Personally I do. I stopped liking the bad boys in high school. Great question 👌
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I like sweet, respectful, goofy and attractive
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I stopped caring about such questions, nice guy/bad boy is a false dichotomy. These terms are usually shorthand for a set of behaviours that go beyond niceness or lack thereof.
I think women are attracted-- broadly speaking-- to men of value. Men who KNOW their unique value, and live in accordance with their strengths.
For example, i believe my value comes down to my intelligence, empathy, loyalty, easygoing nature, thoughtfulness, and curiosity.
Of course i have weaknesses too-- sometimes i can procrastinate or leave important tasks unfinished; i can be anxious and prone to low moods and social withdrawal. But I understand where my value originates, and nobody can take that from me.
Now, I'm usually more "nice" than "bad", so if you wanna be reductionist, you could say I'm a nice guy and be done with your character analysis. But that leaves out so much information about that person.
I think what "bad boys" usually have is social dominance, apathy (which some girls mistake for being "mysterious"), a high sex drive, and an opportunistic nature that detaches sex from morality. The bad boy will cuck an unwitting husband without a second thought, coz the bad boy only cares about sexual gratification, and doesn't much care how his actions affect others. So he will do things to get laid that nice guys would draw the line at. And as a byproduct of this, the bad boy will do the socially dominant moves that turn women on but are considered taboo in polite "nice" society.
Nice guys can learn a thing or two from the bad boys, especially when it comes to the assertive IDGAF attitude and confidence. But long term, going through life without a moral anchor or empathy for others is a recipe for personal disaster. Whats the point of going to the grave with a thousand bedposts notches, yet totally unloved and unmourned?
I’m going to get a lot of hate from men and a lot of blue down votes with this answer, but here it is. The jerks win because they’re elusive with us. We don’t like jerks, but honestly certain “nice” guys think being nice entitles them to sex then throw little shit fits when the woman doesn’t give it to them. These “nice” guys turn out to be jerks as well. Not saying you’re like that, but that’s why the jerks always win.
I’m not telling you to be an asshole. If you’re genuinely a nice guy who treats everyone with respect without any expectations the right woman will appreciate that. Women have these same expectations with guys too and bitch about being the “nice” girl and getting overlooked for trashy girls. It’s equally annoying.
The bitches and jerks present a challenge, and with that challenge also comes the authenticity of knowing where you stand with these people.
Might have to disagree with you a bit here. The women I know don't like jerks. Same with the men. They like ATTRACTIVE jerks and bitches. Sometimes.
When was the last time you heard of someone saying, "That ugly jerk? Yeah, he may be a jerk, but Ima go for him because he's a challenge and I know where i stand with him." I've never heard any such thing. I *have* heard, "Yeah, he's a jerk... but he's hawt (or she's a bitch... but she's hawt)"
It seems to me that in virtually all cases of men and women dating jerks, it's because the jerk in question is physically attractive to them, not because of any honesty or knowing where one stands or challenges. Ugly jerks and bitches are overwhelmingly viewed as being jerks and bitches, not challenges.
As a species we give more credit to people who are attractive to us. Are you familiar with the halo effect?
I’m aware of the halo effect however I don’t buy into it. I might consider a man to be physically attractive but I want nothing to do with him if he flat out stinks as a human being. That being said just because it doesn’t work on me doesn’t mean it doesn’t work so I do see your point.
When I hear guys describe themselves as nice I typically think...
passive, soft, shy, overly sensitive , fearful and risk averse... and the result of all that often plays out as boring, always over thinking and in their headspace
I’m fine with nice just not particularly attracted to someone whose primary qualities are as I described
i would look for respectful, considerate, appropriately assertive, adventurous... nice would be one aspect of this guy but not the single word I’d use to describe him. He’s also distinctly not an asshole from my perspective though I reckon some “nice” guys may think he is.
Good grief, keep this up and I'm going to vote for you for President for making too much sense. Well said!
I think it simply as he's confident and has self esteem to be himself.
Girls LIKE nice guys. They just won't date them because they're stupid and think dating shitty dudes is fun cause they are influenced by toxic relationships they see all around them. A nice guy consists of an honest person. Girls dont like getting called on their bullshit and since they know "nice guys " aren't on bullshit it's not "fun".
by the way not all females are like this but goddamn a bunch are.
"girls don't like being called on their bullshit" - are you sure about that? Maybe I read that wrong... girls I've been around seem to appreciate when I see through their facade. Otherwise... well said...
@lightbulb27 that's why I said not all females aren't like that but yeah you get the point loool
I don't think niceness really counts for all that much on its own. Superficial traits like height, athletic body, aesthetic face have a much stronger correlation with the size of your dating pool than how nice you are does.
The way I see it is if you're average or below average looking no amount of niceness is going to make you as desirable as a hot guy. And if you are a conventionally attractive guy being an asshole isn't going to hurt your chances enough with women to justify trying to become more nice.
So TLDR it doesn't really matter if you are nice or not. What matters is how you look and maybe how entertaining you are to talk to/hang out with.
@Bluemax
It can but not enough that you will be perceived as equally as desirable as those on the right end of the attractiveness curve and as far as personality is concerned I think confidence and how entertaining you are has a much stronger stronger impact on your attractiveness than kindness does.
If you say so.
There's difference between nice guys, and niceguys.
The problem is, the line has started to blur between them, since "niceguys" do not realize the fact that they, infact, are everything but nice.
"niceguy" - person who acts nice, untill they get rejected. Then they become the biggest assholes in history.
100% of the girls that fall in love with me, fall in love because I'm kind, caring and don't show them any romantic or sexual attention unless they show it first.
Be normal, like with guy friends. Showing signs of wanting more may hinder an otherwise perfect friendship. Girls won't drop like flies around you, but some do. And I like to say that only the right ones do (:
Of course we do. We just don't want a guy that does everything for us. We want you to know your value and be your own person.
Plus it can get overwhelming when a man puts more into you than you have to give for him. And the person giving more will eventually become resentful they aren't getting what they give.
Otherwise we want the gentleman that knows how to treat us and love us. Just remember your worth.
The thing is, everyone can be nice and every can be not so nice.
A girl just wants someone who won't screw her over or treat her like an Idiot.
I dated a so called " bad boy" for three years, but he was never bad to me. We're not together anymore but we've got a little boy, and he and I still get along well. We look out for each other.
Whereas you can meet so called good guys who are low key mean and disrespectful. They just hide it under the guise of being seen as "nice"
@nathanp97 Ha, no. I didn't mean it quite like that.
I meant that we label bad and good. Nice and not so nice, when anyone is can be either. I think that's what I was trying to say.
We can only take people as we find them.
Depends on if you mean that creepy person that thing's thay are entitled to get something because they do what they do or a genuine noce person.
The last one.
Yeah.
Female's that have developed past a certain point usually get attracted to it and even sexual attraction.
Those that aren't they are either lower developed or damaged. same thing.
The funny thing is to many have problems to understand what actually sparks female's in different ways.
What we need to do/trigger.
This goes for both genders, not specific to females.
Then you have some extra influenced mental thing's we have put in our minds that influences what and how we should do that makes it to a obstacle course. how many obstacles someone has depends on what the person in question have chosen to put up.
It's a lot of thing's in a multi dimensional chart.
i love nice guys as long as they are genuine and not faking it or making it conditional on me doing things for them
A Nice Guy is not the same as a nice guy. You should look into it. Nice Guys think they’re entitled to a girls attention/love/sex because they’re nice: ie they’re not really nice they just want something and pretend to be nice, then get upset when you reject them.
If you’re truly nice for the purpose of being nice and don’t expect anything, girls love that.
Men and women alike want people who are attractive to them. I've found that sometimes this can make niceness take a back seat to other considerations. People then misinterpret this as women only want to date jerks.
No, they want to date men they're attracted to.
So the trick is to become attractive to your target sex. Don't just be nice.
Girls like nice guys. But some girls are just a bit too complicated to go for these types of guys. It’s a shame, they miss out on being treated nice because they are so intrigued by toxicity.
They way I'm feeling at the moment I feel however nice I have been people are expecting me to be this picture perfect person. I'm sorry if that was the case I wouldn't have the problems i do have.
All girls want nice guys if they are hot. They are not interested in nice guys if they are not hot.
Super good looking hot guys don't have to be nice because if they snap their fingers, girls will drop their panties. And, since new girls, (girls they haven't fucked) are better than old girls, hot guys find them, fuck them, then dump them for the next pretty girl.
Average looking guys have to be nice guys because otherwise, they have no chance to get a girl.
Everyone has a different idea of what a “nice guy” is. When I hear “nice guy” in this context, I believe it is reference to a man who is always saying “yes” to a woman, never disagreeing with her, can’t stand up for himself, etc.
Definitely, like bad guy is only an stereotype and honestly I think it’s better that kind of guy you have lots in common, that guy who you are going to learn from and that guy who’s going to be there when u most need it
I do fahhhh but they dont like me. I get along with boys trust me, its because im a total tomboy they only see me as a mate. Ahahahahahha damn... that hurts
Be KIND, not NICE. Everybody can be nice, but kindness comes from the heart and not every oxy is a kind person.
I'm in general friends with bad boys so I think you stand a chance.
Girls want guys whose time they value. The problem with "nice guys" is that they don't make people, and women specifically, value their time. Through out my life, I have NEVER been called nice, and the reason is simple: I make people value my time.
They do, it's just that a lot of self proclaimed "nice guys" aren't really that nice
Elliot Rogers called himself a "nice guy" while putting himself on a pedestal and called women dumb whores and men unworthy of women
Yes and no. They want to be treated with respect but generally aren't receptive to those who beat around the bush. I also wouldn't say that simply being nice trumps other undesirable traits you might have.
NiceGuy memes are made by "Nice guys" who don't get any action and go full incel. Girls like actual nice guys
I think it's less your the nice guy and more that your the "guy friend" (ie: good to have around but nothing more). Be less attentive to the needs of your "friends" and more to yourself.
Genuinely nice and not boring? A lot do.
Genuinely nice and somewhat boring? Far fewer, but still some.
"Nice guys" aka manipulative whiners who think nice actions entitle them to affection? Nope.
Yes. I've never gone for "bad guys". I require kindness, someone I can trust. Someone to make me laugh. Why would I want someone bad?
Girls say they like nice guys and I believe them. However, there is huge difference between liking a nice guy and being attracted to a nice guy.
Niceness seldom generates attraction in women for men
Some girls do. Some girls don't. For some nice guys, they think only being nice is the only thing that's gonna attract a girl. its not
lol i was convinced you were fucking dumb...
but damn lads and gents, this is the excact answer and @izumiblu explains
i m saying bc i am writing a book on female psychology
@Alex_988_2 nobody cares what you think cuz you're just a troll loser who can't get dates
lol i was appreciating your dumbness for the first time and you couldnt digest this bc your are so used to getting inSLUTed
and by the way i dont do dates. its bc im getting a pussy anyway. guys bear relationship stress only for sex... but thanks to feminism women like you are so easy to get, fuck, and forget
@Alex_988_2 you're blocked.
I can't speak for all girls but I certainly like nice guys.
Of course we like nice guys. They have to be attractive too though.
I personally like a bad boy who dresses sharp and looks the part
i like whores
Not only girls. Everyone likes nice person in general but in terms of relationship the human attraction comes into play, where women likes badboy because of their confidence, attitude and personality.
No dude, they like douches who treat them like shit, that's a fact. Now of course the female filth on this site will try to tell you otherwise, but you just try it and you'll see it's true.
I still think there’s a difference between nice guys and “nice” guys.
Obviously why wouldn't a girl want to date a nice guy
Yes, but what they call nice is not what guys think they mean. Consequently, guys end up being too soft for their taste.
I thinl they would rather have good men.
Nice guys have motives.
Men have standards.
If that makes sense some of you will get it.
Don't confuse 'nice' with KIND. Girls see through the nicy-nice bullshit.
no. they want disrespectful jerks, im nice n girls get bored in a minute
They want adventurous guys. If a guy is nice they think they are a flirt. They fail to filter out the nice from a guy to seems nice.
No, females want men who are dangerous, unpredictable and physically violent to them and those around them.
When I was younger I thought I liked bad boys until I got older and appreciated a good man. Nice guys are cool
No that sounds like a movie buddy lol jocks aren't the only bad guys and jocks never was and never will be my type. As far as settling down with a responsible guy it didn't work that way. I was never looking for a relationship in the first place to settle down but it just happened naturally with my best friend who happens to be a "good man"
I'm just laughing out loud because this is literally the exact situation the group mgtow says women do. Basically they say women have their fun with the alpha bad boys when they're young and then quickly latch onto a beta male provider lol. They say young there out with 6'2 brutes and then settle with 5'6 brute when it comes to money and resources.
With any human being male or female the hope is to learn from past experiences or mistakes. So if a woman or man gets older, mature, and grow into who they will become the hope is to want better for themselves. If better for that person is picking someone who can build them up not tear them down and vise versa then that's ok. Also not EVERY woman that like a good guy want him for his money and resources.
@ThisIsMyOpinion I agree to a certain extent, but mgtow is not insanely wrong either. There is some truth to it. I mean let's be honest here, how often do you see a woman marrying a man who makes less money than her? How often do you see men with little kids going on other play dates with the other dad's in the neighborhood? Generally speaking women do look for someone with power. Height, great job, well known, etc etc. OBVIOUSLY not every single woman is like that , but I do believe it's in their nature to look for someone strong and that's completely fine. Men and women are different and seek out different things and that's ok. I believe it makes sense for women to look for someone strong to provide because if they get pregnant and can't work who's going to support? Yes, the husband.
@esova actually I have more than one friend in a serious relationship where the girlfriend makes more and I am actually married to a girl that makes more than me. Not a lot more, but more. I don't think is that much of a deal breaker for them unless we literally have no job. About father getting together for a playtime with their kids that I don't see is true.
I mean who doesn't want a partner that can provide for the house. They want a strong man we want a beautiful women, fair is fair.
Both look for an attractive partner that can hold his/her own on the world.
Like I said it's not set and stone for every woman but I would say over 90% of relationships the man is making more money. I mean, my uncles wife brings in a lot more money than him but that's also because he got ill a few years back so he didn't work. Them subconsciously seeking out that stuff makes sense to me just like the things men subconsciously seek out in a partner makes sense to me. But of course I agree that women want a good life long partner to be with, not just for money and resources. But I was just saying that what mgtow says isn't insanely wrong either. People like to think that they're crazy and are just extremely out of this world but a few points they make may have some underlying truth to it.
If it is genuine and they're still a strong person and not a door mat absolutely, i like kind people unkind is a turn off.
Women wamt nice guys if they are tall, fit and confident. They don't like average looking overly nice guys like timid, loser type of nice guys.
The only nice guys women actually go for are the one that DO NOT COMPROMISE THEMSELVES and are following their purpose in life
Cool dude with a good heart, yes. A sissy pushover then no.
Don't focus on what girls want, focus on what you want in a girl.
Yes but they have to be attractive also.
are you really 35?
no girls donr want nice guys i found out the hard way
A "nice" man never killed a Woolly Mammoth. It's in the DNA of women to not want a "nice" guy.
You would be surprised...
If a girl says you are nice that means you got friendzoned. Sorry dude.
They say they do but then they change their ways and go for the douchebags
Bruh I'm a nice guy and still single. Does that answer the question?
Well, they do, that is to say as the have had their part of (negative) experiences with bad guys...
I like nice guys that are also a bit on the wild side too.
No they want kind guys.
That's a better word :) "niceguys" are usually passive-aggressive and nobody got time for their drama
Of course, the latter are preferred
This!!
They want a bad guy who is nice to them. 😝
The mature ones do
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