Is it bad to like traditional gender roles?

[Anonymous]

I've had trouble deciding what career I want to pursue when I finish school. I've thought about it and I really just want to get married because I've always dreamed of starting a family. I'm completing a certificate that will help me work in schools and I'm happy to work there but when i get married, I want to stay at home, raise children, take care of the house and care for my husband. I know it sounds selfish of me to say that and I feel lazy and unkind when I think about it. I've told my friends and they thought it was horrible of me to ask my future husband to make all the money. I just feel awful and I dont think any guys that I date will want me if I tell them. I know I'm young but I'm going to be finished school soon and I'm kind of afraid of the future. Should I just forget about being a tradtional wife and work towards a good career?
Thank you for reading, I really appreciate it.
I mean no disrespect to anyone and I'm sorry if I offended someone while writing this.💗

[Anonymous]

I don’t think it’s bad necessarily. It does put you in a more vulnerable position where you’re completely dependent upon someone else. I’ve heard of some abusive situations starting this way because the woman is dependent.

It also can cause resentment for the working spouse. These days, you really need two incomes to live comfortably unless the one working spouse makes a ton of money or if you live in a cheap area.

As a child of a non-working mom and a working dad, I’ll give my perspective.

My mom has been in that role and stopped working in her 20s. It was nice when my sister and I were kids, but when we went to college, she continued not working. She was stuck in the mindset that she couldn’t work, maybe because of anxiety, but also stubbornness. A lot of resentment built because my dad and I have to support the household and she doesn’t contribute even when we have financial issues. Whenever he’s been laid off, even when we were kids, it was a huge stress because my parents had zero income without him working. They’re in over $200,000 of debt and my mom refuses to work.

It will only work if the man makes enough money for the family. In these days, a family really needs two incomes to sustain the household. My dad makes $120,000/yr, but because he was laid off a few times, they went deep into debt because my mom refused to help and they had to take out loans.

I resent my mom because I’ve had to loan them money and help with the mortgage. Seeing her made me want to work hard, and I don’t want to be a stay at home mom.

My dad is somewhat verbally and emotionally abusive to her because he’s exhausted, burnt out, resentful, and won’t be able to retire comfortably.

And she stays home all day while everyone else in the family works and contributes.

Would you be willing to get a job and help out if he was laid off? Imagine he’s out and your family has no health insurance, and you have bills to pay. My point is, please don’t get into the mindset that you will never work.

My mom is that way. We’ve all begged her to get a job to help my dad out. We even made her a resume and applied to jobs for her and got her interviews but she sabotaged the interviews. I once asked, “if someone offered you 1million dollars to work an hour a week, would you?” and she said “no! I need to stay home and take care of the house.” The house is still a mess. My dad neglects his health and is working himself to death when he should be retired at this age. And that wouldn’t have happened if my mom just got a job.

[Asker]

Thank you for telling me your past experiences, it's helped me understand more about the consequences and the issues of it. I'm sorry about your family and I wish you the best. The main reason why I wanted to be a stay at home mother is because i want to raise my children and give my time to them. I feel like if I work, they'll have to be taken care of or raised by child care takers/babysitters and they may feel alone in their teenager years. When my children are grown, I would get a job to support my husband and now im even more sure of it after I've read that. If our family needed the money, I would as well. I appreciate you telling me this so I am aware. Thank you so much💓

[thegirlfromthething]

It’s not a bad thing as long as you can stay practical while following these roles and you do it because it works for you as an individual woman. Don’t do it because you feel pressured to be like other women or believe all women should act a certain way based on their gender. And if this is your goal, practicality is something you absolutely have to think about. Don’t marry someone who doesn’t have a stable income that’s enough to support the family, and be ready to support the family if you have to. It’s okay to choose to depend on him but give yourself the option of independence to be safe.

[Asker]

Thank you thats really helpful💗, I have a lot to think about now.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Statistically people are happier with traditional gender roles so its not a bad thing (its why they are traditional to begin with). In fact the more prosperous and egalitarian the nation, the more men and women diverge in responsibilities i. e. they become more traditional not less.

Now I would say their is nothing wrong with being traditional, in fact its ideal, however you need to actually be traditional yourself i. e. if he is going to be in charge that by nature necessitates you obeying your husband (and no that doesn't mean he can treat you however he wants. Thank of it as a manager, they have the responsibility to make sure everything goes according to plan and as such they have the authority to tell you what to do to make sure that happens. Same thing with traditional relationships, he has to have authority over you because your safety and well being are his responsibility (and he is sacrificing his life through work and his resources to do it which should always be appreciated and understood as the sacrifice it is). Things like that will inevitablly be required of you (its not fair that he gets all the responsibility o traditionalism and you all the privilege after all.). So long as you do that their is nothing wrong with being traditional.

[Asker]

Im happy to become tradtional myself but im unsure if I'll find a man who prefers tradtional relationships as its not very common where I live. I feel as though it's rude to ask that of them and I would hate for him to be unhappy in the relationship. Thank you for your opinion though, it helped me understand it better.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well their are still traditional men out their and you want to be upfront about things (no one wants to feel like they got suckered into a situation). I would say be upfront and honest, and again, if you expect him to be traditional then be traditional yourself (despite what is popularly claimed this was a fair exchage, its just that he provided resources and protection and she provided her ability to nurture as well as maintaining what he provides i. e. cooking and cleaning).

I don't think you will find it that difficult, though if he doesn't make a lot of money or if you live in an area that is more expensive that would make things much more difficult (I wouldn't mind a traditional relationship myself but I don't make enough money to do that unfortunately so that is something to consider).

[Asker]

Thank you, I'll remember that advice when I need it and I'm sorry you couldn't have a traditonal relationship but I hope your doing well and enjoy life💗

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well thank you, same to you!

[HartleyB]

@hellionthesagereborn while all of the stuff you said is just made up and not supported by data whatsoever I think for the asker it is fine to be traditional single income family only if your partner knows that's what you want and is willing to participate but the only thing stopping you will be finances.. single income households is becoming very very difficult to meet basic living standards for anyone so that will be your biggest challenge it has nothing to do with people saying you shouldn't it is just becoming unfeasible in the economic climate currently to do so

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB No, actualy it is backed by data hence why I said it was what statistical data says. Just because you believe something doesn't make it true, in fact most of what people believe is provably and catagorically false.
link.springer.com/.../s11199-011-0017-2
journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167218781000
www.asanet.org/.../Feb13ASRFeature.pdf
www.theguardian.com/.../womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap

So the real question is why you would claim its false without even doing basic research?

as for single income, yeah, I pointed that out. Its a lot harder now because our current system has increased tax rates and thus supressed economic opportunity essentially forcing both men and women to work. However its not impossible, not by a long shot but that also depends upon where you live (in major cities it will be difficult, but in less urban areas it will be easier).

[HartleyB]

@hellionthesagereborn literally none of those links support your argument.. just doing a 2 second Google search and cherry picking some things that aound good to you isn't scientific whatsoever.. those articles do not demonstrate your claim they are completely different studies

Oh right it's taxes 🤣 yup those dam taxes is what is holding us all down considering they are lower now than the periods you are referring to

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB Seriously? Your telling me that a study that states how traditional behavior which even the biased scientists reffered to as "benevolent sexism" showed that this behavior was more desirable and made men and women happier doesn't in fact provide evidence for the argument that states that traditionalism is more desirable to people? The scientific paper stating that men doing traditional work have a more robust sexlife with their wives then men who are more egalitarian with their work, doesn't support the argument that traditionalism is perefered over non traditionalism?

What would be required to support that argument then if scientific papers that state it isn't enough?

As for taxes, no they are not lower now then they use to be. We paid next to nothing in the early 1900s, then with the advent of social security and the new deal from FDR we saw an increase in taxe rates. They have stabalized and even dropped from their highest point to some degree but they are not nearly at the levels they use to be.


Also cost of living has increased substantially thanks again to government interference as we have seen a substantial jump in the cost of medical/insurance, housing, and education that has been inflating for decades. This is also something that has to be considered (I only mentioned taxes because it was a quick and easy answer (and accurate as the graph pointed out), but their were multiple other factors as well.

So really the question becomes why do you hate traditionalism so much that you would try to do anything you could to dissuade some one from it even going so far as to ignore scientific papers showing its benefits? I'm not saying any one has to do anything but you seem hell bent on convincing people that their is something wrong with them for wanting a traditional life, why?

[HartleyB]

@hellionthesagereborn I can't be bothered with your comment tbh I have seen your arguments repeated everywhere and it gets very boring and is a big waste of my time :)

Anyway I hate traditionalism so much it really hurts me and my life you got me 🤣

It is clear that you just Googled that study to try to look like you do your research.. it literally says in the abstract right there "For men, BS was directly associated with life satisfaction. For women, the palliative effect of BS was indirect and occurred because BS-ideology positioning women as deserving of men’s adoration and protection was linked to general perceptions of gender relations as fair and equitable, which in turn predicted greater levels of life satisfaction." Yeh.. people who are subordinated can report that they are happier than people with full autonomy it doesn't mean it should be the case.. Chinese love there Government more than the US citizens love your Government does that mean Chinese political system should be globally adopted? They are subjectively happier right?

1900? You had to go that far back to find a lower tax rate to prove your point 🤣 FDR led the United States into one of the most successful economic recoveries in the history with his policies so what does that prove?

So why are countries that are more egalitarian and higher taxes consistently the most happy populations? sustainabledevelopment.un.org/index.php let me guess it will be because it is a liberal marxists feminist regime trying to take over and they are lying to us through Universities and so on blah blah blah

Anyway I can't believe I just wasted more time responding to someone who just makes things up and cherry picks data that they think supports them when it isn't even close to suggesting what you are suggesting 😑 go to school your mom is probably waiting still

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB Well, you can't argue against my point, my point was backed by multiple scientific studies so you would have to be arguing against that not me.

Yes, also true, thats why you got aggressive and immediatley denied the veracity of multiple scientific studies with no evidence or argument being given, then tried to belittle me for good measure. That isn't an argument provided by some one who is being objective, its an argument given by some one with vested interest in the outcome of that discussion, one that cannot beat the evidence provided.

As for the 90s comment, no, I was pointing out that during the period of time when we had traditional relationships as default we had significantly lower taxes, I then provided the chart that showed as much. I then further clarified by pointing out the exceptional increase in other costs of living issues that would require a two income household which again, was not the case for most of history. I fail to see why their is an issue with that statement? Also no, FDR did not have the best economic recovery, in fact many economists think his policies drug out the problem longer then it would have if he just left it alone.
fee.org/.../
www.ff.org/.../
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/2865
mises.org/library/how-fdr-made-depression-worse
So that is an arguable statement (and I'm inclined to side with those who say he made it worse as per the data not just from that time period but also in every other attempt to replicate those same responses ended up with negative results).

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB As for your argument, egalitarian doesn't mean they live egalitarian. Sweden has the most egalitarian society yet we see a complete divergence of behaviors i. e. women prefer being home with children, they tend towards the traditional female roles and men go towards the traditionally male roles. I believe I had already mentioned that. As for the high tax, well one, your asking people who have no other experience if said experienec makes them happy. They don't know what its like to not be paying those kinds of taxes so its a rather meaingless argument because their is no control group in that. Second, scandinavian nations are listed as having the highest rates of SELF REPORTED happiness, however statistically they have the highest consumption of antidepressents of any western nation, some of the highest suicide rates in the world and rampant drug issues, specifically in the form of heroin. So we can pretty much dismiss self reported happiness rates since their actions do not match those words.

[HartleyB]

@hellionthesagereborn omg you are such an intellectual! How did you become so smart and use the research from academics that don't even agree with your points to argue the same points from Fox News and YouTube commenter daddies?

Look dude I don't care about your "traditionalist" lifestyle you can be what ever you want to be and by the look of it, it isn't sounding like it is working out for you considering you are 36 and single yet think your idea of marriage works great..

Anyway I can't be bothered linking studies to you I honestly can't when there are so many clones of you online it is exhausting

There is a reason why most academics are these so called "leftists" because the evidence supports these issues so that is where we end up at.. you are the one with a vested interest because you want to convince some women to play into your little traditionalist role play and that is fine but all I wanted to say was your points are made up and read the study fully and you might come to realize that it has nothing to do with your traditionalist ideology

As for the Scandinavian and Sweden stuff I'm not going to bother.. these assertions have been made repeatedly and obviously all the debunking in the world isn't going to convince someone with an agenda so I honestly cannot be bothered. Claim your win there you go traditionalists win let's go back to the 1900's I guess

But anyway I urge you to actually read and not just listen to YouTube videos and recite what they say and when you need evidence you do a quick Google search and copy and paste it.. that's not how academic work is supposed to be used and it makes people like you feel smart which is horrifying

I don't even know why I replied to you and guys like you I should know by now that you all think you are scholarly debate lords with the academic consensus on your side until it isn't and then it is just a liberal hoax

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB I don't know why your claiming that the research doesn't claim what it explicitly claims. I don't watch fox news nor "YouTube commenter daddies"(I don't even know what that is suppose to mean to be perfectly blunt), but I also don't know why that would even matter as again, the scientific data, which I provided, is quite clear.

You are angry, very angry, and I don't know why. No one is saying you can't live your life as you see fit, in fact I think its morally objectionable to force some one to do something against their will, but that doesn't mean that what I have stated is any less accurate (again it is, you could even read the papers if you really wanted to know the truth. I mean some of them are really bias against the subject matter (I mean one of them was headed benevolent sexism) so you could at the very least read through it and try to cut away some context to try and argue your point but you haven't even done that. That shows hatred but also fear, because your not even willing to confront the idea that you could be wrong. That shows that you have a deeply held ideological belief that is so ingrained in you that to deny it would be to deny a part of yourself. This is why your desperately trying to attack me instead of using evidence for your arguments (again, I provided evidence for mine, scientific papers to be precise), its because your afraid that what I have stated might actually be true (which in turn would probably explain a lot of your own misery and anger).

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB This also explains your confirmation bias i. e. everything that says what you want is right and everything that says what you don't is wrong. Again, I provided multiple scientific papers, I presented an article showing that women were happier in the fifties then they are now (I could present you another that shows that women are the biggest consumers of antidepressants now too if you want), yet your only rebuttal is to insult me, belittle me, claim that the papers in question didn't say what they did (and provided absolutely no evidence to back that claim which would be easy enough if what you said was true and you read the papers) etc. etc. I'm sorry but your the one who is wrong. The fact that you would try to crush every one elses options to live their life as they see fit shows that. Your rationalizing your lifestyle but its clearly not making you happy otherwise you wouldn't be so angry and aggressive. Maybe you should give it a try and see for yourself (I mean the only thing you have to lose is finding out you were wrong and being happy, otherwise you would just prove that you were right and would then know that this is not a path for you).

[HartleyB]

@hellionthesagereborn sorry dude I'm busy I don't have time to waste speaking to you.. enjoy your traditionalist lifestyle and pretending that data supports you and I hope that you can find some more to cherry pick to convince a girl to get with you who is over 18 :)

You are truly an intellectual and all of the data that we process at the Universities that I have attended even internationally is just fake and liberal hoax and you are correct with your 2 second Google search and your quick read of abstracts that you clearly don't even understand but yeh cool I don't care I work on this data everyday while you work at a checkout saying cash or card so you can keep telling me all of your amazing ideas and I really care what you think

I'm not mad I just hate wasting time on people like you because you are clearly insecure about personal failures so you blame paying taxes or some obscure ideology that is in the spotlight for the month and feel like you are justifying why you have failed to achieve anything at 36 by doing that and that's fine I don't care honestly all I was saying was that your original comment was just assertions and it is not supported by the current consensus, yes there are changes in happiness all the time but you just attributing it to what you want to means nothing.. and benevolent sexism having slightly statistically higher self reported happiness under specific conditions doesn't prove that we should just all revert to your traditionalist lifestyle ok? Ok now stop replying to me I don't read your shit because it is a waste of my time considering we have all of the data that we work with everyday and then some insecure 36 year old anonymous guy on the internet trying to tell me his story like I care

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB What? I don't understand your insult, I'm not trying to get anyone to be with me, most definitley not an 18 year old. Why would you make that claim? Unless it was just a way to try and insult me in order to distract from the actual discussion? Also agian, my data wasn't cherry picked it was three separate studies and the longitudanal study showing that women were happier in the 50s then they are now and that women have actually been getting less happy the further away from traditionalism we have gotten. Those are not cherry picked thats multiple studies all saying the exact same thing. You also haven't produced any study or any data what so ever, you just keep making claims that your right and I am wrong and then making excuses for why you don't have any data to back it i. e. your to busy (not too busy to not start a fight online about this or to respond, just to busy to provide a good argument for your position)).

What ever makes you happy though.

[HartleyB]

@hellionthesagereborn women are also less happy the further away from witch trials and riding horse and carriages we get as well it doesn't mean they are related whatsoever.. do you understand that? No? Ok then there is no point so stop wasting my time and sending me notifications please

And yes you are an intellectual and I have no data to support my marxist liberal leftist agenda not because I can't be bothered wasting my time on someone who is clearly an online intellectual with facts and logic. You happy now? Traditional gender roles will save the world yay! We can all be happy again that was the problem all along thank you for discovering that on your 2 second Google search because no other scholars could before you did :) anyway as I said go do your traditionalist marriage I don't care it means nothing to me and it won't mean anything to you either if you never even get married so I don't give a shit my God 😆

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB Well that was a false analogy. We actually do know their is a link because again, the less of it they have the less happy they are, the more traditional things are the more happy they are ergo we can state that they are conclusively linked. Also why are you complaining if your the one who initiated this conversation (aggresively and rudely I might add)?

Again, what does me being an "intellectual" or you being a "communist marxist liberal leftist", something I haven't stated nor suggested, have to do with whether or not traditionalism is prefered by men and women over non traditionalism? These topics are unrelated.

I am neither happy nor unhappy, not sure what that has to do with anything either. Traditional relationships will not save the world, not sure why you would imply that I suggested that. What I stated is that it would make people happier but that the decision is ultimately up to them to make as its their life (which I thought was a pretty fair assesment as data backs my claim but I'm not demanding others live their life any way other then how they want to live them).

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB As for my google search, it wasn't "two seconds" as I have read those articles in the past and thus knew where to look for them again but that still took time and even if it didn't how does that pertain to anything? I mean if the google search showed me 2+2=4 in a two second search, wouldn't it still be true? Thats not a very good argument. Also no one has stated no one has done this research before me, I mean the fact that I pointed to multiple studies done by multiple people shows that other people have done the research and came to this conclusion which I then relayed to the asker. Also why would that be relevant?

You clearly care because your getting very angry and defensive about it. I stated my piece to give some one advice and to let them know that their is nothing wrong for them wanting to live a more traditional lifestyle, your the one who then tried to argue that this is some how wrong and bad and we should all feel ashamed for wanting that.

Clearly this is a topic that hits really close to home for you or you wouldn't be responding the way you are. I am not sure how I can help you with this since a faceless person on the internet can never make any real headway in these types of debates (you have to develop a relatonship with a person before you can overcome their confirmation bias, thats why online debates bear no fruit, they are disconnected from the individual they are arguing with and thus are are able to dehumanize them which allows them to dismiss their statements more readily).

[HartleyB]

@hellionthesagereborn you have waaaaay to much free time 🤣 you wasted your time typing that because I am not reading it.. you are using data from a source that doesn't even demonstrate your point so I don't know what to say besides just good luck with your imaginary traditionalist marriage and maybe go to a University if you really want to learn how to comprehend studies 🤣

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB Obviously, why else would I be on this site? If I was being productive I wouldn't be here. As for my sources, yeah, they do, they are published papers, they state their methodology (one of them you have to log in to see it but the others do not require this) and their abstracts and even site other papers that had similar findings. I'm begining to think you didn't read any of these papers.

As for my education level, well, one that has not baring on the situation because the truth doesn't adhere to titles, 2+2=4 regardless of whom states it. Also I was reading at a college/university level when I was eight, have studied more topics then any sane human aught to, and studies have shown that university students come out more ignorant then when they went in (at least in the US. Judging from your use of the term university instead of college I'm guessing your from Europe which more then likely suffers the same problems (highly partisan teaching i. e. they are extremely far left and anti traditionalism or conservatism)). Perhaps instead of simply sitting and remembering what others have told you, you should try to do some basic research and start asking questions in order to strengthen your critical thinking skills (Not a jab, its just so called educational facilities do not teach this to you, your taught to regurgitate what they tell you not learn how to think for yourself).

[hellionthesagereborn]

@HartleyB As for the published papers, its fairly simple and straightforward, the abstract is the summary of the paper and the findings, the methodology is how they did it and then the paper itself gets into the details of it. In most cases if you have the abstract and the methodology you can determine the worth of the paper. Its better to read the whole thing of course but with so many papers out their and at least for me so many subjects to study its hard to read every single one of them so sometimes you require a heuristic in order to more practically acquire the information (like you use your ideology). However you need to also be aware that its just a heuristic and should be questioned if information comes out that shows its wrong (you should also attempt to do that as well, you will be a much more fullfilled, informed, and self actualized person.).

Anyway, despite you hating me for not thinking exactly like you, I do not hate you nor have any illwill towards you. So what ever makes you happy do that, but I think the asker has suffered enough notifications from this conversation and its clear you will not accept the science on this and I don't know how to make you accept the truth so this is going nowhere. So good luck with your life.

[HartleyB]

@hellionthesagereborn omg dude I don't care fuck off you are not smart you are just a try hard on the internet and a time waster. Might not be a waste of your time because you are no use in real life but other people have things to do other than this good bye I have to block you because you are just trying to validate yourself to me but I don't even care about you enough to talk to you on the internet

I'm not even mad I just don't care about your opinion when we deal with this data every day I don't care about your opinion that you desperately want to be fact 🤣 I'm not wasting any more time on you go onto your internet forums or something where other people there have no lives like you so they will circle jerk with you

[sacajawea]

You have absolutely nothing to be sorry about. Children can be challenging at times, but to me it's been a wonderful blessing. Don't allow others to make you feel bad about what you want. A real friend, will support you. Not tell you your selfish. You deserve better. Best wishes.

[Asker]

Thank you, i really appreciate it 💓

[Virgo31]

Well I have some concerns. One, a lot of people don’t have make enough money to support two people on their own more or less having children to take care of. And two, being completely dependent on someone isn’t always the best route to go. You still might have to find a way to make money on your own in case of things like divorce or your husband loses his job. That way, you can still support yourself.

[Asker]

Thats really helpful, thank you for your advice💓

[Cherokeehp]

No there’s nothing wrong with it. The thing is that in this economy most average people don’t make enough money to be able to afford to support an unemployed spouse and children. If you manage to find a guy who makes enough money to allow you to be a stay at home mom and he’s ok with it then I see no issues.

[Asker]

Thats fair enough, thank you for your opinion 💓

[Nmalinova]

No it's a good thought and I totally agree! HOWEVER, please do make sure that you could find work and be independant if you wanted to be! You never know who you may meet and in what situation you might find youself... you don't want to be stuck eith an abusive husband and cannot leave him because you don't have an option B... Always have an option B and C and D! 👍😊

[Asker]

Thank you, that's really good advice 💞

[eyelidsontheceiling]

No of course it's not bad! What's bad is if you're doing things that don't make you happy, if others force it on you. A woman staying at home is just as valid as a woman working! The thing about activism and feminism is that we want people to make their own choices. If you want to be a traditional wife, 100% go for it girl!

[Asker]

I'm afraid it's going to be really hard to find someone who has the same views as me but I will try too. Thank you , I appreciate it 💓

[eyelidsontheceiling]

It's always going to be hard finding the right one for you. But you'll eventually find them. Remember to avoid manipulative and abusive people, as they may take advantage. Always look for red flags, but also don't rush. You're barely even out of school, and this is a good time to just take time to explore what you like in relationships in the next few years. Best of luck hun ❤

[Asker]

Thank you so much 💕 best of luck to you as well

[Anonymous]

There's nothing wrong with it at all. Many guys want that kind of woman but find it hard to actually find one.

It's not lazy or unproductive if you're focused on raising your children well, because as others have said you're raising the next generation. In fact I'd even say that many of the problems young people have today is because of a lack of that.

[Asker]

Thats surprising because most guys I know don't like the thought it. Thank you for your opinion!

[Opinion Owner]

You’re 16 though right? I answered your other question. At 16 I would probably have said the exact same thing as those guys to be fair, because that’s what we’re taught by our feminist culture. Some of those guys will snap out of that mindset later, as I did, when they grow up and realise that maybe they want kids. The kinds of men who never snap out of it, they’re weak guys anyway.

[Asker]

Yeah I am, I've just been worried about those topics because I seem to have very different future goals than other girls my age. I hope I meet some men who have snapped out of it by the time I leave school as I just want a simple married life. (It sounds boring I know). Thanks for you for answering my question 💓

[Beautyforeverybody]

No it is not. No matter what feminists and simps say, most people are biologically attracted to their gender role.

[HartleyB]

Biologically attracted to there gender role 🤣 wow you must have done so much research up in your own ass to find that

[Beautyforeverybody]

Or perhaps im more busy with researching rather than fishing for attention online? Just a thought.

[HartleyB]

@Beautyforeverybody researching? 🤣 well maybe you should just stick to fishing for attention online because the researching isn't going very well it seems lmao

[Beautyforeverybody]

Yeah perhaps you should work on your brain as much as you worked on your bikini body and actually look into actual studies.

www.frontiersin.org/.../full
You are clearly ignorant.

[TonyMetal___86]

Actually i won't marry a girl who ain't like you, so never lose hope, your a dream girl! 😊
I hope that you find a man who deserves you and who is willing to work hard to so you be able to become a sweet devoted housewife 🙂

[Asker]

Thank you so much💓

[TonyMetal___86]

Your welcome sweet girl 😊

[Quackthulu]

No, it's only bad if you expect everyone to like them.

[Asker]

Okay im glad thank you, sorry if im bothering you with another question but do you think people will see me as someone not contributing to society or to my family?

[Quackthulu]

If you are raising the next generation to be better than the last you are contributing. More so than most.

[Asker]

I understand, thank you for your input 💗

[just_a_potato]

No one will scrutinize you for living in traditional gender roles as long as you don't push them on anyone else

[Anonymous]

No, it's not bad at all. It's actually good for you, your husband/partner and your children. The only people it's bad for are the feminists because you are not toing their party line, which just makes them seethe with anger.

[Opinion Owner]

*toeing

[Asker]

Oh okay, I just know a lot of people that believe it's not good and I've read its for lazy, weak minded individuals. Its nice to hear that someone thinks its good. Thank you.

[Opinion Owner]

Feminists want us to believe traditional women are lazy and weak minded. In the traditional families I know the women are very smart and capable and work very hard. The difference is just that they are more committed to their families and do a better job of taking care of their children, husbands and homes than other women.

[OddBeMe]

(Sigh) no one is disrespected nor mocking “traditional” gender roles. Stop pretending to be a victim.

[Asker]

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I was just talking about my experiences and the opinions of my family and friends on the topic, so I was really unsure of how everyone else felt about it. I know I overreacted a bit by downloading this app and asking this question but I really did want to know how other people felt about it. I'm glad not everyone is disrespecting or mocking traditional gender roles. I'm sorry if I implied I'm the victim, I didn't mean to come across like that. Thank you for your opinion though💞

[OddBeMe]

And yet you’re still doing it.

[Asker]

Oh sorry, I dont know what im doing.

[OddBeMe]

You’re thinking you’re an aggrieved member of society for wanting the traditional life. When no one gives a shit.

[Asker]

Welll okay then, thanks for your opinion

[AFellowWeeb]

yeah, not all of us want to become ATMs, while u have fun home with the plumber

[Asker]

Oh okay, I see where your coming from. Is that what a lot of people think women do if they stay at home? I wouldn't do anything like that but i am put off on being a traditonal wife if thats what people think i do. Thank you for your opinion💓

[Anonymous]

No. If that is your belief, you are entitled to it.

[Hangry22]

If you want that, go for it. Most guys want that

[AlexanderAnttila]

Not bad at all.