Why girls are so hard (give me an advice please!)?

[moodyone]

I'm very depressed. pretty sure it wouldn't happen if girls liked me i'm 27 yo male and still a virgin. more than that i've never been kissed. more than that not a single girl 've complement me in my entire life
Alcohol free, smoking free, drugs free, not 1/10 and not 10/10 either, don't hit girls, nice guy etc (kinda saint overall)
I think i could have sex with a classmate when i was 15 or so but i believed in "one girl - for the life" thing (the biggest regret of my life now)
At 18 yo a girl i liked dumped me so i cut this love thing off and truned to videogames.
Now, everytime i see a couples that are usually 20 yo or so i have strong feel of enviness. not a single girl likes me, cuz of that i have no motivation, cuz of that no girl likes me. asked mother for an advice and she said "don't worry, you just didn't met that girl". this is stupidiest thing that anybody could say - this only works for girls. also everybody says this advice on the internet but for some reasons there're a lot of messages of males who are in their 40s and 50s that are still virgins and literally suffering. recently heard a story how a man in his middle/high school years with buddies were playing with girls and sometimes grab their boobs and asses, which made me almost in tear cuz of enviness. all these stories of girls on this site losing virginity at 16,17 yo... wtf this happened to me? i believed at that age that i'll pick a girl and we will be together till the end. i tried to be the nicest boy to get such kind of girl (again smoking free, alcohol free etc)
now i dont understand a thing - a lot of videos on youtube say "invest in yourself, man's prime is in their 40s". like WTF? who the hell then walks with girl in schools, universities, all those 18-25 yo pairs walking on streets holding hands... i always dreamed about this kind of relationships but yeah, i'm in crap, while i'm tearing someone is chubbing female's boobs in a 100th time, when i try to get a girl i get denied

[Artemio_the_Grateful]

1) stop playing video games
2) girls want to fuck badboys and friend nice guys like you
3) girls who party and drink and smoke are the best in bed, the nice girls aren't and won't be nice in bed. The wild girls may be mean but the only want to have fun and videos games are more popular with guys for a reason. Guys are competitive. Girls are not. Got to a bar for pete sake and fuck and old gal if you have to. They have the most exp so they would understand if you are a virgin and can take the lead. But nobody wants to fuckyou, a soy boy. The difference is the bad boys have confidence and you don't. Girls will give the coochie away but only to guy who have balls to ask for it. You may get rejected more than once but that's only temporary.
4) you need a drink and too party. Go far away from where ever you live and just take a risk and go to a park and just ask a girl (s) for her number. Girls like assertiveness. Be mean and shallow to them. Don't call them a bitch though and say fine bitch or stupid hoe give me your number. You have to be smooth about it. And thats what confidence is. Just keep that going and don't be scared. Think about your next move always and plan thing out and solve shit yourself. Girls fly at guys like this. The only other type of guy that gets this pussy to is guys with money. Other than that. You dont need money. (Well some at least like if you work at mcdonalds you can get laid. As long as you have some and a private place to bang. You got this. In your car. Or in hers. I messed up once by pussing out when a girl tried to give me a ride home and told me she will suck my cock if i let her take me home. I said no cause i was tired and drunk and wanted my pizza and am not thirsty for girls. But imagine if i would have been more confident. I wouldn't have wussed out. I could have ate my pizza while getting head. Head a great night i probably would have fucked her to. But i said no and not because i was cool. Because i was not confident. Now i am. But that was the old me. Dont be like old me. Be like me now. The confident one.

[Graci_e]

Please don’t follow this advice 😭 this is not healthy

[Artemio_the_Grateful]

@Graci_e look gracy. I know its not healthy. But your a girl. And i don't think a girl understand how a 27 year old male virgin feels. For fuck sake 27 gracie. He needs the pus. The touch. Something. My man is dying over here and you telling him to take it slow. Before you know it he will suffer from ED by not following my advice. What would you recommend gracie?
Gracie: "uggHWWW uHwm.. Idanoo? Like mwayby take it slow. Be gentle.

No gracie. Its always the same shit.

Im telling this dude to Follow my advice and you can get the cooch flown at you like fly on shit. You might be a piece of shit for doing it. But guess what. 😈 .. Flies love shit. And there are girls who love shit men and will bang them. At least he can get laid. What are you offering? Nothing. Lead him on. Some ugly fatchick ( sorry, not sorry) that will take him. No he needs confidence. Yus. Also dm me

[Graci_e]

Okay as a girl, you obviously know nothing about girls. Don’t say you know more than me about my own gender - I’m a girl. And as a girl, this is bullshit advice.

This man is depressed. First of all, he needs to get to a better mental place. He needs to work on himself and get to a healthier, happier place. Advising him to get drunk, party and sleep with girls is NOT good for his mental health. It’s dangerous.

Stop spreading bullshit. This can actually hurt and harm people. Your advice is not good nor factual.

[Artemio_the_Grateful]

@Graci_e you just don't know how to have a good time. Actions speak louder than words. Or anything else you could type up as a reply. This man needs fun to heal himself. And experience life.

[Artemio_the_Grateful]

@Graci_e your 15 lol. Have you even gotten laid yet. Gtfo😂😂 bet you can't even drive yet.

[WonderBell99]

@Artemio_the_Grateful and you’re only 18. your advice is shit, dude. No offense

[Artemio_the_Grateful]

@WonderBell99 its practical and hard but it works

[Graci_e]

I can drive and why should a 16yr old (im actually 16) get laid? You sound very immature and very dumb.

[Honesttguy]

Check mystery method to understand how to be more attractive and value of men.
Check james marshal for direct daygame and self transformation.
Key is and will be to go out in public places everyday to get your brain feel its fine, and then practicing opening and talking and demonstrating valie without commin of as bragg. From there on some will feel attraction.

[Graci_e]

Honestly you can’t be that bad looking. And if you are, that’s fixable.

Go to the gym and join some training classes. Don’t just lift weights - that’s for dickheads (no offence), actually get fit and healthy. Tone up and put on some muscle. Exercise releases endorphins and endorphins make you happy.

Eat healthy. Get a wide range of nutrients. It’s 70% how you eat and 30% how you train. Of course you can cheat and have a bit junk here and there, but that shouldn’t be mainly how you eat.

Try a different hair cut. Talk to a barber, have a look on the internet and see what might suit you best. A good, trendy haircut can make the world of a difference.

Invest in some new clothes. Maybe get a sister or a friend who’s really good with fashion to come along with you and pick some outfits out.

Try some skincare. Get a good face cleanser and moisturiser. Cleanse your face twice a day (morning and night), or at least once a day. Moisturise after very cleanse.

Work on your confidence. Self confidence makes a world of a difference. You need to positively self talk, fake it till you make it if you have to.

Listen to mindset podcasts. This will get your brain ticking right and your confidence boosting.

Have a good attitude. Be kind and humble. Respect people.

You’ll get there. Everything will be okay. Just remember that you’re kind, smart and important. You’re loveable and you’re wanted. Put in a bit of work and effort and you’ll get there, I promise. You’ll be fine.

[CrazyGirl2]

More importantly, why are SO many Indian men well in there 20’s and are still virgins? Women aren’t difficult to figure out! We just want a good man, preferably one whose good looking and muscular (hey you guys have your preferences too! Big tits, curvy thighs ass just the way you like it) but also most women are looking for a man who can support her and her children if you DO get married. No woman wants a man who can’t even put food on the table.

[moodyone]

isn't it obvious - women reject them since they are sub 185 and not muscular

[CrazyGirl2]

But that seems crazy, if MOST of the guys in her society are below 185 punnds (which sounds good) and not muscular, then THAT is what they would be attracted to! It’s like here in the 1940’s and ‘50s, they preferred much more curvaceous women, but today Maryln Monroe would be considered a plus sized model!

[CrazyGirl2]

Yeah, I just finished reading your long story. Here in the states the average age for girls to lose their virginity is 17.5 and for boys it’s age 16.25. We are pretty easy to understand. We wanted to be treated with respect. We want someone who would protect us! Most women want a man who can provide for her and her children. A man who is kind, and funny. And yes one who is good looking.

[moodyone]

about 185 - i was talking in terms of height (not from us)

[CrazyGirl2]

I assume you mean 185cm? So you meant 6’1”! My answer stands, 6’1” is a decent height, but none of my boyfriends have been taller than 5’8” (172cm), so I guess your height theory goes right out of the window. I don’t know why YOU have difficulty getting a woman to date you, but just understand that it will happen to you eventually.!

[moodyone]

Ok crazy girl since you are 19 yo I will tell you my theory - the girls under 20 still are in and about THE love. Those who are over seek for something: money, power, looks etc. With time the borderline goes lower so at 45 woman is ok to date an ordinary man that is 1) a male 2) have a job
Also you are lucky to have such life (multiple boyfriends at 19 yo)

[CrazyGirl2]

Okay, maybe I guess it’s kinda true that as women get older we get so sick of all the bullshit from the super-hot guys, and we are more likely to date much less attractive men, who, are kind and respectful, and just love use for who we are inside and not because of how we look. But money? Power? Sweetie my first year working as a clinical psychologist will earn me close to 100k dollars, and every year after that. So even if I didn’t get my trust fund that’s worth millions on my 25th birthday! Why would I “NEED” a man with money or power? So tell me again how I am so shallow that the only reason I would want to be with a man was because of HIS money or HIS power! Maybe explain why you decided (AFTER I was nice, sweet, and polite to you, and genuinely wished you luck, and gave you positive encouragement) why you decided to change the subject to what’s wrong with me and why I am so shallow? And why, even though I’ll have almost 20 million just waiting for me to turn 25yrs, not no mention the amt I’ll get every month for life, why I need a man with money or power? My god you are just SO arrogant, to actually believe that you think that you know someone you have never met, and never even spoken to… all you REALLY know about me is 1) that I am currently 19y/o, and 2) that I was born with a vagina! So PLEASE… do NOT pretend to think you know me! You don’t! Also, the only reason why I have had TWO boyfriends, is because after a year of being together, my first boyfriend made the decision to cheat on me! So please, tell me again, how lucky I am, to have had more than one boyfriend? Wouldn’t it be MORE lucky to simply find the man of my dreams the FIRST time around rather than face the pain of being betrayed by the first one, or the second one applying to a college that’s more than 3000 miles away from where I am going to college, which ending THAT relationship too? Because I don’t feel very lucky to be betrayed by two different guys in two very different ways! Grow up!

[moodyone]

not sure what's this rant is all about since i said nothing bad towards you. it's my theory only, doesn't have to be a rule
you had sex with 2 guys by the age of 19. i have none by the age of 27. so, who's lucky?
there're not that many people who go with their first partner for the rest of the life, so your situation is kinda common

[shaysh87]

ok so you can complain all you want but I can immediately tell you why you don't have a girlfriend at your age.

1. You likely aren't very attractive. As much as people hate to say this, but looks matter. If you aren't interested in asking fat 40 yr old women on a date, do not expect anyone to pay attention to an unattractive guy. Ask people about what you can do to get a bit more attractive.

2. You don't have much of a social life. Nobody cares how amazing you are , if no girls know you're amazing. Get yourself out there to clubs, etc to meet other people. Hobbies clubs are the easiest to make friends.

3. Get yourself out of the house. Stop surfing the net, isolating yourself by playing video games, go out with your guy friends , talk to your neighbors / community, play board games with your classmates, do not avoid women.

[shaysh87]

you also likely do not have social skills. thats why women reject you.

[Artemio_the_Grateful]

Damn sasha. You nailed it.

[monkeynutts]

I would find a sex worker if you are not religious, if you are get into the gym train hard, and in six months get some trendy clothes that suit your personality. And go mingle. Depression is not good, you are the only one that can. Change that. With the sex worker you don't have to screw some are good at mentoring, you can sit on a couch for an hour and hug and talk, but unless you are interacting with women in a natural way. You ain't ever going to learn how.

[moodyone]

looks like a good advice. i did my best to be the guy that all girls miss about. if she would need a hug i would be there. if she would need the meds that she lacks i would drive them to her house etc. so far i saw no appreciation of my actions. like they only look for a guy that they imagined. probably cuz i'm not 190 cm tower
the gym for 6 months with no days off? interesting, probably will try
no, not religious at all. if there'd be any creature i think i'd get something for my holiness towards opposite sex. sad tho i have to pay to prostitute for what i imagined suppose to be a special moment in my life

[DWornock]

If you want a girl, find a big girl. Obviously, you have neither money nor above average looks. Without money or good looks, being nice and a good citizen, respectful of women has no value to women. You might get this woman.

If she is not acceptable then you must forgo women.

[Faith18letsgo]

I’d start doing stuff for yourself and meet women that way, do yoga, a cooking class, or some sort of art thing. You need to make your own happiness.

[Shamalien]

it’s a fucked world out here. in my opinion focus on career and yourself and women will flock. Many men don’t get real action until late 20s 30s, it’s just the way it is. Luckily, 30 yr old men snag 18 yr old chicks all the time so don’t fret

[moodyone]

then what about all the movies where pairs have barely any difference in age? i see such thing in real life. in my opinion in the eyes of any adequatte 18 yo girl 30 yo man is looking like a father. in my opinion 18 yo girls and still in dreams of THE love

[Shamalien]

Fuck the movies kid in real life young women crush on older dudes

[Anonymous]

If you want to be good in school you have to study the subjects you need. If you want to be good with girls you have to study that just as hard. There are a million books about it.

[DWornock]

Any book written by a women is a disaster for men unless they do the opposite of what the book recommends.

[Bob92220]

If you watch the "manosphere" Youtube videos (Better Bachelor, Alexander Grace, etc.) they suggest forgetting about women, because they are impossible to understand, and putting time and energy into your goals, hobbies, and career.

[Anonymous]

You need to be in the right place at the right time sometimes. It sucks, but that is life.

[Anonymous]

So you never had any girls interested in you in your entire life?

[moodyone]

i guess 2 girls were interested in school and 1 of them is the one in my story of 15 yo girl. i didn't liked any of them in terms of THE love. they were just like any other average girl so i thought that since i have no desire for them i'll leave them to the men that are into them (what a gentleman!). now they are both married, so i happy for them. one girl went into me (i guess) online. we talked a long time and at some point she even drop me a pic (i requested) of her boobs (didn't show the pic to anyone. i'm not a coward) but i didn't had any plans for her either (was not into her again)
aside of that, yea, i think nobody was interested in me

[Opinion Owner]

Where were you hearing about men in their 40s and 50s still virgins?

[moodyone]

find any video about being virgin at 25 and above on youtube and check the comment section

[Opinion Owner]

Damn, to each their own and I know it's not for everyone but I wonder why many guys don't go to a sex worker or escort or just pay for sex

[moodyone]

They believe Hollywood movies. You do your job and all the sudden your person meets you. Works for girls so they think it will work for them too
Also they may think that girls don't deserve such easy money "earning money for getting pleased? Hello no"

[D_Bone_Steak]

Time to do some gym maxing...

[moodyone]

i try but often skip it since see no results. also, damn i'm weak

[D_Bone_Steak]

A bench and adjustable dumbells are all you need to work out at home. It's about the price of a 1 year membership at a gym, but you'll have it at home... not dealing with the BS a public gym presents.

I got a home gym because I was stuck at home with kids. I was fat and now you'd think I'm damn fitness model. My sexual market value with the ladies went through the roof. Before hotornot removed its rating system, I was a 9.5 when I was a lot lower before.. like 5. Of course, I went through some gnarly diet changes as well, but the at-home thing made it available to be a lot more consistent. I didn't feel stupid for timing my rest with a timer and cataloging my work done by myself without people around. That allowed me to closely follow progress by the weight progression of what I lift with specific reps and progressive overload in weights... and not by a scale or a mirror.

Of course, people start to notice... my frog avatar here is because I kept getting hit on. ... and the sad truth is it's mostly fat chicks that do the wolf-whistling... and gays. But you got to take the good with the bad I guess... it's annoying though.

[AssholeNumberOne]

Poor you. Yeah, that's tough shit bro