Men harbor several emotions due to them not being received well. Which makes for a cluster of emotions for an unexpected women later. You can cry fellas đȘđ
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+1 ySome do, but most are used to men hiding our full emotional range, so they set their expectations accordingly.
Girls I've dated seemed initially taken aback upon discovering I have deep and complex emotions to rival their own, but once it clicked that "ohhh, Tom's not one of these guys who acts macho to cover his true feelings", their guards would come down and they'd go on to validate what I'm feeling and be nurturing over it.
Of course it's unattractive for a guy to just have no composure at all and just be breaking down into hysterical sobs at every tiny thing. There's an extreme to be avoided here, as in all things.
But if you just ride out her initial reluctance to engage with your vulnerable side, in most cases any reasonable girl would realise what's actually happening and will engage accordingly.
Women have contradictory desires in some sense, it's true, they may yet lust for the stoic conqueror who cannot be emotionally knocked off balance. But you can still turn up in her day to day life as the strong, vital, self-composed man she desires... while carving out quieter moments with her to show a more tender underbelly. For the hard outer there must be an equivalent soft inner, for the outwards action to take on the world, there must be an inwards introspection to take on your own spirit, and all its wounded and fallible parts that rarely see light of day.
You don't want a woman to be attracted to you by only a single metric like stoicism or strength, that makes you too easy to know, too easy to see through, too easy to contend with. If you show her that there are multitudes of layers within yourself, she will be attracted to the complexity those layers represent -- even if some layers produce sour or bitter notes when peeled back in isolation. It's better to be layered and complex -- with a tender truthful aspect to your constitution --than to be a one-dimensional Flanderised version of one specific component of the masculine archetype.
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+1 yEvery woman is different, so itâs not going to be all cases.
But, I think itâs a subconscious versus conscious thing.
Consciously, everyone agrees that showing emotions should be accepted because itâs part of being human and itâs natural.
Who has the right to tell someone to stop doing something when NOT doing that thing is going to be detrimental to their mental or physical health?
So consciously, emotions are welcomed and accepted.
But subconsciouslyâŠ
Our subconscious minds associate crying or emotional volatility as weakness.
Weakness is not attractive to most women and weakness is not something that earns the respect of men.
So men and women can say one thing, but subconsciously feel something different.
Are men then just screwed?
Not quite.
If they want to maintain their SUBCONSCIOUS attractiveness to women, they will just either need to learn how to process their emotions on their own or find an emotional outlet among a male support network.114 Reply- +1 y
Iâve reached the point where Iâm genuinely calm and stoic and warm at all times. And that has been really attractive to women. But to reach that point on a personal growth standpoint, it took years of inner work and fixing my mental health.
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So in other words men have the learn to hide emotions like sadness in order to appease women? Bc women express this emotion often & are not labeled weak.. unless as men you think we label all women weak by default which isn't true. I feel hiding your emotions by not expressing them accurately causes more problems later in the relationship especially for the man mentally. Crying is actually healthy by scientific standards so being calm at a funeral wouldn't be beneficial for no one. I understand what your saying. But feel it's a big risk
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Iâd argue that anger and not being able to deal with your anger in a healthy way is a bigger indicator of volatility and weakness. It takes strength to process and communicate your emotions in a healthy way. But any toddler can scream, hit and throw things when they get angry
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Lol except women are labeled as weaker then men in general.
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I believe that gender doesnât determine strength or weakness. There are plenty of women that are more mentally and emotionally strong than men.
But, I believe thereâs a subconscious mechanism that causes women to view crying men as less attractive, even though it is healthy to cry.
Grieving and crying is healthy and those emotions are important to process. Itâs just that processing those emotions in front of women can have a negative effect on romantic/sexual attraction.
Thatâs just one factor of many though. Many factors play into attraction and some are prioritized more than others, depending on the individual. Like for example, there are woman who prioritize intelligence much more than athleticism. Even though both intelligence and athleticism are attractive traits.
Iâm just saying that a subconsciously, men that cry less are perceived as strong. And that is attractive.
Similar to a man that is taller than a woman is generally seen as more attractive than a man that is shorter than a woman.
But height isnât everything, so there are many other factors at play. - +1 y
Well itâs great that you believe that but that isnât the general stigma
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@Subarugirl I agree. A grown man or woman throwing temper tantrums like a child is not attractive to anyone. Someone who has a good reign over their emotions, both male and female, is something thatâs attractive.
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Yeah, unfortunately, the general stigma is that women are weaker by default and men are stronger by default.
But really, that only applies to raw physical strength. (Hence we have male vs female Olympic events.)
As for mental and emotional strength though, that is entirely up to the individual, regardless of gender. On the mental/emotional side of things, itâs all about personal development and how much their inner self has matured. - +1 y
I donât disagree, thatâs just not the stigma
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@Subarugirl How would you describe what the stigma is in your words?
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In general society views and has labeled women as the weaker sex.
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@Subarugirl that's bc they are. Women can't handle the truth more times than not. N if we are talking physically. That's just a fact.
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Oof.
I see the nuance now. I see woman as just as capable as men when it comes to mental or emotional strength.
Itâs just athleticism where men have a biological advantage backed by data like testosterone levels, muscle mass, and bone density. The averages are higher across the board and thatâs why we have male and female divisions in sports.
But in general, society views women as the weaker sex in ALL areas, not just athleticism. - +1 y
Exactly, that is my point
+1 yI do and I don't. Some men unfortunately need to learn the hard way especially when they don't take no for answer.
It's a cruel, shallow world out there and it's better for them to find out about it sooner than later. If I think a man is wrong I will tell them even if I know it's gonna hurt there feels I'd rather them be informed then plain stupid.
The type of guys I'm talking about are your typical narcissistic "nice guys" they think because they opened a door for you that they are some how now intitled my have my consent attention it's creepy to think like that especially when they stair and follow you and I'd rather shut it down as soon as then lead them on for the sake of there feels
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Plus men take honesty better than women
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You are right. Now. A woman Iâm serious with. If she canât be loving and nurturing to me and be a person I can trust and count on. Especially if Iâm that for her. Itâs one sided. AlsoâŠ. How could she ever be a decent mother if she isnât a nurturing woman?
But I do agree. There is legitimate and genuine nice guys who are nice because theyâre nice people. But youâre absolutely right about narcissistic and disingenuous nice guys. Who do things because they want sex or otherwise want to feel entitled to attention.
Itâs very nice of him to do something. But you didnât ask for it. I do feel women do this sort of thing as well sometimes too but. I totally get what youâre saying - +1 y
Honesty is your best policy. Especially because if youâre not into someone. Itâs better to be honest then string him along.
That way he can find someone who is right for him and so can you. Itâs honestly worse to act interested or give someone even a sliver of hope especially when you know it ainât gonna happen. - +1 y
@Bananas83 I don't assume that and you know that go start a fight with someone else. You knew exactly what I meant don't act stupid
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@Bananas83 oh go cry in a dark room with your Kleenex mate. Get over yourself big man
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@Bananas83 never said all you knew exactly what I meant your just taking it out on people because your probs a fat virgin who watches Andrew Tate and now thinks he's special
+1 yI do consider a manâs emotions. Because after all theyâre a human being.
In my past relationship, my boyfriend would not open up with me (not being vulnerable) and i respect him for that (his decision after all). After a while, i encouraged him thatâs itâs fine if he wants to open up or cry. Iâm more than happy if he did that.
And then, he did cry to me and talks about feelings (like actually feeling not about love) and iâm so happy that he finally let me see his other side. And nah i didnât take advantage / make fun of him / make him feels weak whenever he express his emotions.
So men out there, you should cry if itâs saddens you. 🖤00 Reply
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+1 yPlenty of women do!!! Women who are nurturing and sweet and who would make great mothers. Do value a manâs emotions and want to comfort her man especially if heâs going through a lot.
Now, thatâs not to say women are crazy about a man whose Whiny the same as men arenât typically crazy about women who are unnecessarily whiny either.
Sure, there are some women who have cold hearts and donât care for their significant other. My way of looking at it is if a woman canât nurture me and my emotions and understand me. How will she for my children? How am I not supposed to have emotions living with someone in my own house?
Those women arenât worth your time dude. Maybe for a man whose big tough and just doesnât cry. Maybe sheâs right for him. But normal people have emotions. Unless sheâs wanting someone whose a psychopath or sociopath or something. Which I assume she doesnât want that. Neither something of the likes of a narcissistic man or even a dark empath.
Especially if you as a man provide emotional support to a woman. If she doesnât give in return. Itâs a one sided relationship.
Those kind of women never find good men typically and when they do usually they end up breaking the relationship off at some point or another down the road.
You need to find a woman who fits your wants and needs and doesnât try to force someone into being your soul mate who isnât.
Maybe certain women (and maybe some are) arenât even bad women. Theyâre just not meant to be. Youâre not compatible.
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+1 yThis is hard. I am a strong but sensitive man. I have no problem expressing myself to anyone and that includes crying. However in my experience that never works out in my favor in the long run. Especially with women. Women I have trusted and have shown this type of vulnerability in front of lose respect for me and in the end view me as weak. When reality I trusted them with my emotions. For the fact they said that they believe men shouldnât be ashamed to cry. Now I also believe it take far more bravery and strength to show real and raw emotion as a man. Especially in a hyper masculine society. But women do not realize that if a man does show his feelings this means he see you as his equal. are you going to be brave and have the strength to hold his emotions safe as he does for you.
Or are you going to buckle and call him weak because you had no idea the amount of stress and pain he carries on his shoulders?
I am seriously asking for you to reflect on this question.
Men have unmeasurable amount of expectation that we silently endure and most the time we do it with no help from another soul. So find yourself lucky if your man ever trusts you in this way. It is a gift.
That is my opinion.00 Reply373 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. While it's true men do need healthy outlets for emotions, it's bad advice to just tell men to cry. The reason behind why so many men harbor emotions is because it is rarely received well by society. Women especially are masters of emotional manipulation, so cry around the wrong woman and not only will she lose respect for you, she will potentially use it against you. So finding the right outlet for your emotions as a man is extremely important. You must protect your peace. No man should believe for a second that the world works the way it should work, or you will be disappointed with the result. Unfortunately the world still has a lot to learn about mens emotions. So be smart. Go to therapy, and only trust your emotions with trustworthy friends and family. Good luck.
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+1 yI have been a nanny for 7 years. Worked at day cares. Every little baby boy needs love & care no different from a girl. They are just dependent. Every little boy wants cuddles, kisses, pick me ups and ask to be soothed no different from little girls.
Every preteen boy feels awkward, scared to not fit in, crush on a class mate, cryâs when they hurt & ask for hugs no different from pre teen girls.This proves that men have emotions just as great as women do however lifeâs challenges, experiences, hardships is what takes a great human to retract their beautiful heart so they wonât get hurt again.
00 Reply751 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I think they pick and choose what kinds of emotions they'll accept in a man. Or even what they're being emotional about. What I struggle with is how they claim it's okay if a man gets emotional or even needs to cry, but then they turn right around and treat a guy like he's being a "girl" for needing to get something off of his chest. Or they will literally laugh at him as a derisive way of trying to minimize him if he is angry and expressing his displeasure with something she did.
Ultimately I think a lot of women want all the focus on their emotions, as they also have a habit of wanting to control other people emotionally especially men. That's both wicked and selfish.
00 ReplyWhether they admit it or not, women have the expectation that men should be strong. It makes them feel protected because they've historically been weak. Most modern women have this disgusting notion that anything short of arrogance isn't manly. Showing emotions like sadness or insecurity, to most of them, implies weakness. To them, it's preferable for you to bash your head against a brick wall than to acknowledge how badly it'll hurt.
That my friend is toxic masculinity. Ironically, I hear women complain about this but it's quite normal for them to have sexist expectations.
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+1 yWe do. My boyfriend is having some mental health problems right now and he just will not be open about his emotions no matter how much I encourage and support him. I think men put pressure on each other throughout life and make each other feel like they arenât âmanlyâ if they are open with their emotions, and then they feel like they canât be open with it to women so they have communication problems
10 ReplyMen can cry also we never said they dont. Men need to express their emotions in this world. Society today tells them to be tough and emotionless.
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Which is why our women have to receive or emotions. Saying them out loud or expressing them just isn't enough.. I know my women's emotions control mine. If she's sad I'm sad if she mad I'm mad.. that's shows proof of me receiving her feelings.. not saying that this how women are expected to react.
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+1 yThey do and they don't, some do more and others don't.
You can flip that to ask why men don't consider women's feelings.
I think the answer is selfishness and self preservation, sometimes fear.
Question has to be pinpointed more to get meaningful.
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+1 yIF she approves of the emotion, the reason youâre experiencing it AND the way in which you express it, she MIGHT not hold it against you. No guarantee in the long term though.
Under any other circumstances, you are toast. She wonât respect you. Sheâll likely resent you. And sheâll probably tell everyone she knows what a useless human being you are in an attempt to keep you from breeding more useless humans into her world.10 ReplyI don't care what women think. They can shove that emotional bull crap up their collective arses.
Nobody cares about a guy's feeling. You tell that to a girl and you a become a weak boy in her eyes.
The only one who understands are the guys who went through the same crap you did. They give you a beer and leave you alone. If you need help, they will help.
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+1 yIf ur getting clusters of emotions built up, mabe consider therapy? Ya u can talk to friends, including women, or family, or your partner. But if it's building up or getting hard to deal with, don't put all that on one person who isn't qualified for it. It won't go well no matter if they care or not.
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+1 ymost guys i have been with rarely show emotions, except anger, hate, and desire.
I joke to my gfs, the only emotion my guys have is the Joy of me sucking all their pudding out of their balls and cock!
Guys don't like to cry especially. It is perceived as Weakness. I love a man that can cry and not be mad about it.01 Reply
+1 yWe do, you just gotta meet good women thatâs caring
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yMen who express their emotions are often seen as weak. Because of that, many men neglect to show their emotions because they're afraid of the repercussions. However, suppressing emotions and feelings can be incredibly detrimental to a man's mental health.
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+1 yWomen evolved to mate with strong men, not weak ones, and sentimental men are perceived as weak.
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You know I grew up with this thought. I've actually explained it early on to women in relationships in my teen years why I didn't display emotion. But when u start to love someone it's hard to keep those emotions hidden. You constantly think about them. It's hard to sleep without them. You catch yourself daydreaming about them. As I got older women told me they wanted to see the emotions bc it showed them I cared. Well... that was a lie đ€„
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Exactly right.
+1 yNot true. Vulnerability makes a person more attractive in a relationship in most cases. A lot of men don't show their emotions, not because women told them not to, but because they told themselves not to.
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+1 yItâs not that they donât consider them. Itâs just hard to act appropriately when men donât express their emotions in a way that can be civil and nonviolent. Sometime men express thier emotions in ways that arenât verbal or donât put the responding party in a receptive mood, such as yelling.
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+1 yNo, ladies, we are not made of wood or iron or even titanium and other super metal alloys, we are flesh and blood creatures just like yourselves.
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+1 yNever had that issue.
I always hear about people talking about men not being allowed to have feelings, but I think this might be something only guys in rural areas have to deal with.02 Reply- +1 y
I live in the city.. you must be from a major metropolitan area where you have more women and more diverse women. Smaller cities have this problem on a major scale due to most women following society's standard. When you have more women you have better chance of getting the odd women out I guess
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I wish, I'm in the burbs.
I feel like this is a trick question. If we say we do, youâre not going to believe us. Itâs better not to say anything and let you decide if we consider your emotions or not.
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But you donât though thatâs why a lot of women are single rn
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No because for a man to get women we have to consider their feelings and make an effort to understand them
Men are content with it though itâs called MGTOW for a reason đ€Ł - +1 y
Thatâs fine as a man I can live the rest of my days fucking women and never settling down sounds awesome actually
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I ask myself that everyday especially with girls my age they are disgusting but I canât help it the curse of manhood I guess
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Masturbating wonât stop my carnal instincts why do you so many guys in relationships still masturbate? I can masturbate all day and still want to fuck women it doesnât go away
mens bodies are made to always be ready for sex whenever the women ready thatâs why you donât have to be sexy to get a guy in the mood
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Thatâs what trans women are for but until then Iâm gonna hump real women lol
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She doesnât understand that men control access to relationships
This is the equivalent of an average guy saving he chooses to be a virgin - +1 y
Nope
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So youâre saying women rather die than consider menâs feelings? Whatâs so wrong with making an effort to understand men? especially when men try so hard to understand women
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Maâam have you had any therapy? Quitting isnât the answer greatness comes from adversity
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Because youâre also a person
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Of course you donât because if you did youâd realize how sad men are/would be without women
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No and thatâs such an archaic way of seeing men of course we want to fuck you but we also want a wife a helpmate we compliment one another you are our other half
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I didnât say that I said Iâm fine with just fucking them but Iâd prefer more the truth is too many woman only know how to seduce men only know how to have sex with a man but not how to love one unfortunately sex is the only thing a lot of women offer
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Thatâs too bad but Iâm content with it
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Because man loves woman man must have his mate ( mate meaning One , Singular )
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Of course I do thatâs what most men want but we will also take what we can get
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Liar
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You arenât content with the bare minimum in life especially when you can have more
3K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. According to women, we donât have any emotions to protect
18 ReplyI don't think that there's anything wrong with men crying. We are all human and we all feel (psychopats excluded lol)
00 Reply844 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Men donât consider their own emotions. Weâre the biggest victims of our own toxic masculinity.
No crying! No complaining! No asking for help!010 Reply- +1 y
I was broke ny whole childhood and into my early adult hood? How come I'm bot in prison or did a crime? Ain't no damn excuses. It's a choice either you figure it out or you Cry like a sissy and sissies Ain't respected, so suck it up and boofuckinghoo to those men, who just can't get right.
+1 ySome women do. Or we try to. It depends on the woman, the emotion and often the situation.
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+1 yThe vast majority do, so women generally act accordingly.
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Iâm not telling you you havenât experienced something you have. Iâm just relaying my experience. Everyone woman is different, if the women of your life have treated you poorly Iâm sorry for that
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Your experience don't count for the " Vast Majority" so no your just lying that's all. As I said what you said is cap... my experiences aren't the only experiences I know. I've witness many women in many relationships or not be careless when it comes to considering others feelings. The Vast Majority is selfish.. Which is the reason y'all created the feminist movement..
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Actually itâs scientific. All around the world, women are better empathizers than men, study finds. No matter where they live in the world, no matter what their cultural or family influences: In general, women are better at empathizing with other people than men, according to a study published in the journal PNAS
I mean I do, but there's narcissistic women too just like men.
00 ReplyThis can be either sex. I've seen girls dish out tough love and I've seen guys do it too. Its a matter of the woman's background with emotions.
00 Reply302 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Men shouldn't be emtional anyway. Being emtional makes you do stupid shit and it influences your decisions. You have to be logical and think with your mind
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+1 yIt isn't really women's fault. It's Ronald Levant's folly in regards to "normative male alexithymia."
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+1 yIt is much easier to paint men as evil and entirely privileged if you don't acknowledge their feelings and struggles.
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+1 yWomen need to create a safe space for a man to do that. Most women will try but then complain the man is too emotional. lol
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+1 ySome women consider men's feelings and some don't. Some women want their man to be their only their needs and support and not do anything that will also benefit the man as well.
10 ReplyFuck your pansy ass emotions. A Man has shit to do.
20 ReplyIt's not a gender related issue. Many men may or may not consider a women's emotions either.
00 ReplyMy wife doesn't unless someone dies, but she still doesn't handle that right either.
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+1 yI do respect menâs feelings.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yBut we do!
Stop making up BS.
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https://youtu.be/gk5er_Ar4hc and look at all these women getting disgusted by this guy breaking down. Easier said than done. Or maybe if you do you like to take advantage of it
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@Aiko_E_Lara damn that's harsh. I hope it's rare. Those women probably have bad experiences with men anyway lol. And so they're likely being sexist.
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Theyre litterally like the first few women who they tested and they're already acting like that. So the odds are fairly high
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@Asad1ONE1 You're basically justifying their behavior because of men. You might as well blame women as to why incels exist.
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@Aiko_E_Lara I hate when feminist or others use men as justification
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@Aiko_E_Lara I'm not "justifying". My point? There's always a reason behind everything. And wouldn't you rather hear that than if I told you "women are more cruel than men"? Because if that's the case, we're screwed.
And no. False analogy about "incels". That's irrelevant. - +1 y
Yes there is always a reason behind everything but you don't assume the reason. And explain how the analogy is false? because they involve the same principle
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I'm not sure what the reason is. But there is a reason. What do you think the reason is? Women are worse than men? Women are turned off by men's emotions? If so, it's just those women and doesn't apply to all women. Not even most hopefully.
And if you're going to blame incels for being incels. Might as well say the same for "femcels". - +1 y
The reason could be anything but you're just jumping to conclusion so soon. If i have to give you a reasoning that has been biologically proven, it's because we still have our ancestors dna and it is an instinct to look down on men showing their emotions because they're the ones who should be in the front line to protect the family so it may have nothing to do with bad experiences of men. Yeah right we are all to be blame when it comes to incels, but when it comes to women not being emotionally available for men, it is still men's fault right? Way to prove double standards
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That's a completely different topic now and no i'm not getting hopeless about women. The topic is about how you just jump to conclusion that it is because of men
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yWhat is he crying about?
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Opinion Owner+1 yHe lost in a video game? Lol I wouldn't even date a guy that plays video games.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Ryfyle yes he's a red flag
+1 yBecause we are all evil and hating, right?
00 Reply862 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Men that cry are Nancy's
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+1 yThey do. Of course they do.
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+1 yDepends... i do care a lot
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+1 yWe do
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+1 yThey do.
00 Reply5.2K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. They do
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThey surely do.
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