Why are women so totally clueless about men?

[KrakenAttackin]

Seriously, men are the simplest creatures and yet women seem to have no clue whatsoever, about what men need and want. Do women just not care about what men want? Why is keeping a man so hard for so many women when men are so easy?

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+1 y

There are the top 5% men who just want to sex their way through tons of women. The other 95% of men want a reasonably attractive (in his eyes), KIND, compassionate, loyal, occasionally attentive, feminine, woman.

No man wants a "bad bitch", or "strong and independent" (read: loud, obnoxious, mean) woman. We are not "intimidated" by strong and independent, we just don't like it.

It's not that hard ladies.

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+1 y

I see women hurling insults at men, saying "it's not up to us to understand men", there is serious female entitlement below.

It's clear women don't see any reason to understand men, because women think men exist as disposable, expendable, replaceable, interchangeable, machines.

[Mia-Wallace]

"Women" will never understand "men" because those terms are abstractions of the sum of all the unique individuals with penises and unique individuals with vaginas. The groupings are based on similarities, not differences, and it's usually our differences that matter when we want to truly know each other for forming long-term close friendships. (yes, the generalization is very useful in everyday communication, identification, and even as a basis for people's relationships, but it's never enough for a lasting relationship).

One woman could understand one man if she tries hard enough. If you have an extended family who shares similar genes, culture, upbringing, social class, education, etc. you could probably know a bunch more men to a degree (and even in a family, people can be very different and difficult). Even your father is more of a god, an archetype, than an actual person, and embodies the overall aesthetics that you will hopefully come to love (as you will share a lot of what he is). As a very unique individual, it's your mother who (hopefully) knows him, and if you want more, you have to get to know him, that is if he wishes to open up. Many fathers keep some distance because they must discipline their children.

Same for men.

I'm quite sure the experience of knowing my guy, with his specific Swedish-German cultural background, his social class, struggles, education, behaviors, kinks, mental health, etc. is a lot different than knowing you, even though as a man he shares similarities with you. My duty as his wife is not to generalize and act as if I'm living with an archetype, a cliché, but to know and long to know everything specific to him.

To make it simpler, the conservative rule of affirmation, feeding, and sex is an obvious necessity (Is there an adult female or male who doesn't like to be emotionally supported, fucked, and fed?), but it's not enough, never was (no, conservative relationships before the 1960s weren't all happy). It takes a lot more sweating to form and keep a happy and lasting close friendship with a man. To become the woman he comes back to and eventually wants to die for/with. But it seems like many women do not even like to follow those simple necessary rules to create a functioning household, and yes, some of them don't even want to consider a man's "assumed" needs - it's all about them.

And honestly, I don't know what a lot of them want. A lot of them just seem confused between their sexual desires, ambitions, insecurities, and an inferiority complex/fear of submission put in their heads by some ideologues. Girls I saw who weren't confused about what they want (and when they want it) have good families.

I do think the reason for this confusion and inconsistency is that the average woman is just as dumb as the average guy (even though they pretend they're not). When you look closely, many smart women end up educated, relatively well-off, and married (to a smart guy like themselves. That's supported by some data), even when they come from some crappy household. But I guess dumber people needed a proper system to function/keep their lives more consistent and now they are malfunctioning and confused in this "freedom" and abundance of choices, exactly at a time they can take what worked before and perfect it. (yes, that sounds elitist, but IDGAF)

And everything I said about women applies to men.

[MannyFrs]

thanks for the book maybe write an E Book for Amazon

[humbeliving23]

what you wrote is not even close to truth. this some kind of projection..
i quote OP, 95% (if not more) guys looking for exactly what he said from a woman. women think strong and financial stability guys looking for when they are the one looking for that, just shows that they NEVER cared about man's wants and needs. yes i agree women are as dumb as men. the only reason girls do so much better on avg in school is because they dont have friends to be outside with 8 hours after school

[Subarugirl]

Because men are due more credit than you are giving them. Men are certainly not as simple as you would like to insinuate.
Relationships fail for many reasons and it's generally it's because of issues on both sides.
Do I care about what men in general want? kind of, but I am not going to sacrifice myself in order to try and twist myself in to what "men want". I have my man, and his wants and need are important to me, and I try to meet those because I love him and I want to. You need a hand to hold the door or someone to give you a jump when your battery dies, I will help you out same as I would anyone else. However women are not responsible for your needs and wants, you are.
Women have a pretty good idea about what men want, it's not like its a big secret. The thing is though, is that women are not obligated to give that to you and she won't unless she want's to, and she certainly isn't going to want to if she isn't getting anything out of it. If you want the perks of being in a healthy committed relationship, without putting in the effort to actively work on it's health, or being committed, it's not going to work out very well for you.
Unfortunately for some of you, just brining pay check home doesn't cut it. In fact, contributing financially to a relationship is the absolute least important contribution you can make, and it is certainly not going to cut it. If you want a transactional relationship, hire a hooker or a sugar baby. If you want an actual relationship then you have to contribute emotionally, and physically.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. So, women know what men want but don't want to be desirable to men, because that simple fucking approach to a relationship somehow demeans women. And you wonder why men just use women for sex. Using your logic why should men give a flying fuck what women want?

[Subarugirl]

Try rereading what I wrote and come back with a logical reply instead of an emotionally charged irrational one

[katelouise-6]

Hell yea. Guys just see what they want to see and that’s why women are “oblivious” to mens needs

[Whatever2929292]

You're right. But not all men are the same the same as all women aren't. You are also right All women the same as all men can't change to fit every woman's needs. Number one that is not possible and you have to find someone who you meet each other's wants and needs in that way.

If you just assume all men want sex (and sorry if that was not what you meant) then I think you're a misandrist. Not all men are the same the same as all women aren't either.

Yes relationships go both ways. If one has to do everything and gets nothing in return... Then the relationship would fail or end up with one person being miserable

[Whatever2929292]

I don't have a problem with people who want something traditional. There are women out there who want that too. But there has to be a give and take. What I do have a problem with is people forcing something on everyone to change because someone is romantically or sexually frustrated.

There are women who think this way too. I am sorry but I am not going to change either. I don't care what some random woman out there thinks is attractive or what a "real man" is. I think women like that are pathetic

[Whatever2929292]

BUT... To be fair. When you're in a relationship it is both person's job to help each other and fit the others wants and needs in that regard. But not just random people you don't even know

[Whatever2929292]

To tell you another thing... Why do you think men should care what your wants or needs are if you don't care what they need and want? You know things work both ways and good men (and good women) walk away from one sided.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 because there is a big difference between being a people pleaser and worrying about the male gaze of every man you walk past and caring for your significant other or the men in your life. I could care less about what some random guy on the internet thinks about my hair, or the make up I wear. However I value and respect the thoughts and opinions of my husband.

[Whatever2929292]

You're right about that. Now that is true. I am the same way. I put effort into myself I don't want to look like a slob or stink or anything like that.

But I am not going to change for people either. I don't know why some men and some women think that ALL women or men or even sometimes both should change... Who are not their significant others. Why does it matter?

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 maybe ask Kraken.. he’s the one who seems to be so upset about how women don’t do what he thinks they should

[Whatever2929292]

But see your only response is you don't believe in God. I have said a lot of other things as well... That you won't touch.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 maybe as a specific question then so that what you are asking is clear instead of wright 3 paragraphs about something that we weren't even talking about...

[OlderAndWiser]

Women assume that the opposite sex must think and feel the same as they do because they can't fathom how we could be different. So they see us in a sitation and think to themselves, "How would I feel in that situation?" and then they assume that we are feeling the same that they would feel. Totally invalid assumption, because

Men Are From Mars, Women Are From A Parallel Universe.

Of course, men make the same mistake when thinking about women. If only Eve had not eaten that damned apple!

[Reaper1985]

modern feminism and toxic masculinity are the great lies those in power teach young children. using schools, media and other sources to break up the traditional family unit. which causes more single parent households and/or adults to not have children. males and females aren't meant to be equals there meant to be compatible and work together.

[Apple1996]

Men and women are total opposites so it's hard for us to understand each other. What I've learned over time from being constantly surrounded by men most of my life is that men are not simple. They might think they are but nope y'all are difficult to. People in general are not simple. Its takes actually wanting to learn someone as a individual to understand them. Which even with that is a lifelong process since everyone changes with time. And personally never had any issues keeping a man since I'm putting in the time and energy to learn about my husband and what keeps him happy.

[TrueConfection]

I think women over-simplify men and take them for granted. Men and women think differently for physiological reasons.

For example; men use different areas of their brain seperately (either logic or emotion) where women use both at once.

There seems to be a notion that men don't have emotions (or in the case they display their emotions that they are unintelligent or immature).

I posted something a while back on this subject and the men seemed to agree where the responses from the women were more along the lines of, "But what about me? How will that affect ME?" 🙄

[whirled_up_girl]

I don't know when I was younger most of the men I dated even for a few dates all seem to want something different from a relationship and out of life. When I was younger I wanted a committed longterm relationship that would eventually lead to marriage and a family. However, when this didn't happen I decided to give up on that idea and become more self-sufficient to be able to live comfortably on my own even though that can be lonely. Now I'm trying to just understand and appreciate what drives men and women in life and why their priorities for relationships are sometimes different. I can see how striking the right balance could be a challenge. That being said, yeah, I still don't have a clue about most of you, and joining gag seems to have made me even more confused, lol.

[Jamie05rhs]

But that's kind of the point, though. You've already learned the most important principle about men: we're all different.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Jamie05rhs But not really. Pretty much all men want peace in the home a faithful partner, a kind partner, femininity... it's not that hard.

[whirled_up_girl]

@Jamie05hrs thanks! @KrakenAttackin I can't even really debate with you if you've already decided that my not being married is because of me being mean, disloyal, or lacking compassion (per your update). I'm actually quite shy and soft-spoken in real life. I didn't date Chads or Alphas or the top 5 percent, hardly, they were just regular men, that we're trying to figure sh*t out like the rest of us. I don't even blame them really for not wanting a commitment but that's what I wanted back then, and they didn't. Some of us are just dealt a bad deck of cards when it comes to luck and relationships but that doesn't mean we don't ultimately value similar things in a long-term partner and want to offer that in return.

[humbeliving23]

where did you come with that? that he think you are not in relationship because all of those things? uhmmm

[whirled_up_girl]

@humbeliving23 Your late to the party bro. This debate didn't start in this thread, Kraken and I had this debate going on for a while in different threads, but now he seems to have disappeared off gag and I just appear on GAG intermittently to escape reality from time to time.

[Cuminginside]

I guess he cracked after all sweet pea You forgot my popcorn. Why should I pay the price of boxing tickets when I can easily come on here for free.

[Pinay_ako]

You can’t keep a person if they don’t want to be with you no matter what you do, they’ll walk away… unless you chain them to the wall. That’s a different story 🤣

To answer your question, I do care about what my man wants. I like to communicate. Even if it results into a fight, talk to me! I’m your partner, not a stranger.

[Whatever2929292]

If you don't care what your man wants. Why do you some of you say this and then think that a man should fulfill your wants and needs? It works BOTH ways... LOL

[Pinay_ako]

@Whatever2929292 when did I say I don’t care? 😒 I care too much sometimes that we argue about it… so what’s the problem? And yes it works both ways or else I’d go solo if it’s one sided 😑

[Whatever2929292]

I apologize. You're right. I get too caught up in things. You seem like a good person and caring. You said you did care what your man wants I thought for some reason you said you did not.

To be fair there were comments like that posted on here. So I am sorry about that

[Pinay_ako]

@Whatever2929292 no worries 😌.

[Whatever2929292]

thanks LOL. Sorry about that

[Pinay_ako]

@Whatever2929292 apology accepted 😃

[Whatever2929292]

Thank you. Just a misunderstanding I did not mean to come at you like that

[LazerBean]

A lot of women don't have a father figure, or don't have a decent one. The ones that did know what the different types of men want, we are just selective about which of those types of men we decide to care about.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LazerBean. Well, that makes sense.

[humbeliving23]

this is nowhere near a valid reason. my dad nor my mother were good role models and i still grew up.. meh, just fine i quess. took a lot of work. also disagreeing to your "decide to care about" are you not a hypocrite with this. literall just had conversation with god about this last night that i can't pick persons i treat better than others haha

[hahahmm]

Most women aren't worth your time. And even a lot of the ones that are will only act right when with a guy who requires that & who she believes will be a good investment towards her life goals. Of course many love struck dudes & tons of women will say I'm full of sh&t.

[humbeliving23]

@hahahmm you are a very wise guy. as hurtful your comment may be for most women. did you read book of Job? his wife told him to curse God and die off. Lot's wife? she snapped.

[hahahmm]

@humbeliving23 Thank you. I learned a lot the hard way but I believe all the answers are in the Bible too. In fact... I feel like 99% of them are in the first few chapters of Genesis but most people don't get it.

[KrakenAttackin]

I have a Giga -Chad friend and I am gearing up to my take about his experiences with women. It will be a wakeup for sure.

[hahahmm]

@KrakenAttackin Sounds good

[Anonymous]

Women only care what the top 5% of men want.
They want douchebags and assholes.
They want to be the one girl who magically makes him a “better man”
They are stupid and believe guys will actually change and think they are actually going to be special enough to be that one.

So since the top 5% are the guys who want trashy easy slutty females, most girls think being a trashy, slutty, “ratchet”, bitch is somehow going to get these guys.

The “strong and independent” farce is hilarious because no female is strong and independent.
It easy to believe you are strong and independent when society does everything in it’s power to make you life easy.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@KrakenAttackin this is what I hate. This mentality. This false mentality that creates hopelessness in guys.

I know you think I favor women, but do you really think that believing that we are only valuable if we are the top 5% of men (whatever that means) helps us in any way?

That only helps to make guys lose hope when it's all a bunch of bullshit. Way more than 5% of guys are in happy relationships with girls that wouldn't trade them for all the gold in the world.

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 sadly the truth doesn’t care if you like it or not it’s still remains true

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

What truth? Who is saying that? Where do you gathered that information?

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8
Tinder used it’s actual app data to show how women only want the top 1% of men.
medium.com/.../tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

Men earn 61.5% of all income but only account for 25% of domestic spending. Men only spend 40% of what they earn after tax. In contrast women make up 38.5% of all income but control around 75% of domestic spending , women on average spend 90% MORE MONEY THAN THEY EARN.
https://www.catalyst.org/research/buying-power/

Divorces are initiated by women 80% of the time.
Men pay 97% of Alimony

Men lose custody in 84% of divorces.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

1. Yes a dating app based on looks alone. When most men can't even take a decent picture to save their lives that's not an accurate representation.
Studies were made when people had to rate others attractiveness, before and after they talk they get to know each other.
Women's ratings of men changed a lot after they got to know they. For better and worse. While men's ratings of women were basically the same.

2. Of course this happens. Do you know where people spend more money? Food, clothes and other necessities. Do you know who usually does the shopping for that, for the entire family? Guess who.
But what does that have to do with anything?

3. It's actually 70% of the time. But so what? If you are white and you marry a white woman your chances of divorce are 35%. Out of those 35% they initiate 70%. So after you say "I do" the odds that she will divorce you are 24.5%. Why is this a problem?

4. Regarding alimony, yes because men insist on marrying women that can't provide for themselves. We should have higher standards.

5 Men don't fight for custody most of the times. No really, in 51% of divorces BOTH parents agree that the children should stay with the mother. We win close to half the custody battles they actually fight.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

But wait up!
Nothing that I said is against men. It seems like today we are the ones trying to play victims of society when we are actually not. Just look at the facts and ignore the lies that go around the internet.

"Men lose custody most of the time". Do you know what message this sends? That is hopeless. That is useless to fight because you will lose anyway. When no! No no! That is the worse thing you can say. It only worsen the main problem.

The article with that "51% don't fight stat" said that it was because we don't fight when we think we have a chance. So to spread the lie that the court is bias is literally the worst thing we can do.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

"... we don't fight when we think we DON'T* have a chance..."

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8
Dating apps reflect women’s dating preference. It is completely valid as a reference of how women select men.

Men do have it worse overall. We don’t “play victim”, statistically women live in a life of privilege and men are disposable. This isn’t internet hyperbole, it’s statistically proven time and time again.

In every aspect of life.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

But they don't chose us like that. That is the core of the question. Looks are just your presentation card. How attractive you are to them depends a lot on who you are.

But that is not backed up by the facts. Like Churchill used to say "A lie will travel across the world before the truth got it's pants on". Don't believe in what you read online. Make a non bias research.

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 When most males approach a female they are instantly met with rejection on the forefront. It is a natural female kneejerk reaction to shut down guys when they approach. Unless the guy has insane looks or money/power.
Then if a guy is persistent, they are called creeps and potentially accused of harassment.

It is only in less common situations when a female “gets to know” a guy via work or other situations and the guy makes his interest known that I female takes interest in him.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Yes we do most if the approach and so get most of the rejection. But so what? That doesn't make our lives bad.
We have plenty opportunities to show who we are, like at work like you said.

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I have to ask a serious question...
Have you ever actually dealt with women?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I am married dude. Also I have sisters and had several girlfriends.

[KrakenAttackin]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Only 14% of married women describe their marriage as "happy".

[Opinion Owner]

They are only “happy” when they can get away with affairs and spending money.

[KrakenAttackin]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You can't fight the gynocracy, you can only choose not to engage it at all.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Where do you saw that 14% stat?
I already saw that statistically married women are happier than married woman, but honestly I don't that either of those stats are true.

[JSmuve]

It's because of their solipsistic nature. They don't feel like they have to understand men. Men should understand her and change for her. But she's "fine just the way she is". This leads to one-sided relationships where the guy feels undervalued. Then when things go sideways and she tries to understand why, it's either "men are confusing" or "men just want sex". Clear, unbiased, introspection is not really a woman's strength here because she runs the risk of finding out she's not adequate enough, which her ego won't allow because, circling back, she's "fine just the way she is" and "men need to be better".

[Lionman95]

For the same reason that many guys are clueless about women. People nowadays have a hard time comprehending that there are differences between the sexes and one of the biggest ones is communication.
Women tend to choose the "wrong" guys because these guys are often charismatic, out going and are good communicators and that´s what girls like.
Men tend to choose women that look great and are falling for the best looking girls but they are not always the right people for a relationship.

[humbeliving23]

@Lionman95 this is like the worst subject to be reversed like this "(your 1st sentence)" no offense ish. and you know it which makes this so funny

[hoqhuuep]

Not sure women actually are clueless about men. Maybe they just have different priorities when it comes to the info that matters to them.

E. g. to women, the answer to the question "will this man try to rape or kill me" matters a lot. So they're relatively good at noticing sketchy vibes (sometimes too good).

OTOH, the question of "how do I get this guy to sleep with me" is not very important, because most guys want to do that anyway.

[KrakenAttackin]

@hoqhuuep. Ok, I get the "will he kill me" vibe, and yes, most guys will dump a load in her. The question I have is why are women utterly clueless about everything in-between.

[hoqhuuep]

I don't know, but from my vantage point, what would be the evolutionary pressure for women to understand men, beyond how to avoid being harmed by them, and how to keep them around?

If as a guy you understand women, the evolutionary upside is so much greater.

[KrakenAttackin]

@hoqhuuep. So you theorize that evolution wants women to have paired off prior to hitting the wall so there is no drive to understand men? Perhaps but as so many women are 'shung yu" (leftover women), you would think women would make the tiniest effort to understand men.

[hoqhuuep]

Maybe I'm being unfair, but I feel like procreating should be really easy for women, the challenge is a) being picky, but not too picky, and b) making him stick around.

But the getting laid part requires very little understanding of men in my opinion.

But of course it always becomes simplistic and presumptuous when one generalizes about large groups of people like this.

Also, in my experience, it's not that women don't try to understand men, but perhaps the culture doesn't exactly encourage it. I dunno, I'm blathering.

[KrakenAttackin]

@hoqhuuep. It should be easy for women, but they seem to be lost in the wilderness.

Most men do just fine on their own, but women (as evidenced by Tik Tok) lose their damn minds when they are alone. You would think this would spur women to make an effort to understand the basics of men, but I guess they don't get it.

[hoqhuuep]

I don't really have the same impression. Most women I have met could get guys easily, so it's more about quality, right. I think most of them dream of the knight in shining armor (or the black knight) perhaps sweeping them off their feet, etc.

But yeah, if you look at who is involuntarily celibate, my guess would be mostly dudes.

[hoqhuuep]

Also, in my experience, women are just people. Some of them are extremely self-centered and clueless about men, others really are not, and are quite interested in men and ask a lot of questions.

Look at how many women expressed compassion for Johnny Depp during his trial.

[humbeliving23]

@hoqhuuep did you message this after getting rejected for the 924th time?

[Jamie05rhs]

I'm assuming you're not forgetting that some men don't want to be kept.

But setting those aside, ... I really don't know. I think the main issue is their lack communicativeness. Because if they asked a guy directly what he wanted, he would probably give her an answer. (At least I would.)

[Jamie05rhs]

Only 5% of men want to "sex their way through tons of women"? I don't know; dawg. I think the number is much higher than that. I think it's more like 65%.

[Jamie05rhs]

Of course, there's a difference between wanting and actually doing. Lol. Many of those guys will only have sex with like 2 or 3 women in their lifetime.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Jamie05rhs. Ok, let me amend my statement. Only 5% of men CAN sex their way through a ton of women.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Jamie05rhs. Let's add that most women have no idea what they want.

[Jamie05rhs]

@KrakenAttackin Okay; in that case I would put the number at 15%.

[Jamie05rhs]

"Let's add that most women have no idea what they want."

And yeah, I agree with that!

[Anonymous]

Most women only care about their own desires, needs and wants. This means they project and cannot place themselves in an other's shoe. Therefore why would they be able to understand a man?

Don't believe me? The next time you talk to a woman, note how much and how often she only talks about herself.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Your perception is flawed and bias. Men in general and people in general aren't as simple as you are trying to portray.

People have all kinds of needs and wants and they can be bitchy about those needs and wants, when they want it and how they want it and if they don't get it then they start bitching and moaning causing annoyance to the other person.

[superdonkey]

I think it's because a lot of women don't have a father figure and they see a mother struggling on her own possibly going through a lot of bad relationships from what I understand it's generational learn to behavior Grandma to Mom Mom to daughter I find it interesting that they complain about not finding a good man yet they're always pregnant

[Wubs3000]

Man these comments...
I would say you are overgeneralizing by a long shot. You are one guy you can't speak for everyone.
Its impossible to know what goes through anyone's head. And everyone one, even guys are different and have different wants a needs.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

This here👏👏

[isoldeskywalker]

Well, judging by the amount of questions I’ve asked on here, I’d say that we were just made that way. I guess it’s the mystery we end up figuring out! Besides, it’s not like men know how to hold down women all the time, either… I suppose we have to just learn about each other more and try being more open and straightforward.

[N192K001]

Men & women see the world (and, hence behave) differently.

If your map, radar, strengths, vulnerabilities, experiences, threats, allies, protocols, priorities, objectives, etc. are all different, is it a wonder that they make sense of things by projecting what they do know to us (who are similarly different, and do the same)?

[Juxtapose]

It is funny how a lot of women will insist on projecting their overcomplicated thought processes when us men really are simple as you said.

I want a woman who can get my dick hard and make me have more fun than I do in my solitude. I want her to be loyal like a true friend and love me like I'm her dream.

[humbeliving23]

@Juxtapose not very christian comment but i kind of agree ish? sex is not important to me but all those others apply. men's wants dont bounce off from those about 7 wants, which women are clueless about (which is heavily concerning and an actual danger to humanity at this point)

[Juxtapose]

@humbeliving23 I am an atheist homie, I hope I didn't sound Christian! They're stone cold killers! Check out what Leviticus says to do the gay people, it's fucking disgusting and people actually follow that stupid book? How dumb can you get?

But anyways, what 7 wants do you mean?

[Whatever2929292]

Well number one not all men are the same and not all women are the same. We are also wired different in ways. Since they aren't men is why they don't understand us. I am sure women think the same thing sometimes.

But they can't read minds either

[humbeliving23]

@Whatever2929292 this is so weak argument. "not all men are same not all women are same." by this we are just ignoring what is taking place in the world. women realize at 30 that they actually need to develop a character, which is 5 years too late, MAX. (brains... literally BRAINS stop developing at 25 26, so it makes all personality progress enormously more painful)

[Apulu_Imback]

Both the genders are clueless about each other honestly. For us girls men are complex and for guys girls are complex.

[humbeliving23]

@Apulu_Imback not even close to the truth, which has fascinated me from a young age. (truth)

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Why are men on GAG so totally clueless about women?

[EmmaMary]

HEAR! HEAR! 👍

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@EmmaMary thanks but forgot the 'some" men, because I'm not idiot enough to lump all men as the same even t though there's "some"idiots on here that lump all women as the same🙄🤦🏼‍♀️

[humbeliving23]

@Brainsbeforebeauty unnecessary comment unless you explain what you mean. how some men are clueless about women?

[shaysh87]

Weren't you the guy who kept insisting that you only date women in their 20s and reject all women over the age of 30?

I don't think you are a simple guy with low standards if you say something like that.

[humbeliving23]

@shaysh87 i tried to mate myself quite hard at 17-24, 26 now, i dont date 24+, becase i can? kinda, but more like because i see it to be better for later

[maximumpower]

they don't care to learn.
guys will continue to come calling - until they don't.

[KrakenAttackin]

@maximumpower. Yes, until these women hit 30 and are suddenly desperate for a man but they have zero idea how to get/keep a man.

I guess when you have had ultimate power over men for 14 years or so, the sudden change is bewildering. Do woman not observe other older women? I mean, damn.

[KelleyNice]

Because they believe hot guys out of their league that will date them for their body, actually wantsa relationship when for a relationship the hot guys can do better.

[OnTheLevel]

People tend to think that things that are important to them are just as important to other people. Since women and men tend to have different priorities, it stands to reason that women and men would have difficulty understanding each other.

[FilmGuy93]

That's what happens when you spend your entire life being pandered to.

[Andres77]

They're selfish too...😉

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1ig9s3F83Rc

[Andres77]

@Apple1996

[Apple1996]

Lol what?

[Andres77]

@Apple1996
Did you smile?

[Apple1996]

Haha for sure 😊

[Andres77]

@Apple1996 mission accomplished
☺️☺️☺️

[Fuentes]

Their are do many reason but the main reason i choose for the blame is Social Media and TV

[Fuentes]

So **

[1GoldTwins]

Those percentages. Can at least 6 guys confirm these stats for me?

[Lionman95]

No sorry, I can´t. Even as a guy I´d 5% is too low, maybe if you say as a quota of all ages. But looking at guys under 30 I would say chances that guy just wants sex are way higher between 15-35% maybe also 40% depending on the area because many guys are regularly watching porn. Sex have become an important attribute of becoming a man in modern culture.
So I don´t think it´s that easy.

[1GoldTwins]

@Lionman95 Well thank you for confirming My suspicions :) That 95% had me like WOAW 😂

[fonduegirl]

You lost me when you stated your theories are facts.

[Anonymous]

they are not

they just do not care about men in general even the hot guys

all they want is to get their way

and it gets them killed cause they are stupid

https://www.youtube.com/embed/mICWFTmE440

I tell men to just rape them

cause they deserve it

[bluenboard]

i wonder why we dont care...

[Opinion Owner]

@bluenboard

your choice you women started it

there is a reason less women make it

[SaartjieJane]

Well I could say the same about men?
Why are men so totally clueless about women? We are so simple or at least some are.

[bluenboard]

I can't believe how stupid half the comment section is. Sure most women overcomplicate things and are very clueless about men but wonder why we don't care about YOUR needs maybe its because we dont care to change ourselves for men who can barely understand us. are you sure that women can't keep/get a man or is it that you can't get a women?

[KrakenAttackin]

@bluenboard. That's a pretty selfish attitude, especially for a 14 year old.

[bluenboard]

So do you think we should change ourselves for YOU? Someone who doesn't even like it if a woman is independent or strong? Do you think we need to accommodate for all YOUR needs? Or do you think that the most important thing for a woman is to keep a man by her side and fulfill all his needs? I am sick and tired of this comment section blaming everything on women when many men do the same thing. Do we blame the entire male population when they don't understand us, or understand why we're upset? Do we blame you guys when you can't keep a girl by your side when all we want is the same thing as you, a "KIND, compassionate, loyal, occasionally attentive, [manly, man]"?

no didn't think so.

I could say the same thing as you "its not that hard" to keep a woman if you just listen to her.

As a 42 year old man, I think you need to grow up and stop blaming women just because you can't seem to keep one by YOUR side. I think YOU should stop being selfish and only putting YOUR needs first.

To reply to some of the comments - if you're hungry make your own food and if your house is dirty clean it up yourself.

I hope you have a great day and I hope you realize a woman's purpose is not all about accommodating a man's needs.

[KrakenAttackin]

@bluenboard. 14 and already entitled and clueless.

[bluenboard]

42 and never felt the warmth of a woman

[Whatever2929292]

Some both men and women want to change EVERYONE. Due to the fact that not every woman or man fits their needs. What they need to do is look for their soulmate. That is a way to have that.

[bamesjond0069]

Because women are literally retarded. Don't really have a better explanation and im being totally serious

[Jamesshinobi]

i was with you even before you added the "about men"

[Likes2drive]

I don’t know we’re pretty easy to please , just keep our balls empty and our stomach‘s full

[msc545]

Women only care about men's money and their sperm. We know that.

[whirled_up_girl]

@msc545 Lol, yeah when we're looking for a man to support us and have a family with us we're gold diggers but when we give up on that idea and become more self sufficient we're looked at as man-hating feminists, (even if we're not). No matter what we do our actions we'll be wrong in someone's eyes.

[msc545]

@whirled_up_girl OR - do what a lot of women do - marry a guy have some children, get divorced, and live on the child support and alimony he has to pay.

[whirled_up_girl]

@msc545 That particular scenario is not one of my goals in life.

[msc545]

@whirled_up_girl There are other scenarios.

[humbeliving23]

@whirled_up_girl no you meet a nice decent guy at your 17-22 25 MAXX, force him to get a job if he doesn't have already, and live happily ever after supporting each other and raising children the right path. this way you are not gotten called a gold digger! you taking our real estate agent jobs AND want a guy with a decent salary, double theft no wonder you have a reaction from guys (?)

[whirled_up_girl]

Real estate jobs, I work as nurse, lol.

[PatriceONeal]

It's more like they don't want to face the truth. They peaked through the curtains and didn't like what they saw. They saw equality not being true and that men are mostly right thanks to their aptitude for logic and reason over feelings and emotion.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Really, how logical is it for a 33 year old "man" to insult an internet stranger, that sounds more childish than logical to me🤷🏼‍♀️

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Oh and for anyone reading this reply, I didn't mean good comment to this post but rather the insults he left out of the blue on a post of mine from over a year ago, which tried letting know internet insults don't bother me but at the same time if they keep going on even after you tell them to move on, yeah deleted that thread altogether... But those don't sound like the actions of a logical, reasonable man🤷🏼‍♀️

[PatriceONeal]

@Brainsbeforebeauty post a link or something. Nobody wants your heresay witch.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Hearsay huh you know when you remove an opinion, it also reports it to GAG so I'm sure I'm hardly the only one that saw your childish insults to a lady you don't even know for no good reason.. Again so logical of you 🤣🤣

[PatriceONeal]

@Brainsbeforebeauty the one that humorously called out your hypocrisy and callousness? Am I supposed to feel shame? Silly little girl.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

My hypocrisy? Sure okay, you didn't mention hypocrisy, you tried insulting my looks and my age... Too bad you don't know what a spinster really is.. I'm a widow not a spinster, I have been married, two kids and grandson.. That's not a spinster🤣

[PatriceONeal]

@Brainsbeforebeauty uhh I did mention hypocrisy. Why must you lie?

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

No you didn't... Why must you lie and again, what hypocrisy?

[PatriceONeal]

@Brainsbeforebeauty Don't delete your damning evidence next time hypocrite idiot.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Keep insulting🤷🏼‍♀️ who's the idiot🤷🏼‍♀️🤣

[PatriceONeal]

@Brainsbeforebeauty uhhh you are lol

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

🤣🤣🤣

[humbeliving23]

@Brainsbeforebeauty over a year ago dude? you can't do this man

[Freyke]

Because they are Not Men. That's why this site was made, to understand eachother better.

[TheFlak38]

You said it yourself. Women care only about what they want. They don't give a shit about men or others in general.

[Sour-rose]

Same reason men have the same thoughts about women.

Different minds, different views. Still can't put the time in to wonder why men are the way they are. We just know that they are what they are

[KrakenAttackin]

@sour-rose. Again, most regular men are very simple and ask very little of a woman. Left to put own, men lead extremely simple lives. Women are the ones who wildly complicate things.

[Sour-rose]

Uh huh :)

[Anonymous]

Why are men so totally clueless about women? Seriously, it’s that easy women can interpret each other correctly without saying a word. How can it be so hard? 😉

[KrakenAttackin]

Anon... that's bullshit and you know it.

[Opinion Owner]

I know what you’re saying is BS.

[Opinion Owner]

Psychological research: males and females are more alike than they are different. I think science may just have a little more credit than this post. 😂

[KrakenAttackin]

Asker... So explain why so many women can't get/keep a man?

[Opinion Owner]

So many? I see more of my friends happily married than single now. Especially at your age. People learn to get along better and become wiser. If it’s you that’s struggling I’d ask yourself (if you genuinely want to know and not just blame the rest of the world, we all have to take responsibility for ourselves st doe point of we want success).

[OddBeMe]

Because they don't have to have a clue. We're the puppies.

[Twalli]

Women are complicated and want to think men are

[KrakenAttackin]

@Twalli. That is as good an explanation as any.

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/jR0XHTBSmGs

...

[Reaper1985]

modern feminism is the great lie those in power teach young children. using schools, media and other sources to break up the traditional family unit. which causes more single parent households and/or adults to not have children. males and females aren't meant to be equals their meant to be compatible and work together.

[slatyb]

The same reason men are so clueless about women.

[MCheetah]

Everyone seems to be clueless about everyone.

[Anonymous]

Guys prove they are the clueless ones every day on here. It would be funny if it wasn't so damn embarrassing to read.

[Subarugirl]

Oh they aren't clueless they just don't want to put in the effort

[Whatever2929292]

I love how you generalize ALL men. You're misandrist and hate men. That is why men don't want you. Most men don't want a woman who dislikes or has a problem with men.

The same as why women don't want a man who has a problem with women.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl again generalizing all men again.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 actually we are talking about the clueless men on this site, not all men. Just the clueless ones.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 next time try reading the whole thing before getting triggered… and personally, I don’t care about what men in general want from me. I don’t exist to please all men.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I did read what you said and I am not triggered and if you read my last reply I said I agreed with you... That I was the same way. Maybe misunderstood a little but maybe you should read MY reply's again... Before you get triggered

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I never said that you did exist to please all men. I just got done saying people who think like that are pathetic to not even be with someone but think all women... or all men should be the same because they are frustrated and can't find someone

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you also did at least seemingly imply that ALL men are wanting sex though... Which is sexist to me

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 if you read back through this thread, you never said that you agree, you said “I love how you generalize ALL men. You're misandrist and hate men. That is why men don't want you. Most men don't want a woman who dislikes or has a problem with men. “

I never said all men want sex but I think it’s more than safe to assume that unless you’re asexual, you want to have sex….

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl lol... so do women. Maybe more demisexual. See there you go with the baseless assumptions saying that someone is asexual... No some people are waiting until marriage. There is more important things in a relationship OTHER then sex. And relationships that are not all about sex tend to last longer...

But see. You just want to make assumptions like that

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl do all women want to have sex? So if I go up to some random woman and she does not want sex with me... oh she just must be asexual... LOL!!! You are a creep. You have a husband anyways. You should not be worried about pleasing any other man but your husband

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl another thing that you say is that... men just don't want to put in the effort... Well... Again you're generalizing, So you are...

You have a problem with men. There are women out there too who just want to have sex. But do I think all women are? No.

I am not so narcissistic though I think anyone who does not want to have sex with me must be A or gay... Not every guy out there is looking for sex. The same as not every woman is.

Some people want something more. They tend to stay together longer and are MUCH happier...

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 First of all, Im not assuming anything other than most people want to have sex. I didn't assume that anyone was asexual, I was referring to people who are asexual. I never said that relationships are all about sex... you are flying off the handle with all of your assumptions.

[Subarugirl]

And I said they aren't clueless, I never said all men. Jesus Christ, they as in the so called "clueless ones". That's is a very specific subset.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 I never said EVERY guy is out there looking for sex... Take your time to really read before replying because you are making up issues that aren't there and out of things I never said.

[Subarugirl]

I wasn't talking about you specifically, I was talking about the general you, as in everyone...…

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl yea in general... EXACTLY

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I bet you have cheated on your husband! You want me to make assumptions lets just go there! I will make assumptions of you want me too

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl there are plenty of people out there who don't just want sex

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 yes... a generalization is defined as the broad idea or statement that is applied to the things or groups of people. It prevents the lengthy details of some topic. A generalized statement is formed from several examples or facts and what they have in common.

Generalization is also an essential component of the wider scientific process. In an ideal world, to test a hypothesis, you would sample an entire population. It is what allows researchers to take what they have learnt on a small scale and relate it more broadly to the bigger picture.

So yes... in general, unless you (plural) are asexual or another minority are going to want to have sex at some point during your adult life, because in general when a human reaches adulthood they have a sex drive like just about every other mammal. So unless you (aka anyone) falls into a small minority of adults who do not have a sex drive, saying that most people want to have sex is accurate and safe generalization to make.
Do you disagree?

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 calm down dude, I am not making assumptions about you... no need to get so worked up

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl yea I do once I get married. But I am saying sleeping around isn't normal. You're the one making assumptions and if you want to claim I am making assumptions... then I will make them

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl most people if someone accused them of cheating would rebut it immediately. I feel bad for him and I feel bad for any of your children if you have them

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl why don't you just stick to yourself. Alright? You aren't a psychic and don't know how people think and neither do I.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl in a idea people would not be whores and manwhores. Do you know what those people are?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl there is a diffrence in not having any sex drive even after being married and being a WHORE or a MAN WHORE

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl and not all men are MAN WHORES. But some are.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl also lady I have forgotten more about psychology and human behavior and even animal behavior then you have ever known

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 you mean the assumption that the majority of adult humans have a sex drive? That's not an assumption that is fact.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 I don't waste my time rebutting baseless and blatantly false accusations form random boys online lol

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 No need to get so defensive, I wasn't referring to you or making assumptions about you, so no need to get all worked up over it. You are kind of all over the place crating issues that don't exist. So I will reiterate..

In general, unless a person is asexual or another minority they are going to want to have sex at some point during your adult life, because in general when a human reaches adulthood they have a sex drive like just about every other mammal. So unless a person falls into a small minority of adults who do not have a sex drive, saying that most people want to have sex is accurate and safe generalization to make.
Wouldn't you agree?

At this point you are trying to argue biology...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I told you. You want to say I am making assumptions I can make them... Pretty easily based off of other things that you have said...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I am not arguing with biology. Yea most people want to have sex at some point after being married. Normal people DO NOT CHEAT!!! Which I still think you have but that is besides the point.

You're right we have what is called the flesh... Kind of our primal instincts and then we walk in the spirt.

I am talking about people who sleep around all the time. I don't know your sex life nor do I care. But people who just sleep around aren't doing it the way they are supposed to. There are things like STD's, STI's, pregnancy, and developing emotional and spiritual attachments to people and absolutely destroying themselves physically, mentally, emotionally, socially, spiritually, and in many other ways.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I am not even trying to be judgmental. What I am tired of though is people trying to normalize degeneracy. There is something called demisexual you should look it up. That is what should be NORMAL!!!

There is a difference between romance and sexuality. Kind of like empathy and sympathy might at times go together like bread and butter... But you can have one without the other. You can have bread without the butter or vice versa...

Starting to make sense to you? Many things are genetic memory. Just because other people have done stuff does not mean we should to it.

As well as minority groups again not to get into other people's sex lives.

But if I was to make assumptions you probably if you have cheated have already made justifications to why it was okay for you to do it.

Which is why we are getting worse as a society. People are also trying to make pedophilia normal as well... You see where we fall into? Drag queen and drag king story hour for kids.

I would take being with a asexual woman then a woman who sleeps around any day and honestly to tell you the truth I think a lot of women would prefer a virgin over a guy who is just sleeping around. Not all women the women without any sense of values, morals, ethics, standards, etc. But you get my point.

Why we have abortion now. Why infanticide and genocide is normal now and totally fine.

We humans are not just... Regular animals. We have a spirt and a soul. Yea animals might have a spirt.

But see people compare us to wolves or monkeys... But not all animals are the same. See take the bird argument if we were like birds. It would be the men who dress all pretty and not the women... But see how animals are all different.

We humans are made for intimate and personal relations with ONE person unless the person dies or cheats or does something that would result in a divorce.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl yea most people want to have sex. The proper way is after marriage. Sex is also not just for child bearing reasons... Otherwise there would not be "kinks" and stuff like that or oral or anal sex...

You get my point. As well as other minority groups as you say. But see that is just the devil many times making perversions and stuff like that as well.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I understand we have a FLESH. Sort of our more primal instincts. To sleep around. To take things form other people. To dominate others... The list goes on.

We don't live in caveman days... We should live in a civilized society with MORALS... I am not saying we should be "traditional"... Those change I am not for all the modern things either. We all have different wants and needs... So as you said even if you DID change to fit the standards for ALL men... That would never happen.

The same as I could not change to fit ALL women since... Not every woman is the same.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl and I am not judging people who have committed sins like lust, fornication, adulatory, sodomy, etc. Even people who have done worse things then that...

But you see when we let degeneracy take over. People start getting into pedophilia. People get into animals and worse and worse stuff. Incest. All things people have tried to make... NORMAL!!! WHICH NONE OF THAT EVER WILL BE IT IS DISGUSTIG.

When we chip away at our morals and values. When we give into Satan and Lucifer. Satan and Lucifer the degenerate butt buddies

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl if you just think that... Sex is only for child bearing reasons. Explain kinks and fetishes' to me then...

Animals don't have kinks or fetishes'... Because it is made for a husband and a wife. So we can't just be like other animals. Just sleeping around with whoever...

Why do people demand abortion... Why do people get serialized... Among other things. Not that I agree with abortion... What is the need for it? Why condoms.

But again most people don't want children out of wedlock.

Have you ever looked at eagles and many other animals who also have one partner. If you look at difference species... THEY ARE ALL DIFFRENT and very different from humans...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl but see some people don't have morals. Some people project their own degeneracy onto everyone else as you do.

So... You don't want a real bond with someone. All you care about is sex. You can't go on a date and have a good conversation. You can't get each other gifts even if it isn't expensive but small things and inside jokes and making things.

You can't find a hobby you enjoy with each other.

You can't just go to a movie. Or go ride go karts and simply have a good time. Watch a movie or TV show or Netflex or some streaming thing.

You can't just snuggle or cuddle. Or kiss. Or shall I go on? Can't have tickle fights. And things like that that are fun.

Nope... All it is is sex to you. Which I feel bad for you and your cheated on husband and your bastard children who you don't even really know who the father is

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl and I am not even trying to judge you... Like. I am not perfect myself. But what I get tired of is people trying to make things normal and excuse their actions.

I have had people open up to me and go into all kinds of details and I don't judge them I know they feel bad for some of the stuff that they have done. They own up to it. They repent to God and trust me enough to tell me stuff? I love them and I will never share anything they have ever told me.

But I won't sit and argue with a person who can't or refuses to see the error of their own way.

If you at least at some point or even currently feel guilty when you have sex with men you aren't married to... When you lust and do things to yourself. When you watch porn... The list goes on and on. You are feeling gulity knowing it is wrong.

When you feel guilty after having a abortion. I am not accusing you of those things but giving examples. But there comes a time when you're turned over to a reprobate mind and don't care anymore.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I mean if you people want to be like animals. Take your asses into the middle of the woods so civilized society does not have to deal with you people anymore!

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 wow this topic seems to make you react super emotionally. Why don't you take a moment to calm down so that you can think logically instead of so emotionally and then we can talk.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl LOL... I have given you a lot of information. I am sure half of it has gone over your head but that is not my problem...

I think if anything you're the emotional one and you're just projecting it onto me. Based off of your short responses.

I mean... See this is what people do when they know they are wrong or have nothing else to say. They jump to things like this.

What have I said that was incorrect? I don't care what those gay faggot but buddies Satan and Lucifer tell you. God created a perfect marriage and Satan and Lucifer created Sodom and Gomorrah

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I have used logic. I have explained things in great detail for you. I have broken it down... Emotions are a normal human thing as well... Did you know that?

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 actually what you have done is veered waayy off topic...

[Subarugirl]

I really could care less about you personal morals on human sexuality

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you want to talk about biology. I have spoken on the flesh and the spirt.

I have also asked the question. You say oh well biology... We have it in us to procreate... Then explain kinks and fettishes that have nothing to do with making children. Why do people use birth control measures? DINK!

[Subarugirl]

I don't believe you god exists.

[Subarugirl]

your god created your satan so...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you really can't reason with someone whose unreasonable though... Which you're unreasonable. I think you're getting really angry with me and just giving one line responses not relating to anything I said... You certainly aren't invalidating it you just want to respond after me to try and get the last word as long as you can say something.

Since... Every time you bring "facts" I can successfully rebut it all

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I got into other topics to back up my points. Tell me what was off topic?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you tell me I am wrong and I am off topic... Tell me where I am off topic? What is wrong with having morals? Do you not think it is wrong to cheat on your husband? Since you talk about other guys in the PRESENT tense not the past tense

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you see how good I am? You might as well tell the truth. You might as well explain why you get guilty feelings the first time you have sex. Watch porn. Masturbate?

You don't feel guilty when you... watch a TV show. The first time you try a new food. The first time you try a new sport... So why does that stuff make you feel guilty?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you understand that this is not my first rodeo with people like you and it is also predictable what you're going to say. So many times I can rebut a point before you even make it. I am not always right but I can tell other things you think...

Like... How did I know you cheated on your husband? So you think when I say something like NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE THAT... That I might be right?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl Right there is your problem. Alright? I doubt you have even read the Bible. But even most secular people and people of other religions, atheists, agnostics, etc. Even they have a moral code... Even they have ethics. Even they have values in one sense or another.

Why don't you?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl what kind of piece of shit cheats on her husband and defends it and halfway brags about it online?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl gosh you're so creepy too.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl one more thing for now... Even most atheists think people who cheat on their spouses are pieces of shit. They might think fornication is fine... But they don't defend that... Now do they? Well some might but you get my point.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 How am I unreasonable? Because I don't believe in your god?

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 what exactly do you mean by talking about other guys in present tense?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl but that is the only thing you say... I mean I am right about most of what I said. Right? Am I or am I not? And how?

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 I've never cheated on my husband so you are either made a bad assumption or were misinformed.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you know the answer if you cheated on your husband or if I am wrong about that... You know that answer. So... you can try and play games and try and ask me a bunch of questions.

But I mean you don't have to tell me but you can say yea you did or no you did not. But tell the truth.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl well then good for you. If you would have said that before I would have stopped with it. As I said it was a ASSUMPTION. I told you if you wanted me to make assumptions I would to show you what a assumption is.

[Subarugirl]

did you are all over the place. Ask a clear concise question and I will answer it... unlike you who keeps trying to dodge questions left and right...…. you're like "im not judging you" then start making judgements...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you have made no points you just keep repeating yourself. You just are trying to get me caught up in circular logic but if you go back and read what I said maybe you would catch on.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 I made a generalized assumption about the general population based off of science... you were making false accusations not assumptions. Do you need me to explain the difference to you because you obviously think that making and assumption and making a false accusation are synonymous.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl what science? I just rebutted that. Just since a lot of people do something does not make it right. You also just assume that when you see a man... oh he just wants sex... That is not only sexist but kind of creepy as well.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl Please explain the difference...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I told you a LOT of other things as well.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 I made my original point hours ago, it's not my fault that you have a problem reading it. You're the one veering off and trying to twist this into some sort of debate about morality and religion which I refuse to do... I was raised in the church and read the Christian bible cover to cover several times. If you claim to be Christian... then you are a sorry excuse for one because last I checked you were called to live as Christ did and he told you not to be a judgmental asshole and to love your neighbors and enemies... I don't see a Christian. I see a boy, with a moral superiority complex, trying desperately to some how make me look bad because, I said something that you didn't like and it hurt your feelings.

Grow up, and go read your bible or something because it would appear you aren't very familiar with it's teachings...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I read all the garbage that you have posted.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl see now you're the one making assumptions now that you have no idea about. I gave you information... A lot of it too. On sex. On many other things.

About your assumptions. You know that ALL men are different? All women are too? Do I need to break that down for you?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I told you I am not judgmental and I myself am not perfect. The difference is that I know right from wrong and repent of the things I do wrong and try not to do them.

But with someone like you it is like talking to a brick wall. But I respond since people like you lead people to HELL.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 my point is that in general, unless a person is asexual or another minority are going to want to have sex at some point during your adult life, because in general when a human reaches adulthood they have a sex drive like just about every other mammal. So unless you that person falls into a small minority of adults who do not have a sex drive, saying that most people want to have sex is a biological fact.
Do you disagree?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl I am guessing you lived in sin and got turned over to a reprobate mind...

[Subarugirl]

I never once said that all men, only want sex... I have no idea where you got that from... Because I never once said that.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl then I tell you about the flesh and the spirt. Yea people want to get MARRIED!!! SEX AFTER MARRIAGE NEVER DID I SAY PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER HAVE SEX.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl can you go back and read where I answered this question earlier about walking in the flesh the primal desires... I gave you a answer even though you don't like it. I gave you it

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 Lol actually I decided that I didn't want to be brain washed by the church or have pastor/priest rape my kids...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you even admitted that you're making generalizations but won't tell me what science you are talking about... I have the science that I told you about. I told you that you can't compare humans to other animals since how different animals do things like that is NOT the same

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl there you go... So you think all pastors and persists are rapists because some of them are? Nobody said you had to leave them alone with them or even go to church

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you just think all pastors are rapists'? Are there some? Yea there is. Not most of them. and they are NOT real Christians.

That has NOTHING to do with the rest of the Bible

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 fuck man, can you even read? No wonder you struggle with following Jesus' teachings...
in general, unless a person is asexual or another minority are going to want to have sex at some point during your adult life, because in general when a human reaches adulthood they have a sex drive like just about every other mammal. So unless you that person falls into a small minority of adults who do not have a sex drive, saying that most people want to have sex is a biological fact.

I'm not talking about religious morality... im talking about biology.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl no no no... You just spouted off about pastors and priests raping chidren. Which they have no walk with God. You really just went there... You think all pastors are child predators?

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 I never said that... okay unless you are capable of having conversation with out trying to twist this into some religious debate about sexual morality and stop trying to twist what I am saying then this conversation is over because, I am not talking about religion I am talking about biology.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl are you just copy and pasting now? You are a broken record... Yea most people want to have sex... But what is normal is within marriage.

Have you ever heard of a STD before? Pregnancy outside marriage? A STI? Having emotional attachments?

Have you ever heard of morality? Even non-religious people have some sense of morality

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you just have this circular logic. We been over this... You just don't have good reading comprehension I have both read and responded to this question a million times now. You need new material.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 No I don't think that ALL pastors or priests are child predators, but apparently you haven't bothered to notice all the pastors in the news lately being charged with molesting and raping minors. Did you ever hear about the child rape and molestation scandal with the catholic church?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl and... Biology. What about it? I have said yea... There are things in OUR FLESH... I don't care if you believe it or not.

You talk about biology. You are like one of these vaccine supporters... you talk about "the science" but can't back any of it up.

Do you even know the first thing about biology?

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 Yes I am copying and pasting because I am not talking about morality or marriage I am talking about how most people have a desire to have sex...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl yea I have head of that stuff it is horrible... But those are not people who have a walk with God either. In fact the Bible teaches against that stuff.

But that seems to be your only reason from walking away form Christianity altogether. Which... I can't foce you to believe in God that is not even the issue anymore. But I am not just going to tell you what you want to hear either.

It bugged me originally that generalize all men. Then you wanted to start a scientific debate when in reality you just have a very narrow mind.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 More than you know about what it is to be a christan apparently...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl no the only thing you said was you thought most pastors were rapists... Which is why you left.. LOL. You aren't going to convert me either

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 Lol no my reason for leaving the church is because I refuse to serve a god that slaughters babies and tortures the innocent... Have you even read the old testament and things your god did to innocent children? taking them as spoils of war and then have the nerve to say those men weren't walking with god... your god impregnated a 14 year old girl and then killed her baby...

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 actually if you actually read what I wrote I said, "actually I decided that I didn't want to be brain washed by the church or have pastor/priest rape my kids... "

I never said ALL or MOST... Isn't lying considered a sin if you are a Christian?

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl do you support abortion? You also don't understand the Bible. But that is fine. Again you have been turned to a reporbate mind. The Bible also says suffer unto me little children.

Look I am not going to make a assumption if you don't support abortion then great. But if you do then...

Satan kills Chidden. Satan caused all this evil in the world. You don't know what you are talking about and have missed the Bible completely

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl there is a word called IMPLYING

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 and who created statin?…. Oh that’s right… your god.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl no... Lucifer is who created Satan... After he was kicked out of heaven for... Get this his own actions.

[Subarugirl]

You really should re read the Bible… But let me find this little snippet for you.

"Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses." (1 Samuel 15:3)

"Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse." (1 Peter 2:18)

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl a bunch of taken out of context verses.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl but to be honest. I am not worried about the teachings of Moses in the Old testimate. I am not worried about all the teachings of Paul. and all these other stuff.

Find the teachings of God as well as the red letters where Jesus is speaking

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl or the teachings of Peter. I think the WHOLE Bible IS important but you see what I'm saying

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl here is some more context

www.biblegateway.com/.../

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 no of course you’re not concerned with your god slaughtering a bunch of babies and instructing his people to makes slaves out of virgins…. I wonder what those slaves were used for.. but according to you, while you think the whole Bible is important you just don’t care about the parts you don’t want to care about…. That’s admirable…

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl That was MOSES.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl but you won't read anything in context.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 and who instructed Moses to do that...…

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl it's funny how you say you aren't getting into a religious debate... and then you do. lol. Which was not even really my goal but alright we can run with it.

[Subarugirl]

31 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people.”
3 So Moses said to the people, “Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites so that they may carry out the Lord’s vengeance on them. 4 Send into battle a thousand men from each of the tribes of Israel.” 5 So twelve thousand men armed for battle, a thousand from each tribe, were supplied from the clans of Israel. 6 Moses sent them into battle, a thousand from each tribe, along with Phinehas son of Eleazar, the priest, who took with him articles from the sanctuary and the trumpets for signaling.
7 They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho.
13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.
15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl you think you're going to convert me but you're not

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl still won't answer if you're for abortion or not... If you aren't great but if you are then you're for slaughtering babies for convenience since someone can't keep her legs closed

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl riddle me this... Why was God wanting to take vengeance?

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 dude I am not trying to convert you, you are as brainwashed as they get, so much so you don't even follow the teachings of your Jesus

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl even though you tell me how you're not getting into a religious debate. Still won't tell me if you support abortion which you very well might. Won't tell me the reason why God was taking vengeance on them...

You just spout such nonsense. And this time you're the one who got off topic anyways.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 I don't know why your mythical god does anything all I know is what I read in the bible... he tortured Job and killed off his family just to test him. He flooded the entire world and killed of all but one family... I wonder how many infants drowned when he did that...

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 There is literally a abortion ritual in the bible...… you're so against abortion that you turn a blind eye to all the babies he killed and that Levitical law that quite literally lays the ground work for an abortion ritual.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl because people were evil like they are now. But when revelation comes to pass. When you're cast into hell... You will figure things out then.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl so you're not for abortion. Alright. You're like talking to a brick wall. You won't talk about the teachings of Jesus just a bunch of taken out of context stuff.

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl even after you said you were not getting into it. See why I don't take what you say seriously? You aren't consistent and contradict yourself FREQUENTLY and that is only one example.

[Subarugirl]

@Whatever2929292 Okay well have fun... and have the day you deserve you are a waste of time

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl if anything you're the one wasting your life away. Trying to find meaning in this meaningless world...

[Whatever2929292]

@Subarugirl trying to fit in with the world. But whatever you say. LOL! I don't believe a word you say. You are just hateful bitter and nasty... Yet you project all those things onto me.

[KrakenAttackin]

Anon
. Seriously? Look at all the "he looked at me, what does that mean" questions from girls on GAG? So many of the pink questions are painfully clueless.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl @ @Whatever2929292.

You two need to get a room and have wicked hate sex.

[Whatever2929292]

oh fuck off you creep. She's married anyways and I am not into degenerates.

[Whatever2929292]

I will tell you though... I get tired of those questions

[Whatever2929292]

But for real. I ain't a degenerate low life piece of shit like you are! So no thanks!!!

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl "Oh they aren't clueless they just don't want to put in the effort".

Wait, what? Men do all the work in most relationships. Modern women just show up.

[Whatever2929292]

you aren't wrong but not all women do that to be fair. Plenty of women who do and plenty of men who do too. But not all of them.

[Whatever2929292]

She just has a problem with men

[Subarugirl]

You keep telling yourself that hon

[Whatever2929292]

how funny seems that she blocked me...

NOW ONTO YOU!!! I can tell you have a seething passion of hating women. I think if anything you two would make the best couple!!! You deserve each other!

[Tornado92]

Only the stupid racist white woman u dumb fuck !!!

Black woman r the best!!!

[Snsl153]

Why are men so totally clueless about women?

[LogicBomber]

men know women Way more than women know women it’s just that women will not admit to how they actually are and act

[Snsl153]

@LogicBomber Don't be ridiculous. That's not true at all, and you know it!

[LogicBomber]

Actually if you’ve been on this site any longer than a week you know that any time a female’s actions are pointed out the only response is shaming and silencing the male who did it women do not take responsibility for their actions

[Snsl153]

@LogicBomber I take responsibility for my own actions. I always have. It's a LIE that women don't do this, a lie invented by misogynists like you.

[LogicBomber]

Your personal stance does not change general standards.
Nowhere did I say 100% of women either.

[KrakenAttackin]

I don't believe most men are clueless about women. In any case men are much less clueless about women, than women are men. We are very familiar with irrational behavior, hypergamy, etc.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LogicBomber Exactly. Women have two main tools:. Sex and manipulation.

[Paul09]

Because women play games. Instead of saying what is on their mind. We are not mind readers. Communication! Have the melons to go up to men too. And speak!

[bluenboard]

who hurt you guys...

[LogicBomber]

@bluenboard No one. Your shaming tactic is noted. But it is irrelevant to the truth.

[KrakenAttackin]

@bluenboard "Who hurt you"? Ha ha ha. How original...😒

[es20490446e]

Those women are beaches. Look for better ones.

[Anonymous]

What Every Woman Should Know About Men - YouTube

[driven159]

For the same reason women think men are

[Anonymous]

Because women don’t like men.

[rollercalt]

no, we just don't like incels like you, big difference

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Really? I like men and I loved my husband... Stop generalizing all women

[Opinion Owner]

@rollercalt Oh no. Ouch. A stranger called me an incel. You all really need to get some better insults. It’s fucking pathetic. What’d you call guys before the word incel became your go-to? Virgins?

It’s no wonder people think that female comedians aren’t funny. You’re not. You have the creativity of a retarded land crab.

[Opinion Owner]

@Brainsbeforebeauty You like a man. One. Singular. So much in fact you married him. Congratulations by the way. I do mean that and hope you’re both very happy. But as I said, women don’t like men. Women like one man. All we ever hear about or read is how awful men and how undesirable their behavior from woman after woman. Is it really so unusual for us to believe what is said?

[rollercalt]

@Brainsbeforebeauty he's just mad that women won't look at him, let alone sleep with his pathetic incel ass. LOLOL

[Jamie05rhs]

@rollercalt Who hurt you?

[humbeliving23]

@Jamie05rhs the top 1% who nowhere near stay loyal she knew about it but chose to ignore it

[Jamie05rhs]

@humbeliving23 I honestly and truly believe that some girls are too stupid to understand what is going on. They are easily fooled and taken advantage of. But I blame the older women in their lives for teaching them to ignore the red flags and warning signs. (And I think the older women do it intentionally. Because they want all women to make the same mistakes they did and experience the same pain. That way they won't feel so alone and they won't feel like such a dumbass if there are others who did the same dumb things that they did.)