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No, transgender women are not real women. Being male or female is not based on what a person feels or identifies as, but rather strict biological criteria. Being male or female is determined by a person's role of reproduction, which is, in turn, determined by a person's sex chromosomes. If a person has 46, XX chromosomes with the biological role of producing egg cells and carrying a fetus, that person is female. If a person has 46, XY chromosomes with the biological role of producing sperm cells and fertilizing egg cells, that person is male. The genitals, the penis and vagina, which are also determined by sex chromosomes in the womb, ensure that these reproduction roles are carried out, meaning that genitals are basic indicators of a person's sex. Simply identifying as the opposite sex and/or undergoing hormone treatment and surgery to resemble the opposite sex doesn't alter the sex chromosomes or biological roles. At best, such treatment can stop the biological roles from functioning correctly, but not actually completely change them. Thus, regardless of how convincing they might look, transgender women are still men and transgender men are still women. Believe me when I say that this answer isn't coming from a place of hate, but rather a place of science. You can't argue with science.
@gaygod_19 Intersex people are deviants. They are nothing more nor nothing less. If anything makes people different it is most likely the environment that we live in, with hormones in our food, and pollution/poison in our air and water. It's a wonder that anyone is normal anymore.
@gaygod_19: Sex and gender are often used synonymously and the existence of intersex people is irrelevant to whether or not transgender people are truly the sex they're claiming to be.
Being a man or woman is not based on genitalia or ability to get pregnant, get someone pregnant, etc.
Seriously. I mean, would you tell a man who had his genitals mangled in an accident that he was “not a real man”? Would you tell a woman who was struggling with infertility issues she’s “not a real woman”?
Being a man or woman goes beyond your genitalia. If you don’t believe that, okay I guess. But please, out of respect for others and their situation you cannot comprehend, don’t ever tell someone else they are not “real” because of your belief.
@AllieOops Being intersex is a naturally occurring variation in humans, and it isn't a medical problem — therefore, medical interventions (like surgeries or hormone therapy) on children usually aren't medically necessary. But tbh who is really 100% normal? None of us is really normal, not u and for sure not me either lmfao so shut up about being "normal"
@zeitgeist057: Being a man or woman is based on reproduction roles and sex chromosomes, which are established after birth. Genitals work as indicators of those reproductive roles because they carry out those roles. Having your genitals mangled or being unable to give birth is irrelevant to whether you're a man or woman. Being unable to carry out those roles doesn't affect your sex. What matters is the role the person would have had if he or she didn't suffer genital injuries or birth related issues, and also the sex chromosomes. As long as the chromosomes remain XY or XX, the person would always be male or female no matter what. I'm also not saying they aren't real based on my belief. It's basic science. Just because a person identifies as the opposite sex doesn't make him or her the opposite sex. Being a "real" man or woman goes far beyond identification.
basic science suggest that the things u just talked about is SEX (a person's biology), but the thing is, it is not always xx or xy, some people are intersex. Sex and gender are also two different things and have been brought up dozen of times, it doesn't hurt to do some research, google is free.
and since gender is a social construct (since our biology most of the time doesn't naturally influence the way we express ourselves, society does. History proves it) the matter of the fact a trans woman is a real woman or not, is not up for other people to debate. If she identifies as a woman then she's a woman, it takes zero cent for you to respect people and move on with your life instead of using "science" to prove it while your "science is actually talking about Sex, not gender.
@gaygod_19: Yes, the primary reason intersex conditions exist is because the biological system that determines whether or not a person is male or female goes wrong. As a result, sometimes, people are born with extra chromosomes or less chromosomes. People are not supposed to be born this way. They suffer from birth defects. The existence of birth defects does not negate the existence of the XY and XX sex determination system. It is up for other people to debate. When someone makes a claim, people have the right to determine whether that claim is true or false. Being a woman is not based on simply saying "I'm a woman." To be a woman, your biological role has to involve giving birth, which is scientific. Being a "woman" is a biological label, not a personal one. Sex and gender are the same thing.
"The existence of birth defects does not negate the existence of the XY and XX sex determination system."
Since most forms of intersex do not cause any disabilities, deformities or similar malfunctions, it's neither a birth defect nor a disorder. Therefore it is rather a DIFFERENCE instead of a defect. And it's important to include everybody, don't you think? Intersex people exist and should always be included. I never said XX and XY aren't real or common, i'm just pointing out there are more than just XX and XY.
"It is up for other people to debate. When someone makes a claim, people have the right to determine whether that claim is true or false."
and i'm proving that you're only furthermore spreading discrimination and misinformation about intersex people, reffering to them as "suffering from birth defects" instead of just looking at them as simply different. Since well... most forms of intersex do not cause any disabilities, deformities or similar malfunctions, it's neither a birth defect nor a disorder.
"To be a woman, your biological role has to involve giving birth, which is scientific. Being a "woman" is a biological label, not a personal one. Sex and gender are the same thing."
tbh i don't think any amount of science and research is enough for your brain to evaluate. Science studies the function and developement of our BIOLOGY AKA OUR SEX. No science ever insist that sex and gender are the same. Being a woman is a personal label, not a biologically one. BIOLOGICALLY, you have a vagina and a uterus, and that's it. gender is a social construct, which could be proven based on history and science research.
@gaygod_19: The definition of a woman is an "adult human female." The only social construct aspect of that definition is the word "adult" because different cultures have different views on when a person becomes an adult. The term "female" is definitely biological. Thus, "woman" is not a personal label because it is based on being female. That means that people that aren't biologically women or female in general shouldn't say they are. If sex and gender are two completely different things, how do you define gender? The vast majority of the world knows that gender is a synonym for biological sex, but I'm curious to how you define it.
@gaygod_19
You said "the matter of the fact a trans woman is a real woman or not, is not up for other people to debate. If she identifies as a woman then she's a woman." With that said anyone can be anything just by identifying as that thing. If I say I am a honey badger then I am a honey badger by your way of thinking. If I say I am a refrigerator then I am a refrigerator by your way of thinking.
Ya... what she said.
@MysteriousDarkness well there’s a huge difference, people who are trans have gender dysphoria and u dont... you’re only making a mockery out of people whose gender doesn't match their sex. It’s not funny or quirky, grow up and learn to think
@Tiffany_Taylor_Made i have explained my points and i will not say it again, and i doubt you have actual read my respond to learn something or just to understand what i was saying. You just wanna win an argument without any actual strong points. Goodbye.
@gaygod_19
I stand by what I said.
Uh yes. Some people are really transphobic yeesh. Like they aren’t bothering you, they aren’t trying to control your lives like your trying to controlling theirs. (Not saying to the asker specifically but in general)
Or should we say we are moronphobic. Anyone can say 1 + 1 = 3 but hey they are not bothering anyone and we should just leave them alone with their delusions. Educating someone is not being a prick. You say they are not controlling our lives yet morons can call anyone transphobic just because he doesn't want to date "her". Isn't that a form of manipulation?
No one is trying to control them. You can’t live in an illusion forever you know
@hknmhmn4 Are you surprised?
@Aiko_E_Lara Yeah because I actually was waiting for at least 10 downvotes for my own opinion but I’m surprised if this little girl got so much downvotes although I got just one. I thought my opinion was more offensive tho lmao
@hknmhmn4 Except your opinion is the opposite of irrational.
I remember this little girl from a comment sections months ago. She supported BLM and their violence. The thing is HS kids like her try to fit in with what is trending on their school you know.
@JustTheTrue oh hey I remember you, any way I don’t care about who downvoted this. Transphobia all around I guess.
Like I said before. You are not mature enough to know how the world around you works. Also, you don’t have experience to make judgmental accusations since you are still immature.
I’m not trying to stop them. They can do what they want but, I still don’t consider them to be women.
I've always felt a connection with the black community, and I feel that I don't fit in among fellow whites. For that reason I believe that I am black. If you disagree with me, you're racist.
LOL just as trans "girls" can choose to try to be girls, sane people also have the freedom to reject that nonsense.
Freedom goes both ways.
Ah, so they are "REAL GIRLS"
Based on what?
They aren't bothering me directly. But some of the things they fight for sich as a right to participate in women's sports do impact biological women negatively.
@Missycloak And wanting to enter the women’s bathroom 🤮
@missycloak It’s not right of them
Well I think at the heart of it it's not. Lets say I have an old chevy and I want to build a Ferrari. So I get the body work and interior. Eventually it looks like the real thing. Drives nicely and all. But when I go to Ferrari to get it certified as genuine, it's rejected. If I sell it second hand, it's at 10% the value of other Ferraris because it's built by me.
For all intensive purposes people will think I have a Ferrari when I drive to the mall, but actually it's not real.
Lmfao people aren't "triggered" at your comment. They just don't buy that bullshit. Not our problem that you can't distinguish a delusion from reality. If I cut my penis off and start dressing and acting like a girl, that doesn't make me a girl. You're still genetically male. Realizing this doesn't make people "transphobic". They just don't buy into this bullshit. At the same time, what better should I expect from a 14 year old who tries to fit in by being politically correct.
"they aren't bothering you" is not the standard for truth, they are still not real women. Its just not what they are, they can't have kids, their chromosomes aren't XX, their features aren't really female and they have to fake it with makeup and wigs and whatnot
they're not women
@TruthBringer ok umm who the hell asked? Cause it wasn't me. ✌
That’s an expected response from a 14 years old who think the world revolve around them. They can’t handle criticism. They just little kids who just want to fit in to get attention to feel good about themselves. They here because they don’t get attention in real life meaning they are the unpopular kids. Lol
@JustTheTrue lol I know the world doesn't revolve around me because if it did the world would be so much better. Just because I'm on here doesn't mean I'm not popular, since you're on here does that mean your lonely? Need a hug? A gold star? Here ⭐️
@Virgo31 Ah yes, a 14 year old who knows what makes the world better. I doubt your idealistic views about a "better world" truly makes this world better. And even then, I'm not going to mock you for it. Because in the future, you will look back asking yourself the same question all of us have or will ask "What was I thinking?".
@Virgo31 the true hurt you didn’t it? Lol by the way I was talking about Akachan, but your emotional impulsive behavior made thought I was talking about you.
Well covid is happening, so my social life has die down as everything went online, so yeah that’s why I’m here. But I’m not lonely I’m away from home at the moment. When I go back home I’m going on dates with all my girls well one at a time. I’m low key popular I try not to stand out, but looks like mine don’t let me lol.
@TruthBringer @007kingifrit If you think my statement needed your opinion, good for you but uh. . . I didn't ask for it whether I posted it on a form or not.
@Akachan The only reason our replies to your invalid statement isn't asked, is because you don't like what we say. But yet again, if you don't like unwanted replies, then don't comment on an open forum. Especially at your age, it's best to stay away from this particular website considering it's full of toxic and creepy people.
@TruthBringer The comment having a lot of dislikes is a fact so how that's an "invalid statement" is beyond me but I'm glad you know your opinions are invalid.
@TruthBringer Well next time you should "quote" what your part talking about that way you don't have to further explain yourself.
@Acherer a perfect example of a no true scotsman fallacy. Yeah you can call us moron and you think that automatically validate what you said. You can called biology a moron with your own delusions and you don't think you are for whatever reason. An idiot can also choose MHO for bias reasons too so what's the point?
@Akachan what about we just just dislike what she said just like lefties disliking what biologists say? there is something called justification and giving facts to present instead of going straight to the argument saying "oh you're just transphobic and stupid" because facts don't care about feelings. By the way nobody asked for your opinion either so? Can you like a hypocrisy wear it ok for you to comment but it's not ok for us to reply. That's kind of like the double standards lefties like to push. It's only freedom of speech if you do it. right?
@Aiko_E_Lara Umm did i say you can't dislike this? I also didn't say anything like this ""oh you're just transphobic and stupid"". Also never said you can't reply to me it's just I didn't ask for it and yea my reply wasn't asked for but my reply also wasn't actually directed at anyone unlike the replies to me. And did I say something like shut up or stop talking? No i said "didn't ask" and if you think that inflicts on your freedom speech that's your problem.
"because facts don't care about feelings" Ben Shapiro. . . really i-
@Akachan You know you don't really have to say it when actions speaks louder than words. If you're not saying it then why are you even complaining about anyone against your view instead of justifying it? How about make a response instead of making reactions? "ok umm who the hell asked? Cause it wasn't me." <--- that is another example of action speaks louder than words. If you don't really want anyone's opinion then what's your point coming here anyways?
About the facts don't care about your feelings, i already agreed to that statement even if i haven't seen ben shapiro's book about it yet because it is in fact facts don't care about your feelings. "really i-" <-- you have nothing else to respond about that do you?
@Aiko_E_Lara Go read the other MHO girls opinion to see my point of view, and then my reply to it. Don't put words in my mouth, please.
Reading your answers makes me feel like you are an asshole and a moron. Your ignorance and your hatred is the problem in the LGBTQ community, not the fact that LGBTQ exists.
@Archerer Then you don't really have to put words on anyone's mouth if that's the case. You have to make a straw man argument at all just because someone gets an MHO. You just admitted at this point that you are using your feelings to explain because you feel like i'm an asshole. like is that all you can say? And you don't think you're an asshole for whatever reason because you cannot even talk properly rather than using direct name calling to someone. LGBTQ exists not for morons like you to be entitled.
So how about if I make a question like this and put anyone who's saying they're not real girls as MHO? Does that prove them right then? Because I can do that. Why not?
@Aiko_E_Lara Oh so you can't follow simple instructions...
@Archerer Am i suppose to follow your instructions? Who do you think you are tho? How about if i tell you to eat your words. Would you? It's a simple instruction
@Aiko_E_Lara You don't have to follow anything but if you want to engage in a conversation then you need to know my point of view, otherwise you are the one committing straw man fallacy, not me. Nor have I ever. That is why you continue to look like a moron and an asshole, which is fine by me. Anyway, I lost interest and don't care anymore, so peace out...
@Virgo31, you keep being you, don't let these sour ignorant butthurt snowflakes get to you... You have the right mentality and not these hateful bigots.
@Aiko_E_Lara You know what, I'm sorry that me saying "who the hell asked" made you feel like I was taking away people's rights. When in reality i was just saying "I didn't ask for your opinion". Which isn't saying shut up but could be, but i really just didn't ask and they kept replying anyway. So whats the big deal with it?
"If you don't really want anyone's opinion"
If I wanted peoples opinions I'd post a question or make my own comment.
"How about make a response instead of making reactions?" Or how bout i say whatever i want bc freedom of speech.
Yes i have nothing to say about Ben Shapiro which is why it says "really i-" and nothing else. And here I thought actions speak louder than words. Also if you've mentioned Ben before i didn't read it bc its not important to me.
@Archerer I actually know your point of view but all i see are non factual arguments coming from you and you just wanna call anyone bigots we don't even giving objective explanation about your view. So you called me an asshole because of my post. Do you even care elaborating not what? No? Then you're a bigot as well all basic things on your feelings which are subjective by the way. If you're calling me an asshole because i don't want to date a transgender then isn't the whole lgbtq about "You can't control who you love" <-- well we cannot control if we don't like transgenders because we are straight. At this point you are no just giving double standards.
@Akachan I see you are apologizing but you're still defending yourself. Again you didn't ask for it but you still have the choice not to go here if you dont want to participate in the thread.
"If I wanted peoples opinions I'd post a question or make my own comment." <--- you know what is ironic though? Nobody asked for your opinion either so you don't really have to be so defensive just because you are not asking for anyone's opinions.
"Or how bout i say whatever i want bc freedom of speech." <--- and you know what? That is what exactly we are doing and even if you like it or not. But if you really don't like it then you should have just go back to your safe space in the first place and that the grown ups talk
@Archerer "Sour butthurt snowflakes" Have you heard yourself tho? Basically butthurt about anyone who don't agree trans are real woman calling out anyone for being "transphobic" or "asshole" not realizing how butthurt you basically sound. No one is name calling here trying to dismiss argument but just name calling but you. Really that's just like saying 1+1=3 because they're morons and "triggered" if they disagree.
@Aiko_E_Lara Bro you're destroying them. Be easy on them next time 😂
@Aiko_E_Lara. . . That wasn't a real apology, honestly i thought you'd notice that.
"you're still defending yourself."
Yes I'm being defensive, who isn't? I mean yea maybe I don't have to be I choose to and I'm going stick with it.
Also "That is what exactly we are doing and even if you like it or not" I don't give a shit about their opinion. And I'm allowed to express that, so I will continue to say "who tf asked" when given an unwanted opinion and they can say it right back.
"just go back to your safe space"
Just a little fyi there is no actual safe space especially on the internet, it's the internet. And I won't be leaving so. . .✌🤘💅🐿
"when in reality i was just saying "i didn't ask for your opinion" <-- action still speaks louder than words and your still try to justify your act basically performing double standards like "i didn't ask for your opinion but i'm going to give you my opinion anyways" so is that wasn't exactly a real apology then what's your point? Because anyone can just contradicts things like "oh i'm just joking" or "that wasn't a real apology" when they realize something wrong.
Do you really not give a shit or you really do? Because if you don't then why do you still bother coming here to justify? You do care stop lying to yourself. Like what i said even if you like it or not we don't give a shit too because we can also give or opinion? Now what?
Nobody force you to come here into this thread no is there anyone? So basically you only came here to react but not freedom of speech? or freedom of being triggered? because it's freedom of how you express you say. I thought you agreed with facts don't care about your feelings. so how you express don't prove you anything
What if i told you anywhere that doesn't make you react or feel triggered is a safe space for you and are you too ignorant about that?
@Aiko_E_Lara "Because if you don't then why do you still bother coming here" Getting into arguments gets me hard that's why i keep coming back if you must know. So no i really don't care about others opinions especially when not asked for but i will continue to reply so i can properly get my fucking jewles off.
@Akachan "gets me hard" So it turns you on? Or is that just a pathetic excuse not to eat your words? So ok you don't really care about just being offended with someone just to get yourself hard? That's kinda like deliberately getting offended just to give yourself an excuse to tell anyone to shut up because "i don't care" for your personal gain. Your narcissism is showing and of course you don't care you're just being a bitch at this point.
@Aiko_E_Lara. . You seriously replied to that. . . Um ok but anyways. . . So I wasn't offended anywhere and I'm always a bitch it's kinda who am and what I stand by "be a bitch to everyone and thing"
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That's because i still have more points to say other than just repeating "i dont care" like what you do. And if you're not offended then you shouldn't really reacted in the first place and be a bitch about it because we all know what being a bitch is supposed to mean. So in that case then just be offended by everyone because you have no reason to unless everyone is triggering you.
I'm not saying to me but i'm talking about arguments but i don't even care if thots do it to me. You can go read again and tell me i'm lying when she said she gets hard because of the argument
@Virgo31 sorry 😔😔
@Aiko_E_Lara . . . I'm not actually getting hard. . . especially not by this thread. . . This was boring, no excitement here. Just passing time now. But this isn't my thread and it's annoying the original commenter so. . . Im out
I screen shot that just in case if you're going to denial by your own actions again. You'll only get bored if you have no more point or if you have no more argument. So you are now aware that you are annoying the commentator by not sticking to the main topic here which i'm still open about. I'm only continuing this to divert you to the main topic but still nobody force you too. So learn to eat your words properly next time.
They are objectively, literally, 100% undebatebly. NOT real females, women, or girls. I know lots of people out there are mentally ill, entitled, and MASSIVELY immature, but you cannot change what you are just because your feelings wish it were true and you're extremely insecure with yourself. Otherwise, I'd be 6'8" with a huge dick and muscles like Dwayne Johnson.
To demand and shame people into believing in what you believe in is the same kind of crap we wouldn't tolerate of anyone else. You wouldn't tolerate Christians trying to "cancel" atheists for not believing in God, or side X of American politics not voting for side Y. People don't even tolerate others living as the race they want to, like super-white, tanned and permed-haired Rachel Dolezal claiming to be "black on the inside." So why would or should anyone else tolerate a tiny percentage of the population demanding everyone else bow down and kiss their asses and give them everything they wish for, like bratty children? What are you going to do, claim we're "transphobic" because you're acting like an a**hole?
I go into this more in MyTakebecause it's too big to fit as an answer on here.
www.girlsaskguys.com/social-relationships/a63554-transwomen-this-is-how-society-will-accept-you-but-some-of-you-might
Its complicated. I know some trans people and for real, I couldn't even tell they were trans. Some are able to "look the part" better. I also think if somebody has the cash to do so, then yah, I guess why not? But I think the average joe doesn't realistically have the cash or time for gender change surgery. So doing so anyways well, I think it's going a bit far. And anyways, I don't know how many surgeons do that stuff, but I prefer the medical personnel available focus on real emergencies and not optional stuff. Better for society to just be more chill about feminine and masculine stereotypes, then to have so many surgeries, because anyways, all they really chance is the look and maybe sex parts. They don't prep the mind for the challenges of being the opposite sex. And yah, biology has an affect, but it also depends on the person in the end.
I will add too, that all the trans people I knew happened to be at least middle/upper middle class. I don't think that's a coincidence either.
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So if they also had a condition where they cpuldn't lactate too, thwt only leaves them with a pussy
we should not be trying to build definitions off of non normal cases
I am friends with a couple of trans women - and have been more than friends with two of them. It's interesting skimming through the comments - and not surprising to see the mean ones. I've always scratched my head with why someone cares when it comes to gender, sexual orientation, race, religion etc... variety is what makes the world a beautiful place. Why hatred for those who are different... ignorance I guess.
To your question, not sure how you are defining "real girls". The trans girls I know would readily say they were assigned male at birth and they still have male genitalia so they are not real girls in that sense... and they would say that.
But they look, act, feel, behave, etc like a real woman - and I will say whenever I've been with them (whether the setting is sexual or not), I've always felt like I was with a woman.
Funny and sad how people quickly judge with no experience on a topic... wish people would stop hating on people over gender, sexual orientation, race, religion etc... the world would instantly become better and healthier and more fun...
I've wondered the same thing and finally got the answer about a year ago. I can't help that what I'm about to say may be offensive, at the same time we are all free to speak our thoughts.
According to fairplayforwomen. com "More and more males are now choosing to ‘live in role as women’. But they can’t actually BE FEMALE. It’s a medical impossibility." Also, a man's head is 10% larger than that of a woman's. Even facial structure differs between the genders,
Now, shemales on the other hand are another story. They genuinely look like a woman with the exception of their private area. I once ran into one online and asked if she was born with male parts or had an operation and said born with. I like shemales because they virtually are women with the sole difference that they have a dick. Check out the link below to see a more in depth look at the differences in genders, I think you'll find it very interesting. Hope this helps
https://fairplayforwomen.com/biological-sex-differences/#:~:text=Differences%20Between%20Male%20and%20Female%20Heads&text=WOMEN%27S%20SKULLS%20ARE%20THICKER%20by,backwards%3B%20women%27s%20are%20more%20vertical.
I vote NO and I hate trans. I'd been mistaken for trans many times, being very tall as a woman, many horrible people call me a trans on several occasions. Not far ago me and my two olso very tall girlfriend's were at a bar, and son guys came up to our table and asked for a dance when I stood up the guy got intimidated and instead of swallow his male pride ( men think they have to be taller and stronger than us) he began to shout , I were a horrible trans, I felt horrible but asked him if he were a little girl with a dick as he were so short
I'm tall too, and I've been mistaken as well. But that's no reason to hate trans people.
@SamtheDnDgirl well in my Ind it's dam unnatural, and a little false goods declaration, well I like other girls too but still I'm mostly Gerri, but have sex with a few of my girlfriend's too. But most men don't find it repulsive, but rather love watching me kiss my girlfriend too , and my hubby love sex triangle with me and another girl, but we bouth would hate two men in it
@SamtheDnDgirl I was gonna say the same... not liking trans cause people call you it by mistake... it's not an insult. If I was called gay (which has happened), I'd just say "and if I was wtf you goin do bitch? You want me to go full rainbow rage bring it!"
@SamtheDnDgirl its a pretty good reason to hate trans people, they are making her life worse by existing. there is no more pure reason to hate
No. And im not transphobic by the way I just don't think a million surgeries, makeup, hair, clothes etc makes someone a woman. I totally will support what they wanna identify as but i believe you have to have the female parts us women were assigned at birth inside and out.
Okay i get down voted for saying the truth wow lol. And i have a trans male friend whom I've known for 6 YEARS and i am very respectful to him even so think before you misunderstand peoples views! And oh im a bi woman too. So to the girl who down voted me or maybe trans girl you can't just expect people to agree with everything and get so defensive.
@bunnypop03 your stupid obviously. I said TRANSMAN idiot. He transitioned from female to male and i always call him by he and him so gtfo here. I dont need your corrections either cause he's my friend not yours. Haha aww well i must have it good because he's been a true genuine friend to me just like my amazing boyfriend soo naa Ill keep doing what im doing bye.
you got 10x the upvotes as downvotes =)
@007kingifrit i know and i appreciate those people. People are quick to misunderstand. Lol just the nerve people have to assume im against something which isn't true i just dont believe the same thing as them. I NEVER said i hate trans people.. i just dont see them as us biological born women and men.
They're not, but if you want to be friends with people it's not something you want to say out loud.
Being offended, loud, aggressive, explosively wordy, or outnumbering the opposing opinion is the new "right" for people who aren't me.
I only deal in reality. It's probably why I'm bad at making friends. I'm not willing to cater to anyone. Eventually they always ask me my opinion on something they're looking for a bad answer for; it's likely due to insecurity.
Honestly you can call yourself whatever you want. Just don't expect me to join you.
You sound like me, but I’m a social butterfly lol
So am I when I'm not dealing with social snowflakes.
The problem is... EVERYONE is fucking offended.
Not blaming you. I have to watch my words before I said anything mostly in my university since 95% that attend are liberals. Lol
I heard dat.
I once said in a chat that I mostly girls played Animal Crossing since the guy had a cartoon picture and talked like a girl in her time of the month. Everyone attacked me because I was supposedly being “sexist.” The moderator was gay too. Lol
That's pushing it a little but I get the joke 🤣
He was complaining about everything going on his life and complained about some clubs. That’s why I though he was a girl and mostly the nails talk reaffirm that until I got attacked in the chat I learn he was gay. I found later on that the moderator was gay too.
Gays are cool just don't offended their gender or orientation. Otherwise that happens.
I though he was a girl which is why I assumed that. The thing is how I was supposed to know that he was gay when everyone in the chat don’t got a real picture and got girly usernames lol. I got bashed for no reasons.
Some are real hot. Did you ever see Daisy Taylor? She looks like 100% girl until you see her huge peen. And she is always hard. lol. Her videos are fun to watch. She is riding dudes with her rock hard peen waving all over the place. :)
Miss London really got me.
Trans women will treat men better than cis women mashallah
that's not a real woman tho
@007kingifrit She is real hot tho.
who?
@Sabretooth Daisy. The one who is in the photos I posted.
'' She is real hot tho.'' i assumed you mean another. i really like this one:
@Sabretooth That is London?
yeah. a youtuber.
@Sabretooth I watched a video of her and her mom but her hair looked darker.
might've been the lighting.
@supercutebutt sure sure but you finding her hot has nothing to do with if she is female or not... great description of daisy's videos tho if you narrated shemale porn I would watch it. feel free to pm me annotated porn clips that was priceless
Trigger Warning: No I personally don't. I respect their choice to identify how they want and acknowledge they have their own experiences and struggles in life, but to say these trans girls who grew up as guys have gone through the common experiences and struggles as girls is not just not correct.
agreed, those who are not born with a vagina cannot be female
They can't even feel the way us girls can.
They don't even think the way us girls do.
One might change his gender but they don't get their all nerves connected exactly like us girls do so they don't feel exactly the same.
And you can't change once mentality... they might become a trans woman but their thinking will most probably be the same as any other men.
Just because someone identify their gender as a female after making their body like a female and behaving like a female doesn't mean they are a female.
Same goes for any other trans male.
Period.
i agree they are not real girls... but what the fk girls all think the same? weird...
They exist but aren't women. No amount of pharmaceutical drugs, hormones, clothes, make up and surgery will ever change that.
The ones who demand to be called/recognized as females definitely are not.
For eons societies didn’t care if someone made themselves blend in 100% as a different gender. Even today if there’s someone out there who has 100% of everyone who sees them convinced they’re female it’s not an issue. It becomes an issue when they demand special rights, or tell us to ignore our eyes/ears and pretend they’re somewhere we don’t believe they are.
They want all the benefits of being something with zero accountability. I’ve seen videos of trans women attacking men & if the man defenda himself he’s charged with a hate crime & assaulting a woman. That’s total BS.
The trend of parents raising their kids as a different gender is child abuse because we know less than 1% of people are “trans” so there’s a 99% chance you’re making the wrong guess by changinv your kid’s gender.
An interesting thing about minority groups is that they don't need a majority vote for validation.
Say 1% of the population has some sort of fetish, like popping balloons helps them orgasm. The fact that 96% of the population doesn't understand how that is sexually stimulating doesn't mean voting "popping balloons is not a valid way to achieve sexual release" means that popping balloons is not a valid way to achieve sexual release.
It just means the majority have no understanding of the minority.
Depends on what parameters we use to consider what a real woman is. If we consider biology, they aren't. If we consider level of femininity showed through their social behavior, some trans could be more femenine than me, cis heterosexual girl. I have in mind Blair White, which I see as more stereotypically femenine than I am.
I sometimes wonder if there are structures in the brain that could cause this opposite gender identification. But there's yet too much research about the brain to make, and there's not enaugh research to prove this concept might be true or false.
There is enough evidence to suggest that is the case as trans people have similar brain structure and braid patterns as the gender they say they are versus the one they're assigned.
@SamtheDnDgirl I agree to some extent but I would say is yet not enaugh evidence, just some. The same way there are some experiments that show that similarity, there are also experiments that show it's not that easy to tell if a brain is from a man or a woman. Then, another problem for me is that the experiments made to prove the similarities of trans women's brains and cis women's don't show what exact part of the brain is related to gender self identification and how to recognize it. I believe that if the research in that field was enaugh, people that claim or are thought to have gender dysphoria wouldn't go to a psychologist and rather go to a neurologist to get a brain scan and see if they actually show a more reliable signal of dysphoria. That isn't happening yet, which causes some people with real dysphoria to not be diagnosed as fast as they should or people that don't actually have dysphoria to be misdiagnosed.
@SamtheDnDgirl I want to read papers about it.
@SamtheDnDgirl that's not how neuroscience works. we also have studies that show cab drivers have unique brain structures exclusive to cab drivers... does that mean being a cab driver isn't a social construct? no, it means the brain changes based on what we do
Self-evidently they are not real females.
They have XY chromosomes, which means that they are a biological male.
They may or may not have been surgically altered to have an poor imitation of a vagina.
At best, a transexual is a male who has been mutilated surgically and pumped full of oestrogen.
There are no ovaries, no uterus and no womb.
The male skeletal structure, muscle structure and brain remain.
They are severely delusional and tortured souls who are self-evidently seriously mentally ill, which is also the opinion of psychiatrist Dr Paul R. McHugh, a former head psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins Hospital.
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change
I know this is a highly sensitive subject. in my opinion... no. It might suck but what you are born, that is what you are. The beauty of the world nowadays is, you no longer have to live that way all your life. If you want to live as a woman, you can. If you want to be a guy, more power to you. You can even go through the surgery and get all the parts so that you look like whatever you want to be. But, you were not born that way, so at your core, you will never be that. However, what does that matter? In every other respect you are whichever sex you want to be. The rest is just a technicality.
biologically? No. Genetics determines that not your feelings. Now that isn't to say you need to punish them for being trans or even that you cannot treat them as a woman, but they are not biologically female.
Its a complicated issue as neurologically speaking they do have brain structures that are that of a woman, but being female is genetic and reproductive in nature and in those two ways a trans female is going to be lacking.
Its not the answer most transgender people will want to hear but it is the honest one.
What gender were you born? Female? Then you are a real girl.
Just because you buy a vagina and try to dress and look like a chick, you're still a dude and need serious mental help.
Well thats a little judgmental.. I mean, I don't necessarily agree with the notion that gender is malleable but I dont think they should be bullied
@Hunter7754 they are unraveling our society with their subjective postmodern neomarxist questions. we have a moral obligation to bully them
I personally have no problem with the LGBTQ community. Let them do their own thaaangg.
The first time I met a trans girl was about 10 years ago. I was one of the dancers doing pow wow, and she interviewed me for her blog (or I think it was a research paper). Even though we had cultural differences, she was very respectful, very friendly and did not disagree with my opinions. That’s what a real feminine woman is supposed to be.
In today’s world, most real girls are oozing masculine energy instead of feminine energy. Just go to the club or bar and look at the hottest girl who frequently visits the place. She’s difficult, non submissive and no man has dared to put a ring on that, that’s why she’s there.
People’s self image opinion is not a threat to whether you’ll be sleeping good tonight. Leave em alone lol.
If someone is mutilating their body in any way. Trans is not a necessary medical treatment. The real treatment needed is therapy. The problem is Gender Dysphoria and the trans community will deny this up and down. I see it no differently than if someone wanted to turn their body into that of a cat or a horse. When does it end?
Why can you just not be happy with the body you have?
If you are born a dude and like other dudes or feel more feminine coolio. You're a feminine dude and I ain't got no problems with that.
The big problem people have with Trans is the mutilation. Someone willing to do that to themselves is obviously not mentally stable.
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