Do women really want men to be more like women?

[HouseMoat]

I've seen and heard that women want men to be more like women. I'm not saying wearing "girly" clothing, but, I mean like, being more artistic instead of sporty, more emotional, etc..

If this is true, then why won't women start to be more like men, when we want them to be?

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Some people on this site are such fucking retards

[Anonymous]

No they do not at all. But women want (and sometimes very unfairly expect) men to understand them and judge situations the same way they do. But they definitely don’t want me to be like them especially in romantically situations (with very raw exceptions)

I will never expect women to fully comprehend men. I’ve heard it said in the past that “women understand men better than men understand women”. However the older I get the more I now believe that is longer believe that. At all. From my observations women only care about understanding men if there is something in it for them.

I guess that could be theoretically fair if expectations were applied equally on both sides. However in recent times more and more women are demanding that men understand them regardless if there is something in it for the man or not. They demand to be special just for existing.

It’s like how women expect men not be emotionally upset (not saying violent/threatening but just upset) when they break up or reject them just because they don’t want to “feel guilty”. Many guys will keep their cool out of pride in these scenarios. To act like it doesn’t bother them (which can sometimes be effective strategy to make some women reconsider later).

However in that scenario the woman no longer has anything to offer the man at all so why is he expected to give a sh*t about her “guilty feelings”? He shouldn’t be but there is societal pressure there despite the fact she's now worthless to him.

Same vice versa but women have a lot more leeway to get upset and not care if the man feels bad/guilty if he rejects/breaks up with a woman.

[Joshydavid25]

No they don't.. Most women still like masculine man in some shape and form.. It's the loud minority of weird women who are trying to speak for the average woman and demonize masculinity in men while uplifting it in women or "others".. It's just a power play..

[thatshydork]

I’m not sure what you mean by ‘be more like women’, but I do know that there are girls out there who would prefer it if guys didn’t care so much about if another guy thought what their doing isn’t manly. Obviously this isn’t every girl and every guy, but they’re out there for sure. I am in fact one of those girls who wishes guys I knew weren’t as concerned with what other guys think about them, but if they just do things they like doing and those things happen to be more what society considers manly, so be it. Being artistic isn’t a feminine trait - I know there will be men out there who will disagree with me, but it’s not - it just means that you’ve learned to express yourself in an artistic fashion. There’s nothing womanly or manly about being artistic, that’s the beauty of art. Art is confined to no specification. There’s no right or wrong way of making art, just like there’s no part of art that’s womanly or manly.

[HouseMoat]

Act like them

[thatshydork]

Yeah that still doesn’t make sense or give any clues as to what you’re talking about unless you’re talking about the stereotypical gender norms, but most girls I know aren’t like that. In fact, most girls I know would rather play a sport or something that would be considered manly by stereotypical gender norms than what the stereotypical gender norms consider as womanly. Besides that, ‘act like them’ is too broad of a term and leaves what women act like up to interpretation.

[thatshydork]

*interpretation of the reader. If I said “play that game” with no context or detail like you’re doing here by saying “act like them” I could be talking about any game. If you just say “act like them”, that could mean absolutely anything because women don’t act a certain way. When you say “act like them”, it could mean anything from rolling and wrestling in the mud with your friends to sitting and reading a book.

[dustybiker2]

Did one woman trigger this in you? We all think pretty differently. As you can see by each pink reply on the site alone.


Some of us had more male friends which helps us understand men more.


There are men who are raised in homes with no male role model. Maybe a single mother with sisters and an absent father, for whatever reason. But that gave them a better understanding on how to socialize with woman.


Maybe not compare yourself or let people change you, but find someone who wants you for you.

[SolitarySolace]

There are women out there who want men to be more feminine instead of masculine. The whole demonization of men and masculinity. The baby girl vibe thing which if you’re not familiar is a new gen a term for feminine men who don’t give a fuck about themselves and only care about women

[Anonymous]

I think women are looking to “connect” with men more so we want them to be more emotional and into the things we like, etc. But I see your point. Do I just want a woman in a man’s body? No. But I do want a man that can express himself, and not be afraid to be vulnerable but also protective and tough. I want it all! 🤣

[Anonymous]

Women started saying that shit as far back as the 1980s. If not earlier. I'm old enough to remember. A whole generation of young men complied and then SURPRISE it turned out women weren't attracted to guys who were emotional and in touch with their feelings and in every way more feminine.

It's not PC to say this but women don't know what they want. Be a man. Str8 women want men. If you want a masculine woman... that's on you.

[DizzyDesii]

How is artistic girly? Seems unisex af. I want a guy whos creative, poetic, open to express his emotions (but not necessarily emotional). Sporty is fine. I still want a guy to be/look/act masculine

[tremendousfern]

Arts and crafts is girly. When men do art they obsess over perfecting their technique, alienate all of their friends and family, live in abject poverty, go insane, and then kill themselves.

[DizzyDesii]

@tremendousfern being a perfectionist isn't bad. I like when a guy has high attention to detail. Alienating friends is fine. Lonewolves are hot. Living in poverty? Yea no. You can have art as a hobby rather than a career/profession. Killing themselves is just not true

[LazerBean]

Just go outside and see how many women are with men who are more feminine that average. The answer is clearly no.

[JacobJordan]

You do realize your post proves the point of his question right? Lol he asked if women want men to be more like women as in more feminine your response. Look at the women with feminine men clearly not.

[LazerBean]

English must not be your first language

[JacobJordan]

Again did you read what you wrote perhaps you should be more literate child

[LazerBean]

I'm sorry that you don't know how basic English works

[JacobJordan]

"Just go outside and see how many women are with men who are more feminine that average" your comment. His question "Do women really want men to be more like women?" Are you really that stupid? I know you are 24 but damn you don't have to have iq to match

[LazerBean]

Honey. That's just not true. Let me make it more simple for you.

1. You ask "do people really ride unicycles instead of cars?"

2. Then I say "Just go outside and see how many people are riding unicycles."

3. If you do as I say and go outside to have a look, out of all the people you see, what percentage of people on unicycles are you going to see on the road?

The answer is zero. Right? Obviously. So people with logic skills will see that and obviously see that I am saying "no".

[JacobJordan]

And the reality is more women are with feminine men lol so again you think you are doing something and failing. Try using English properly cause you suck at it

[LazerBean]

You think more women are with more feminine men vs average men?

[Anonymous]

Some might like that, but generally you should just focus on the girls you find attractive, ignore what anyone (including them!) says and just watch and observe what they ACTUALLY respond to. Are they attracted to and dating manly men? Are they attracted to and dating soy boys? What is it that has the greatest chance of success? That's what you want to emulate.

[A_Bell]

No. If I wanted a woman, I'd date one. I want someone who compliments me, not isn't me.

[HouseMoat]

But you'd have more things in common, and likely wouldn't fight as much

Isn't that what "complEmenting each other is, they're like you

[A_Bell]

Someone kick you in your remaining ball today?

Sorry you were unable to understand my comment and got mad about it. But your tantrum will pass.

[blueonblack22]

In a healthy relationship men and women compliment each other. Of course there is plenty of misunderstanding and friction because we think differently. But there are also major benefits of thinking differently.

@A_Bell I totally respect and agree with where you are coming from. Also congrats again on becoming a mother!

But you have to understand many boys and young man are completely confused on what “being a man” really is thanks to all damage modern feminism has done to our culture.. But women instinctively still expect men to “get it”.

This f*cked up conundrum is not all the young man’s fault given all the mixed messages and brainwashing he deals with in modern culture. Women need to have more patience when it comes to that.

[A_Bell]

@blueonblack22 yes, it's bad and I have done my part to complain, but then you get labeled a "pickme" or whatever that's supposed to be. I guess it means the girl version of Uncle Tom.

[blueonblack22]

@A_Bell yeah I saw your post calling out feminism a while back. We need more of that from WOMEN. Also not letting men off the hook but a lot of this bs isn’t their fault.

They were set up to fail and modern feminism is a major culprit (not the only reason but a major one).

[NathanDavis]

I've never been told by any woman before to "be more like a woman"

[BoopBoopBeep]

I've never had a woman say that was what they wanted in real life.

[Berweic]

Never! This is the last thing I want. Men who show that they are men with high masculine energy are +1 ahead for me.

[NewgodOmega]

Yeah they do
Then men are easier to manipulate and control

[Nikki1989]

No they don't. Well, I really hope not.

[HouseMoat]

Why?

[TheSpaceGnome]

What a ridiculous question.

Art, sports, and emotions have nothing to do with biological sex.

[Anonymous]

No. Women today are really confused about what they want. They just think they know. 90% of the time they get it and are still disappointed.

[In_Trance]

Mass media will make you believe this is true but take a look around and see how many women are with feminine men

[LazerBean]

@JacobJordan how come you aren't whining to this guy too, even though he's saying the same thing as me?

[JacobJordan]

@LazerBean typical woman assumes getting corrected is someone whining. If you going to tell people that their English is bad you best make damn sure yours is perfect. As for what didn't I respond to him I hadn't seen his post obviously.

[LazerBean]

You aren't correct though, therefore what you're doing is just feminine whining. But now that you've seen this one are you going to moan at him, too?

[JacobJordan]

@LazerBean learn what moan and whine mean sandwich maker

[LazerBean]

So that's a no. As expected, since feminine men like yourself do not have enough balls to say the same retarded things to men that they do to women. Have a good day, ma'am.

[JacobJordan]

@LazerBean lol i already explained it xx chromosome. I don't need to repeat the same argument to another person just because you say so. Also baby maker I call out bullshit when I see it. I didn't see it as already stated had I seen it I would have said something unlike you I don't hide behind others to defend myself. Because unlike you I don't say stupid shit.

[Unit1]

Have you seen what type of men are actually getting the most women?

[captain_voidwalker]

Thier words will say yes but thier actions and dating statistics say no.

[Xia1994]

Not me, I love manly mens

[JayBones]

Who the fuck cares. women are stupid.

[lil_will_12]

ok buddy 🙄

[JayBones]

OK virgin

[laly520]

@lil_will_12 dont answer him
he is always a big troll

[lil_will_12]

@laly520 oh ok, thanks 👍

[HouseMoat]

Says you

[Anonymous]

When do you want us to be like men?

[HouseMoat]

Think about it

[Opinion Owner]

Thought about it still makes no sense

[HouseMoat]

Keep thinking about it

[Opinion Owner]

If you want a man why not be with a man?