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Like don't men enjoy looking at women in revealing clothes? Why do men complain about women looking slutty or whatever if they enjoy it? Even if they dont enjoy it they could just look away and not complain about it đ¤
Well for them there's two type of women the whore who dress sexy and with whom they enjoy having sex with or sexting them and the relationship material who need to be modest and who they "respect".
Basically they love using the sexy girl for pleasure but don't respect them and treat them like shit but still love using them, it's so crazy and confusing. I always get creeped out when guys say im a good woman and different from all other "slut", those give off such predatory vibe.
Its all because they want sex and love. They can get pove and childern from a woman they think is good and they want sex from a woman they use. Why to blame woman why not to blame a man. Men play games to each of them and disrespect the other one. So he is the real culprit.
@Sweety_Torneeya Yes, some have a messy ways of thinking
@alice55 @Apple1996
I kind of agree with you here but to understand what men want, I know it's a cliche and perhaps no woman gaf but here goes, men want to have the sexpot in private and the mother/wife in public. Online is a private way to get access (at least visual) of a fantasy and wouldn't want THEIR romantic partner doing stuff like that for the attention of other men.
Men would like a woman who was that way for THEIR eyes only.
Depends on the situation.
My Girlfriend at home? Perfect she can walk around sluty 24/7, I would totally enjoy it. Your exclusive Girlfriend Walking around with revealing clothes at home: Good
If she is wearing revealing clothing outside, why does she want attention from other people? Your Exclusive Girlfriend walking around with revealing clothes outside: NOT Good.
For women that I don't know and that are wearing revealing clothes, we end up I a problematic situation.
If she WANTS the attention: Good.
If she DOESN'T want the attention from ME, because I'm not her type: DANGEROUS for a Men, because if the wrong women sees it that I'm looking at her or if she is filming herself on TikTok I might be labelled a "creep" or a "predator", get arrested, loose my job, loose my reputation, etc, etc. this are the times we live in today.
Problem is, I don't know what women want me to look at them and what women don't, because they have no signs on them to explain who is allowed to look and who is not allowed.
So that's why I don't like women wearing revealing clothes in public anymore.
Because you don't know if she want you to look at her or if she doesn't or if it's a trap to film you on TikTok and ruin your life because she just wants some more likes and more viewers for her TikTok account.
In the past (before social media) women with revealing clothes either wanted the attention, attract a Guy (or girl) or they were just on their way to/from someone who wanted the attention. And they accepted it when you looked at them, just politely said "no" to your advances, just smiled back or were happy about you looking at them.
Today with social media? If you look at the wrong women: "Off to Prison you go!" And you get filmed on TikTok while the cops arrest you just for looking at her without even saying a word...
Bc men are stoopid and can't control themselves when they see a slightly underdressed woman:🤯🤯
its really quite stupid, women should be able to wear whatever, granted it doesn't reveal genitalia (i would say breasts too, but like, they arnt genetalia and in some places you can technically go around topless as a woman i think. I personally would consider that public indecency tho)
men just need to learn to deal with it. Its *their* problem if they can't handle seeing a woman in something, not on the woman. (Gender bent example) Its like if a woman had a problem with a man wearing a tight or small shirt, and told HIM to go change bc its distracting HER. This is basically what happens to many women, and its disgusting
This is beyond naive.
@KrakenAttackin how so?
If you have a problem with the way someone dresses, maybe the problem is youđ¤Ą
It's not. If you dress like a $2 whore, the problem is yours.
16 years old đ
@Kingofkings1992 and still smarter than youđ
Sure thing buddy
There's such a thing as TOO REVEALING, which looks trashy. While that might get a guy to look, it won't get a guy to stay with you.
For example, I went to a party with a guy friend of mine over the holidays. He's nice looking and so he immediately got a lot of female attention. So I told him, look, we're just here as friends. If someone catches your eye, please feel free to go talk to her. I'll be fine.
You know what he told me? "Look, not that there aren't a lot of nice looking women here, but... well... you're the only one I'd be comfortable taking home to meet my family, you know? There isn't another girl here I could say that about."
Guys might look at a slut for fun now and then, but they don't want to bring a slut home to mom.
@Apple1996. EVERY man categorizes women like this.
Dressing modesty is showing respect for the relationship.
@DishLady thank you. This lady gets it. @Apple1996 take notes
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Because those men are insecure and do not want their girlfriend or wife seeking attention from other Men , if she isnât his partner , then he doesnât like girlsâ that flaunt themselves seeking for attention, when a girl wears revealing clothing some men assume she is an attention whore that uses men for her own selfish benefit , they assume she isnât trustworthy and that she doesnât have good morals and values , Sadly we live in a judgmental world with a shit ton of judgmental people , just they way this world is. All we can do is just live our lives the way we choose to and fuck what other people think or say about it. I love girlsâ that wear revealing clothing that looks good as fuck on it , I donât mind her flaunting her body , even better if she is coming home with me 😊
Just the decency to respect themselves in public, it's a form of mannerisms cause they are also the same people that for example go like "why are you looking at my boobs?" Which would be understandable if 2/3 of her boobs wasn't popping out of what was designed to cover them.
How many women go outside dressed revealing really deep down believe no man is going to look at what's revealed, I believe a big part of the answer to your question is because men are treated like they are to blamed completely for looking when a woman chose to dress showing off her body like the public is suppose to revolve around her
But is it tho? If some dude walked around with my balls out and you took a look because of the abnormality or just instinctual attraction or even just cause it being in public just made you turn your head and look and the ball swinging bastard told you to stop looking, who would you blame?
Yourself?
Cause I'd surely blame the bastard with his balls out đ
His*
The only difference here is the gender switch, equality my ass smh
Then maybe you are a bad example, I still believe if you witness another woman stare you'd blame the dude and his choices tho
Yea and there's always that option to stare cause you can and cause it's right in front of you, there's no way around my point that the accountability for this goes to both
I can't say I understand the height comparison here either but rn I'm more stuck on why it's valid for people to claim my body my choice to cut up babies and throw them away and people are suppose to suck it up and consider it normal but the line is crossed when a man uses his body his choice eyeballs to look at another person body part that a woman did as her body her choice decision to publicly show off those body parts, it's results on top of results of bad decisions from both people, not just one
Where are babies being cut up? Are you conflating foetuses with babies?
Why not conflate people with foetuses or pensioners with them since that's the line you're following.
A baby is a fully functioning being that can carry out the necessary functions of life just like a toddler, teenager, adolescent, adult, pensioner. A foetus cannot.
The height comparison shows the standards where women will judge a man on something that they cannot change and not have any interest in them but a man who judges a woman who dresses in a way to attract attention will then complain that they get attention (something they CAN change).
Just cause you end the cycle of a growing human before it forms doesn't make it any less justified, if you had the choice youd choose to live same as any other form of life just cause it can't comprehend that decision doesn't make it any more just to chop them and throw them away, I don't see your point and clearly my point flew right over your head, something you are very good at is going off topic, your height insecurity has nothing to do with my opinion or the topic of the askers question, you could've simply created your own opinion to yap about your insecurities, why are you interrupting my right on topic conversation, my point stands, my body my choice should work for both genders if it's going to work at all, what's your point? That you are short and angry?
My point is that if I choose to stare with my little eyes I think I have every right of staring at something that's right infront of me and I don't see why I should be judged for it if a woman chose to dress and go in public a certain way, it is my fault for staring but it's also her fault for dressing the way she did, if I'm gonna get judged for staring she should get judged for her choice of fashion in public
Well apples since you are familiar with women's clothing what's more expensive, a T-shirt and long pants or one of those exotic designed styles clothing cause wouldn't it be easier to buy a pack of 5 shirts or do women not have those đ
Is poverty really the lead to women dressing more revealing tho? Cause I always thought the exotic looking stuff was more expensive than normal casual women's clothes, I look at some bras and stuff walking by a shop and I think they charge y'all more for the less clothes lol
Well that's cause all that Chinese stuff is expensive to import lol I mean at a normal shop đ
Besides I doubt all these women are poor, and that's what's making them dress the way they do, it's far more likely they want to attract a mate or a good time than their wardrobe being very limited.
Well then I stand corrected, I believe you, now be honest with me, do you truly believe their fashion choices are based on their limited wardrobe? Or their comfort, some of the stuff they wear actually looks far less comfortable than any pair of jeans, im excluding you tho cause I know where you stand but Im asking you about your opinion on other women since you most likely understand them more than I do
I've never heard a woman complain about the comfort of sweatpants or a baggy shirt tho, or even a normal T shirt
So the possibilities of both of us being right are highly possible, fair enough
I've to remind myself that everything I do will make men act in a certain way. I need to contain myself, so men don't misbehave because mens behaviour is on me, not themselves.
- this is all I got from your little rant about women being responsible for mens actions.
- I as a bi sexual woman can see a woman, with minimal clothes on and still not stare her down, I often see men just wearing shorts and I manage to not stare them down. If I do stare someone down, it happens - not their fault or the fault of their clothes but mine.
Guess we are build differently after all, I as a woman am responsible for my behaviour and I'm responsible for the behaviour of men.
You clearly didn't read enough cause you got wrong, reread and get back to me
Actually keep rereading until you properly comprehend what I said cause I feel like it's gonna take you more than one run to properly comprehend the point I'm making here
I did read it. And you're saying that it's women's fault that men state, they should just cover themselves up. I must admit I did jump over the abortion discussion. How you people made clothes into a abortion question is beyond me
No I said it's both of their faults, clearly you skipped that part, selective comprehension is scary, I know what you are trying to do here, you are trying to twist up my whole argument to make it sound sexist to then avoid full accountability, it's not my first rodeo
I did and you outright write that they share the fault with you in your behaviour. That it's on them that you stare.
Its his fault for staring, her fault for wearing something that makes things visible, if she didn't want to be stared at she wouldn't wear it, you really want me to believe y'all walk out the house believing nobody is going to stare, I'm not that dumb
There you go again - blaming her for his actions. "Had she just wore something else he would not have done x"
And I actually started covering more up the older I got (not that it helps I still have men staring and at times commenting on my appearance, guess that is my fault for not wearing a burka) and I do struggle during summer time since well it's hot and if I don't fully cover up, it's on me when men make me feel uncomfortable.
- I started covering more up despite of LOVING wearing cute dresses and knitted tops I've made but showing skin is a no no.
Im not talking about you there's women that cover and I believe its a form of mannerisms so to be clear I'm not talking about you specifically but be honest with me, you are telling me her dressing revealing isn't an action? You can miss me with that one sided crap honestly cause even tho men are guilty of staring which is 100% their fault for staring, women can't avoid that if they wanted too by simply covering up more, there's no other reason to show that much skin if it's not for attention, it's either they want attention or them being stared at doesn't really bother them as much as they claim because like women like yourself you cover up cause you have the mannerisms and respect for yourself to not use your body to amuse the public right?
I wish being stared at didn't bother me to the extent where I wore what I wanted that specific day and I'm fucking glad that there are women (and men) out there who don't give a fuck. You know how we could avoid being stared down by men? If men fucking controlled themselves and stopped staring. There are PLENTY of men out there capable of doing so, why men like you have to defend those incapable is beyond me. Geez, guess a lot of men don't respect themselves during hotter seasons - wearing shorts and often no shirt.
I cover up because of men who can't control themselves and men like you that defend them.
Tbh, I'm actually lying through my teeths here. I'd not wish I could wear what I want because:
IF I could, I'd be walking around naked 24/7 now that I think about it - clothes are actually annoying and as it is, I'm naked as much as possible.
I don't even stare at women's body parts but seeing it from the third perspective and I'm well aware enough to know that its not a one sided issue, there's two solutions to that problem and it involves both genders making a specific decision, women taking any form of accountability for anything is impossible I give up, agree to disagree
I'll do what you do "I'm not talking about you but men", isn't that what you've said to TWO women now, you're not speaking about us but women?
You may not do it, but you're defending it and putting the blame on the woman and then have the audacity to say it isn't a one sided issue and so far your solution has been only one: women should just cover up because otherwise they're just asking for it "and we all know it".
And yes, let's agree to disagree that mens actions are not women's fault. And I wish we could all understand that so I could wear the beautiful strap tops I've made in public.
Agree to disagree
Lol, just agreed to that but fair. đđ
@NordicInScandinavia If they KNOW men will stare and don't like it but do it anyway then why do i? Aren''t people allowed to stare at things they like?
I went to a part of China where there have been very few fair haired blue eyed people and guess what? They stared. I knew they'd stare and it wasn't at the clothes I wore, it was at what I looked like. Did I get self conscious? Sure I did and did I feel threatened? Not exactly but uncomfortable yes. Did I know this would happen? Absolutely. Did it stop me NO. Did I get on my White supremacist Horse and claim these barbarians were sub human and disrespectful because they stared at me? Nope I did not
@Shiprex and THIS is why I stay fully covered as much as possible at all times. Then no one will EVER question if I "wanted the attention or not". Sometimes wish the burka was socially acceptable and for everyone. Would fix SO many issues. (Because it's our fault that those men can't oogle away or keep their comments to themselves)
And well, I've been to countries where I was approached because of my skin tone, did I cover up, ABSOLUTELY, despite of being close to heat stroke, I wasn't merely uncomfortable, I had times was out right scared. Did that stop me from doing stuff, absolutely, I barely left my parents side because I feared the interactions I was faced with even in their presence. Which I only had to deal with stares but men don't only feel entitled too oogle down want they desire.
@Shiprex also, why you making everything racial? Why is it that I, despite of being attracted to women am capable of controling my gaze around something I find attractive while (or even repulsive) you seem to think men are incapable of doing? (I know men are capable, I know plenty of them) And no people shouldn't be staring at other people, it is rude asf.
@NordicInScandinavia Men are capable of doing so but you are complaining that they don't. You want to control their behaviour that doesn't actually hurt you because your feelings are more important that theirs. They may look, and that doesn't hurt anyone. YOU are the one "feeling" disrespected, uncomfortable and don't like it. Their feelings are that they like what they see, want to look at it and that society expects this to be deemed bad.
I used the racial experience I went through and many others who've been to countries where white people aren't seen often and are a novelty so people WILL stare and not bother you in any other way but western women want to control men's natural behaviour because they're self centred nature has made them feel entitled to complain so they can get their own way.
If it doesn't hurt you ignore it.
Dirty looks from girls are something boys have grown up with but do they complain about it? NO they get ignored and told to "deal with it", "man up" and all the other toxic dismissal feminisation has brought about in western culture.
Why? If you are flaunting it, men should be able to look with criticism.
@Shiprex Oh so NOW men are capable yet it is on me when some men can't. Gotcha.
And it you say so, let's just pretend you know what I complain about and what not. That it often is not JUST looks is what has completely gotten passed your bean brain. I don't mind men looking (anymore) as long as it is done in a polite manner.
That you think you're completely irresponsible for others in the same social settings as you, and can behave in any way you wish regardless of those there is not on me.
And again, did you skip the party where my white ass went to another country and where it wasn't just looks. Or did you just happily skip that?
Oovgling women down is NOT natural behaviour. Stop acting as males are more sexual then women, we're not in the god damn 1700 century here.
At least you merely deal with looks, we had to deal with "boys just being boys" and "that's how they show they like you" had they pulled hair and were assholes.
@Shiprex
But I'll just end it here. I see men are naturally just incapable of controlling themselves and we women just have to learn how to cover up so that they can because if we don't it's on us. We need to accommodate for those you and those men who's "natural behaviour" interferes with them being decent human being who thinks about others around them.
Hej hej.
@NordicInScandinavia
I see you've fallen down on the feminist ad hominem retorts but that's common because you feel entitled to be treated like you're on a pedestal.
No one is forcing you to cover up. YOU choose what suits you. Just as vegans may CHOOSE not to eat meat they have no expectation that meat products won't be advertised all around them, in every eatery and on media EVERYWHERE just because they choose that lifestyle.
Being decent is subjective and a cultural sociological construct that you've gotten used to. That those around you should treat you in a particular way because of your gender. Like I said, I KNEW when I went to rural China (and now I recall also in rural Zimbabwe 30 years ago) where people stared at me for being different to them.
What you can do is ignore it just as how common average everyday men are ignored throughout history because dying in wars, occupations, food production etc, for the good of civilisation to provide for those "stuck in the kitchen" who feel oppressed seems to be where you're missing a choice you have been given.
Or you could take as a compliment and work with it instead of feeling oppressed by it.
You're choice
Hej dĂĽ!
@Shiprex i don't want to be treated like I'm on a pedestal.
And yes, men like YOU are forcing me to cover up because you're blaming ME for the unwanted attention I get because I might wear something that might attract men and they do NOT just leave it at looking at "giving a compliment". Again, you deal with being LOOKED at, I speak about behaviour that goes beyond that because men feel entitled to shit because of a dress code and that means shit. Again something you completely ignore over and over again.
You're right, I can just ignore men like you. Thanks for the best advice I've gotten here.
"Take what I want you give you as a compliment or else". Some males just be beyond reach.
And don't know what the fuck men oogling down women as they're nothing but things for their pleasure, that all they do revolves around them "oh she is dressed in a way I look,. she must be begging for my attention", how that makes women uncomfortable and how it is not on the woman for a man not being able to oogle the fuck away gender roles and missing chances
Like fuck. Can you be more of a assumption riddled asshat making up shit about how I might feel about several of issues because that fits your idea on who I must be? You sure you where traveling anywhere 30 years ago because you act like someone who hasn't reached that age before.
@NordicInScandinavia You seem entitled to control the behaviour of others that you may exacerbate or attract. People like to look at things that appeal to them. That's natural. What YOU'RE projecting is your interpretation of the intent behind that.
What difference is being stared at in a foreign actually dangerous country for people like me, there that you being at gym in a developed safe country where you are put on a pedestal (against your will) as the general consensus is that straight men are deemed predators, creeps, rapists, worse than wild animals, until they can PROVE otherwise. Or is that men being centred and put on a pedestal (call it a target for media and the ruling feminist class)?
@NordicInScandinavia YOU'RE saying OGLING which is subjective and how YOU interpret it. Like I said IGNORE it. Do what most women do to most men ALL the time and ignore it. That you notice it is on YOU that you care about it is on YOU. IF they act on it THEN there's a problem and one of those invisible men will likely step in and make it THEIR issue thus creating a scene. You are aware there are plenty of gyms with women only spaces to workout? And they pay the same membership fees as men but have EXTRA spaces for them to work out in.
I've made zero assumptions about you only that you're an affected feminists who sees themselves as deserving of special treatment because you're female and that you resort to the usual feminist trope of throwing ad hominem insults around when challenged for your entitlement.
Like I said should vegans force advertisements of meat products and menus to have no animal flesh on display in their businesses because they CHOOSE to have that lifestyle?
@Shiprex again, missing the part where I've been out in the world - to fit your agenda.
Again, you're PRESUMING how I behave or act and I'm sorry that women being wary around their surroundings (because even in this supposedly safe place 3 out of every 4 women have dealt with unwanted and often horrible experiences with MEN) and that means you and your presence isn't celebrated or wished for at all times.
I am fortunate enough to know men, that understand WHY women are wary until they're sure of being in a place with a safe person isn't a target against THEM personally but simply a safety measurement.
So I'm aware that not all men are predators,. creeps, rapists and whatnot - I'm aware that men CAN be some of those things and sadly those that are do not walk around advertising it. I truly am sorry that me taking measurements into my safety and speaking about them effects your ego and feelings this much. You're telling me that if I don't want attention, I should just cover up - because if I don't I'm asking for attention and when I say I do exactly that, I'm "entitled and playing a victim". Truly can't win with men like you. (Note I said men like you, not all men because unlike what you believe then I'm not a man hater)
@NordicInScandinavia I have not said to cover up that again is YOU projecting. I have said IGNORE it like you have done to all the things I have said. I know women have an issue being around men, oddly enough it's men THEY KNOW who are the actual most risky ones for them in this context but YOU'RE projecting that ALSO onto other men at the gym AND ME for that matter as I use multiple gyms around where I live and ignore everyone there until they approach me because I've got my own workout to do. You should try it.
You know there are lots of women who go to gyms and dgaf about men around them and just get on with their workouts without bothering about others or being seen/watched (ever thought it could be because they're NOT gym experts and looking for inspiration or how to work machines/exercises if you're any good at the gym?) because they're doing good workouts and get support when needed from them.
It's maybe not even what you wear but that you're attractive and appealing to look at and that covering up wouldn't make a difference. Imagine that scenario but you'd prefer to seek to control the behaviour of others to make yourself more comfortable rather than ignore it and BE yourself.
@KrakenAttackin I think you're right but she does seem to have a bee in her bonnet about this.
@NordicInScandinavia Bro, you are totally feminist indoctrinated. If a woman walks around mostly naked I'm going to check out her body, even if she pretends not to like the attention.
@Shiprex
"If you wear something that attracts attention don't get upset when it attracts attention" - this be you ey? Meaning, if I don't cover up and I get unwanted attention I shouldn't get upset because it's on me for wearing something that attracts attention.
I'm aware that those happens mostly in close relations, but close relations ALL start somewhere - they're not all close to begin with. And someone who's dealt with both the close encounters and stranger danger - men not giving a flying fuck about how their presence and behaviour is effecting others is scary as fuck and I'm again so sorry that this is something that hurts you so greatly.
I cover up to AVOID unwanted attention, yes there are times where men, thank the fucking goodness, care about how they effect others and will be gracious of it being unwanted but there are times where that does not happen and I again am sorry that we are not capable of predicting what outcome comes before hand. Not every bad encounter that can indulge fear and uncomfort results in rape or murder.
You want me to be myself and comfortable, yet you and others sit here judging women for being something you dislike in women - and for having low self respect because you find them indecent.
Which by the way,. women showing skin isn't that rare and doesn't really stand as much out as you make it out to be with your little "I was looked at for being white 30 years ago for standing out".
@KrakenAttackin
That I'm not no. "Every single woman appreciates and seeks my attention", yeah sure dude. And you think I'm off the bat.
@NordicInScandinavia YOU're the one claiming it's unwanted yet you do it. If you dress or look attractive or different or anything PEOPLE MAY LOOK and if that makes YOU self conscious that's a YOU issue not a they issue. Deal with it.
You seem oblivious that MEN are more at risk of actual stranger danger by a factor of about 3 but we don't go making it about because we are men and criminals will decide to stab or beat us to death instead of leer and shout obscenities because of course that's just the same
death/disfigurement for one = discomfort for the other.
You KEEP putting this character on ME which I have given you ZERO fucking sign of how I am because you have this self aggrandising entitlement that thinks men should bend to your wishes because you're female. GTF with that bullshit. I dgaf what women wear at the gym as long as they clean the machines after using them and don't start filming themselves there for likes and attention. You want to be put on a pedestal. Men should be "gracious" and think about how you feel around them yet you aren't prepared to consider men who do like looking at women but are deemed creeps and shamed for it. Like I said there are gyms where there are women only spaces. Use them instead of bitching about public gyms.
For my experience it was STARED at by dozens of people curious and interested in two separate parts of the world and one where I could have been seen as a meal ticket as a white tourist where there had previously been attacks and robberies. But yeah of course men's lives are meant to be expendable as is their liberty and freedoms because women are so sensitive about being looked at when they don't want to be yet will go out of their way to LOOK appealing (just for themselves of course not for anyone else) and complain that they get looked at when out in public.
Make it make sense
@NordicInScandinavia I think women are obsessed with attention which is why they wear skimpy clothes. The issue is you want attention from certain men and not other (less attractive) men. When "lesser" men look at you it pisses you off, but that's the consequence of dressing like a cheap hoe.
@KrakenAttackin whatever you say mister "every woman is looking for my attention and appreciate it"
Lol, you be a thick one huh. I don't wear anything remotely "skimpy" because of disgusting males like you. đđ
Fuck, you be a turd. Have s good one mister ballsack, you being to emotional. , đ, đđđ
@NordicInScandinavia Wow, that's a lot of angry projection.
@Shiprex that is the thing I do NOT do it despite of maybe wanting to because of men like YOU, Chicago and Kraken.
And no, I'm aware that men should actually be wary about other men too since men but that was not the discussion. Again, unwanted attention does NOT need to result it fucking rape, death or shit like that.
Yes, I can't wear what I want because if something happens to you, men like you will blame it on me,. That is NOT something I'm putting on you, that is something you put on yourself.
@KrakenAttackin thanks for the laughter here tho. Fuck I love when men like you speak your ass off with shit and panda because you got your feelings hurt. đđđđđ
When you smarten up, come back yo me - I know that night never be but now I'm just done. đđđđ
Bye there mister ballsack.
@KrakenAttackin not at all there mister ballsack. Thanks to men like you I'm as covered up as I can be. Have to make sure the primitives can handle being out in public, a little skin might make that hard on your kind. You can't control yourself and it's simply by nature.
@NordicInScandinavia You poor baby, you seem so oppressed.
@KrakenAttackin oh, speaking more out of your ass there.
It be annoying as fuck that I can't look my best out without my partner by my side because of dickheads like you 3 but nowhere have I said I'm oppressed mister ballsack. I'm sorry you're so emotional.
And I find it kinda funny how I'm not allowed to complain and be upset if I get attention when wearing skimpy clothes BUT I'm not allowed to do zo either if I cover up. Because that upsets you guys.
Can't win here huh. I simply should live with the behaviour of males, and ignore it - they can't be any better than they are. Natural behaviour and all. It's like growing up, "if the boys are picking on you, they just like you" and "boys will be boys". đŻ
Exactly right.
@NordicInScandinavia Men will GIVE you attention if YOU choose to appear in a way to ATTRACT ATTENTION.
YOU'RE trying to BLAME men for NOTICING something that is attractive to THEM.
Then you bring up rape and molestation which is nothing to do with LOOKING. That level of projection is for outdoor cinema screens and is an obnoxious leap of disingenuous misandry because LOOKING does not equate to RAPING and any fool can see that the people who would rape aren't doing it because of what is being worn but because it's a power trip.
YOU on the other hand are seeking to control men's behaviour because YOU feel you should be allowed to do and look as you please and that everyone else should bow down to YOUR ego of "sensing" unwanted attention.
The whole being blamed for criminals behaviour is YOUR weird as fuck self centred mindset that tells me you still haven't broken out beyond adolescence.
@Shiprex THat you COMPLETELY ignore that, and to up your emotions and "hurh hurh hurh".
I don't mind the LOOKS, it's FINE - however it doesn't ALWAYS stop with the looks and it doesn't ALWAYS have to result in RAPE for it to be and feel unsafe.
The whole thing is that YOU tell me that unless I cover up, I'm not ALLOWED to be upset about the actions of others BECAUSE I'm showing something they like.
That is the whole thing here, that I do not wear what I wish - because IF something happens, who's fault it is, is questioned based on what I was wearing in that cicumstance.
@NordicInScandinavia Where tf do I BLAME you for what happens to you? I blame the fuckers who carry out crime. Do you think I blame myself for being drugged, robbed, SA'd by a gang of women (in another country) when out with friends? Or do I hold THEM accountable and want justice to sort them out?
Or the people who put me in hospital when I was jumped, thrown on the ground, kicked in the head multiple times and could have been killed? Do you think I felt responsible? NO I Wanted to go and kick the shit out of those fuckers because I knew where they lived.
You need to put down your victim flag there's a hurricane brewing.
And I'm fricking sorry that it isn't plastered on your forehead - when you be safe to be around or not, when you're not going to be nasty as fuck or you going to be.
Now I'm sure that no matter what, men like you can't blame what happens to me - based on my outfit. I can be rightfully upset, if someone does something I dislike - because I'm covered up.
@Shiprex
If I just covered up I'd be good.
No victim flag going on dear. Just aware that men like you are around, where mens actions and behaviour can be blamed on me.
I felt responsible when abused, raped and assaulted because well, "what did you wear" and "well maybe you were seeking attention", you know - your logic.
And I'm sorry, I'm no longer a victim and never been because you told me to put it down.
@NordicInScandinavia You're probably good all the time covered up or not. That you will get attention either way is likely if you're in a public place. THAT'S normal.
NO ONE BLAMES you for rapists unless you rape
I have been the victim of drugging, robbery, SA by a gang of women and do I blame them or me? I blame them just as the police did even though there was video evidence NOT A FUKING SINGLE CONVICTION of the 4 of them OR the taxi driver who aided them. SO was it my fault? NO theirs 100%. What I was wearing had fuck all to do with their motivations I was with about 20 other guys who didn't suspect a thing. 2 of them also got done over. SO save your "woe is me" and women should be on pedestals and treated as royalty.
@Shiprex no worries, I'm fully covered up so according to YOU I am actually allowed to be upset but not really.
Are we allowed to be upset at all by anything or do we just have to suck it up and take into account that "men are just men and can't help themselves"
Gotcha. I'll treat all men like they primitives who can't help themselves around females.
@NordicInScandinavia I am saying you SHOULDN'T be upset unless someone physically harms you.
You're doing what a lot of women do these days and ignoring what is being said to them as they've got an emotional rollercoaster running in their mind that has a preconceived notion of the world that they want to control others around them
@NordicInScandinavia
Using emotive words doesn't strengthen your case. Entitled to give you attention isn't the same as seeking to get your attention. That you are being approached in the first place is a sign you are attractive and you should be proud of that and have the confidence to deal with it. If people approach you act with dignity and a firm no is your first response. If persistent then ask someone around you to help and you know there will be a man nearby to step in as social experiments show time and again when a woman is in a distressed state, MEN will rush to her aid whether she knows them or not.
@NordicInScandinavia Wow, you are a total mess.
@KrakenAttackin yes thanks to your kind, I am sadly. (And again, I know not all men are like you guys, thank the fucking goodness for that)
@NordicInScandinavia Who hurt you?
@KrakenAttackin many have. First one molested me at 9 and blamed it on me for wearing a night gown to bed, just like all of you are blaming mens actions on what I might or might not wear.
He just couldn't help himself. Shame on me for not covering up better, he like you - blamed his actions on what I wore. I know it was all my fault, the rapes and assault afterwards too. I'm to blame for it all.
@KrakenAttackin I agree with you all now.
You 3 and the men who have victimised me. I'm responsible for every single of those things.
@NordicInScandinavia none of us have victimised you. We've tried to educate you and empathise with you because some of us have also been SAd and left for dead in the street but you read that in spite of it being the same as having your agency and safety ignored and being taken advantage of through abuse. Just like you experienced and for YOU at least you KNOW which men are most at risk (the ones closest to you) and you can expect to have someone come to your aid should you need it in an emergency. Could you say the same for any many who finds himself in need of assistance whether from a woman abusing him, or a criminal beating, robbing, stabbing, or shooting him? They all are awful wicked experiences to endure and heal from.
You weren't responsible for the abuse you went through as a child and that should have not happened. How you move on from there is up to you. Continue to hold a grudge against men who were not responsible and would probably put themselves in the line of fire from a criminal should we see you needed it while NOT expecting anyone to do the same for us.
Because men hate a unfulfilled tease. If you had a boner and were unable to use it on the object of your desire, you might start to understand.
Some tasteful cleavage is fine, but if you're wearing a lacy bra in public with a revealing top like the photo you posted, it's really frustrating for high-testosterone men.
@Apple1996
keep doing what you're doing then, wear revealing clothes and talk about how much you love giving BJ's lol
@marish01 Men want willing and available women. If she is stuck up or too chase, then it's not really worth the effort. Apple has a couple kids, so we know she puts out... for someone. Haha
Ho's always be Ho's. They badly need attention or something. I bet if no one looked they would be pissed. 🤣😂
to be frank, literally they're just judging a woman hard from head to toe with double standards. Guys can be upset and fuss about a girl wanting liberty of "my body, my choice" but I am sure they will be feeling the same if a girl be judging them from head to toe. The "height" topic pisses them so much yet when "boys will be boys" to judge a girl on her size, outfits, wandering eyes w/no respect, and etc.
people should honestly just chill and mind their business esp when they're just strangers from a far. I really don't care about what others do except if that's my family and friends.
No clue. I can't wait for warm weather & summer to come myself because of the fact that I sometimes want to dress sexy. It also helps people see me as a woman because I'm petite. I dress nicely pretty much every day, but I do get tired of having so many layers on just to stay warm. Summer weather just has so much more options. And I want to get more dresses too.
Exactly. And we love some of the attention as a confidence booster, ain't it?
@thatsavageblonde I mainly do it because I'm feeling good & love my body. Nobody ever bothers me, so I don't have to worry about creepy people (plus, I'm always with someone in public).
Ofc we gotta love our bods hon :) Occasionally when I feel sexy, I feel an adrenaline rush through my bod loving it.
I would say that I would never commit to a woman who shares her nakedness with other men.
Women who do this are just proving they are not girlfriend material or wife material.
Foolish men pursue these women and complain that the women aren't honorable or respectful or loyal and try to change their floozy ways.
Those dumb men have problems with it because they try to turn hoes into housewives or GFs.
In reality men should just avoid these women. Don't ever commit to or attempt relationships with these women.
To me, it's a self-respect thing, yet ironically is partly why a lot of women wear revealing clothing. I just see it as attention-seeking behavior for the most part and to me, can say something about the person. Of course, it depends on the context, outfit, and person, too. Sometimes it makes sense.
Also, sure, it's attractive, but I don't like seeing it and again, it's a self-respect thing. I judge men the same way too and that includes trying not to look, as it's basic common decency (control, too).
I don't understand it. I've heard men complain about a woman in a thong bikini at the pool... Is it really that much of a difference to see a little more butt cheek? Everything "important" is still covered up.
I'd much rather wear short shorts or a speedo on the beach and be comfortable than wear more conservative swimwear and be hot and uncomfortable
I usually just see a butt as a butt. A thong isn't the worst thing you can see at the pool or on the beach. Same with someone's butt.
@PBandJ_Nerd i guess seeing a bit more skin of the buttcheeks offends their puritan values or something lol
@Still-alive They probably wouldn't like my butt then, because even if I wear regular bikini bottoms, my butt wants to turn it into a thong, and I won't even notice. LOL But I kind of don't care, really. I have swim kini shorts & then a pair of swimming trunks if I don't want to deal with it. But it really all depends on what I want & feel like wearing for swim days.
@PBandJ_Nerd sounds hot hehe. i would say their loss!
Good question. I would say there are various reasons from guys being just conservative to guys prefering women that keep their bodies to themselves as a mystery so that he´s motivated to chase her and getting to see her in revealing clothes is the prize.
The former complains anyways as a way of clothing that doesn´t meet their expectations is too revealing. While the later complains as sure they enjoy seeing a woman nude but they would enjoy more if they had to do something to get to see that.
So they complain as seeing her showing herself off takes away his motivation to invest more as he already gets to see most of what he´d like to see.
Because some men know its a ploy to call attention to yourselves.. yet a lot of women say they dress revealing for themselves but you wouldn't do it unless you wanted attention. I dress in baggy clothes to not draw attention to myself. If I know men like to see skin and woman's body parts why would I dress like that unless I wanted them to look. Then woman blame men for treating them like hoes when they are wearing a hoe's uniform lol.
Yes but you know men look so why not cover up?
LOL excuses.. I get hot easily I can still wear hoodies.. its just for attention because you like feeling wanted by men.. else why do you post lingerie pics here asking the losers to rate you LMAO. Why lie about it, woman are so weird about this issue themselves? If I want attention I dress revealing if I don't I cover up it seems pretty straight forward.. lol
The one I seen it was of your ass.. no bump in sight.. lol Plus pregnancy is just a natural thing nothing really great or beautiful about it. And yeah you don't have to wear a hoodie you can wear light fabrics and still not need to have your ass and tits out lol.
Mhhmmm.. yeah I'm sure plenty of perverts think it's so beautiful LOL
What makes pregnancy beautiful? Especially when it isn't your baby, why is seeing someone elses pregnant wife beautiful?
It's the creation of life. A literal miracle lol. And men are naturally suppose to like how pregnant women look when it's not their baby because it's the biggest sign of fertility (the thing they're most attracted to) so they know the woman is fertile enough he could impregnate her next
Okay.. so literally they are supposed to want to fuck you.. and yet you say it isn't for attention.. lol Men only like pregnant woman because they can fuck them raw without the chance to knock them up lol Most men are not attracted to pregnant woman especially their own husbands..
Fertility can be beautiful even if a man didn't want sex with pregnant women. And that is just not true. It's literally just nature at work for men to want to be her next baby daddy. There are also tons of benefits to sex during pregnancy so it's probably something to do with that as well to keep mom and baby healthy/have a healthy birth. Sperm is litterally like medicine to pregnant women lol swallowing to prevent certain health issues and it softening the cervix. Also the whole orgasmic birth stuff.
Apple you are crazy LOL
It is an inherent contradiction that we don't find a contradiction. We quite like easy sex with an anybodies girl. Great we got our dick wet and are happy about it.
At the same we are not going to marry an anybodies girl because when she gets pregnant we would like to think her baby is also our baby without the cost of a DNA test.
Revealing clothes fall into this spectrum pretty well. Good to look at, worth making a play for sex but not for a relationship.
I don't think we get upset at all with girls showing everything. We just wouldn't feel enough respect to go further than easy sex for the most. Maybe some guys are censorious but usually it is the 30's women who are most censorious of what 20's girls are NOT wearing :)
For me, at least, I am not going to attempt to be my sister's keeper. I don't think too many men are.
They don't. For some it's insecurity, or others it's hitting back at norms.
For the "insecure" it's usually a case of "look at what you can't have" and they get upset about it. Usually the type who will dog whistle and heckle girls.
For the others, they think you're trying to tempt them to cheat and they take offense. Even if none was intended.
Purity culture. Thatâs pretty much it. Continuing the cycle of making the woman responsible for the actions and feelings of a man she doesnât know.
Cupcake bring the 𧞠s AND the đĽđĽđĽ thrower!
You ask why we donât enjoy looking at women wearing revealing clothesâŚ. Then you say men who check out women are creepyâŚ. Total contradiction. If a man is in a RELATIONSHIP with you, then he wonât want you dressing like slut in public. Why would he? Itâs not about controlling women. Itâs about RESPECTING the relationship. Aside from that, this assertion is totally false. We love revealing clothes otherwise.
Thatâs because heâs a simp
Likely insecurity or jealousy. When my wife wears a tight pair of jeans or shows a little cleavage when we are out - like at a restaurant, sports event, concert etc., I know some guys are checking her out - and I'll give her a little look that she knows is my unspoken "I am going to fuck the heck out of you when we get home" :)
I don't know it was so weird because I couldnât even show cleavage around my ex or wear tight pants⌠even post partum I wasnât allowed to get ready because I looked like a âbopâ or âslutâ wanting attention
lol girl I couldnât get groceries without him being there Iâm very glad heâs an ex
"Like don't men enjoy looking at women in revealing clothes?" That is exactly why. We like looking at your bodies so much as straight men but since we live in a society, we don't wanna be demonized for glancing subconsciously at your asses because it's easy for any of you to scream "rape" if we just looked at it for 2 seconds. Imagine if you're just very hungry and someone put a pizza on your table and if you take a slice, you'd get called a thief. And bringing a fat kid to a donut shop along with other kids only to restrict that fat kid for having any because he needs to be on a diet. That doesn't mean they hate those pizza and donuts.
Just like anyone can control themselves from taking a slice despite being so hungry but that doesn't mean they're not doing any effort in doing that at all. Like you women being irritable on your periods, it's not an easy thing.
It's like someone saying "I hate seeing someone eating delicious fast food while i'm on a diet" It's kinda equivalent to "I hate seeing girls wearing revealing outfit when I'm trying to be sane here"
You can only speak for yourself but a lot of women get irritable when they are on that day. No one is excusing anyone and because of that sociatal rule that Men are not tolerated if they harass girls for wearing anything so revealing, that makes us wanna protest about women wearing anything revealing.
It's also ironic when you tell us to control ourselves when you can even control your urges on wearing revealing clothes.
Jealous knowing they can never have those girls
this too lol. a lot of it really is just sexual insecurity and instead of trying to fix themselves they just blame women for it. hence the incels
I agree.
So naive
@Kingofkings1992 what do you mean? Why do you think those guys are pissed about girls showing skin?
We arenât
On one level, men like looking at the normally hidden parts of the woman's body. On the other hand, they see this kind of exhibitionism as cheap and kind of desperate. It is an ambivalence expressed in the 80s J. Giles song "Angel in a Centerfold." It tells of a man who sees his high school crush in a "girly magazine." Part of him wants to see her naked for obvious reasons. But another part wants to look away because he wants to keep the memory of hiss sweet and innocent crush, if that makes sense.
Because it looks hot and they know they have no chance of getting any of that sweet hotness!
@katiesmuff Whatever! She sucks dicks for $25 a pop down at the corner bar.
@Ariesman81 Oh you wish she did!
@katiesmuff Actually I wish she'd realize she's more than just a pretty face and nice tits.
She's probably an excellent sandwich maker too.
Jealous, no self control, religious reasons... There are probably some more
Jealous of what? đ¤Ł
@Kingofkings1992 jealous that they have nothing to show off
Male brain doesnât work like that lmao. Total misunderstanding of the male psyche. Not surprising, but very amusing.
@Kingofkings1992 nah you know men like to show off but can't. That's why they send random D pics đ
Thatâs a small percentage of men. Only idiot men do that lol
@Kingofkings1992 yeah right men love showing off their cock. They'd do it wayyy more if it was acceptable
Sure, trashy men do. Again, small percentage of the male population. Men who understand what women are attracted to donât do stupid BS like that.
@Kingofkings1992 most women are attracted to seeing men like that but it cannot come off in a creeper way
Most women do not like receiving dick pics.
@Kingofkings1992 yeah we prefer cumshot vids instead... Dick pics don't have the same thrill
because their bodies react to the sight? :D
whatever it is... I wouldn't care much... :D
Very interesting question. I agree with you. If someone doesn't like what I wear, he should look somewhere else. I don't complain when guys dress sloppily or badly.
Guys can get weird sometimes. However, women should be allowed to dress as they like, and an attractive woman showing some cleavage, wearing tight pants, etc. is a treat for any man in the vicinity.
u those are not men... they're boys with mommy issues...
I have no problem with revealing outfits on women. I like my partner looking sexy, knowing that other men and women are going to notice her. She caught my eye. So why should I expect other people to not notice her? At the end of the day she comes home with me and I get to take it off. So people can look away. Just donât touch.
Because women like you complain when we look lol
But it's stupid to say women can wear whatever they want while also telling men what they can and can't look at with their eyes in a public space.
We are talking about look whether it be discreetly or obvious, not staring.
*looking
sheâs really good at contradicting herself
@Kingofkings1992 you got a wandering eye problem? Lol
There are at least two situations
If the woman is a wife or girlfriend, the guy doesn't like her wearing revealing clothes because it tarnishes their intimate relationship.
Otherwise, a guy may think a woman wearing revealing clothes is looking for attention, which lessens her importance.
I think it causes some people to short circuit because they have to re-evaluate the reality of who you are if they normally deal with you in a professional or casual setting. I can recall at least one time I was instantlt smitten by someone I already knew but hadn't thought of that way. I'm sure that would come off as "weird" to the girl... instant behavior change
they always complain ab women wearing revealing clothes in public but then go home to pay to see them take it off smh
They're just trying to slutshame. They assume "skimpy clothes" = "you sleep around"
pretty fucked up.
for the record i definitely enjoy the view hehe
oh yeah the worst is when you get in a relationship and they try to ban or control what you wear. no bueno!
yeah you looked amazing. i enjoyed it lol
and yeah a lot of them... likely wife beaters...
Well i've listened to a lot of their stories.. and a lot of times it usually doesn't start out so bad... they might show some tendencies but the guy usually hides them well or she just doesn't know enough to notice them and then soon they get attached and its super difficult for them to leave.
But yeah controlling what you wear is a pretty bad sign they need to get out asap. don't look back either.
sorry i was talking about why some types of girls get with those types of guys.
Sometimes the guys mask the stuff well. or well enough so a girl may not know the signs before its too late
It is nothing but pure jealousy, probably stemming from the fact they know they can't be with women like that.
I don't think that's it
I don't have a problem with it! They can run around nude, for all I care! It's just skin, for piss sakes!! What's there to be afraid of? And, it's NOT like the rest pf the world doesn't already know what you're hiding!!
I like it. Its hot. Maybe because when you are in a relationship you don't want a woman to be approached by other men obviously, especially if you ended up with someone out of your league. Like I am a 4 , and am getting to know a 10, (she works as a model) if by some miracle I got her, I would be self conscious about the vast differences in hotness. haha.
I don't like woman who wear too revealing clothes in public. We need to wear good clothes and we don't live on the beach âąď¸.
I couldn't care less either way. I won't deny that I like to see it, but I wouldn't date someone that dressed "slutty". I'd never tell a woman they shouldn't do it though, not my business.
I donât think weird is the right word. But more of judge. Sexy=slutty/easy?
and right on cue lol. amazing
I know that, but some guys dont
@Still-alive đđ
Some people don't like to be teased if they don't get to have a bite of the apple, so to speak.
We do enjoy it, it's women that complain when we stare
I hate seeing fat broads in revealing clothes. or ANY woman who practically shows her Trump Target in far-too-short shorts or skirts, but buxom chicks showing their spuds in braless, clingy tops... YEAH, BUDDY !!!
Because women complain when we give them attention, for it
Easier said than done
Who knows, man? Personally I love seeing women dressing sexy. :)
Only the men who are Christian the secular men love to see woman in revealing clothing.
They're very brave, it's very cold outside !
In Spring nd Summer !!!
@beefcakebradybatson I'm looking forward to Spring, can't come soon enough !
YEAH, BUDDY !!!
As conservative I may try to sound or as sincere as I may try to sound, I know we men will always be hypocritics in rhis regard. It's not easy to be a man 😀
Most of them canât be mature and control themselves 😒
Because a woman who dresses like that has zero self respect or any respect for her other half.
meanwhile any other men view her as needy attention seeking. Low morals, low self worth and untrustworthy and she will be treated as such and attract low moral men
They are either religious puritans, deviants with little to no self control or were raised in exposed environment such as a house of ill repute
I think that most men do not care. But then their are the "quality men"who watch Jordan Peterson. they want you to dress like a nun and be like there mother. Who they complain about. All. the. time.
I think that many of those men are insecure and think that someone else will see her as attractive.
Revealing clothes are meant to draw attention in the first place. And some men just don't think it's appropriate, or the contradicting nature of women wearing them and then complaining about the attention they get from men they don't like.
In not one of those guys. I will say that the setting matters. Work and church, for example.
Men don't complain when the women are hot. If they are umattractive they are slutty in their eyes
I donât get weird at all. I think itâs great that women wear revealing shit. It reminds me of how much I enjoy being a man.
Because such men consider confident women out of their league or are insecure about confident women,,,,
I like the generalizations. Like all guys and gals are the same, lol. If cleavage is shown, I'm gonna look. But I don't get all sex crazed and blue balled. It is for attention and nothing more. If tits are shown I'm going to look and that's it.
I donât get weird, I just enjoy the view, whatâs to complain about?
🍿🍿🍿 Id love to hear the answer! My take: Your body, decorate & display as you want!!
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