, and she has her first novel coming out Tuesday. She has a full time job-she wrote a book on the side and it took her a couple of years but she loves the process. My other best friend absolutely lives for anything nature, and she even has a fashion blog for the upscale and the down to earth.
Get away from your niche. We are out there.
Where do I find you, oh fair @Tiffers2154 ? My heart yearns for you
Lmao!!! I'm in Indiana. And I totally hear tho. Dating sucks. On my end its usually after talking once "lets fuck" or the guy has absolutely NO ambition. I can't seem to find a guy who knows how to hold a conversation when its not about sex.
Dont get me wrong... I'm not a prude and I can Have a dirty fucking mind... But I dont want to show that side until. I think there is more compatibility. These days its sex first and maybe we work out later
I'm on the first plane there! lol You're right though, I do have a type, and it low key really sucks. It seems like the only girls who give me any attention are, preppy, boujee brown girls. I'm white and I couldn't get a white girl to save my life.
Lmao. Omg thats horrible. Its ok. If I'm honest, I set my standard at Tom Hiddleston. Not on looks (dont get me wrong he is very easy on the eyes) but with his attitude, compassion, work ethic, gratitude, sense of humor... Just he is like the perfect guy in a single body. I would take a guy with like half his qualities. But I'm on the wrong continent. Its all 'Murica over here and I'm so over it!
Oh okay. I know a lot of American women who really like European men... I never understood the fascination with Europe. I mean it's okay but like... they're basically just Americans with a different accent.
True. But in his case, its an entirely different type of upbringing which shows in his actions. If I met an American with half his class I would be all for it. But I haven't... single, anyway.
My family is also German. Ill admit I've got some cousins over there with some very fine looking friends. Lol.
You and I would get along extremely well.
Lol. Let me guess... you're out on the west coast?
I definitely belong out there, but no. I'm from Pennsylvania.
Hahaha ok. Yeah me too. I'm not the "typical Hoosier". Especially politically.
What part of PA are you from? I'm from Lancaster.
Lol. IN. Elkhart. (North central)
Oh I thought you meant that you were from PA too. My bad. Look at us! We've had our first fight and I totally apologized for something I'm only partially at fault for... we gon' be gettin' hitched real soon lil' lady
Lol! People just dont know how to communicate anymore. They think everything has to be perfect, and flee at the first sight of trouble. So there is a great line from a chick flick that goes something like "you won't see the bad times in a photo album, but theyre what get you from one happy snapshot to the next." I've loved that line always. Ever since I first heard it. Sorry. Rant over lol
That's a great line... another one that I heard was from Scrubs. JD (the main character, if you haven't seen the show) just flips out and goes on this 3 or 4 minute rant about how all the people around him are just bitching to him constantly about their relationships, and the only thing that is helping him keep it together is knowing that none of them realize what they have.
Omg I could recite Scrubs, I swear! And I LOVE that he did that! When I have something go wrong in my house... Like my damn back door has been broken for like a year... I will occasionally put on facebook for people not to take their S. O. for granted because they have no idea what its like trying to be on your own. People just dont know gratitude anymore either. Damn boy you have me feeling like I'm 70! "Kids these days..." 😜
When I fly out to Indiana, you're gonna be feeling a lot younger than that lmao!
Hahaha.
I'm sure girls have hobbies but there's no time in this century. Everyone is busily working, catching up with friends' life which need to forgo some activities to enjoy their hobbies. I always pack my days with activities which I forgo some sleeping time. My fav ones are reading, gym & running!
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I don’t think that means THEY’RE boring. More you don’t have any similar interests in common. I’m an outdoorsy type so I’ll get into anything adventurous. So yeah you must be choosing ones based on other things besides common hobbies and interests. That’s down to you to fix because there are plenty of varied people out there.
Ain’t nobody got time for hobbies. I personally prefer to build and nurture relationships because they are more fulfilling.
How though? How do you nurture a relationship if there isn't a shared, enjoyable activity that you can do together?
We communicate about all sorts of things, encourage each other, joke around and laugh. It’s good for our mental health because in a lot of ways it’s how we de-stress. We do all this during activities like eating together, shopping, or going out on the town (AKA girl’s night).
But I do have “regular hobbies.” They just don’t pop up in my mind automatically when someone asks. I always tend to mention the things that bring me the most joy I guess.
Would you do it the same way with a guy?
Not really. Some conversations are just better with women. Also, most guys hate shopping and they start rushing you.
With guys it’s different. It’s normal for us to go along with what they already enjoy doing. Like my husband is really into video games, and so am I, but sometimes he stays home all weekend to do that and I don’t like that.
So what I'm gathering is that I need to take an interest in the girl's mind, then, as we start doing things I enjoy together, her hobbies and the shit she actually enjoys doing will reveal itself?
Kind of. You can certainly talk about your hobbies and see how she responds. Some girls are up for anything, but either they don’t have the time or the money to do the activities they enjoy as often as they’d like to. That means they can only really talk about the things they actually have time and money to do that are still high in value.
Oh okay. Well, thank you for your help. Can I reach out to you in the future if I have any questions? I really appreciate your insights
Of course! I’ll tend to provide different perspectives on things, not always what you want to hear.
those are the most useful kind!
Well come on then.
I have read elsewhere before now that men tend to bond over doing things together whereas women will bond more by talking and catching up etc. Although not a rule set in stone I do think there’s some truth to that.
I've noticed that also, they like what they like i guess. but its alright i have many hobbies so if they want they can join me.
It's kind of hard for me to be excited about spending time with someone if there's nothing to do...
You make the adventure my man, I have no problem taking them by the hand and showing them around. Pushing the envelope and trying new things.
They do, just boring ones like make up and hair etc. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy that too but most of the time I’d rather be outdoors doing something active or sporty - thank god for my guy friends.
Even those are SOMETHING though... Like if hair fascinates you, tell me about hair. It's more interesting than going to the mall with your girlfriends every weekend.
It's true, a lot of people don't really have any interests, I don't think it's just women though.
I'm the same way lol I literally just don't have time. Work, study and going out to events takes up my whole week 😢
I have noticed most women don't have many hobbies if any apart from doing the usual things that everyone does.
You need to meet more interesting girls
Yeah, no kidding... where and how do I find these interesting women folks you speak of?
Ask and you shall receive
That kinda response right there, is exactly why I'm single.
@Hapinus @Kandy-Kane hobbies?
@Hapinus those others don’t count 😠
@Hapinus I was talking about cod 😡
@Hapinus it’s not a hobby 😤
Even though I hate CoD, I wish it was the game you’re talking about
@Hapinus no, I’m more of a MoH kinda guy
@Hapinus Medal of Honour
@Hapinus and I like shooting Nazis
Are you kidding me
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