Calling It Peace: Let's Be Civil

SpiderManFan2002

Right, so I know many of you don't care about this- and I shouldn't really, it's only online, but here's the thing about online, things are written here forever you could say. And there has been a lot of 'back and fourth' between me and a particular user on this site, they know who they are.

And one of my friends, wrote a comment on their post about me (nothing bad) and she responded with this:

Calling It Peace: Lets Be Civil

I know I shouldn't really react to this, but I just want to clear my name if that makes sense.

So my response:

"She was mean to me"

I'll hold my hands up, I probably have said some harsh things to you in the past - with reason - but I should have conducted myself in a better way. Saying that, we haven't been the kindest too each other, have we?

"And racist too"

If you feel like I have been racist to you, I apologise for making you feel that way.

But please tell me what have I said that was racist to you? I call you out because of the words you say, not your colour. I call you out because of what appears to be the (quote MLK) "content of your character".

You think I "target" you because you are white. But that's not the issue, your skin colour and race does not matter to me because before you are white you are a human being. And you are a human being, who has said racist things to me, which I remember such as asking me if my parents are cousins because I am Pakistani, you told me Pakistanis were the only people that grope young girls (that comment got removed), you've like comments such which say things like:

"THIS IS WHY NO ONE LIKES PEOPLE OF COLOUR"

Examples:

The Question This Person Asked
The Question This Person Asked

My response and this person's reply:

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On another question, this person liked this horrid opinion I know, because '+1' means the asker liked the opinion:

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And I have called things like this out, because I as a person of colour feel like people of colour are being racially stereotyped with some of the things you say- and I don't think that is fair on us people of colour.

"All because I refused to stay silent about the grooming gangs gang raping young white girls"

Speak about the grooming gangs I am not trying to silence you. But if you are going to speak about them, please mention the full facts - especially if you are talking about the race/ethnicity of the criminals and victims.

For example, I have had a user tell me you led to her to believe it was only white girls being targeted and only Pakistani men committing these crimes. And when you lead to people to believe things as such, it creates things like racial hatred which can get really dangerous if we are not careful.

And I'm just going to put a few facts out there.

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Claim means what people believe based on what they have read.

Conclusion is what unbiased research have found out and are now telling the public to rectify any misconceptions.

So when I say "90% of the sex offender register consists of white men" what I really should have said is " studies show, the majority of people convicted of sexual offences appear to be white men, however, there is not much public information avaliable on this."

And when people say "Pakistanis are disproportionally involved in grooming gangs" what they should really say is "A number of studies show Asians are disproportionally represented in these crimes concerning grooming gangs, but many of these studies suggest the data is not good enough to determine whether this is a true reflection of offenders in these cases"

So I am sorry, for broadly saying statements before, and the person I am responding to should be too. The truth is, we're both young, we read certain things and come to our own conclusion and sometimes we don't always read things properly. But we're young, we're learning and we have a long way to go, this is just a learning curve for the both of us.

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Above is some more information about grooming gangs which I found on a website called 'full fact'. I think that is it important that if people are going to mention ethnicity of perpetrators, they mention this.

And if you really want to read more on the grooming gangs in the UK, please read this website because information from newspapers and MPs themselves have been biased which has lead people to believe certain things: https://fullfact.org/crime/what-do-we-know-about-ethnicity-people-involved-sexual-offences-against-children/

And if you're going to mention the ethnicity of the victims, please state all the ethnic groups which were targeted. BAME (Black Asian Minority Ethnic) and white girls. It doesn't matter if there were less BAME girls who were victims- none the less, they were still victims, so it is only fair those ethnic groups get a mention too.

"She even posted a mean bullying question about me that the admins deleted"

The question was something like: "Is this an attempt to bully me away from my campaign?"

And I featured this person's MyTake about libraries, in it.

Because that is what I felt that MyTake was. Whether it was or wasn't I don't know- but it did certainly make me feel bullied. Posting a question about it, may have been a step too far, so I apologise for that.

I am really passionate about the whole #SaveOurLibraries things so when I see hashtags such as:

'LetOurLibrariesDie'

'LibrariesTimeToDie'

'LibrariesDeadOnTheArrival'

It hurts me, especially the insensitivity about the issue. Because I know kids who can't afford internet or have lots of brothers and sisters so they don't have a quiet place to study so they use the libraries for that.

I'm a student, and I can't afford all the books I need for college so the library having books which I can borrow for free comes in handy for me. And I need a physical copy of the books, because I spend a lot of time using technology so sometimes I just like to get away from that and use books. Plus, when my battery dies, and I still want to study, the books come in handy.

And plus, as I've said before the libraries are used by people such as the elderly and young children with their parents- so it isn't fair on them either. Yesterday I saw a little girl at the library, she looked about 8 or 10, and she reminded me so much of my younger self - she even looked similar to me - she was walking down the stairs so engrossed in the book she was reading it's like she shut out the world around her.

A lot of factors came into my mind when I saw those 'hashtags' I don't know the OP's class background- but for lower-class people I can tell you from experience the library is a huge help.

I'm talking to the OP when I say this, if you have a certain view about libraries please at least try and be a little more sensitive to the people who the library helps.

My Conclusion:

I don't want to fight or argue. Really, I don't. But I have seen this person post comments about me calling me 'nasty' and so on.

So I just want this person to stop posting such misleading comments about me, we don't have to be friends with each other, we don't have to like each other and we don't have to agree with each other- but both of us have been behaving like children recently, and I am sick of that and want to end it.

So to this person (they know who they are):

So like I said, we don't have to agree with each other, or like each other, or be friends, but can we be civil to each other and apologise for any upset we have caused each other?

I am sorry for any upset I have caused you. Can I please also have an apology for the upset you have caused me?

That's the end of this MyTake.

Thank you for reading. :) <3

Spidey Peace Out! <3
Spidey Peace Out! <3
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  • RolandCuthbert
    I commend you for trying to be civil. I wish I could be you. I really do.

    But I just can’t. I am civil with those who are civil with me. I don’t think this person, we all know who she is, is genuine about having her feelings hurt. But I could be wrong. It is just that if she is claiming she was hurt you would think she would know she is hurtful.

    But anyway. Good job. God bless. And I hope this place does not poison your spirit.

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    • wankiam

      thing is some of my fave conversaions on here have been with people with very differeing views to my own but also a sense of civility... to that end thats how we learn to understand others even if we can't agree... the user in question is just what we call in the uk 'a mug' because she refuses to take onboard anyone elses opinion or indeed facts. best way to not let ones spirit be poisened is to rcognize trolling and treat it accordingly because if you argue with a fool you just end up with two fools

    • Thank you, though I think her and I are not seeing eye-to-eye on this matter, because she blocked me.

    • wankiam

      she does that... or removes posts that provide factual counter arguements. either way she ain't worth worrying about

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  • ManOnFire
    You already have all my support. You do not have to explain yourself to us or anyone else. This user is a rogue troll who wants nothing BUT to stir people up on here, and it is an utter shame that GaG allows her to stay on here.
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  • NickiB
    I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about because she has some suspect questions she was inviting me to and I'm pretty sure I know why she started inviting me to them so I just blocked her.

    Most people can see through the fake people and the ones who can't opinions don't matter much so don't sweat her.
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  • fauchelevent
    Good for you. A really well-written and mature piece, in my opinion, though I fear that it will fall on deaf ears.
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  • wankiam
    i dont know what the answer is... she has been warned by g@g so many times and has had site rules quoted to her repeatedly but still persists. fortunately most other users see the user as a troll and askhole so dont take her too seriously
    • True☺

    • Though she has been warned and has been accused of trolling, I'm not going to call her an 'asshole'- I might disagree with her strongly, but I don't wanna name call now. :)

    • wankiam

      very wise and i wouldn't use the term either but i might use the term askhole instead lol

  • Ceasar97
    I know this wasn't meant for me, but it was well written and well done. I thought you made good points and addressed all the arguments with evidence. Good Job.
  • ClearerAtN1ght
    I felt this was very maturely written. Whether it will help the situation I don't know. I feel a lot of people use the internet as a way to vent their frustrations, hate, racism etc that they can't in their every day life.
    • Yeah, I've noticed that myself. :)

      Thank you for your response :)

  • WhiteShoulder
    You are a good person for extending the olive branch this way
    • Olive branch? Some kind of metaphor I guess? xD

      And thank you :) <3

    • Extending the olive branch means to offer to make peace

      Welcome ❤️

    • Wow... Maybe you should also visit a library...

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  • Randomawkwardness
    I don't have my glasses on so the words were being a little jumpy for me, what was the connection between the library stuff and the gang rape stuff? I'm not sure I understand
    • Basically me and this user have both spoken about Britain's grooming gang issues, and they believes I am attempting to silence them when I convey my opinion on the matter.

      The library issue is separate, and we have both spoken about the matter with very alternative opinions.

  • IlyaTheImpaler
    I'm sorry, this can only end with one of us walking out of here.
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  • Lemia
    It's nice that you want the war of words to stop but I dont think she will like say Ok Truth anytime soon, its like showing her tits and expecting her to be all respectful. Bullies and Trollers will never piblicly apologise they just find new ways to make you feel small, like making fun how your boobs look, their shape, color etc.
    • Thank you for your opinion, but I'm going to have some faith☺

    • Lemia

      @SpiderManFan2002 I wasn't trying to be a creep or anything. Sorry if i disrespected you

    • It's okay☺

      Your analogy is a little explicit and you should use something more PG in the future, but I'm sure you had no ill intentions.

      Thank you for your support☺

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  • ILoveAnime
    YAAAAAASSSS GIRL!!! <3 <3 <3
  • deadman69
    Well said lady. Well said and well done👌👌👌👌
  • COMMODOREII
    Well said. *standing ovation*
  • Xlink
    White people love to quote MLK
    • sheepdip

      What is wrong with that?

    • I am not white and there is nothing wrong with white people quoting MLK. I'm sure I'LL himself would be very happy with that.

    • wankiam

      indeed he would

  • NEW_YUKI
    Nice take😊
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