If she pretends she is on the pill when she isn't, is she evil?

Question

Scenario: Man does not want to be a father, woman wants to be a mother, she tells him she is on the pill so they have unprotected sex when really she is not. Is she evil?

Smoke-n-Growls · Accepted Answer

Yes. Fucking evil, and the man should not need to pay any child support if she does get pregnant.

This and poking holes in condoms should be considered similar to rape should the woman be impregnated.

The man - who under every reasonable communication would have thought the chance of having a baby was minimal - should not be held responsible if the woman tries to baby trap him.

If she insists on keeping the baby despite the fact the man will have no involvement nor financial obligation, she must provide for it on her own. This is assuming she lives in a free country with access to abortion - it may not be practical in a backwards country with illegal abortion like the USA.

It isn't fair for a raped woman to be forced to carry her rapist's child. Likewise, it is not fair for a man to unknowingly have unprotected sex with a woman misrepresenting her status on the pill or poking holes in condoms.

Poking holes in condoms should be a criminal charge, too. I've heard horror stories of crazy MILs poking holes in condoms of their own daughters in an attempt to force grandchildren on their child.

It's fucking crazy doing anything like that. Honestly it's a big reason I got sterilized. My mother's fucking insane and I'm no contact, but if she were in my life it's not beyond her to poke holes in condoms to get me pregnant (and likely kill me in childbirth, but hey, mother would think it's worth it).

Aerissa_Jade · Accepted Answer

I'd say its evil, even though it could be something like I have a IUD or some other method but it fails. Is it still evil when something is tried but fails?

I only say this is evil IF she is doing that for a child and then wanting to get him for child support. Just as bad as those women that go through the trash to find condoms full of stuff to get themselves pregnant and then go for child support, from someone they may have never even has sex with.

Pill or not, he could still use a condom... that is his choice.

I do find it extremely evil though to try to legally steal someone's money.

ImJustSomeGuyLol · Accepted Answer

Yes, this is evil and manipulative. Lying to someone about contraception being used does not allow the person to make an informed decision. It's 100% wrong for a man to take a condom off midway, or lie about a vasectomy. It's no different if a woman lies about taking the pill or having an IUD.
People have a right to know about the reproductive and health status of their sexual partners. Rape by deception is becoming a thing, and this would fall right into it, this could one day get people fined or jail time.

There are many men in this world that want kids, if this is you or someone you know, please go find someone that wants children too.

RavVid · Accepted Answer

Semen stealing is becoming a thing now it seems. If the woman is not going to make any claims on the man it is not so bad but is still wrong. If she does so intending to go after him for child support it is monstrously evil.

Apart from the scenario wives have gone off the pill without telling their husband. Equally evil.

In Australia as I understand it, semen is considered a free gift. So a girl emptying the contents of a used condom into herself can't be charged with property theft. Probably this would be consistent across the anglosphere. Mostly guys want to give it away to as many girls as poss.

Reaper1985 · Answer

it's called entrapment because she's forcing him to be part of her life now in a physically and/or financially way. due to outdated laws which favor females in courts regarding relationships and/or parenthood. guys don't have the option to forsake parenthood by law like girls do when they choose to abort. guys need an option to legally sign away rights and responsibilities for raising children they didn't plan to have. which would then remove him as the legal father and cut him off from contact with the children as well. until the children turned 18 and choose to seek him out on their own.

to quote Dave Chapelle "her body her choice - his money his choice"

Adaeva · Answer

I voted "No" because she is only telling a white lie to get what she wants. It is not her fault the law forces men to pay child support. Besides, any man foolish enough to believe a women will tell the truth when that keeps her from getting what she wants is only getting what he deserves.

Prettygurl12 · Answer

I voted A.

Evil might be too strong of a word, but to lie about something like that is despicable. You're creating life. People are way too blasé about that fact. You are creating a human being. Both parties responsible for that new human should be aware of and in agreement with that plan.

Baby trapping men is disgusting. And creating a human by means of deceit is straight up just bad karma.

fonduegirl · Answer

Nope. And he breaks up with her once she's pregnant, I wouldn't blame him. He made it clear fatherhood doesn't interest him — he shouldn't be forced to pay for something he doesn't want.

PS. If I were the man, I'd put on a condom. Precaution is better than cure.

midnightmoon05 · Answer

She is evil and selfish. She doesn’t care about anyone. The kid’s right, love is being robbed… they are the real victim. They deserve love from both loving parents.
I know some women are vicious…but this for sure is bottom of the scums, lying and cheating for her self illness.

D_Bone_Steak · Answer

I think I've seen this IRL way too many times. 9 times out of 10 you see the real reason the chick did it when he's kicked out and paying her rent and she's boinking every dude around that can do some pushups. I don't know if I want to call it evil but it sure is fucked up... and shame on any person, male or female, that raised a boy that has no idea women like that exist.

mstbooblover · Answer

Although she's obviously not honest with her lover, calling her evil seems naïve to me. There's a saying : "What a woman really wants is what God wants"... Seriously, if a woman really wants children, she most likely will have them, if not with her lover, then with someone else. Keep that in mind ;0)

Anonymous · Answer

It's a terrible thing to do. Trying to get pregnant by someone who doesn't want a child through deciet. And it will either force them to become a parent which they dont want to be. As well as many other things such as having to pay for a child. This is not good for the guy nor the child.

I wouldn't say it's evil but it's a very wrong thing tkdo. And should be a punishable offense. As I see it both parties consented to protected sex where there are some risks or pregnancy. There wasn't the consent to unprotected sex. I don't know how best to classify it.

Anonymous · Answer

A baby should always be a mutual decision. It’s a big step in life. So yeah, that would be evil and selfish. I don’t know why anyone would want to do it that way. Before I was on birth control, I always let the guy know before we did anything so he could put on a condom or pull out.

bamesjond0069 · Answer

Yes. If a woman does this the only good outcome is to cease all contact and abandon the child. There is zero chance this can work out.

Its no different than if a woman was beaten and raped in an alley and then decides welp we had sex guess we are going to marry and raise this child. Zero chance that will work out too.

bones_20 · Answer

It’s an incredibly nasty thing to do. Knowing how he feels about it and trying to trick him into it is just is not ok. It’s not something to take lightly.

sage2021 · Answer

Best thing to do would be for you to wear protection when you are having sex with her.  Saying she is on the pill when she isn't shows you she is not trustworthy. Use protection!

Whatever2929292 · Answer

Lying is wrong. But at the same time if you would not be sleeping with her you would not have to worry about it. If you are married then yes she is wrong

Jessica405 · Answer

Yes. She may end up with a kid, but no guy. The kid may never get to know its father. Ya can't trap a guy by getting pregnant!

Mcmickeys · Answer

They are both evil. They are fornicating. They are having sex and not married. Sex without commitment leads to heartache and headaches.

purplepoppy · Answer

I was told by a doctor that 90% of cases of contraception pill failure are bullshit and its the women pulling a stunt and not actually taking them

Daniela1982 · Answer

She is at least an idiot, and it might just bite her in the ass.

leighbee · Answer

I think I saw a post recently about this. It is there descion tbh and all we can do is offer advice as again it is not our choice 🤷‍♀️

LazerBean · Answer

I think that's an awful thing to do, but that's also the risk you take when you sleep around.

Anonymous · Answer

This is why I wrap it regardless. Yes riding in bareback is another dimension when it comes to pleasure. I’ve only done it after I’ve know the girl for quite a while (and I am sure he’s on the pill or IUD). But plenty of women do have ulterior motives. In fact this is how my brother became a daddy unexpectedly.

Anonymous · Answer

I don't know about evil. But she's not very bright. On one hand, I hope for her sake, and more so for the potential child's sake he's an honorable guy. But on the other hand. I feel bad for the (honorable) guys as now he's chained at least by the bonds of this (potential) child. To this devious woman for the rest of his life.
Fellas! THIS is why you should always wear a condom. Whether she says she's on the pill or not. Health wise it's safer anyhow.

limsasi · Answer

Yes, that's manipulation, and he has every right to leave her for that. I surely will.

worldscolide · Answer

She's absolutely evil. What she is doing is called paternity fraud.

CallmeTheKnight · Answer

She is because the tramp is a liar. Now whatever fool gets her pregnant will have to deal with her for the rest of his life.

Subarugirl · Answer

Evil aside that is illegal and would be considered a degree of rape.

VanillaSalt · Answer

Evils a word I wouldn’t use… stupid cunt bitch that deserves to be tortured sure but not evil. Seems cruel but let’s be honest… fuck this bitch.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

On the basis of that fact, alone, I would not call her evil. I would at least call her selfish, arrogant, and self-centered.

Massageman · Answer

She is being deceitful. Add other adjectives as desired.

joeldalton · Answer

Going by a woman's definition of consent, it's rape.

Anonymous · Answer

Manipulative and selfish too. And just imagine if it was reversed how she'd feel?

AviatorTom · Answer

She's not evil, but she is definitely misleading and controlling, and doesn't care about the guy impregnating her.

whiskeyontherocks · Answer

This should be a breach of trust and low morals. Probably shouldn’t be allowed to raise a child.

kellytheman · Answer

I wouldn't say evil but very coneving and untrustworthy.

Panzer21 · Answer

Evil might be a stretch but its exceedingly dishonest. That relationship isn't going to work, and she is trying to trap a man when she could find someone else or get artificial insemination.

boobliker · Answer

record her when she says it. just in case, and if you think that use comdoms.

RationalMale · Answer

That would be rape by deception. Same as if a guy poked holes in a condom.

baserunner611 · Answer

Is stupid in love ❤️, people who in love do stupid thing

lightbulb27 · Answer

not evil, evil is destructive. she is manipulative and selfish.

MCheetah · Answer

Yeah. That should be outright illegal. And it's amazing how many women support this.

Jamie05rhs · Answer

That's wrong in so many ways. Not sure if it qualifies as rape (if not, it's on a technicality), but it certainly should be some sort of crime.

bolverk · Answer

As a guy I would still use a condom even if the woman I was going to have sex with said she was on birth control.

Xbrb483 · Answer

That right there is a reason why she shouldn't have kids to begin with...

Anonymous · Answer

Women have stolen mine for good looking babies, this is totally wrong, basically I have children but I don't know.

maximumpower · Answer

she's a liar and willing to drag someone else's life into her sick game. cut her loose; let her do it to someone else.

Anonymous · Answer

If he does not want to have kid and you do this then definitely be prepared to raise the kid alone. :P

Jltakk · Answer

Yes, thats horrible. In fact, she should face time for it.

mandyfire98 · Answer

That's pretty evil in my opinion

sheikalana · Answer

She's evil, manipulative and a liar.

boggboss · Answer

A incredibly shitty thing to do

WhitneySnow · Answer

No. Not evil but she is selfish.

JosyJosy · Answer

Yep, sounds pretty evil to me.

Anonymous · Answer

Yep. And that kid won't have a father in their life so she'll fuck the child up as well.

annabananna · Answer

At the very least selfish and untrustworthy

Exterminatore · Answer

It’s the epitome of evil.

Sparkie460 · Answer

There should be a law against doing that.

PatriceONeal · Answer

It's rape.. that is rape.

LovingLoverReturned · Answer

Put her in prison.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

Yeah thats pretty evil.

jimmy2 · Answer

It's sure wrong but it's life women do that

Slim57 · Answer

Yes that is scummy as hell

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