Transwomen: This is how society will accept you, but some of you might not like it...

[MCheetah]

No transwomen are not real women; they are objectively, literally, 100% undebatebly NOT real females, women, or girls. I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but the truth gives zero f*cks to anyone's feelings. I know lots of people out there are mentally ill, entitled, and MASSIVELY immature, but you cannot change what you are just because your feelings wish it were true and you're extremely insecure with yourself. Otherwise, I'd be 6'8" with a huge dick and muscles like Dwayne Johnson.

I identify as "trans-alpha."

Now, people are willing to work with you, within reason. But whining, bitching, crying, moaning, complaining, shaming, and throwing temper tantrums towards grown adults as adults (supposedly) because people are playing make-believe with your delusions and fantasies, is not the way. It's only going to make people resent you more, and many already do (for religious reasons, or otherwise).

"Ugh! I hate people who are ho-ho-phobic!"

If you want to get treated like real biological (aka "CIS") women, then look, sound, walk, talk, and act like real biological women. If you pass and can be convincing enough for people's eyes and ears, then they'll treat you like real actual women. Yeah, I know. Some of you may be saying "I shouldn't have to please you in order to live my life how I want to." No one's saying you have to. However, if you feel that strongly about it, then other people sure as hell shouldn't have to lie and demean themselves by pretending this 6'3" man with a Adam's apple and shoulders like a linebacker in a wig and poorly fitting dress in front of them, is in the same category as their mothers, wives, and daughters, and sharing the same public restrooms as them. (You do realize by asking straight men to accept biological men, transwomen, as "female," you're also telling them they must now identify as "pansexual" and put males in the same category as the gender they're attracted to, right?)

Seriously? We're supposed to think this is a woman?

Long story short, you will literally never be female as a "transwoman." The science doesn't exist yet. Blame God, Muhammad, Buddha, Arceus, or The One Above All for that. However, if you can look and act like actual women, be respectful to others - even when they don't feel like lying to themselves to indulge in your pronoun demands - and generally act like a grown adult, most people will give you that same respect back.

I'm sorry, but "trans-racial" isn't a thing, Rachel.

The issue is usually a lot of transwomen come off as bratty, entitled a**holes. It's bad enough you already believe you are a woman in your mind, but that's your prerogative. But to demand and shame people into believing in what you believe in is the same kind of crap we wouldn't tolerate of anyone else. You wouldn't tolerate Christians trying to "cancel" atheists for not believing in God, or side X of American politics not voting for side Y. People don't even tolerate others living as the race they want to, like super-white, tanned and permed-haired Rachel Dolezal claiming to be "black on the inside." So why would or should anyone else tolerate a tiny percentage of the population demanding everyone else bow down and kiss their asses and give them everything they wish for, like bratty children? What are you going to do, claim we're "transphobic" because you're acting like an a**hole?

Probably one of the sh*ttiest people on the planet.

There is a right way to gain respect and tolerance from other people, and I just listed what it all is. Actually live and look the f*cking part of the identity to claim to be on the inside, and don't expect everyone else to kiss your ass because you believe you're something not everyone else believes. There are transwomen out there I actually respect and can call "she and her" no problem, like Blaire White. Too bad a lot of transwomen end up acting more like Jessica Yaniv or Tiffany "IT'S MA'AM!" Moore. If you want true trans acceptance, be a hell of a lot better than those a**holes.

An example of a bad transwoman and a good transwoman.

The next move is up to you: work towards actual trans-acceptance, or continue to whine and complain because people aren't kissing your ass by believing in something that is objectively not real. No, reality isn't "transphobic," but we can all get along, anyway. Let's at least try.

[Anonymous]

I support this community but i dont agree that they are real women because they dont have the parts biological women are born with. Gender and sex are two different things. Its like me saying im a donkey now if i put a tail on me which is a false allusion cause im a human being female woman born as one and that will never change no matter what i do to my body cause its just how i was meant to be created.

[ExplodingToad]

It depends on how you define a "real woman." For some people it is chromosomes, for others it is genitalia, for some it is gender identity. Words often can have multiple definitions or their meaning can change with time. Did you know that someone can be XX chromosome, yet be born with male genitalia? The science behind sex and gender aren't as clear cut as you might think.

I agree that if a transwoman expects everyone to use she/her pronouns automatically, then it's realistic for her to try to look as female as possible. People aren't mindreaders after all and typical physical traits are how we assume gender. However most trans people go to great lengths to try to pass. Passing is the goal of the vast majority. It's just not always an easy thing to do. It can take time and money. Some people have certain looks or the benefit of transitioning when they're younger which makes it much easier.

You say you'd respect Blaire White's pronouns. So you'd respect a transwoman who is right leaning politically and looks like a model? Basically you're saying for you to be respectful she has to be hot and have similar opinions as yourself. That's shitty. Dude, it's not that hard to be civil. You can personally believe they're still a man, but still be civil and use the pronouns they prefer. It doesn't take much effort. It doesn't mean you have to date them, be friends, or change your opinion on anything.

Also for the record, gender and sex is waaaay more complicated than you're making it out to be. It's a mixture of chromosomes, hormones, and neuroscience that we're just beginning to understand. The existence of intersex people is a clear demonstration of that. That's reality. There have been studies to indicate that transgender people's brains have structural similarities to their identified gender, differing from what is typical. We still have a lot to learn, but it's possible that you're being cruel to people who are just neurodivergent. Not cool and unnecessarily. Trans people have high suicide rates. Just be kind.

[MCheetah]

@ExplodingToad
You know, first thing I did was just block you, because I'd rather just dismiss people who come at me a certain way than deal with their negativity. And for anyone who feels the same way about me, I'd happily want them to block me too. But I decided to undo it to address the points you made, in case you think you're right about them, because you did bring up some other valid points as well. I usually never do.

[MCheetah]

@ExplodingToad
"However most trans people go to great lengths to try to pass. Passing is the goal of the vast majority."
I agree to disagree. Most of them I've met in person just want the world to conform to their standards, without putting in the work, because they can just shame them and shout "transphobia" if they don't. As if anyone gives a f*ck anymore.

"So you'd respect a transwoman who is right leaning politically and looks like a model? Basically you're saying for you to be respectful she has to be hot and have similar opinions as yourself. That's shitty."

This is the bullsh*t that made me block you. You created a strawman, then got all self-righteous and indignant from it. Point out to me where I ever said that. For the record, I do NOT consider Blaire White physically attractive in any way; she still has physically masculine traits, after all. Even if she was a real woman, she's still not my type. The thing you completely ignored is, I'd call her a "her" because she passes. I don't have to lie to my own f*cking eyes, ears, and brain in order to think of that person as a woman. Unlike Caitlin Jenner and Tiffany Moore, who are VERY CLEARLY men. No, I'm not being "rude or uncivil" by not demeaning myself and lying to my own eyes and ears by not calling factually objective men "women," nor am I being mean by not putting cocks in the same category as the people I'm sexually attracted to. The entire world doesn't revolve around someone's gender delusions, which is the main point of my post to begin with. People are usually ALWAYS going to put themselves before others, and not demean their own sense of reality for some insecure man in a wig and dress. That's the whole point you missed, or ignored, here.

[MCheetah]

@ExplodingToad
So yes. It is asking a lot for men to voluntarily become "pansexual" and believe in magic just to placate 0.5% of the population. Especially when many of these people are entitled a**holes and demand it from others. Which again, is the gist of my point. "Kindness" is subjective.

"Also for the record, gender and sex is waaaay more complicated than you're making it out to be."

No, not really. I am not some redneck from Alabama who doesn't know the facts. I also never got sex and gender mixed up, either. I even said people can live as the gender they want to, made up or not, but no one OWES you the right to believe in whatever bullsh*t of the day some mentally ill person is believing in. All of this is irrelevant to what I am saying, which is, tolerance and acceptance is a two-way street and transwomen are going to actually have to put in the work if they want people to believe in things that are quite frankly, fictional. I said that at the end. People are willing to do a lot for each other, but not through force, intimidating, peer pressure, bullying, or scare tactics. Society in general is allowing a lot of mental illness everywhere, as another guy pointed out. Not just in transgenderism, but everything nowadays, even stuff not from the far-left. And there has to be a line drawn somewhere between functional reality and letting the lunatics run the asylum. Yeah, I probably could've made this post "nicer," but it was mostly just ranting off my opinions, anyway. No one has to agree with them. Which is what I love about free speech. I'd like to keep that a thing, instead of being threatened to go to prison if you don't pretend to call some 6'6" linebacker a "she or her" because they want to "feel pretty" today.

[MCheetah]

@ExplodingToad
I can be polite to people without having to demean myself in the process. Which is why, in reality, I would just always call a transwoman by their name, or use "they/them" rather than pretend this very obvious man is a woman. That's call a "compromise." It's a part of tolerance. Some people aren't good enough with tolerance, though. They want forced "acceptance," with the government punishing you if you don't comply. That's where transwomen and anyone else can kindly piss off at.

[John_Galt]

sadly... “trans rights” have been hijacked by a certain group of people that want to use them as a tool to just hammer people into submission. Then force them to surrender the battle of science and language! It’s the same people that hijacked “civil rights” and “feminism”. I mean it’s not complicated, to see how these movements started as real grass roots movements but were then stolen and used as a political tool. It no coincidence that post-modern, neo-Marxist’s now control all these movements and use them to further their ideological beliefs. Sadly trans people will be worse off... not better because if it.

[Not_Average]

Seems like you’re attempting to be a provocateur just to be a provocateur. I agree your facts 100%. I’ve had many debates on the transgender topic. I think the fact that society enables delusion is wrong. Your articulation or execution of these facts would make a transgender want to off themselves though.


My step cousin is trans, and it’s really awkward tbh. I completely disagree with the choice made, and don't think mental illness should be enabled. It is a mental illness though. I’d never try to rattle someone that hard with mental illness because I don’t ever want put down another human being already experiencing such hardship.


I personally believe that if you want to influence someone into your way of thinking, then you need to get them on your side and create a willingness to listen before anything. You’re writing style creates a shock factor, and I get it because I used to write that way too. It’s just not effective in my opinion.

[MCheetah]

Nope. I'm not Milo Yiannopoulos, so I don't do " provocateur" stunts. If I was being hateful, I could definitely go a lot "meaner" than this.

This is just blunt honesty from me, and people can do what they want with it; listen to it, ignore it; whatever.

I'm sick of living in a world where the mainstream media tries to force you into believing objective lies and delusions. I believe anyone can live as whatever they want, but on the same end, no one has to "accept" you as such. Everything I wrote I 100% believe.

[Not_Average]

I’m sure you can be a lot meaner. Anyone really could. I can see you watch Ben Shiparo as well lol. Ben put it really well when it comes to Milo. That man is so godamn annoying to me. I didn’t get that extreme of a vibe from you.

Personally, I’ve learned that there are more effective ways to be direct, without putting any particular group down or overusing profanity. I’m a former Marine and this is how I communicated for years. Volunteered as a member of law enforcement, and I learned that other people don’t respond too well to my aggressive nature. I toned it down, stopped coming across as hostile, but rather tried to implement a peaceful and constructive nature.

I feel like anyone who disagrees with you, will now want to fight you instead of actually listening. You’re putting them in defense mode from the start.

Also, if I do get aggressive, I want it to have a shock factor. If someone goes from calm and collected, to aggressive in a quick manner- it causes them to really pay attention and it stops them in their tracks. If someone is just like that all the time, there’s no shock factor.

I have a lot of personal philosophy when it comes to this, and what works for me doesn’t work for everyone. Just my thoughts. There’s benefits to how you present things as well. The emotion does seem genuine.

[MCheetah]

"Personally, I’ve learned that there are more effective ways to be direct, without putting any particular group down or overusing profanity. "

True, but this was more of a "just my opinion" thing than actually trying to play cultural diplomat here. It actually started as an answer to another question, "Are trans girls real girls?" So many people want to give a hard "yes" or "no" response to it without explaining. And well... I talk/write too much.

Also, I was a bouncer, and worked in executive protection (bodyguarding) and security officer work for several years. So I know what you mean by deescalation, and I agree with you.

[Anonymous]

I think that society is to tolerant and pleasing all mentally ill people too much lately and that is the only think you hear on TV as it is very different and good for ratings...

We had one very loud case in my uni, that person was before surgery, had all man parts on 0 women parts, but already demanded to use womens changing rooms and toilets... Worst think this think does not shower very often, twice a month, if you lucky, bold man in 50s.
And main think this person wanted to be lesbian in the end anyway, so likes women anyway so letting this person to womens changing rooms?

And one interesting observation it is still male brains in there...

In my opinion, if they want their man bits replacement to womens go for it just don't make a show out of it and not every man will want to have anything to do with you and this person have to tell his situation before anything even happen...

[DizzyDesii]

Lmao i thought this would be encouraging to em but now they’re definitely going to hide the fact that they originally had a dick between their legs 💀 I suggest everybody just remain what they were born as and then there will be less judgments to make

[MCheetah]

Oh, it's encouraging alright. Just also brutally honest encouragement.

[DizzyDesii]

I’d say its more eye opening if anything. They gotta be realistic about how the majority views them

[Petra150]

Only thing to be said about trans is they are pathetic and have a sick mind. And as most trans seems to be tall men who obviously can't be Abel to attrac other women, it just explain a why

[Anonymous]

it's abuse for a medical professional to recommend surgery and hormone therapy for gender dysphoria

so trans people, put your hate where it belongs, not on us who tell you the truth that you have become a mutilated frankenstein monster of modern medicine gone wrong, but on the asshole teachers, doctors, media people, celebs, and other LIARS who took advantage of your mental illness to push a political agenda

[pigoat]

@ElizaPam

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