This site is all about asking/answering questions and debating. As if being older would somehow make you inferior in participating in that. People that say things like "shut up grandpa/grandma" should just be ignored, either they are just trolling because they think it's amusing, or they can't think of anything creative to say and therefore try to make it look like you don't know what you are talking about because you couldn't possibly relate. When I was 16 I thought my parents had never seen porn and that they would be shocked if they knew what kids today were into.. Take comfort in the fact that most of those people, 5 years from now will go "Oh my god, what and idiot I was".
Girl, I can agree with you there. We do need older people here to share valuable advice. Apparently, I am "old" now too (however I can out party any young girl under the table). I also have some valuable advice to share.
If it isn't for older people here, it would be like the blind leading the blind.
Thanks for sharing your story with us. I don't understand the whole age thing with people worrying about 30 and older and the 20's worrying about the teens. One thing that everyone knows here is that we can all learn from each other and most users in their 20's here lack relationship and and sexual experience and I sense jealousy towards the teen crowd so I often wonder why they are on here and not putting their selves out here. You've already lived and probably still enjoying little things in life so I can ask the same question for other age groups. I think we all come come here to give and receive advice unless you are a troll and you can never be too old to learn. I know some people are salty about getting advice for more experienced users who happen to be older or much older but I happen to like it. If it bothers anyone that much they can leave lol.
Really great take. I'd like to add that my being a wife and mother doesn't take away from my experience, it adds to it. This view that society has towards mother's is truly sickening to me. The view that because I sacrifice my time to be with my kids I must be unintelligent and lazy. I've always appreciated your opinions on things. They are well thought out and consice. The young users will understand soon enough just how "old" 40 is and just how fleeting their 20's are.
Thanks Belle, and no one has any better experience than another especially with kids. For example, someone here said aside from *not* having kids I've been through a lot. Well, to me, *not* having any children at the age of 41 *is* the experience. :) How else can someone who chooses not to have kids know what lies ahead of them than asking a woman in her 40s what it was like for her?
Being a wife and mother is an experience, there is no doubt about that. You just said it all with the word "sacrifice". What more do people want? People all too often blame moms who don't stay home with their kids but turn around to criticize those who dedicate their lives to raising them? People are nuts.
Good take, I came across a post similar to that over a month ago asking why us older people are on here and when I was about to jump in a bunch of young gagers defended us so I just watched the comments fly in so apparently it's only a few of them on here that feel that way. I always try to give good advice to all ages since I've been through a lot myself
Yeah, it's not the first time I've seen it come up, but the first time I've seen it posted as a Question. A lot of times the people who get blasted the most are the very young and those who are older (whatever old is considered). Really strange though how people perceive me. I've been hit with insults that include menopause and I just don't get it. Do people actually think 40 is when a woman starts menopause? LOL No, it's meant to be a dig because they don't know how else to insult so that's the best they can do. I like to think I'm rockin 41 the way some women like Jennifer Aniston had a few years ago. I never get this sort of thing in person - ever. It's the safety of being behind a computer screen and likely 5000 miles away from me to say something so moronic.
I was also scared when I started my period at 14, I even cried about it for a week. And I have to say that his is so overwhelming to me, I'm sad that you had to experience that. Don't listen to people like that guy, GAG needs more people like you, oh hell the world needs more people like you! Age doesn't matter when it comes to helping people, I appreciate it more when someone older than me gives me an advice.
Complaining about what age someone is on GaG is absurd. The forum is about people giving advice and helping each other, people of different ages have different perspectives and experiences and that only benefits the discussion and improves understanding. Good advice is good advice whether it comes from a teenager or from someone old enough to be the parent or grandparent of a teenager.
EXACTLY! And while you older people aren't in the middle of "teen problems" any longer, you have been there, and you look back at them with a more mature way. That can possibly result in opinions and points of view causing "eureka" moments for the teens reading it.
That alone is a good reason for you to stay; because you act as the mature person with a different point of view.
Sometimes it's so hard to explain why the answer to some problems is "give it time" as in, when you get older you'll see this really isn't a big deal to someone younger thinking their life has come crashing down because for example, their first love broke their heart at the age of 15. I've been attacked with personal insults thinking that I just don't understand because I'm "old", when it's the only way I can put something, and sure enough in about a year's time they realize it was actually nothing. I usually assume people can figure out that given my age, I've sort of been around the block so when I say I've been there, done that and seen it all and that's why I spit out the answers I do. It's not to be flippant, it's because in the short-run, I know the person will be okay and want to let them know it.
I didn't realize there was an age restriction here. I have noticed people of all ages on this site. Whoever posted those things about losers, etc. will be old (er) one day too. And probably still a GAGer! Or maybe just miserable as that person is now and full of hate and anger.
Older people have been through hell and back. Those young whippersnappers who have a problem with it ought to sit down in the corner where they belong.
(I have a problem with the older men posting about their fetishes and preying on young girls but that is an abuse of the community itself and happens with younger men as well).
This is a wonderful take Ozanne. Thank you for sharing such intimate parts of your life with us. If people can't see all the good you and other older users do they're just ridiculous. Sometimes i think it has less to do with someone's age and more to do with them calling others on their bs.
Kudos young lady , as you can see I am not exactly one of the younger crowd myself. I see much of my youth in your take too , from abuse to the broken family. I too come here wishing to help and at the same time find closure to some bad chapters that were never closed , some of them have been in some way made better but none the less still unclosed. I would like to think that by my being here or the amount of time that I have , some one has benefited from my years of trial and error , and maybe even if it was just one , that my words mattered. I don't know if you have been told this by anyone else here but thank you for being a part of the gang
Great take. I think people who have a problem with us older users are just ageist. And yes, I've been called old on here at 30. Why would anyone not want advise from someone with a lot of experience to answer their question? And I really don't get how being on here when you're older makes you a loser. This site is a hobby, not a lifestyle. How can you be a loser for having a hobby?
Great take! Luckily I haven't had as tough of a life as you have, but I also feel that I can give some helpful advice. Same as you, I didn't get much info or help when I was a teenager and also had to learn everything the hard way. Then in my 20's I married an abuser, the signs were there, yet nobody made me see them. So if I can help anyone with my advice and keep them from making the same mistakes I made, it makes it all worth it.
GaG is just as much a social community as it is a helpful advice website which isn't limited to young people. People of all ages should be welcomed here and other places on the internet. You really give a lot to this website so you're more than deserving to be here. I'm sure you're like me in the sense that the internet is an escape from life. There's nothing wrong with it, whatever your age and marital status. I go online the same amount as I do when I'm in a relationship, it doesn't change depending on my relationship status or my age.
Well said , and for me it also about learning , human behavior, I ask extreme questions at times and see the responses. I asked a question on Sunday that no one replied or vote on. What does it say , well who knows, I love helping people , but I don't see it as giving back or helping because I would have wanted to have someone when I was younger. People can say I don't belong , they have the right to say it and maybe they are right. I will leave when I fell I'm no longer able to contribute or help. There is so much wisdom here and sometimes from 16 year girls and 16 year old boys , You wonder where they come from, I never had that maturity at that age , so it gives me hope , I get to chance to follow those I consider wise and smart , I am not a any teens, but if they show consistent wisdom, I would.
I actually thought of that, and didn't get it either. There are lots of 45+ men here, often going anonymous yet they're in the free and clear on this site. :/
I'll get shit for this because there are a lot of anti-feminists here, but it's because people are sexist. Older men get respect for their life experience while older women are treated like they're expired food.
Did you ever realize how many people expect Madonna to stop making music and accuse her of not acting her age when she's not even over 60? Did you ever hear that about a male celebrity, for example, Paul McCartney? He's about 15 years older than her.
Ageism is as bad as any other kind of discrimination, but people don't care about it.
Yes, this is very true! The only thing about Madonna is that some of her public-sexual-antics are too much, and they have been since she got out of her Who's That Girl phase. To me, it's like she's really grasping to prove her sexual prowess when she doesn't have to. Someone like Paul McCartney isn't out there performing a simulated act of cunnilingus on stage during his songs. Now, Gene Simmons of KISS is sometimes joked that he should give it up, much like Madonna is for the same reason. There are aging actresses and musicians really don't need to shove it in our faces that they're still sexy, Halle Berry, Monica Bellucci, Sheryl Crow, Tina Turner, Susanna Hoffs.. and so many others. As for men, easily we can pick out older actors who also show class but are very sexy.
I think Madonna's strength to just keep at them and do what she's doing is maybe her way of saying, 'no you're never going to slow me down, I don't care what you say,' which is pretty hard amidst the critics.
If a man was to do the same, I don't think he'd get criticism. Cunningulus sounds too much though, whether she's 20 or 56. Her age shouldn't make a difference
Your takes and opinions will always be appreciated by me, Ozanne :) don't let anyone tell you that you don't fit in here, obviously you have a lot of wisdom and knowledge to share which I bet many are thankful for!
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yes, the internet can be wonderful!!! I found this mytake you might like: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a8197-why-it-s-naive-to-think-the-internet-is-different-from-the-outside
Aw thanks for linking. That was a great Take, and I let her know it. I wish more people would read and understand that stuff.
This site is all about asking/answering questions and debating. As if being older would somehow make you inferior in participating in that. People that say things like "shut up grandpa/grandma" should just be ignored, either they are just trolling because they think it's amusing, or they can't think of anything creative to say and therefore try to make it look like you don't know what you are talking about because you couldn't possibly relate. When I was 16 I thought my parents had never seen porn and that they would be shocked if they knew what kids today were into.. Take comfort in the fact that most of those people, 5 years from now will go "Oh my god, what and idiot I was".
Girl, I can agree with you there. We do need older people here to share valuable advice. Apparently, I am "old" now too (however I can out party any young girl under the table). I also have some valuable advice to share.
If it isn't for older people here, it would be like the blind leading the blind.
So keep posting, I love your takes.
old? since when was life expectancy 25?
Yeah, it baffles me too
Thanks for sharing your story with us. I don't understand the whole age thing with people worrying about 30 and older and the 20's worrying about the teens. One thing that everyone knows here is that we can all learn from each other and most users in their 20's here lack relationship and and sexual experience and I sense jealousy towards the teen crowd so I often wonder why they are on here and not putting their selves out here. You've already lived and probably still enjoying little things in life so I can ask the same question for other age groups. I think we all come come here to give and receive advice unless you are a troll and you can never be too old to learn. I know some people are salty about getting advice for more experienced users who happen to be older or much older but I happen to like it. If it bothers anyone that much they can leave lol.
Really great take. I'd like to add that my being a wife and mother doesn't take away from my experience, it adds to it. This view that society has towards mother's is truly sickening to me. The view that because I sacrifice my time to be with my kids I must be unintelligent and lazy.
I've always appreciated your opinions on things. They are well thought out and consice. The young users will understand soon enough just how "old" 40 is and just how fleeting their 20's are.
Thanks Belle, and no one has any better experience than another especially with kids. For example, someone here said aside from *not* having kids I've been through a lot. Well, to me, *not* having any children at the age of 41 *is* the experience. :) How else can someone who chooses not to have kids know what lies ahead of them than asking a woman in her 40s what it was like for her?
Being a wife and mother is an experience, there is no doubt about that. You just said it all with the word "sacrifice". What more do people want? People all too often blame moms who don't stay home with their kids but turn around to criticize those who dedicate their lives to raising them? People are nuts.
I agree. And isn't that what should make gag great? The variety of experiences and choices?
Wonderful take really.
Thanks, Belle, means a lot hearing it from you. :)
Good take, I came across a post similar to that over a month ago asking why us older people are on here and when I was about to jump in a bunch of young gagers defended us so I just watched the comments fly in so apparently it's only a few of them on here that feel that way. I always try to give good advice to all ages since I've been through a lot myself
Yeah, it's not the first time I've seen it come up, but the first time I've seen it posted as a Question. A lot of times the people who get blasted the most are the very young and those who are older (whatever old is considered). Really strange though how people perceive me. I've been hit with insults that include menopause and I just don't get it. Do people actually think 40 is when a woman starts menopause? LOL No, it's meant to be a dig because they don't know how else to insult so that's the best they can do. I like to think I'm rockin 41 the way some women like Jennifer Aniston had a few years ago. I never get this sort of thing in person - ever. It's the safety of being behind a computer screen and likely 5000 miles away from me to say something so moronic.
I was also scared when I started my period at 14, I even cried about it for a week. And I have to say that his is so overwhelming to me, I'm sad that you had to experience that. Don't listen to people like that guy, GAG needs more people like you, oh hell the world needs more people like you! Age doesn't matter when it comes to helping people, I appreciate it more when someone older than me gives me an advice.
Aw CL thanks :)
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Complaining about what age someone is on GaG is absurd. The forum is about people giving advice and helping each other, people of different ages have different perspectives and experiences and that only benefits the discussion and improves understanding. Good advice is good advice whether it comes from a teenager or from someone old enough to be the parent or grandparent of a teenager.
EXACTLY!
And while you older people aren't in the middle of "teen problems" any longer, you have been there, and you look back at them with a more mature way. That can possibly result in opinions and points of view causing "eureka" moments for the teens reading it.
That alone is a good reason for you to stay; because you act as the mature person with a different point of view.
Sometimes it's so hard to explain why the answer to some problems is "give it time" as in, when you get older you'll see this really isn't a big deal to someone younger thinking their life has come crashing down because for example, their first love broke their heart at the age of 15. I've been attacked with personal insults thinking that I just don't understand because I'm "old", when it's the only way I can put something, and sure enough in about a year's time they realize it was actually nothing. I usually assume people can figure out that given my age, I've sort of been around the block so when I say I've been there, done that and seen it all and that's why I spit out the answers I do. It's not to be flippant, it's because in the short-run, I know the person will be okay and want to let them know it.
I didn't realize there was an age restriction here. I have noticed people of all ages on this site. Whoever posted those things about losers, etc. will be old (er) one day too. And probably still a GAGer! Or maybe just miserable as that person is now and full of hate and anger.
LOL Yes, especially when you can be as old as 99 on here. When you sign up you can choose the year 1916 as your year of birth. :)
Older people have been through hell and back. Those young whippersnappers who have a problem with it ought to sit down in the corner where they belong.
(I have a problem with the older men posting about their fetishes and preying on young girls but that is an abuse of the community itself and happens with younger men as well).
I don't know if you are 40
Your intelligence makes you so beautiful
You write so eloquently and always provide some of the best advice
I think gag needs more ladies like you
To help guide girls and boys lol!
Great take from the best take market
I just turned 41 last weekend. :) Thanks PBA
Oh yes! Happy birthday again!
41 never sounded so good 😍😍😍😚
This is a wonderful take Ozanne. Thank you for sharing such intimate parts of your life with us. If people can't see all the good you and other older users do they're just ridiculous. Sometimes i think it has less to do with someone's age and more to do with them calling others on their bs.
Just tell him "To piss off little whiny fuckers like you."
I wouldn't dignify such an obnoxious individual with an indepth responce. If he blurts out such idiocy, he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously. :p
Kudos young lady , as you can see I am not exactly one of the younger crowd myself. I see much of my youth in your take too , from abuse to the broken family. I too come here wishing to help and at the same time find closure to some bad chapters that were never closed , some of them have been in some way made better but none the less still unclosed. I would like to think that by my being here or the amount of time that I have , some one has benefited from my years of trial and error , and maybe even if it was just one , that my words mattered. I don't know if you have been told this by anyone else here but thank you for being a part of the gang
Great take. I think people who have a problem with us older users are just ageist. And yes, I've been called old on here at 30. Why would anyone not want advise from someone with a lot of experience to answer their question? And I really don't get how being on here when you're older makes you a loser. This site is a hobby, not a lifestyle. How can you be a loser for having a hobby?
As someone fast approaching 40 I find the idea of being considered "old" at 30 incredibly funny.
Great take! Luckily I haven't had as tough of a life as you have, but I also feel that I can give some helpful advice. Same as you, I didn't get much info or help when I was a teenager and also had to learn everything the hard way. Then in my 20's I married an abuser, the signs were there, yet nobody made me see them. So if I can help anyone with my advice and keep them from making the same mistakes I made, it makes it all worth it.
GaG is just as much a social community as it is a helpful advice website which isn't limited to young people. People of all ages should be welcomed here and other places on the internet. You really give a lot to this website so you're more than deserving to be here. I'm sure you're like me in the sense that the internet is an escape from life. There's nothing wrong with it, whatever your age and marital status. I go online the same amount as I do when I'm in a relationship, it doesn't change depending on my relationship status or my age.
Well said , and for me it also about learning , human behavior, I ask extreme questions at times and see the responses. I asked a question on Sunday that no one replied or vote on. What does it say , well who knows, I love helping people , but I don't see it as giving back or helping because I would have wanted to have someone when I was younger. People can say I don't belong , they have the right to say it and maybe they are right. I will leave when I fell I'm no longer able to contribute or help.
There is so much wisdom here and sometimes from 16 year girls and 16 year old boys , You wonder where they come from, I never had that maturity at that age , so it gives me hope , I get to chance to follow those I consider wise and smart , I am not a any teens, but if they show consistent wisdom, I would.
Ageist motherfuckers. They don't say that about men.
I actually thought of that, and didn't get it either. There are lots of 45+ men here, often going anonymous yet they're in the free and clear on this site. :/
I'll get shit for this because there are a lot of anti-feminists here, but it's because people are sexist. Older men get respect for their life experience while older women are treated like they're expired food.
www.theguardian.com/.../maggie-gyllenhaal-too-old-hollywood
Did you ever realize how many people expect Madonna to stop making music and accuse her of not acting her age when she's not even over 60? Did you ever hear that about a male celebrity, for example, Paul McCartney? He's about 15 years older than her.
Ageism is as bad as any other kind of discrimination, but people don't care about it.
Yes, this is very true! The only thing about Madonna is that some of her public-sexual-antics are too much, and they have been since she got out of her Who's That Girl phase. To me, it's like she's really grasping to prove her sexual prowess when she doesn't have to. Someone like Paul McCartney isn't out there performing a simulated act of cunnilingus on stage during his songs. Now, Gene Simmons of KISS is sometimes joked that he should give it up, much like Madonna is for the same reason. There are aging actresses and musicians really don't need to shove it in our faces that they're still sexy, Halle Berry, Monica Bellucci, Sheryl Crow, Tina Turner, Susanna Hoffs.. and so many others. As for men, easily we can pick out older actors who also show class but are very sexy.
I think Madonna's strength to just keep at them and do what she's doing is maybe her way of saying, 'no you're never going to slow me down, I don't care what you say,' which is pretty hard amidst the critics.
If a man was to do the same, I don't think he'd get criticism. Cunningulus sounds too much though, whether she's 20 or 56. Her age shouldn't make a difference
Your takes and opinions will always be appreciated by me, Ozanne :) don't let anyone tell you that you don't fit in here, obviously you have a lot of wisdom and knowledge to share which I bet many are thankful for!