Women are as visual as men, but dont admit it so they dont appear shallow. Do you agree?

[Anonymous]

most women won't admit it because they dont want to appear evil.

[Anonymous]

I genuinely can't speak for every woman but for me I disagree.

I am more of a visual thinker. I see things in my head imagine things and scenarios I like to be spoken to a certain way I like to fantasize.

I am personally not a visual. I don't find looking at just any naked man arousing. It's for me too much. It's not exciting at all. I am often told how beautiful I am so I do not think it is insecurity.

I genuinely feel uncomfortable. I always look away it's not something I enjoy.

My boyfriend likes to look a lot. He loves it. He could put his face in it if I'd let him. But me I'd rather have my eyes closed and just let my self go. It's all mental.

But if it's not sexual. I do think a man can be very handsome and beautiful. But even someone who does not think he looks good.

For me if he has great hygiene/self care I find that more beautiful. U don't need to be like a model. Absolutely not. A good man with a good heart and wants to be a better person at his core that is a man I find beautiful.

Take care of yourself. Groom yourself. Love yourself.

U don't need to be a body builder. As long as u walk and healthy. Eat well. I think having self control, being loving, disciplined, a man of your word are far more beautiful qualities to me.

[CubsterShura]

Women also notice men's looks lol they simply care less. Not only do we notice but we notice things down to the details that men don't. Most men can't describe things beyond very simple and broad terms that could mean anything and nothing at the same time. If I ask my boyfriend do you remember what color my outfit was on my last date he is most likely not going to answer correctly.

Get over yourselves, y'all just want to be able to ogle women and treat them like objects without any consequences so came up with this stupid phrase to convince us that you can't help it when you absolutely can and have zero excuses in 2023. We can see through it very well.

[desidoll]

Well put. Some men act like looks don’t matter but will go for the prettiest girl in the room lol then comes up with thing like “I like her personality”

[CubsterShura]

@desidoll exactly lol. Nothing wrong with liking the way someone looks but liking someone for the way they look is totally different and abhorrent.

[RingOfFire]

The answer is a little deeper.

The key to answering this question is understanding that women in general have less of a sexual drive than men... (if that wasn't the case there would be fucking on every street corner).

Because of this their visual stimulation when they see a man they are attracted to is not as strong as a man's. They are stimulated to some degree, but women are more stimulated by other characteristics of men not as much about their physical appearance. This is why you see so many ugly guys with beautiful women and rarely the other way around.

Men are programmed by nature and millions of years of evolution to be stimulated by a female's looks just like many other animal species that have one sex or the other that has an adorned look to attract the opposite sex. For birds like Cardinals, for example, it is the male that has the beautiful colors to attract the females. For humans it is the female who is designed to physically attract and stimulate the male.

So the answer is no, women are not "as visual" as men.

[RoosterBreast]

Right. I've never seen a hen humping a rooster.

[RingOfFire]

Well said!

[ManOnFire]

Actually I think women are more visual than men, and in different aspects. Not only are they visual about men physically but they are also visual about their own appearance and the appearances of other women.

Women are also visual in a social sense as well. They tend to be more self-conscious in public and are often concerned with how they look in social situations, around certain people, and even depending on what somebody says to them in front of other people. This kind of paranoia is still a sense of being visual because they're worried about appearance, how they look in front of others or how they perceive something as making them look ridiculous.

[Pinay_ako]

Why do every woman related questions imply that women are evil? 🤣 or the question askers just don’t like women in general and they always speak as if all women as one whole person who are one and the same? And they always seem to state a fact like it’s the truth… but when women make statements about men, they get mad. And they are mostly anonymous askers. What did women do to you to get you to this point?

[hahahmm]

Don't think so. A study was done where pictures of people was shown to men and women. Men always talked about how hot the women looked. Women tried to guess what job the man had and what level of income he had based on how he was dressed. Now... I'm not saying women only care about money, but it's similar - i think - to how a man thinks of a woman's breast size. with the added feature that women known a man can be a sucker/okay with giving her 10,000 times more than she gives him. So men & women don't approach life the same.

The young women on college campuses are living in an alternate reality bubble where things work differently tho. They may honestly just act like wild animals and not think about much beyond looks

[Reem12345reem]

most of my girl friends rejects ugly guys and whenever i send them a picture of one of my crushes (they're actually handsome but she has a different type and considers them ugly) she tells me eww he looks like a rat , find someone else , or she tells me ''let's go to this place there's a lot of handsome guys there'' , so I agree , and like I blocked 3 guys (altho i liked their personality and started a great conversation) but when they sent me a face reveal I blocked them so yeah part of it is true , but most girls would be totally fine with average looking guys , or medium ugly , the ones i blocked weren't average , but it varies from girl to girl on how much she prioritizes looks , especially now bc of Pinterest aesthetics

[Apple1996]

Its been proven that men and women are both equally visual. Not even sure why people think we are different in that way. I know for me I get turned on looking at someone attractive and no it doesn't come off as shallow. We all enjoy pretty things/people and there's nothing wrong with that.

[Shy_Steve]

That's true, But when you Girls stare to long your not labelled as Creepy or Weird are you.

[Apple1996]

@Shy_Steve yeah we are also more sneaky about staring

[Shy_Steve]

I don't know why because we usually love it when Girls stare at us because it's usually the only sign we get from you Girls when you like us.

[Asker]

@Shy_Steve probably because they don’t wanna appear creepy and/or are too awkward for that.

[Anonymous]

100% not true. I know some men I consider 10/10 look wise but I would never sleep with because I don’t like their personality. Men can sleep with anything as long as it’s visually appealing which is why it’s easier for men to cheat.
And if this were true, there wouldn’t be a collective statistic that most women find more than half of men they encounter unattractive or average.
If this question were true there also wouldn’t be a collective of undesirable men on this site complaining about women not wanting them.

[inhua]

most men are physically unattractive when measured by the standards women consider attractive in men. for example only 15% of men are over 6 feet tall. this already cuts out 85% of every other man. height alone is just one factor and there's plenty others that will continue to narrow down more men

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua I literally just said that. That was my literal point in answering the question. Did you even read it or are you just talking to hear yourself talk.

[BeingAManSucks]

So you say looks don't matter at all? Why do you girls always come with this "if he looks good but his personality is not good" BS? Who said that you can't find both his looks and personality attractive? How can you have sex with a guy who you don't find physically attractive? Give me a break.

[Opinion Owner]

@BeingAManSucks Just from your username I can already determine you’re not worth a argument with.

[BeingAManSucks]

Don't judge me based on my username.

[Opinion Owner]

@BeingAManSucks I already did. Goodbye.

[inhua]

while you may never sleep with a 10/10 after finding out he has a bad personality, you'd never consider sleeping with a 1/10 regardless of whether you know his personality or not

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua Probably not. And you wouldn’t either.

[inhua]

never said otherwise. most men are at least willing to admit this. most women on the other hand will say the opposite

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua Who cares

[inhua]

nobody should care but it's funny when women accuse men of being shallow when they're just as guilty if not worse than men in that regard and have the audacity to gaslight them for having "bad personalities" knowing damn well they don't care about his personality to begin with

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua Okay then be gay then

[inhua]

what's wrong with being gay? are you homophobic?

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua Nope. I completely support your decision to switch to men since you have so many problems with women. Maybe it’s for the best.

[inhua]

why did you try to use "gay" as an insult then? don't try to hide it. you know what you were trying to do

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua Nowhere did I use gay as an insult. You just took it as such. I merely suggested that if you have so many problems finding a woman, then maybe it’s time for you to start dating and having sex with other men. Complaining about it on the internet isn’t going to change anything so maybe it’s time.

[inhua]

because the solution to every problem is sex right?

perhaps women who "complain" about male rapists and male murderers should just be lesbians instead according to your logic

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua Well usually those women are complaining for a legitimate reason, not because they’re just undesirable to most women and mad about it lol..

[inhua]

most of those women are complaining because they are undesirable. you got fat women with piercings and tattoos and weird colored hair marching the streets for issues like rape and abortion when no man finds them desirable enough to fuck them. you don't see attractive VC or IG models doing the same thing.

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua And you aren’t getting with a VC or IG model so you don’t have to worry about what they’re doing.

[inhua]

I don't care what they're doing. it's well within their rights for them to be attracted to attractive men as is for men to be attracted to attractive women. nothing wrong with it

though they'd probably be virtue signaling about the importance of "inner beauty"

[Opinion Owner]

@inhua I’m gonna block you now. You’re getting annoying

[inhua]

attraction is biological. not political

there's nothing wrong or evil about being "shallow"

lying about preferring personality first over looks doesn't make you morally superior to someone who admits the truth of preferring looks first over personality

[abc3643]

No, not exactly. This is because the sensory processing in humans males and females are evolved to be different and this includes sight.

For example:

https://www.genengnews.com/insights/why-men-and-women-see-things-differently/

[inhua]

that doesn't make women any less visual than men

sure a tall wide frame and muscular arms/legs won't turn us on as much as big boobs, big butt, hour-glass figure etc. but it turns women on.

the difference is one of those body types is more easily achievable and than the other which requires more work and maintenance and even then some things can't be controlled like height

[BeingAManSucks]

Here is my take on why some woman lie about it. These are the possible 3 reasons. I want to adress it before that caring about BOTH looks and personality does NOT make anyone shallow. How are you get sexually attracted without being attracted to someone visually? Give me a break. Also, everyone has a different taste so there's that. So the 3 reasons are:

- Mommy and daddy teached them that looks don't matter when it comes to man so the girl won't seem "shallow" if it does.

- Her parents, and/or their religion tought them that looks don't matter cause they appear "shallow" if it does.

- They lie about it cause they are afraid of society and they try to not appear as "shallow" as possible.

[DermalPunch]

You're conflating two things that are not part and parcel. Being visual does not automatically mean shallow or superficial.

Men are more visually inclined and are willing to overlook many red flags in a woman if she is very beautiful or if she is very sexually desirable.

Women, less.

[Unit1]

I'll keep this simple.

Some women love with their eyes the same way we do.

And some women "love with their eyes" but instead it's with their ears. Or their perceptions of us and how we make them feel. A whiny man that complains about women and feminism is about as attractive as "extra plus sized" single mothers are to us.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Definitely, though they don't hide it for that reason (it's not viewed as evil), they hide it because they want sex to be something that rewards the guy, so they can manipulate the guy into giving them things in return for sex. When the reality is sex itself is rewarding to both parties involved, so its just a cover to be greedy and manipulative.

[Spongebobssocks]

No. Most women need an emotional commection before they can be attracted to the man. But before the emtional connection she can usually tell by features who has the possibility to become attractive

[Anonymous]

This is true at least in the beginning. But a woman CAN find you hideous but through your personality grow to find you attractive.

I had a woman I'd known for a while come onto me. She said "when I first met you I didn't find you attractive". So I replied, "when I first met you I didn't find you attractive either... and I still don't"! 😆😆😆

I think in her mind she thought she was paying me a compliment.😆

[virtualwasp]

everyone is visual, if not we could all date anyone without issue. having a type wouldn't exist.

[Dan_5001]

People wouldn't have dating problems if homosapiens (humans) were not visual creatures.

[virtualwasp]

@Dan_5001 agree, some people are more selective than others but it doesn't always make them shallow.

[sheikalana]

I'm very very visual. Is not something I try to hide at all. I actually wish I wasn't as visual.

[rachel776]

i think we're more visual in our head, we think about things and imagine things but don't act on them

[KatherineJ]

I notice looks, naturally. But I pay a lot more attention to things like how he is dressed, how his body language is, and how he Carrie’s himself. A guy can be really cute, but a total zero in every other facet that I notice.

[kellytheman]

They are visual but probably less because they have more of imagination than men in my opinion. Also I don’t really consider someone shallow if they are attracted to attractive person and women are not certainly evil.

[PeteA380]

Women are married, bachelorettes (saintesses, virgins) are not.

Attraction itself starts visually but goes further than that, especially to brain-bulk levels.

It's all obvious stuff.

[nastyb]

there is a saying "men fall in love with their eyes and women fall in love with their ears"