Why Do Some Men Think They're Better At Knowing What A Woman Really Wants? Should We Test That Theory (please read details before reply)?

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

I've seen it time and again on here, guys that say never get dating/relationship advice from a woman. But then they're giving poor advice like "women don't want the truth" or "women don't want a man who shows emotion"...
So let's see who gives better advice..
Guys and Gals, reply with what you want in a partner/relationship and dating tips about what would work for someone to get you interested in them. But also, like 👍 the advice of others if you agree and dislike 👎 if you disagree. Let's see who knows what women want more "men" or "women"
#gameon play nice 🙂

Updates

+1 y

That was supposed to be say what you think "Women" want and the best way to get a "woman" interested

[AmandaYVR]

It's a good idea, BBB.
I spent a while reading through everyone's comments.
It's true, it's men who say this, not women. Why? Here's some theories on that.

• It's men who do the vast majority of approaching, so they, as the advancers, also deal with the most rejections. They are testing out their techniques and are therefore doing bulk of the data collection. So to be fair, there is some validity to their more statistical approach to all this. As with many of their conclusions, they tend to file them away as success/failure.
• However, men tend to more often attribute their successes to themselves, and their failures to unforeseen circumstances. (There was a university study about this. Very interesting.) Females tend to not credit themselves as much. What's one takeaway here? Arrogance, conceitedness. They think they know more than they do. This is another big difference for why females don't state their opinions with such conviction. (Also, men are the risk-takers, so they have to proceed with more confidence, or they would stagnate in that more active role they must take in life. Manufacturing confidence, gumption, whatever, is necessary. If it's false sometimes, I'm not surprised; it seems to be a byproduct out of necessity.)
• I've never had a man I was involved with, friends with, or respected, say this to me. Ever. My conclusion? It's the dumb ones who think this ("don't take dating advice from women.) And I don't associate with guys like that. They exist in the world, but not in my world. And as some other pinks here have said, what's the point in associating with, arguing with, these types? Waste of our time. (Although some men think that women check out too easily, and should engage, to keep the dialogue between genders going, and I do agree with that too. Finding that line between open communication and hostile arguments just for the sake of it... that's the crux.)
• So I don't feel compelled to give my 'best dating advice' as proof, because I'd be doing it as a defensive move, and I believe in negotiation, as in law, it is the accuser's job to make the case.
• But I do like your question, it's kind of fun. It doesn't seem to be playing out how you intended, I suspect, but the concept is sound. Instead it's mostly become a debate on whether men can listen to women's advice and why don't women know what they want (I call bullshit on that. It's really a matter of expectations being unrealistic, not fitting the marketplace, than indecision. Indecision is an erroneous conclusion, I believe.)
• But here's the main reason I won't bother writing something in that vein - because it would be too general, and I like details, I think life is full of greys, and generalities sound more like platitudes and that's just not something that appeals to me. I'm one of these people who will take the time to really listen to someone's issue, life, often whatever they want to talk about, and sometimes the more complex the problem, the more interested I may become. Even a paragraph of detail steers the conversation somewhere more specific, which I much prefer.
• I also saw someone here mention that advice from men, to men, is more specific, concise, and 'this worked for me' stuff. And that is very much the way men like to take in information. Women's advice is softer, longer, includes more details, nuance, and 1. It's too long, often, and 2. Maybe that comes off as too abstract for guys to take in.

[AmandaYVR]

Who gives better advice?

Women are sponges with their observations; they're very analytical in this realm; compassionate, understanding; they don't lose patience, get bored, cut you off, change the subject, 'mansplain' acting as if they know, for certain, more than they do, with a very limited amount of details; if they care about you, they are very supportive, and become easily invested in how it all turns out. If you've got a serious issue in your existing relationship, they will analyze *with* you (not telling you what to do, impatiently, firmly), all the details, often for as long as you need.

Men are not as naturally as interested, want to get on with it and either fix the problem or soon stop talking about it. They don't seem to understand (or care about) all the complexities of emotions quite as well, although that does level out somewhat once adults.
They also focus more on their own situations, and less on the dynamics of other people, which means less data collection of others, not relating to them.
While guys have been watching sports, playing video games, living their life etc., I've got a solid ten years of reference in my head from watching relationship dynamics on reality shows, and as much as some people disparage them, if you pay attention, there is a wealth of information in them. Nowhere else do you get to hear two or more sides of a story or situation being filmed, hear the conversations as they happened, not as a memory-dependent retelling, then hear their interpretations, and are able to see the future repercussions of all their decisions, play out in any other context. My entire life, people have confided in me, the most personal details of their life and relationships, and I use it all in my understanding of social dynamics.

[AmandaYVR]

With men, there's more of an independent, live and let live approach to others. They're interested if receiving advice about their own life, to a point. They want clear, concise, specific advice that can be applied broadly, but as women proclaim, almost in unison, don't try to apply the same rules to all women, as they are all individuals.
The same thing could be said for men, but, again, the males are the advancers, so developing a strategy falls much more on them, and they will always be the ones needing the basic foundational principles (rules) to follow and apply.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Both people in dating take
risks not just men. Anytime you open yourself to a new person in your life you're taking a risk of being hurt, of being lied to, of being used or played. Both men and women face these risks.

[jerdanro]

That is a fantastic, well thought out response. I also prefer more detail, but it is difficult to go deep into a subject by typing in a phone app. I think face to face or at least phone conversations help communication dramatically.

[jerdanro]

I also want to point out two things. Obviously men are no more carbon copies of eachother than women are. And men think, feel, and experience the world differently. When you talk about emotional complexity it is important to understand that men are less complex. This is show experientially and there are anatomical differences that may account for it. Female brains have a much larger corpus colosum (spelling?), the structure that connects and integrate the left and right hemispheres. Therefore it follows that reason and emotion are more integrated in women. For me personally and I believe men in general, reason and emotion are almost entirely separate and at odds with one another.

[Quaintrelle]

One of the major turnoff when it comes to men is that most of them just want sex from the other person and nothing else.

People of both gender are capable of sharing & creating memories in so many ways but it is like many just want to stick to 1 way and leave others as non existent.

I understand that not everyone does it and they may have their reasons for indulging in what feels good or fulfilling to them but to me it is one of the biggest turnoffs.

I want a man who will appreciate what I am as a person and let me explore him without any filter. Like we can be ourselves with each other without having to pretend and that the conversation flows flawlessly. Like we don't need to put in heavy thinking or effort in communicating with each other. It feels as natural as breathing.

Another important aspect is growing together. I know I am not perfect and I know he won't be too. We can work towards our betterment and explore parts of life together. Like learning a new hobby or dressing each other up or trying a new travel destination or restaurant. There are so many things to do in the world, so many ways to make memories that if we just get into a relationship and just get used to it and become monotone, at least 1 of the person will leave. Trying out new things & new experiences keep the couple together.

Another thing is that he should be financially capable. I am not against working in the world but I am more interested in raising the kinds and finding ways to enrich their life in their childhood and teaching them things that aren't taught in school. I don't know exactly what makes me happy as of now so I don't have anything specific for my career but yeah may work part time or freelancing. It's not figured out. This is important from family's perspective too.

Communication is another thing I would want. Like talking and listening both. And since I am a reader, writer and learner I will have different thingsand questions popping up in my mind from time to time. If he isn't interested in the topics that I feel interesting or if the feels like 'why are you even thinking about it' then we won't make it too far because those things mean a world to me whether it be something in the past or a castle or the burger that I tried last time or the gadget that is innovative or that dress that made me look like a princess.

Looks are something that really matters for few. I agree, it has certain impact and honestly we females can easily apply makeup and conceal our blemish or flaws but men cannot really do that. There is no foundation available for me as far as I am aware of. I don't put much emphasis on looks provided the above things are present. When it comes to body weight, we both can work out together to shape ourselves up.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Doesn't sound like too much to want, ask for in a partner...

[Quaintrelle]

These things are important because they form a foundation of the relationship. Because without them the whole relationship will fall.

Yes, there are negative traits that are to be checked too.

A mild domination is ok but everytime telling me what I can wear or not and stuff like that is unhealthy. (Had a college friend whose husband was against applying lipstick because that made her look attractive).

Manipulation is always a no go zone.

And other things like lifestyle, likes, dislikes, habits and stuff can only be known by connecting in real life and what feels offending or ignorance or what feels like a gesture of love and stuff.

[ShadezMcgee]

I will say that I don't know what they want. I will base my answer on where I am now from listening to dating advice from men and women. I have found truths in both sides, but if I were to be honest I had more success listening to men who have more experience in this department, not a knock on women, again my experience.

The two dating coaches who I will say had the most credit to my success would be Coach Corey Wayne and the other being Apollonia Ponti. Both of them emphasize self love and growth to attract what we want in life and in a partner. Corey's got two books that are available for purchase and free to read on his site. How To Be a 3% Man and Mastering Yourself. In the first he explains how he got to where he is in dating and failed concepts and notions of what men do or think is right in attracting women and how to go about screening women out and attracting them properly through authenticity and values. He says you need to read the book 10 to 15 times to know it inside out and practice what it teaches in order to get results.

Apollonia is the same way in the sense that she has courses for purchase and a podcast to go along with a YouTube channel. Her methods and talking points and concepts are similar to Corey's. Self love and having purpose in life is what will bring you the partner you want.

Now from my experiences in dates since investing in that material has gotten me more results than ever growing up. What I know for sure is that women are more emotional and live in the moment and love to have fun. Have no expectations when going in off the bat to get a feel for chemistry and see if something comes with a date or so. Women respond better the more attracted they are to the man based on the 1 to 10 scale that fluctuates depending how you carry yourself based on Corey's teaching. If you do everything right, typically a woman will ask the question "what are we?" Around the 8 week/2 month mark. This proved to be true when I met my girlfriend. All I focused on was setting up dates when she reached out and kept the conversations short until the date to have things to talk about and have fun.

He bases principles on the three H's. Hang out, have fun, hook up. Of course this applies to women you are interested in and women you want to hook up with, depending on your values.

Biggest takeaways. Love yourself first. Have purpose, goals and direction in life. Define your values and boundaries when you are dating to screen out women that may not be compatible. Watch a woman's actions over words. Be a rock, calm and collected. Be willing to walk away and lose it.

[ShadezMcgee]

Also wanted to add clear communication as well, but ran out of room.

[razelove]

I agree, and it's unfortunate that you have to be mostly geared towards the hook-up culture, but that has been my experience with dating as well. For every dozen or so women I meet, date, and get to the point of hooking up with, I'll find one who I actually see again after a night or week to have a relationship with for any period of time.

That isn't from any lack of desire on my end to have a LTR, simply the dice throw of "will we get along?" followed by another for "how well?" and another for "how long?"

I've always looked at it as a probability game where unfortunately you do have to be a player to find the woman you want. You can meet the "perfect girl" at the wrong time and things fade, likewise meet someone you could never have considered being with at the right time and move into the future together.

Desire and love are unpredictable things. You can only roll with them or suppress them.

[ShadezMcgee]

@razelove exactly, I hate that aspect too. I don't like the fact dating or finding one you are compatible with has to fall in line with hook up culture to a degree when in the end it boils down to choice.

Unfortunately you only have small a window as well when it comes to keep a woman's interest pending attraction. Women tend to get more attached to a man when they are intimate with them and sex is the big one because she is most vulnerable. Sexual chemistry could be good or bad and that sadly can be a dealbreaker for most. Find out early save the heartbreak down the line or find out after investment and time. Pick your poison really.

[JSmuve]

Wow, there's quite a lot to unpackage here on so many levels. But before I do, scrolling through the answers, I don't think too many people have followed your instructions very well! They're just dumping all over one another. Such is life on this war-zone of a site. I have to break this up and put stuff as a comment because it's too long for GAG's response box.

Anyways, guys think this way because they've been fed so much contradictory information by both men and women that they become tunnel-visioned in order to come up with some model of understanding. Any guy who has interacted with women younger than 25 knows that a lot of them are emotional headcases, not to say that guys are better, but that's a different discussion. Hell, look at all the girls on here who admit to having bad anxiety and depression. There's so many! These younger women don't necessarily know what they want because they haven't experienced enough. They might know what they respond to but not necessarily know why they respond to it. As they mature, though, then things become more in focus for them. Same with guys too. But because of this, a lot of dating advice from women is very vague. You hear things like "be yourself," "make her laugh", "be confident", "treat her like a queen"; things that, may very well be true, but by themselves aren't helpful to guys and can be damaging when not given proper context. It's why a lot of guys who do this, when they don't see any results, they wonder "what the hell? I did everything women say and I haven't seen any progress" while they watch the women they want be with guys who, ostensibly, are doing the exact opposite of what they did. This is largely where the notion that women, particularly younger, more emotionally immature ones, don't know what they want.

Guy's advice to other guys is more geared at being practical and is based on their experiences; what's worked, what hasn't worked. It's not just the what, but also the why and the how. But one has to be careful because not all women are the same and just because guy A did something doesn't necessarily mean guy B can replicate it because they're different people with different personalities interacting with different women in different contexts. So guys' advice is equally but necessarily vague in order to adapt it to different situations. But, as always, the devil's in the details and a lot of guys can get bogged down in all of the nuances that they can't really develop an adaptable level of "game".

[JSmuve]

I think it's very important for both guys and girls to recognize that each sex has emotional needs that they need met in order to feel loved within a relationship. I never realized this concept until I read about it and thought more about it. But, I don't think either men or women, are really aware of what these needs are and I think that's the crux of the issue. Men don't know what women's emotional needs are and women don't know what men's emotional needs are. Hell, I'm not even sure we know what our own emotional needs are until later on, after we've experienced enough and have been introspective enough. So if we don't even know what each other's needs are, how can we even address them? How can we give proper advice? And if one gender were to tell the other what their needs are, would that gender even listen, or would they scoff at it because they either don't want to accept it or because they're resentful that they'd have to become something better than what they currently are?

Anyways, I'm rambling. My opinion is I think a lot of women want a masculine guy; someone's who confident in himself, who'll pursue them and romance them and make them feel desired, who knows what he wants, but has his own life and is not afraid of walking away because he's not dependent on a woman for emotional validation. He wants to be with her but isn't afraid of cutting bait if she's not the right one. They want a guy who's calm but can make her feel a range of emotions and be a steadying presence in their lives. They want him to make her feel safe and protected, both emotionally and physically, and accept them for themselves; flaws, baggage, and all. Some women want a guy they can grow with, others want to latch onto a guy's situation and take advantage of his success.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Thank you for following along. Yeah most didn't but that's because they really don't know if really give good advice they just show more bitterness and bias. B But the way people responded still proves the point. These aren't the type of people to get real relationship advice from...

[coachTanthony]

I know what women want... drum roll please...

SHOES they want SHOES! :+)-

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

🤣🤣🤣 not all women I hate shoes cuz I have big feet😂

[coachTanthony]

Socks they want socks Ha

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Lololol come on, no tips from the dating coach🤔 lol

[coachTanthony]

What a woman wants only she knows so my tip would be... how about you ask her?

[KatherineJ]

I did someone say shoes? 😍

[TonyMetal___86]

@Brainsbeforebeauty he isen't aware that your a sasquatch miss brains 👹

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@KatherineJ 🤣🤣

[Cynicaldreamer]

No. Not even close 🤦‍♀️
Other than running shoes, I hate shoe shopping.
What an archaic stereotype. You of all people should know better sir!

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Cynicaldreamer 👏👏👏😂

[Shihab91]

Only god knows 😅👀

[coachTanthony]

@Cynicaldreamer Well women should also want to have a sense of humor. Pffffffft Yeah that too!

[coachTanthony]

@Cynicaldreamer "What a woman wants only she knows so my tip would be... how about you ask her?" You must of missed my real answer.

[Cynicaldreamer]

@coachTanthony Well I have a cynical sense of humor, so there!

[Cynicaldreamer]

I saw it... still felt like giving you a hard time for a (fail) attempt at being a smartass

[coachTanthony]

@Cynicaldreamer Oh i don't know... 8 likes and a downvote from you and another ANON is pretty good!

[Cynicaldreamer]

🥱 Do better Coach

[Shihab91]

😂 the gag ladies are too harsh today

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Shihab91 We must all be PMSing🙄🤣🤣

[coachTanthony]

@Brainsbeforebeauty That is terrible and so cliche. PMsing? I just want to go on the record here and let everyone know I was NOT thinking that. LOL

[coachTanthony]

@Cynicaldreamer Brains might be onto something... hmmmmm

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@coachTanthony it was sarcasm lol

[Shihab91]

🤔 wow all of u at the same time? I'm leaving to Facebook until this is over 🏃😂

[coachTanthony]

@Brainsbeforebeauty What is sarcasm? Oh my initial comment that some didn't take as sarcasm but as archaic display of toxic masculinity. LOL

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@. coachTanthony No lololol @Shihab91 said "the gag ladies are too harsh today" and my reply was sarcastic that we must all be PMSing isn't that what some men say if a woman shows any emotion or attitude🤣

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Shihab91 What makes you think they aren't either🤣🤣🤣🤣

[coachTanthony]

@Brainsbeforebeauty Yes I agree I understand you are being sarcastic because yes it's cliche for men to say that lol I know I know

I was just poking fun because my comment too was "Sarcastic" but was taken as Archaic. Many women love shoes... I know not ALL women do lol but I would say most women I have dated have more shoes then I have socks underwear and clothes. So to your point.. it's in the ether of society that women love shoes as well as they must be PMsing in certain circumstances. I got it! I follow ya!

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

So Women are running around in their closet full of shoes PMSing🤣🤣

[Shihab91]

International day of pmsing?

[coachTanthony]

@Brainsbeforebeauty I would imagine the closets are big enough so yeah LOL That's sarcasm people don't down vote me.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Shihab91 don't know does that include the men who get pms too or act like they do🤣🤣

[Shihab91]

Equal rights equal pmsing 😏😂😂

[Ironic_Method]

I actually was an ops manager for ROSS once upon a time.

Women's shoes was like 30% of our total revenue.

[coachTanthony]

@Ironic_Method No doubt!

[OlderAndWiser]

Many women think that if they simply tell a man whet they want and he then gives it to her, it is meaningless. The only way it has meaning is if she gives subtle "hints" or speaks in code and he goes to the trouble of deciphering the message and then produces the desired result. So I think it is understandable that some guys conclude that women really don't know what they want.

[Lionman95]

Let say that way if dating wasn´t at least in some parts a mystery most people wouldn´t be single but in relationships. If dating was easy there would be neither a market for dating apps nor for any kind of dating coaches.
The way I see that many young men grow up not really knowing what women want. Some guys get in relationships when they´re young but because they got there more by coincidence than really planning something long-term it ends pretty soon.
But there is a growing number guys that has never been in a relationship for a couple reasons. These guys want to be in a relationship but they don´t how. So they turn to other guys that either are in a relationship or have been in relationship and seem to have better experience.
So the guys looking for a relationship either take them as a rolemodel or they ask them directly how they did it.
These guys are those you´re describing. They tell the searching guys that a woman would tell them that she´s looking for a man she can trust, have a good time with and a guy who has a life and organized life. But they will also tell them that´s what a woman tell them but there are things that will take for granted like for example that he has a high salary that he´s not smaller than
6'1 and that he has muscular arms. She might not say that but that´s meant by "a man she can trust and have a good time with". So our young guys that have none or at least no good experience with women are intimidated and stop there search because they come to the realization that they are not meant for dating. The guys that give such advices to so because they are either egoistic and want to throw young rivals out of the dating game or because they experienced it themselves.
These kind of advices might seem poor from a female of point of view but it´s some guys experienced that and they are spread in some ways by social media, too.
Because if both genders were totally honest neither girls nor guys write down their full expectation under a question like "what do you expect from your S. O.". Most comments I´ve seen haven´t been longer than 10 sentences and most of these expectations are rather just concentrated on the body, most are concentrated on character traits. Let´s be honest though if a rather unattractive person has all those qualities in most cases he/she won´t be chosen either because he/she might be seen as unattractive.
To sum up, I think the biggest reason is why those guys spread these advices is because they feel like they should. They´ve made bad experiences and they don´t want other guys to feel the same.

[ohshee]

Well that's the best part about women they are all different, , so I have to say I don't know,, what they want, all I know is what I want for a women or what I a offer. The only thing I can offer her is a good foundation I want her to believe in me and that I am capable and I will take care of her I will keep her safe and I will show my love everyday. That I love her for who she is because that's what made me fall in love I want you to have confidence Within. I want her to be one person I want her to be independent at the same time knowing that she can always count on me. I want her to know we are equal, I want her to know that she can wear the pants in the family as long as I can get into then without a combination or key.. I want her to have a great heart did she can look into somebody's eyes and see if there's something wrong, and not put the person down for it or act as if she is she's better but I want to hear to help and do something about it because that's who she is. I want. Her to believe in herself and not be afraid Take On The World for something that she believes in,, I really don't know what anyone really wants , all I know is what I can give , and if for some reason I'm not giving it then take me by the hand look me in the eyes and say , what ever it is you need to say to hear you

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Great great answer!!! I hope more men not only read this but let it sink in 💯

[razelove]

Yes!
https://youtu.be/851BqHMCaeM

[Citizenkirk]

We think this, because women have conditioned us to, through generations of men doing the wrong thing all the time, women getting pissed off at them, scolding them for not doing the right thing, to give us endless, neverending grief,

for screwing up in the first place, and then lying to them about not knowing better, or having a clue what they are going on about, which earns us a tirade of rage🤬, because now we don't listen🥱😴 to them, on top of trying to dodge responsibility, buy claiming that we didn't know, because we're just stupid men...

and they don't tell us anything anyway, except to let us know when we screw up, and add insult too mystery

, er-- I mean injury 🤕🩸, by "pretending" -- "not ever knowing" -- what is on her mind, even though she never tells him what's on her mind, and never explains to us men why we're supposed to know these things that are never shared with us, because mock ignorance, is supposedly, yet another malicious attack or mind game we ♂️'s inflict on them, on their respectability and sense of feminine♀️🧟‍♀️ social🐊🦟 decorum♀️🧟, and frankly, every single time we try to convince the woman that we don't know what's going on, we get the classic "If you don't know, I can't explain it to you!" 🤯!!! -- which no explanation has ever been given, as to how we're supposed to know things that no one's ever told us, and that's never been available in any kind of written text that we've been made aware of, with the librarian at the public library shaking her head in disdain at our ineptitude, for thinking that we are entitled to such information in written form, or verbal form, for that matter, because she's one of them♀️🧟‍♀️♀️🧟♀️🤦‍♀️, and we♂️😑♂️🤕, just don't get "? it?" apparently,😫 or according to them women we do get it and we're just being jerks on purpose pretending that we don't get it because disability, er -- I mean ability, 😒yea, 🙃right🤨? [π÷♂️= "🤡💞🤦‍♀️🧨💒💥🚑" or

"🖕🐂💩♀️♂️!!!" that we have that women insist we have that has never been explained to us how to use it whether it's psychic ability or something else maybe it's genetic information passed down from mother to son or something I don't know maybe women are telepathic and men are and women just think that we are receiving those messages that they think we're receiving when the only messages are brains are processing most of time is beer pork rinds and football, or in my case, hockey, on Sunday morning T. V.
We 🤔 we can't 🧐 know, if they don't explain things to us, so we just assume that we must know the right answer, because the women assume that we know the right answer, so they must know what they're talking about, so because women insist that men know what's on women's minds without ever giving them a clue, we just have to take their word for it that we have some kind of innate sixth sense, or psychic ability that tells us what women are thinking, even though we are not consciously aware of it because women keep telling us that we should have this unexplained situational awareness, and every time we screw up, they tell us we know better, therefore we must be doing it on purpose "😶🙃😑TILT!"
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And -- ♂️🤕♂️😶♂️😑♂️⚕️♂️🚑♂️🧨♀️💥💞⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️⚕️🚑
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cuz nothing -- better than being together, to hear us singin --"
5 of us '🐤🐤🐤🐣🐥' and mom '🐔' working all day, we knew that we could make if our music '🎸':could pay '💸,'" --
then we got Ruben '🦃,' to sell our songs🎵🎶,"
and it all came together🤬💥 when mom🕊️ sang along!"
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[Anonymous]

It's because we notice a very clear difference between what women say they want and what works for us. Let me give you an easy example, because I just found my old dating profile in my emails. I saved it because after a lot of tweaking it was an absolute masterpiece.

I won't post the whole thing but here's the beginning, because this was the part which drew the most attention:

"I'm not here to find a date or sex. It's much harder for me to find a girl who can keep me interested in the long-term, but a profile here won't hurt.

If that sounds arrogant - it is. Go and tell someone who gives a shit. There are plenty of desperate, soppy guys here who'd love your attention.

That should weed out the easily offended and the fat entitled feminists - good riddance!"

Then I went on to describe myself a little bit, and listed all the things I'm not into. In that list things I actually didn't mind but knew many women would do I mocked e. g. women who dye their hair a different colour to their natural colour, purposely to offend them.

This profile got the most replies of any profile I ever wrote. My girlfriend of 8 years replied to it. Before this I had to send a lot of messages out to get a few replies, with this I didn't have to send any messages out at all.

Would you ever advise a man to write something like that? Of course not. It sounds terrible. You'd advise him to be humble, positive, humorous, nice. Ask any guy how well that works. I purposely wrote it to sound like a cocky, arrogant prick and to trigger emotional reactions in the women who read it, and that's exactly what it did.

Then all I had to do is turn that into a positive. Women react emotionally - something you girls don't like to hear. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. You can't get a girl to feel emotions from indifference, but you can more easily turn negative emotion into positive emotion.

Another example: I used to be the typical "nice guy". I genuinely respected women, and just wanted a nice girlfriend. I wouldn't talk about sex. If she said she wanted to take it slow I'd be 100% okay with it. Usually she'd say something about being tired of players.

Things seem to be going good and then a few weeks later she says she just wants to be friends. I'd find out in many cases that she had sex with some other dude and fell for him instead, after telling me she wanted to take it slow. I'd stay friends with them regardless, and they'd eventually get cheated on or something by that guy. Then they'd come crying to me that they want a nice guy like me - but not me.

They'd repeat that cycle over and over again. I don't mean one girl, I mean loads of them.

Noticing this, I just became like the other guys. I became more of a fuckboy. If we didn't have sex by the second date I'd be on to the next girl. The ones I did have sex with would want to be my girlfriend. Sometimes I'd find out there was another guy they were "taking it slow with", I'd swapped places with him.

Women will say that they prefer the guy who respects taking it slow and hate fuckboys. When I was the nice guy I got friend-zoned, when I was the fuckboy I got women wanting to be with me.

It's really as simple as that. We base our opinions on what we see actually works, all based on personal experience.

[Jamie05rhs]

I disagree with the path you took, but I do not condemn you for it. Everything you said makes perfect sense.

[Lliam]

Women are like children. Men are like parents who know what's best for them.
😮😮😮 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't send the angry mobs with torches and pitch forks to my house! That was sarcasm.

In all seriousness? Men who say things like the examples you gave: "women don't want the truth" or "women don't want a man who shows emotion" are morons.

I think women want truth and honesty, but not in the form of brutal honesty. That goes for everyone. Hurting people is never productive. But tactful honesty, when it is accompanied by genuine regard, is appreciated. That's how healthy, two way communication works.

No woman ever said that men shouldn't show emotion. I don't think they want insecure, whinny, woa is me guys who wear their emotions on their sleeves. They want men who are courageous in the face of adversity. They want men they can depend on for safety and security. But they also want a man who is secure enough in his masculinity to share his feelings when appropriate; to be vulnerable, caring, passionate and compassionate; to display joy and sadness. Guys who act like robots are actually damaged and insecure.

I would never presume to know what all women want. That's stereotyping. If I want to know what a particular woman wants, I'll ask her. We can discuss it to be sure that I understand what she means. But I'll assume that she is being honest because I respect her.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

I tried to call the angry mob back but couldn't contain them, sorry but you know how triggered we get🤣🤣🤣
Great answer, agree🥶🥶💛 LOL

[Lliam]

Women are so emotional. You can't say anything without offending them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

That's it!! reported🤣🤣🤣 joking people🙄

[2018life]

hmm... I smell stereotypes with a faint hint of salt... and a sprinkle of a fight that might come on soon caused by the offended...

[ChrisMaster69]

I hang with a bunch of girls n guys (mixed sexualities), we are always giving each other dating or relationship advice and other friends lol.

I would always listen to a girl on advice about dating a girl, acting on it is a different matter.

my main advice for anyone is to find out the type of person you are planning to date, then adjust your strategy for that specific person. That includes, clothing, places to eat, etc.
This does not mean changing who you are, I’m me, I can’t really change being a gobby Geordie, but I can play up and down the social ladder etc.

The more information or advice I get the better I am at dealing with situations.

each person wants, expects, is looking for something different.

in real life (non social media), it comes down a lot of the time to being open and straightforward with a person who will gradually find out who they are actually dating. Go too far off this at the beginning and you will become single really quickly.

Each woman knows what they likely want, the fun is getting this out of her (or her friends, or her family) and then providing it too her, ideally in a way that appeals to her personality.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Nice answer... But what's a gobby Geordie? Lolol

[MasseurDeMojo]

Most men are made to believe that they are able to give a woman what she needs, and already have the knowledge.

That is a lie. It used to be that men would talk to women, and learn what they liked, and what they needed; then they would do what is required to meet their needs in and out of the bedroom. They were not worried if they would get her in bed; they were worried that they would not know her well enough to take care of her needs.

In the Late 70's when the women's equality movement went into full swing; they began to tell men, they should already know what they need, and how to take care of them. This started a snowball effect, that we are paying for today; where men do not understand women, because they know longer talk to them, and ask questions. They have even forgotten how to properly please a woman to the point where she will be begging for more. A side note: if you were new to sex back in the late 1890's, all you had to do was pick up a Webster Dictionary, and it would tell you in detail everything you needed to do to be effective; it even told you how to properly prepare a woman so she would be able to squirt, and clean everything out by doing so, before you went all the way. Just a little fun fact!!

Conclusion: Men have forgotten how to talk to women, and need to be given back the right to be men i all things. Chivalry is almost completely dead. It is the one thing that had men talking to women, so they would know how to take care of them, and what they needed!!!

[CrazyGirl2]

Well, when it comes to being asked out, I want a man who is dressed like he actually cares about how he looks, neat hair, clean fingernails, and well groomed (even if he’s going for the “unshaven” look) it should always look nice, with clean shaven lines! As for his attitude: A man should be polite, confident (never cocky), with a great sense of humor, and he should know what HE wants, but not assume he knows what I want! Most of all, a man who recognizes that going out with someone we just met can me very dangerous for young women. A gesture to show he cares about my feeling of safety like offering to show me his ID so I can tell a friend the legal name of the stranger I’m going out with, can go a long way to forming trust!
I like a man who can communicate, and one who is not afraid to show his sensitive side, or even cry at a sad movie, but not one who’s crying all the time. I like a man who is careful with money. Not a show off who throws money around, or constantly brags about how much he has. I’m going to be a clinical psychologist, I’ll be able to take care of myself. I’m not looking for a man with money, and certainly not one who flashes it around like a badge of honor! Im perfectly happy going to Mickey D’s, Dennys, or IHOP for dinner, if it’s because he’s saving his money for a downpayment on a sensible new car, or even a house! To me, any guy who is pouring good money after bad into things like “new rims” or basically anything that makes the crappy little car he drives, go even faster… is a child, and while I absolutely want children, I absolutely do not want to marry one! I want stability and maturity! Who cares if he has the fastest car in town, if he still lives with his parents? Like I said, I will be more than capable of supporting myself, I’m looking for a partner, not a boss, or another father, and certainly not a twenty-something year old child, who can’t even be trusted to not blow his entire paycheck before Monday! Mostly, I want a gentleman!

[NathanDavis]

I never needed to know what women wanted... what I really needed to know was myself, and to know myself the best I could, which is what I did, then I understood what I had to give, what I could do, first... for myself, and then for others.

When it came to women, I had no plans... I had an open mind, gave myself and them the actual chance to get to know another for who we really are and can/could be.

So I don't go around telling people I know what women want, I can only share some of my experiences, and all of those are based on my actual experiences with the 4 to 9 women I've actually been involved with.

The best I've learned is that we're all different, so of course all women are different, even in their similarities, things can go a bit or entirely different because there will be other factors involved and not just her personality or character, so... no, I still make no plans and/or pretend that I already know all there's to know about women.

I see you as a person, your own person, and I see you in the moment, this moment of our lives. Experience is very valuable and that's what will give me the best chances to be able to recognize and also discern so many things, but that's a guide to be used as reference, and NOT as a rule. There are no rules by the way, not strict ones. We people are quite complicated, so the best thing we can do is to show actual and genuine interest, to pay attention, to observe, and then try the best you can... to engage with that someone you're sharing a moment with. So then you work the best you can with that someone, and the rest is just life happening, as it always will. Life happens, always be ready for that.

[razelove]

Women want a reliable man who will be their rock. Younger or older, you can still get women without the looks or money, but you have to be dependable. Say what you mean, mean what you say, and be aggressive as far as the things you want are concerned.

Of course, looks and money sure as hell help a lot, but you won't hold on to anything without that core of integrity and knowing what you want and chasing it. Most people don't know what they want. When you know what you desire and are actively working hard to make it reality, that attracts other people to work towards that and other goals.

To figure out women, figure out yourself, and other people a little more first. We aren't different species after all, just by and large we differ on how we try to achieve our goals. Avoid post modern feminists too unless you're a guy who is a masochist. That's part of knowing yourself though, and if you are a masochist, do it to it.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

THIS HERE!!! great answer!!! 💯💯❤️👍

[razelove]

Why thank you, is the bot after you or me? I'd imagine we've both pissed some people off... lol

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

🤣🤣 you if she a female bot lolol

[razelove]

Oh well, I'll take the hate as a badge of honor. Lol, just like downvotes on "women want an honest, dependable man who knows what he wants." You are individuals, so there is no one size fits all, though for a broad definition, it's what both genders look for, a partner they can rely on who isn't arbitrary in their desires.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Exactly!!!

[ShadezMcgee]

Agree completely. Well said.

[Kas19]

Do you mind explaining why you don't like "modern feminists"?

[razelove]

@Kas19 Yeah, no problem Kas, though let's agree that this won't become a shouting match first. Previous generations of feminists and civil rights activists fought for an idea which I find beautiful, equal opportunity. Yes, after becoming law there were institutions that didn't abide by that, though today you'd find them as the exception rather than the rule as you would in the 1970's. Their work is admirable, especially with the risks they faced.

[razelove]

The ideas today are just disgusting to me, toxic masculinity, false rape allegations with the idea of guilty until proven innocent and trying to codify that into law, the body positivity movement teaching that living an unhealthy lifestyle is an admirable thing, sex positivity that is leaving more and more women single mothers having their first children in their late 30's to 40's. Add into that the idea of equity rather than equal opportunity and it's an abhorrent school of thought to me.

Being white is equated as a privileged sub-human (kind of a paradox there), having a penis the same. Not allowing your children to take body altering chemicals until they are adults as criminal.

Modern feminism is not just damaging men, but long term women as well. Look back 20 years and you have pushes to actually help women in terrible conditions around the world. Fast forward to today and it's older women with wealth pushing these agendas in privileged countries. You are 20, so much of that damage is something you won't see personally for another decade. Simply ask around to women in their 30's, how many of them are single, what the standards are for the men they're looking for, and how much of their 20's they spent fooling around when they had a realistic chance of getting a man close to those standards.

There are many more damaging areas than that, but to leave so many men and women in a position where they will die alone because of an artificial divide based on fear and the illusion of infinite choice is simply disgusting. I'm more than happy to talk about these things if we can have a civil discussion. We may be offended by each others opinions, but it does not mean that communication is impossible, yeah?

[2018life]

some do, some don't; we're all different just like you

[TurboKid]

I'm in this camp that thinks men are generally better at offering men advice but primarily because men tend to be the ones that have to ask women out and charm them over the dates. I find too many women giving very passive advice like, "Just be patient and you'll find a special someone."

Some women might excel just waiting around and doing nothing more than looking pretty and standing around while guys approach and they select among their suitors, but guys who aren't rock stars usually need to be more proactive than this, and it takes some degree of skill: boldness, assertiveness, confidence, social skills.

So usually if you have a guy who is struggling to get a date, you have to spur him into action. You have to tell him to act more, twiddle his thumbs less, be bold, take risks, and do it with some degree of consciousness as to what they're doing, paying attention to the woman's body language, and basically do it with some degree of skill (which tends to require practice for all but born-naturals). And I find a lot of women do the opposite encouraging them to be more passive and "genuine" (which is not a bad idea but a shy/timid type who is struggling with dates won't understand that he's being disingenuous with how he holds back his true thoughts and his passivity), and that doesn't work so well for guys.

[TurboKid]

Women also sometimes give hyper-romanticized advice... which can work well in a rom-com film but not so well in real life, like suggesting a guy who is crushing on a girl (and possibly without her having any idea of it) to buy her flowers and confess her feelings to her. And that's an extremely risky move. As a guy, I'd just suggest he talks to her more and asks her out in an easy way: a confident but light way that is as easy for her to refuse as it is for her to accept rather than declaring his deep love for her. Every once in a while the latter way might work, but far more often I suspect it doesn't, and worse, it makes everything so incredibly awkward for the girl if it's not the guy she wants to be doing this.

[TurboKid]

So with all due respect, I think women often resemble the armchair quarterback here. They don't actually successfully ask other women out or sweep them off their feet. Some guys do, and I think they offer the best advice for men.

[TurboKid]

Let's flip the script though. Let's say we live in a hypothetical world where it is, instead, the norm for women to ask men out, and plan the date, and charm the man while he sits in the metaphorical passenger seat being all impressed by the woman who asked him out. In that case I don't think us guys would offer women such good advice on how to date men either, since we'd probably give them more of a fantasy or a wishlist than practical advice on how to succeed asking men out.

[TurboKid]

I somewhat exclude myself though when I say men generally give better advice since I was far from a rockstar with women. I did all right but there are better men than me out there when it comes to success with women. So I'll offer the basics like being bold, assertive (feel free to disagree with a girl (don't just try to tell her what you think she wants to say), confident, don't be timid/shy, ask her out in a simple way that doesn't resemble any love confession or marriage proposal, etc. But if they start asking way more questions, I'll suggest they look around nearby for a guy who is very successful at this and ask them for advice... and get less advice from rom-coms, their mothers, and overly romantic female friends and acquaintances: get advice from people who actually do this and succeed rather than people who just talk without doing.

[TurboKid]

Lesbians might be an exception. Some of them do frequently ask other women out, and charm them, and seduce them, over dates. But I still think the dynamic between a more active woman charming and seducing more passive women is different between an active man doing that to a woman. So I still think the best advice follows success. But at least lesbian women put their words into action (assuming they're on the more active side that asks the other one out and plans the dates and so forth).

[glowingsunsets06]

Well for starters I want to be able to trust them. I want them to be able to be vulnerable with me and know that I won't judge them at all for it. I want someone I can laugh and play with without them taking it too serious but at the same time they can be serious when needed. I want someone who really likes cuddling and hugs... other wise they'll probably get very annoyed with me pretty quickly. I want someone who'll just be them self around me , if I fall for you I want to actually fall for YOU and not someone you're pretending to be.

Anyways that's all that really comes to mind
I'm gonna go work on this assignment now <3

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Well said... And yes, go do your homework

[glowingsunsets06]

Thanks !
I am.. Lol

[Celtero]

Right... rather than play this game I'll just explain it to you.

Women AND men, some of them at least, are very lacking in self-knowledge. They're just not very introspective people.

So here's a good analogy; If I ask someone what they want to eat, they'll stop and think about it. Their real favorite food is sushi, but since they just saw a commercial for pizza they'll tell me "pizza." We get pizza and suddenly they remember they don't like pizza all that much.

Same goes with asking people what they want in a partner. They'll just think of "good" things to list out rather than reflecting on their relationships and thinking about what sort of things make them happy.

Women do this more frequently and use it as a form of virtue signalling. They'll think "what virtues are looked up to the most?" And from that, they'll say in a partner they want them to be smart, and kind, charitable, loyal, and trusting... Even if in reality what they desire most is a man who is dominant, jealous, muscular, or apathetic.

Alright, if you've stuck with me this far I'll play your game. I'd say, according to women, what women desire most is a man who is decisive and strong willed, confidant, affectionate, funny, charismatic, empathetic, and passionate. How's that?

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Well you still Stereotyped) lumped women as the same, and still after like they don't say what they really want...
For instance, I wouldn't never want a jealous guy, I was married to one, my first husband who was jealous, controlling and would physically abuse me. And dominant in the bedroom is one thing, but someone that thinks they can dominate/control me or everything I do or say, yeah that's a big no... Instead of assuming women lie about what they want in a man try listening, getting to know them instead of going by assumptions of what you think women do...

[KatherineJ]

I’m not sure that this answer will adequately address the question, but here goes...
My (now) husband and I were set up on a blind date by mutual married friends. What was I looking for? Those friends to STOP nagging me that I needed a boyfriend! What happened? I figured out that I enjoyed his company. He make me laugh, think, and express myself as I am-not as I thought he wanted me to be. At the same time, in him I saw a man that wasn’t perfect, but kind, considerate, and really amazing in so many ways-oh, and did I mention that he is gorgeous?

[KatherineJ]

*made/makes me laugh*

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

So, what got you was he allowed you to be yourself, accepted you for who you are and he was himself without trying to be what he thought you wanted? Do I have that right? Well, and he gorgeous🤣

[KatherineJ]

@Brainsbeforebeauty yep, that’s what worked for me. That first date was only to get those friends to leave me alone, but here I am married to him. ☺️
I probably would suck at giving relationship advice, but the only thing I can say with absolute certainty is that accepting the other person as they are is probably a good place to start.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

I disagree. I think your ass a happily married woman would give better advice than angry, bitter, single guys...

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

*as not ass🙈

[KatherineJ]

@Brainsbeforebeauty thank you. My experience is accept people as they are. That’s it. I can’t really say that I know what I wanted, until I got it.

[noob__master]

THE HUSBAND STORE

A store that sells new husbands has just opened in New York City, where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates.

You may visit the store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the attributes of the men increase as the shopper ascends the flights. There is, however, a catch: you may choose any man from a particular floor, or you may choose to go up a floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building!

So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband...

On each floor the signs on the doors read:

Floor 1 - These men have jobs.

Floor 2 - These men have jobs and love kids.

Floor 3 - These men have jobs, love kids, and are extremely good looking. "Wow," she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going. She goes to the fourth floor and sign reads:

Floor 4 - These men have jobs, love kids, are drop-dead good looking and help with the housework. "Oh, mercy me!" she exclaims, "I can hardly stand it!" Still, she goes to the fifth floor and sign reads:

Floor 5 - These men have jobs, love kids, are drop-dead gorgeous, help with the housework, and have a strong romantic streak. She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor and the sign reads:

Floor 6 - You are visitor 3,261,496,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store.


THE WIFE STORE

Floor 1 - has wives that love sex.

Floor 2 - has wives that love sex and want a family.

The third through sixth floors have never been visited.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

But see here's the problem with people these days, they take jokes and act like they're reality... It's one thing as a kid to think everything on TV and in the movies are real... But if adults are going to base their lives and relationships on things that aren't real, well good luck with that... Oh and that joke is old another user out that in a take like a year ago🤣

[noob__master]

I have listened to countless women when stating what their partner needs to be, act like and financially have almost repeat this exactly for many women this is their reality

[Ez-Bri-Z]

As a woman who also dated and married a woman I can tell you this much about women and it is the best advice I can ever give when it comes to dating:

None of us are exactly the same so stop treating it as a one size fits all.

I personally love humor and honesty as my top priorities. Many other women may agree with me, but have different ideas of what they find funny. For me, I am a sucker for bad puns and dad jokes. That may not be the same for others.

You want to know what it takes to attract a woman? Get to know THAT woman.

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

For a group of people that all like to think of yourselves as individuals you sure say the exact same things, word for word, over and over again as if it’s a script.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Then maybe one day you might get the hint that we are all individuals but as a collective group we are tired of having to remind you of it 😊

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Great answer!!! And also great reply...👍👍

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Thank you very much 😊

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

Usually a sign or individualism isn’t saying nearly the exact same thing that every other one of you says.

But hey, I’m sure basic computer programs don’t realize they are basic either.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Oh lord...

Ok, let's see if I can make this simple for you.

I have a red crayon, ruby red in fact. It's pretty, it's bold, it's great for coloring fire hydrants and stop signs.

I have a best friend who is a blue crayon. She is sort of moody. She is good for coloring water, but not that great at stop signs like I am. She prefers to stick to sad things.

Now, we are all crayons. We are mostly all the same as far as general design with some differences but each of us have both unique and similar functions. Sometimes our colors can go over the lines and blend into other parts of the picture, because sometimes life is messy like that.

Now as individual crayons we have our own use, but if you come along and tell us that we should all be used to color the same parts of a picture then we might disagree. As a collective voice we can say, "hey no! We each want to color our own parts. There are some things that we like to color more." If you keep insisting we keep coloring the same spot in the same way then our voices get louder until it all sounds like one voice trying to make you understand that we aren't the same.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Love this reply!! But he won't understand because he doesn't want to try to understand because it goes against the bias he had against women

[Ez-Bri-Z]

One can only hope that the comparison works for someone out there to help them understand then. 😁

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Hopefully, just don't hold your breath unless you got 911 on speed dial 🤣

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Lmao. At least the blue in my face will match the blue in my crayon analogy.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Hahahaha🤣

[Anonymous]

Okay, lets give it a shot.

I think there are a lot of factors and experiences that go into "what a woman wants".

The 'bad boy phase': Some girls love the bad boys, there is a factor that woman find appealing (the danger, etc) from these guys.

The 'pretty boys or rich guys': Next is getting the trophy guy. The Mr USA with his good looks or getting the CEO of some big company. The glamour, fame and life style is appealing. The fast pace, fancy dinner parties, hanging out with 'the people'.

The 'nice guy': When you drop it into the long-haul gear. You need someone who treats you well, no real fuss. You hunt out the average joe who ticks your boxes.

Daddy Issues: Grouped together you also have "daddy issues" (it's not really daddy issues, but family issues, mom issues, etc.). Typically you seek out someone who is similar to your dad. If your dad was abusive you tend to go for abusive guys. This is simply because you are trying to overcome the abuse. If you 'fix' the guy, you loose interest and move on to the next (i. e. a cycle of it). Sometimes you can cut out of it and find 'the nice guy'. This doesn't only apply to abuse, but any emotional thing you had as a child.

So all in all, at the end of the day. What you want is something I can only tell you once I get to know you.

[loves2learn]

If you want to understand the female mind, listen to another female.
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That said, I’ve developed a great respect for the male POV since joining this site. I’m understanding it more than I ever have and feeling bad for the times I denied my husband sex. I wish we had worked on the emotional component and communication sooner.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

I agree have to get understand a man's point of view as well. The ones that are really looking for understanding and looking to understand women as well as be understood. But not the ones that are just trying to spread bias and hate. I get men have been hurt by women, but also women have been hurt by men... People have been hurt by people... Showing falsehoods and hate isn't the answer. Learning to communicate, try to understand, empathize and learn to get along , respect and live one another

[loves2learn]

I very much agree. Communication and understanding both sides without the hate and judgment is key.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Agree💯

[jerdanro]

I agree with both of you. I also believe that some men give incorrect advice based on their experience, but not in a hateful way.

[loves2learn]

It’s true. Advice that’s naturally skewed by their bias.