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Are trans girls real girls? (Page 2)
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No. Are people who work in garages, really cars?
Don't have a problem with trans people. But its getting ridiculous that they want rights right now, when Blacks and women still haven't got equality.
We know the world is truly on the highway to hell if someone has to ask if a trans girl - a guy trying to be a female but isn't - is a real girl.
Trans women are women, trans men are men.
Trans girls are real girls. Trans boys are real boys
Enough said.
NO to be real boy/ men you need to have XY chromosomes and to be real girl/ woman you need to have XX chromosomes. No amount of anything will change that. You can pass it when you look like other sex but you can never be one. trans people are somewhere in the middle, probably closer to there chromosomes sex than one they want.
I've always felt a connection with the black community, and I feel that I don't fit in among fellow whites. For that reason I believe that I am black. If you disagree with me, you're racist.
@__inkRat The chromosome thing is way more complicated than that.
@SamtheDnDgirl actually it’s very uncomplicated. You either have two X’s or you don’t. It is binary, yes binary. Science.
@Jersey2 It's not that simple, sadly. And science has shown that as well.
your post is more dogma than argument. being trans is a delusion not a fact, they are not real women. no amount of wishing otherwise makes it true
@SamtheDnDgirl well yee I simplified it a bit, i was talking about majority.
How does it make one transphobic when you find out your date has a penis? That's catfishing to the max. Anyway no. You can't just 100 percent change your gender and go from man to childbearing woman.
No. They are men who identify internally as women. Biologically, they are men.
No, because they weren't born a girl so they're not a girl.
This is just word salad. WTF is a “real girl”. I’ll call people whatever they want to be called, using whatever pronouns they prefer. I do think that it’s reasonable to have separate athletic events for people without Y chromosomes.
If you have a penis, you are still a male.
If you have your penis cut off and gender surgery is done, and you now have a vagina, you are female.
Not true. If you’re born male and have a complete sex change surgery, you may look like a female but you’re still a male.
That would be changing their sex. Their gender can be whichever they’re comfortable with.
having a fake manufactured vagina does not make you female
You can paint stripes on a lion, but that doesn't make it a tiger. Your logic is horrible.
@007kingifrit what are you kind of a bitchh
Yes, it's a matter of self-identification.
If they identify and feel as a girl, then they're girls. Period
Wow this site is full of transphobes. Not surprised
I dont even know anymore what they are.
they're men in elaborate dressup
Do u mean girls who have transitioned to be boys or boys who have transitioned to be girls.
I think it is useful to clarify what u mean by real. Biologically they r the gender they are born into regardless of surgery but if they want to present as something different then that is fine I don’t have any issue with that
Nope they are still considered women but I think of them like the artificial type
well that makes them not real women
A trans female = her sex that she was born with is male❤️ but her gender is female a gender is what u identity with
that's a pseudoscience definition of gender. gender is just a synonym for sex you are not allowed to "identify" yourself, identity does not exist and is not a scientific concept
sex is what your born with and gender is what u choose to Identify as❤️ and why are u so concerned about my community anyways like they aren’t hurting u so mind your business ✨
no your definition of gender is fake. it is pseudoscience to ask people what they identify as its not empirical and you can give any answer.
gender and sex are the same thing, the stuff you were taught in school is wrong
Anyways like I said my community doesn’t concern u so stop worrying about trans people
actually it does, what you do affects me because we live in a society together; everything you do affects me and so i have the right to involve myself in it
Actually it doesn’t cause people being fucking trans isn’t hurting u it doesn’t effect your life and u can’t do shit about the lgbtq community so sit down✨
Take that homophobic shit somewhere else✌️
Transphobic**
being trans does hurt us. it ruins women's sports, and the progesterone stuff you take makes you hyper sensitive and hyper violent, you spread aids more than anyone else and worst of all you damage our understanding of science by trying to legitimize pseudoscience
gender is not a scientific concept
Lmao not u being dramatic about someone whose just living their life and isn’t worried about u✋😳 u better get that checked out
nothing i said was dramatic, you just don't want to admit those are legit concerns becuase you would have to admit your life is a net negative on the world
i can tell from our other conversation you are super closed minded, super aggressive, super uneducated and you can't think straight. this is a result of your trans mental disorder. this hurts all of us
Ofc I’m close minded cause your insulting my community ❤️ mind your business and let people live their life
feelings don't make facts, your community is nothing but people thinking they are something. they aren't
Don’t care about a transphobic and homophobic persons opinion ❤️bye
People can call themselves whatever they want. I can paint a number on my side and say I'm a race car. But reality is reality, so no, they are not real girls.
Well biologically no, but in their minds they like being a lady, as long as they tell me their status, and if they are nice to me particularly when I might be drunk, because that's when I'm most unpredictable, I will be nice to them back.
Yawn. You clowns need to come up with something new.
bro you just posted cringe
Girls have an XX Chromosome. Boys have an XY chromosome. That doesn't change regardless of how many surgeries you have.
Biologically, they're not. Socially, they might be accepted as such...
Absolutely not.
Can I identify as a duck? How about my age, race, height, etc. Can I change those based on what I identify as?
I like ladyboys, they turn me on. But they are not women, period.
Not by sex. By mind yes. Not really that hard to explain or understand.
Real perverts and degenerates who mutilate their bodies to carry on a fraud and live an abnormal life, maybe; but not real girls. Females are born, not made.
No offense but they are male to me.
@Cryptic-Game - what do you think of it bro?
If we are going to go out of our way to say this stuff. We need to define what a “real girl” is. Unless we do that, I’m going to say technically no.
No, they not. I wonder if those liberal guys will smash a trans girl since they are the ones that get triggered if we call those trans girl a dude.
No there men who think there women, You can’t change your gender
To be a girl you need to be born a girl.
Just like boys
It depends on what you mean by real girls. If you mean are they really female, no. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against transgender people but from a biological perspective they are simply not female.
I've always felt a connection with the black community, and I feel that I don't fit in among fellow whites. For that reason I believe that I am black.
No. That's why we call them trans girls. Not just "girls".
A real girl is female, no amount of deception can change that
If by "real" you mean, biological then no. But who cares? Everyone is entitled to human rights regardless of whether they're cisgendered.
you abuse the term human rights you have no idea what a right is or what it means. you can't just declare things rights
Mentally maybe, probably yes most of the time. Physically no, still XY (male) chromosomes, reproductive organs, body composition etc.
I have seen several researches about their mentality, if the brain activity suits a function of a female. Mixed findings.
No.
I don't hate them, I won't misgender or stereotype then, but it still don't make 'em women.
HEY, IT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVEL, OKAY?
I don't think it matters. I personally don't judge. Just not my type.
Nope, unless they have a XX chromosome they are not a girl.
of course not, they have none of the components of a woman they are just dressing up
If they feel they are real girls then yes, however in my mind if they were born Male then they are still Male.
Trans females are biologically male with some mental disabilities.
So they're not real girls.
Are ducks real dogs?
No, they are not the same. There's a reason why their called transwomen and biologicals women are called women. If they were real girls from the get go, then it would defeat the purpose of transitioning? What would be the reason to go through hormones therapy, feminization's surgery, etc. if they were already real women? Plus trans women do not go through the same thing as real women do, by and large, most biological women produce estrogen, have periods, have a uterus, give birth, have to breast exams and pap tests, experience issues like pcos, fibroids etc. These are things trans women will never experience unlike real women. Even though some biologicals women might not experiences those issues either, it still doesn't change the fact that they are biological nor exceptions make the rule.
define real girls and I’ll give you an answer
Someone who was born with a vagina
Gender is biological and chosen by god, the gender you are at birth, that’s ur gender,
If at birth you have penis, you male,
If vagina, ur female
Simply acting like a woman or making yourself look like a woman as a guy, does not mean you are a guy,
Gender is all to do with your genitalia at birth
I mean it doesn’t not mean you’re woman
No, because there all incapable of getting pregnant.
If you were born with a penis, you are not a girl. That is an indisputable fact.
Nope. They are men who have had a lot of surgeries. That's all.
Yes, they are. Our gender is defined over time, and a penis or vagina doesn't prevent anything.
That is by far the dumbest thing I’ve read today...
Thank you, education system for turning out another moron. 👎
gender is an unscientific concept; it can't be studied empirically and is thus pseudoscience. don't ever think about it like that or you will be fooled into believing anything
@_louise_amd_ good for you, don't mind the insults, there is no logic in mudslinging, it's just a tactic of the lost. I hope you don't let the abusive name calling bother you.
@007kingifrit Gender is scientific. Not only do we have multiple studies that show gendered behavior in humans, it also shows it in children, in infants and toddlers, and even in other primates. Brain scans and neurobiological research shows distinct differences between male and female brains in composition, structurally, and activity of brain regions. This is a well studied field and its well documented that gender does in fact exist.
In fact you would not have transgender people if gender didn't exist because then they wouldn't be able to feel like the opposite gender. In addition the fact that they have an innate feeling of being the opposite gender shows that not only does gender exist but that its biological in nature.
@hellionthesagereborn you are using the old definition of gender (synonym for sex) i am responding to @_louise_amd_ who used a new age pseudoscience definition of gender. not the same thing
@007kingifrit No, I am not. Sex and gender are largely the same with very few exceptions (transgenders). However I was very specific by pointing out that gender differences are very much a thing both in behavior and in biological terms.
@hellionthesagereborn yea all the differences in "gender" you listed are things i agree with, you are using the traditional definition of gender. as opposed to the OP of this post who says "gender is whatever you FEEL" which is nonsense
@007kingifrit Well you said gender was unscientific which its not hence my confusion.
@hellionthesagereborn you are forgetting there are 2 definitions of gender
@007kingifrit No their isn't, their is only one, the definition, and attempts to ignore that definition to push a narrative. I go by the definition.
some over do it. but i have seen some that are natural-mentally.
No.
A rabbit doesn't become a goat because he decides to.
If you have a dick, you are not a. chix.
no they are not , it's literally described as a mental illness
Men pretending to be women are still men
Cutting your dick off doesn't make you a girl. LOL
As real as a 3 dollar bill.
No they're not.
what do you wana bet that the 3 women who downvoted you aren't real women either =p
It's like cosplay in my opinion
I'M EXTREMELY OFFENDED WEEB.
I'm sorry
Why?
I'm not offended lol
Cool
Stop it, get some help
Technically no
Correct pm me to talk
Why?
Yeah I wouldn’t pm him. Just screams creeper moment
Good question 🤔
whats the answer
They're not real real girls, but close.
You 14 you just started taking biology in HS. I hope you biology teacher teach you something useful.
@JustTheTrue nowadays a biology class will probably lie to her and push activism
@007kingifrit that’s why I’m hoping she get a teacher who teach her something useful.
@JustTheTrue Ok, but like if you weren't born a girl you aren't gonna be a real authentic one. There's nothing you can really do about it. That's why I said you can get close.
@_Mood_ no guy can ever be close to a girl physically. If mentally is because they have issues and need serious help.
What do you mean when you say “real girl”?
Is the Y chromosome real?
The question asker is obviously a transsexual.
You already had the freedom to do what you did to yourself. If you live in the west you are well protected against anti-discrimination laws. Most likely you are going to be “elevated” for being so “brave”. If I saw you in real life I would just take one look at you and then go with my day. Mind my own business and as you should mind yours.
But that’s not good enough for you isn’t it? No. You want to control what people actually think of you. You want 2 + 2 = 5. You want to play victim and hero at the same time. You want men to look at you the same way men look at real women who were born with ovaries. You want to control people.
I got news for you. You made your bed now lie in it. If you don’t like what other people then TOUGH LUCK. You are the one who went through with this decision. No one else forced you. Unless you were born a hermaphrodite which is exceedingly rare then this was a psychological choice you made.
It’s funny how leftists criticize conservatives for being “science deniers” but when it comes to transsexuals they want to completely deny basic cold hard fact biology. The entire animal kingdom has is divided in two genders. I’ve yet to see studies of dogs and cats bizarrely identifying and behaving like the opposite gender. But as sick as this world is becoming I would be surprised that one day some looney would force their poor dog to undergo gender transition surgery.
Wow that trans girl in the picture is beautiful