Do you agree or disagree with the statement below?

[KrakenAttackin]

"The thing women don't realize is that most men settle as well. But the difference between men and women is we don't punish women for not being our first choice".

AGREE.

DISAGREE.

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So far the numbers pretty strongly "agree".

[D_Bone_Steak]

I agree... women will just torture a guy for not being what she really wants. She'll let herself "settle" for that guy but badger the shit out of herself and him for her own fucking choice. I've seen it too many times to disagree... I believe the term is called "alpha widowed." (Google it if I sound stupid to you) Once they've been with dream man that obviously dropped her like a bad habit for something better... she continues the fantasy of thinking she deserved dream man and tries to basically force the current man that is willing to settle down with her to be the man that dropped her like a bad habit. If he doesn't or can't make that change then other men appear on the back burner that will also drop her like a bad habit or never live up to the fantasy that dream man was, even though dream man wants nothing to do with trash like her anymore.

[KrakenAttackin]

@D_Bone_Steak. THIS^^^

[HighValue]

If the man is a good man, he almost certainly settled if he is in a relationship because even the good women often don't even come close to bringing as much to a relationship as a good man does.

[Lliam]

I never looked at it that way. I never settled except in the sense that nobody is perfect, not even me. I can accept that. .

So I was totally satisfied with my early girlfriends even though I didn't think of marrying them because I didn't want to get married back then. They were pretty and sexy and most of them were really good people. It was an honor and a delight to be their choice.

When I met my (future) wife we really clicked. After we got married we learned everything there is to know about each other. And guess what? Neither of us is perfect. But we're a good match. We share common interests and values. And most of all, we trust each other completely.

Could I have done better? I don't even think about that. She's great. We have so much fun. And, with her, I look forward to growing old together.

It's one thing to get into relationships that don't work out. All you have to do is move on and keep searching. But if you feel like you "settled" on your spouse, you don't have good sense. You should have been more discerning. You should check your own character and values.

[Anonymous]

I'll go a step further. Not only will women not only punish you for not being her first choice. She'll punish you for every bad relationship she's ever had. Women think guys won't date women with long dating histories because we're turned off by other guys before us. OK, that may have SOME validity. But really that can be looked passed if mentally and psychologically she was the same person before all those guys. But she's not! Women CAN'T be. Women are biologically designed to bond to men (mainly for raising children. In evolutionary terms when it takes 18 years. For a child to reach full maturity you need a man around for that long). So women are biologically designed for this. And PUA's know this! This is why slimeball guys know all they need to do is trigger that bonding instinct in women. Then they can run roughshod over her. Borrow money, cheat on her, verbally abuse her. Because biologically she can't quit him. After this woman finally wisest up and leaves this guy you'd hope she learned from her mistake. Some do, but most don't and they repeat the same bad choice. Eventually they're UNABLE to bond with any guy. That's not the current guys fault. But she'll blame him all the same. Most guy with any experience knows to avoid women with a history of too many partners for this reason.

[MCheetah]

Mostly agree.

I'd really say most men DON'T settle. They just have three to four things they truly want in a woman:

- Don't be a b*tch/feminist.
- Don't be disloyal/a whore.
- Look halfway decent/attractive.
- (Optional for MANY MEN) Know how to cook.

And yeah, I know I wrote a MyTake about this, but those are largely optional. What WOMEN REQUIRE in a man, though? Well, I wrote a MyTake about that, too! Even the lesbians have a shopping list!

[letuswaltzforthedead]

Disagree, I think men settle more WILLINGLY than women. I think that's why women complain more than men in general and not just because they were forced to. I've seen more happy men with ugly wives (who could've gone for better) than beautiful women with poor husbands in general.

[KrakenAttackin]

@letuswaltzforthedead. So you actually agree. Also how are these Goddesses of yours being forced to settle? Perhaps they rode the cock carousel until the wall hit and now they are forced to find a simp to pay for their mistakes? This I would agree with.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

Not necessarily, sometimes it's just harder to find guys who they like and other women rather not be a slut and wait.

[KrakenAttackin]

@letuswaltzforthedead. I think you need to reread the original statement above.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

Which statement? Your comment or your post? And why?

[LazerBean]

If someone settles, regardless of what their gender is, then that's their own fault and they have no right to bitch about it.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LazerBean. So you agree.

[LazerBean]

I wouldn't really know. All the guys that I know well enough to know whether or not they settled did not settle, and half of them married someone well above them. But at the same time I know their wives did not settle either, they all genuinely seem to like eachother. But that may not be the case for men in general, I just tend to be very picky with who I closely associate with.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LazerBean "Married well above then", that's quite a statement about the women's choosing and the quality of men.

[LazerBean]

Most of them are very good men, their only downfall being that they are still a bit childish by my own standards, at least compared to the women they married. But all of them are by far higher quality men than any on Gag, and I would say far above most men in general.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LazerBean So by that statement the women must be Goddesses?

[LazerBean]

They nearly are. They are some of the most disciplined, accomplished, even tempered women of their age that I know.

[LazerBean]

And I do not say that about many women at all.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LazerBean. You ladies do think very highly of yourselves. However, if these women married below themselves, doesn't that make them foolish?

[LazerBean]

Does it? Is your own stance not that most people either settled for someone below them or had unattainably high standards in the first place? Because that would make most people foolish. Which would make these women no more foolish than the average person.

Yet at the same time once you reach a certain level of quality, realistically their chances of finding anyone better than the men they chose to marry are nearly non-existent. I would say marrying someone you genuinely love, is your equal in morals and general quality of human being, and who is compatible with you is much less foolish than waiting around for someone who easily either does not exist or will never cross paths with you.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LazerBean. Ah, the problem of being a goddess, so few men can begin to rise to your pedestal, like Icarus flying toward the sun. Such a problem you ladies have, how do you bear it?

[LazerBean]

I found an equal, and those girls are happy with 99% of an equal. So very easily.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LazerBean. Doesn't sound like it. From your previous posts you make it seem as though the men should be oh-so-grateful to have found these heavenly goddesses.

[LazerBean]

Everyone should be grateful when they find a good partner. Most people never do.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LazerBean. You have seriously back tracked from your first post.

[LazerBean]

How so?

[Justneedtokno]

I feel like I’m a small we do feel like a guy second choice. In my experience I was reminded how much was not the other girl

[KrakenAttackin]

@Justneedtokno. If you chase Chad's you will always feel this way.

[Justneedtokno]

Who is Chad? lol

[Justneedtokno]

The guys made with Stephen and Andy we were with each other, but then wasn’t with each other so he was treating me as a friend but still trying to screw around. It was horrible situation. I’m out of it now but still mentally and lingering thoughts at this point I don’t trust.

[OlderAndWiser]

This is not a universal truth but I have seen that manifest itself more than once!

[Filthy_Immigrant]

I agree though at the same time I'm with Chris Rock when he said men dont settle down, they surrender

[Likes2drive]

Yeah I mostly agree

[msc545]

Totally true.

[Jamie05rhs]

The statement is kind of vague.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Jamie05rhs. So feel free to clarify it here.

[Jamie05rhs]

@KrakenAttackin I mean I didn't really understand the question, tbh.

[LimitedBenefits101]

Spot on.