Why Self-Proclaimed Nice Guys Never Win

[teawrecks]

I should probably post a disclaimer that I'm obviously only referring as to why they never win with me and that I'm not a Voice For The People speaking on behalf of all women everywhere. Just to make it extra clear, in case it wasn't crystal to begin with.

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The easiest way for me to write you off - as a person, and a "romantic interest" - is to refer to yourself as a nice guy. Why are you telling me you're a nice guy? Why is that something that you feel you need to tell me? That one choice in and of itself, makes you suspicious to me.

You shouldn't have to tell me you're a nice guy.

You're nice? You're a gentleman? You're gonna treat me right, hope the best for me, wish me the best of times? Fine, great, awesome. So use your actions to clue me in to how much of a gentleman you are. Use your actions to portray that you're nice, that you care about my happiness. People aren't lying when they say actions speak louder than words. They're not saying it just to say something. They really, really do.

To be up front with you, the minute you tell me "Hey, I'm a nice guy. I'm not like that, I'm well mannered." I lose it. I, at that point, am on the verge of ripping you a new one for how stupid you sound.

Because you know what I hear when a guy says "I'm a nice guy" ? I hear: "I'm entitled to your attention and affection because I'm nice." and "I shouldn't have to work for your affection because I'm nice." Let's not forget the "You should love me and be thankful for me because I'm nice."

Let's expand on what the majority of these fellas (not all, to clarify) think is being nice: basic. human. kindness.

Oh, so you don't like nice guys. Have fun being treated like shit by assholes, then.

Because every guy who isn't you is automatically labeled an asshole in your eyes. Every guy I have an interest in that doesn't compare exactly to how you are, is an asshole. Never mind that he shows me that he's nice and cares about me instead of having to tell me he's nice.

It's a constantly recurring theme. If person A is interested in person B, but person B is interested in person C, then person A toxically comes to the conclusion that person C is an asshole / bitch, and not going to treat person B correctly or to the standards that person A believes they will treat person B.

That's not how it works! That's not how any of this works!

In short: stop saying you're a nice guy and start showing girls that you're nice. It's going to get you a lot farther than "Hi, I'm Billy, I'm a nice guy."

[steveguitar]

I don't think anybody says, ' I'm a nice guy'. they may say it on the internet as a way to explain that they aren't going to jerk a girl around, or play with her emotions or be the kind of ass that just wants to sleep with a girl... sorry for the run on sentence.

What the guys who are nice hate is when they know a guy, or can see that he is just in it for the sex. And they see a girl getting played, or interacting with a guy that has all the confidence, social skills, flirting skills, and just wants sex. Guys know how guys are, girls don't understand us the way they think hey do.

Have you ever been to a bar with a good looking female bartender, and some loudmouth guy is interacting with the bartender and she is laughing and playing the flirt card just to make tips. The guy probably knows that nothing is going to happen, but keeps pursuing and probably goes after a bunch of girls that night. Maybe he goes home with one of them or pretends to be a boyfriend until he gets to fuck her. That guy is the kind of guy that other guys hate. He is the type of guy that will step all over somebody, or another guys girlfirend to get what he wants in the sex department.

Anyways I hate all this nice guy crap, but I really don't understand why girls like the guys who are just in it for kicks and wetting their dicks, as soon as a guy comes on to a girl within the first few seconds of meeting you already know what he is

[Araya]

I've seen it said in a variety of ways. It's usually "But I did_____________for you." As if his nice action should be reciprocated for something in his favor.

That's an asshole thing to do. Why do something nice and expect something in return? That's not what a lot of genuine nice guys do.

[steveguitar]

It shouldn't be expected that doing something nice will get you anything, but it should help a friendship develop, or trust, or something more. But a relationship is a mighty tough thing to find, and people who don't know how to flirt or show they are interested might be using the 'nice thing they did' as a way to get to a girl... I can understand that, though there shouldn't be expectation. I guess I just repeated myself, oh well

[TayTay21]

I'm so tired of girls whining about guys complaining about girls. Last I checked, it's their right to complain. Girls complain about guys all the time. We all have things about the other gender that drive us crazy.

The real problem is narcissism, not nice guys. There are lots of genuinely nice guys out there who are sweethearts, and then there are narcissistic guys who can't fathom that their crushes like other guys over them. *These* are the guys who go around complaining that hot girls don't like them, and that they're really better than the hot guys who they're dating.

[steven7890789]

@TayTay21 you nailed it. I agree with everything you said. It is just double standards in society. Women are allowed to complain about men but as soon as men complain about women, they are told to ''suck it up,'' or ''man up.''

[TayTay21]

@steven7890789 It's true, lots of girls are selfish and entitled but don't even realize it. I've always had more male than female friends because too many girls are stuck up and feel like they should get everything their way. Guys are generally more laid back and chill... makes it so much easier to be friends without the drama.

[steven7890789]

@TayTay21 you think differently from most women. There aren't many women like you and the girl I am dating. She feels the same way you do.

[TayTay21]

@steven7890789 Yeah, I know. Part of the reason I am different is that I grew up with three older brothers and parents who didn't coddle me and treat me like some infallible little princess. I got my butt whipped just the same as my brothers did.

[steven7890789]

@TayTay21 I see. And have you noticed how many people always talk about most young American raised white women in the United States feeling entitled, etc. I think that is dumb, because it is not only young American raised white women feeling entitled, it is also most young American raised women of other ethnic groups too. And even though the entitleness is worse among young American raised women when they are upper middle class to rich, most young American raised women, that are poor or middle class feel entitled too.

[TayTay21]

@steven7890789 I know, and it makes me sick. I get so tired of hearing the whining today about everything, like some kid didn't make the baseball team and he's going to file a lawsuit over it. I'm like, really? Girls are entitled because most parents are afraid that their daughters will withdraw and become morose if they punish them.

[steven7890789]

@TayTay21 that may be true for some cases but I think the main reasons for most parents in this country not punishing their daughters enough, at all, or equally as their son or if they had a son because she is a female, and they think females are innocent and should be forgiven, cause they did a ''mistake''.

[TimeSplitters123]

At last it took plenty of reading through the comments to find something sensible written by a girl and here it is.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

ok, let's clarify a few things. there's a catch 22 going on. you say you're a nice guy, which puts you in a box of "self proclaimed nice guys". you act like a nice dude on top of that and you still get pigeonholed. but then you don't say it and girls either assume that you're trying to get some or they think they think of that person as generic dude #74 with no personality than the hundreds of dudes that hit on her

with that said, i definitely agree actions are louder than words. there are a couple other things that i don't think you mentioned that you failed to explain or i should clarify. the 1st being the difference between being a "nice guy" and a suck up. you're describing a suck up. someone who sucks up to women in hopes of getting a date. they aren't an asshole or anything, but they mark off things like a grocery list. if i do steps #1-8, then i should get a girlfriend. if i do all those things and she doesn't like me, then she must be a skank

when a lot of guys say they are a "nice guy", i imagine that they are just inherently nice. i'm inherently nice. i have a lot of friends, i'm personable and charismatic and people just like being around me. i don't try to impress anyone either. i hold the door and shit because it's the polite thing to do, but that's because i was raised that way. with that said, i joke around and have my own personality and shit. i like fucking around and joking. i like messing with people. that's more of what people associate when they say they are "nice guys"

this is where the problem happens: there are a lot of dudes who are the latter and combine it with the former. theoretically, that's where guys sort of lose it. i do the same thing to an extent. i try to be myself while flirting and trying to impress her and it doesn't usually work out. the difference is that i don't think girls are obligated to like me. i would like a girlfriend, but i'll be honest, i don't really care. but at times, i do feel like what the hell am i doing wrong? i respect women, they like me (from a personality perspective), sometimes i tell them i like them and i flirt... but for whatever reason, the romantic portion isn't there

people just don't comprehend that you can't control who likes you. but it doesn't help that about guys are still at least 90x more likely to get rejected by a girl than girls would be rejected by a guy

i think i forgot to mention something, but i'll leave it at that because i literally just used up all 2500 characters :D

[teawrecks]

"when a lot of guys say they are a "nice guy", i imagine that they are just inherently nice."

Yeah, which I said, if they're ACTUALLY nice, then fine. But don't fuckin' tell me you're nice because you just lost all credibility. The minute you tell me you're nice, I'm thinking "Oh great, so this guy thinks that makes him an Optimal Choice for me."

Some dude from Tinder the other night messaged me and the second thing he said to me was "I'm a nice guy," and that was it. I stopped replying to him. I don't have time for guys to try to convince me they're worth my time by opening with telling me they're nice.

I'll decide for myself if I think you're nice or not.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

well, it depends. i mean if you say it out of the blue and shit, i would think that's weird, but if you were to ask me what kinda guy i am or if it comes up, i'll say i'm a nice guy. or if you think i'm after sex or whatever, i'll say i'm a nice guy and won't do that. it depends on how it's presented.

alright, 1st, it's tinder. the app's used basically for hooking up. with that said, I don't know your intentions, but i mean it sounds a lot better than "hey girl, i was really thinking of shoving my dick down your throat. wanna send me some nudes and then meet up later?". that works on about.002% of girls and again, most guys are there to get girls' attention. maybe he is a nice guy, maybe he isn't, but it does sound just as bad that he says 3 words and you just blow him off on a pre conceived assumption you've built in your mind. that's as bad as the part you said about when a nice guy doesn't agree that she likes to be treated like shit. you don't know the dude. you can't have it both ways.

[teawrecks]

I know I'm not interested in knowing any dude who has convinced himself that he has to tell someone that he's a nice guy in order to feel important enough for that girl to hold a conversation with him.

Even if I ask a guy what kind of person he is, I'm not looking for him to tell me "I'm a nice guy." I'm looking for him to tell me things like "I'm someone who believes in recycling" or "I'm the type of person who doesn't believe in equality for all" things like THAT.

Someone trying to tell me they're nice is like someone telling me I have to view them as nice. Which works just as well as someone trying to tell me to do something. I'm going to NOT do it and I'm NOT going to see that person as a nice person.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

well, i agree. actions do speak louder than words. i mean doing arbitrary nice things doesn't make a nice guy either. don't mean to take it to the extreme, but hitler wasn't all terrible. he was a huge advocated of animal and women's rights. not saying you would think so, but by your logic, you'd think he was a pretty swell dude... you know, minus the whole mass genocide and world domination thing :D

for a more practical example, think of someone who says they're smart. hell, i'm smart. i have a 150+ iq, but i use it to act like a 5 year old. i'm not gonna brag by saying i have a 150+ iq, i can answer every jeopardy question right, i have some conceptual understanding of the theory of relativity or i can solve a rubik's cube. i'll just say i'm smart. whether you want to believe it is up to you, but i'm not gonna brag about it and try to convince you. same thing with saying i'm a nice guy. i'll say it 1 or 2x, but you should be able to tell if i'm a nice guy beyond me mentioning it.

[StewieRH]

Agreed. A funny thing I've noticed is that of all the guys I've spoke too who have referred to themselves as a "nice guy" so far.. Have actually been jerks.

My ex told me he was a nice guy but then he continuously lied to me and ended up cheating on me. He would say a lot of nice things to me but his actions showed he did not really care.

I remember posting something about this online and one self proclaimed "nice guy" messaged me saying it was my own fault for picking assholes when I should go for the shy quieter nice guys such as himself. What he failed to understand was that I THOUGHT my ex was a nice guy at first. This guy also clearly wasn't nice as he was being mean to me about it.

I think these guys just call themselves nice in attempt to trick women and possibly even themselves. If someone really is nice they don't have to say it because it's evident within itself. Of all the genuinely nice guys I've known, I don't recall any of them seriously referring to themselves as nice because they don't have too, it is already clear from their behaviour. Oh and these genuinely nice guys didn't tell me it was all my fault my ex cheated on me because I should have chose a nice guy, instead they sympathized and actually tried to help me.

[IcyBastet]

Exactly, there are loads of guys who just act nice at first but when they get comfortable, they show their true nasty colours. Hence a lot of people thinking all girls go for bad guys... When actually, some of us genuinely like nice ones (if they're not fake!)

[StewieRH]

@IcyBastet
My point exactly!

[BertMacklinFBI]

thats crazy, I've never seen that. but then again im not a girl.

[StewieRH]

@BertMacklinFBI It does happen

[UtopianLobotomy]

@IcyBastet Psychologically / statistically a guy who comes off as direct and abrasive at first is the honest one who isn't trying to mask his intentions or his true identity, which means if he hasn't showed you a dick pic, his dick, or acted like a retarded player and boasted about himself while demeaning you yet he's probably as close to a "nice guy" as you are going to get. Even if he comes off as a bit arrogant maybe he just got out of a long term relationship and he doesn't know how to flirt that and he's ADD.

[StewieRH]

@UtopianLobotomy I'm guessing this is what you do?

Yes it is good you are honest about your intentions but genuine nice guys are actually caring too.

My boyfriend had ADD. He does say the wrong things sometimes but then if I get him to see it from my point of view he will apologize and usually not do it again. He can be really caring sometimes too and from I can tell, seems to be honest and loyal.

[UtopianLobotomy]

I was shy in high school and after that for a few years, it took getting blown up for me to feel comfortable enough in my own skin due to some child hood trauma. So I overcompensated for my years of shyness and I came off as a bit arrogant, then I jumped into a long term relationship - a couple years single is all I've really had and I've experimented with flirting and I haven't had any success, the women I want to date don't want to date me - the women I don't want to be with like that want to be with me. I'm just going to give up looking to be honest, no sense in being with someone just for a screw, I've been there and it isn't as satisfying as I thought it would be.

[StewieRH]

@UtopianLobotomy I used to have that thing where it seemed guys I liked didn't like me back or were only interested in sex and I didn't like the guys who liked me. But then I found out my best guy friend/crush liked me so now I'm with him, it just takes time to find someone that's all.

[UtopianLobotomy]

*ANNOYING BUZZER SOUND*
There are a variety of "nice guys" there are the white knights, effeminate types, the fakes, etc. However there are also guys that don't neatly fit into any of the categories. There are the guys who look fit but have a good head on their shoulders, just because they are fit and kind of muscly doesn't make them a dull person to have an intelligent conversation with, it doesn't make them a player just because they don't have a third eye and no how to clean up good when they want to.

These generalizations have their place in combat zones but not when you are looking for a mate, some discernment is advisable of course, but such immature arbitrary categories like this are just detrimental to arriving at any productive end game for both women and men seeking to find their mates.

My nice guy story goes like this, you are too intense (too much PDA? too full of compliments for her, too hands on all the time), you are too muscly (?), you are too attractive for me (I don't believe that shit), and I'm a cheesy romantic... fuck what am I supposed to do treat you like I'd treat my bros? That's just fucking weird, girls today don't want to be swept off of their feet so to speak, well forget it then.

[UtopianLobotomy]

@teawrecks Funny name by the way, so forget the poems and flowers then. I've tried that crap its useless, and I've noticed that women in their twenties and up to 30 don't want that crap anyway, its this coddling to them and offensive or something... this is all just too weird for me... I kind of just want to check out of society, and in some ways I've already jettisoned a long time ago.

[Anonymous]

A genuinely nice guy walks into a bar and sees a regular girl. So he thinks to ask her out. He's naturally nice and treats her well that day. Girl said nothing will happen between them. That guy gives up.

Another day a self proclaimed guy makes a move on her. He fakes his personality and same thing happens to him.

Now that girl and her friends were gossiping and the girls ask her, "Why did you decide not to go out with any of them?"
Girl says, "Second guy seemed fake. He was just pretending to be nice."
Other girls: "Yeah we can understand. What about the first guy?"
Girl: "He seemed nice. Didn't look like he was forcing anything. That's sneaky! He must've experience in faking it."
All girls nods in agreement.

PS. I'm not saying that nice guys finish last. Also I agree with you take. I'm just saying that in between self proclaimed guys some genuinely nice guys get slaughtered for being natural. I've seen exact same scenario happening twice. Once my female friends were blabbing about 'fake nice guy'. I was appalled by their comments because the guy they were talking about was actually a real gem. If I was a girl I would've dated him 😂

[Dan2287]

I've never gone so far as to tell someone 'in a nice guy'. I've always let them form their own opinion through my actions.

I did used to think that way though - 'oh she's passing me up for THAT guy? He would never treat her the way I would'. But I eventually realized no that's not the case. I don't know the other guy, he's probably great. He can offer her something I can't - why get mad over that. It took a long time for me to see things that way - looking back I think it was me who was the bitter asshole making judgements on situations I didn't know anything about

[TheBag]

Nailed it.

A nice guy is not necessarily a good guy, but it suffices to say a good guy is a nice guy.

This part is fantastic.
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I hear: "I'm entitled to your attention and affection because I'm nice."
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You could go one step further and say you hear "I'm entitled to your attention and affection because I can communicate vocally".

That's about how much anyone can prove by saying they're nice. Same goes for I'm funny, I'm smart, etc

Do something nice for a person, it involves that person without taking them for granted.

[genericname85]

this take is pretty narrow focused. most guys who refer to themselfes as "nice guy" in such a discussion don´t think "every other guy" is an asshole but not them.

it´s about seeing other guys getting the girl, who just tell her what she wants to hear. it´s frustrating because you are an open and honest person and you get less sex than those liars/players. in this scenario not only the self proclaimed "nice guy" but in fact every guy would recognize that she´s going for the asshole and will probably cry her eyes out later about "how every guy´s such an asshole"...

also most guys know that "being nice" isn´t all that takes and by the way: i´ve never heard of a guy who actually refers to himself as "nice guy" XD

[ChromAzonyx108]

Yeah, I don't know of many guys who would introduce themselves as a nice person. Usually they refer to themselves as nice guys when they wonder "why don't girls like me? I'm a nice guy" or stuff like that.

"also most guys know that 'being nice' isn´t all that takes"

The idea of nice guys never winning is kind of silly. Consider if Brad Pitt, or some other celebrity that gets girls weak in the knees, was a good guy and the girl got to go out with him. She probably wouldn't dump him because he's a 'nice guy.' So yeah, niceness doesn't factor in that much.

[genericname85]

@ChromAzonyx108 isn´t all it takes* wtf xD my English sucks. even the nicest guy will after some consideration find the fault in him self. it´s just that we enjoy self pity sometimes :D

[Coconutty]

"I've never heard of a guy who actually refers to himself as "nice guy" - You obviously haven't read male dating profiles. Not only will they go crazy trying to convince us how wonderful they are, they'll message us saying "You should go out with me because I know how to treat a lady right." Right off the bat they come across as patronising.

[genericname85]

@Coconutty XD i kind of distinguish between somebody refering to him self generally as a nice guy and somebody bing "the nice guy" as opposed to other dudes.

let´s not talk about dating sites here ^^ i know as much as you, that the worst of the worst happens there. guys just blatantly bragging, obviously trying desparately to get sex... that´s not what "real" guys are like in my opinion.

[Coconutty]

I've given up on men.

[Coconutty]

I do agree with you that nothing's wrong with presenting yourself as a "nice guy" in a general way to be friendly, as long as it's not braggin.

[genericname85]

@Coconutty yeah and i´ve given up on women xD

[Coconutty]

haha... we should go have drinks.

[genericname85]

meh XD i´m not buying a plane ticket to get a drink ^^

[tyber1]

I don't see what's wrong with saying you're a nice guy, as long as you're not using it as a crutch. I'm sure plenty of the guys who say that are actually nice. As long as he has doesn't have entitlement issues it's no different in my book that saying 'I'm smart', 'I'm funny', 'I'm confident', 'I'm interesting', 'I'm adventurous', etc. I mean if you really think about it, someone could just say any of those about themselves and until they prove it you have no more of a reason to think they're telling the truth than if they said they were nice. If we're applying the logic of showing with actions then saying any of those things is irrelevant.

[tyber1]

To be clear, I don't say generally say I'm a nice guy. I tend to let people draw their own conclusions. Some think I'm the nicest person ever and some think I'm an ass.

[TheNewJanie]

I understand where guys who are trying to get by off beng nice come from. When you dont have any attractive qualities, you try to be your best self and hope people will notice it. After all, its only fair that guys with nothing else to offer be noticed in some way. However, bring nice comes a dime a dozen. Its so easy to accomplish that every person in the world knows how to do it. That doesn't mean everybody does, but being nice is not an accomplishment. So therefore, just dont come at me with that "im nice so im great" bit. I can be nice too. What else can you do?

[indie_rock_chick]

Yeah all those "nice" guys think that just because they are practicing basic human kindness that is granted girls should be all over them and awarding them with sex and dates. We can't all like everyone and just because I don't like you does not mean I like assholes, it's just that I'm not attracted to you. No one ows you anything just because you're nice and playing "nice" just to win stuff for yourself and if they dont give it to you you get all of your bitterness out and offend, is not very nice. So basically girls don't like assholes and you are one

[bloodmountain1990]

Agreed. In general though, people who proclaim to be anything tend to be the opposite, whether it's nice, funny, real and down to earth, etc.

For example, a girl I knew would always tell me and others how everyone out in our area is so fake but she is so "real" and "legit". She would say it 1000 times and it got annoying and she was one of the fakest people I have met. Many others have said the same.

But a guy who goes around proclaiming he's nice and isn't when things don't go his way is like a girl who complains about not getting the right guy or respect solely because she's pretty.

[Anonymous]

So true. And the ones who say it never are, they're just normal or they're creepy. The ones who are actual nice guys are just nice and don't mention it or talk about it as if they deserve a medal.
And what I think is important too, is if he's a genuine good guy with decent morals and is going somewhere, he's not the guy who's complaining about how women are so terrible and women chase assholes... because you know what, dumb girls who don't have their life on track chase assholes, decent girls don't. So if those are the girls he's coming across, that says so much about him.

[Anonymous]

I agree and have witnessed this first hand. There are genuinely nice men out there, but the self proclaimed ones tend to be whiny and get angry if things don't go their way. "I am a nice guy, why won't she date me?" Even when you explain that she isn't interested and it's best to move on to someone else, the few I knew got so hung up and kept obsessing over the one that rejected them. They felt entitled to her, since they are "so nice".

Actions can speak louder than words. Showing kindness and respect goes a long way with me.

[ManOnFire]

In some sense, I can agree with you. When a guy starts talking about how he's "a nice guy" and saying how girls don't like him, it can be kind of annoying, yes. And then at the same time, it's similar to how females either say they're a nice girl, or complain about "where have all the good men gone?" as if they think they're automatically nice and worthy of having one.

[lacorine197]

exactly, and the same girls who whine about that "not all girls are like that" or "i'm nice , why won't anyone date me" Has a secret problem.

[OmegaWolf1349]

I was once the guy that was like, "Damn, I was nice to her then got friend zoned over that retard looking guy with the flat brim snapback and Tapout shirt."
But then one day I saw her crying in the lobby, he broke her heart cause some new chick with a Camaro was in town.
I just thought to myself, "I love how this system works, it has auto-karma!" I finished my Baconator, and walked out with a smile.

[Araya]

That's not something a nice guy would do. You sound just like an asshole in disguise... which is what this MyTake was about.

[steven7890789]

@OmegaWolf1349 that is messed up man. You are a jerk.

[OmegaWolf1349]

@steven7890789 That is the point. I am not so nice now, but I am not finishing last anymore. lol

[OmegaWolf1349]

@steven7890789 Thanks for the compliment! lol

[IcyBastet]

One guy I was seeing said to me: "I'm the nicest guy you will ever meet" ... yet he strung me along for 8 months (I'd known him years beforehand and thought he really was nice) and then when he finally asked me to be his girlfriend (in front of my mum to show he was "serious") he changed his mind the next day without telling me why... A couple of weeks later, he was all over another girl right in front of me. When I confronted him that night, he kept looking over at her like she was the only important thing there. He didn't even have the guts to tell me why he no longer wanted me. Oh, and another thing? He soon made it official with her... I waited 8 months for him for nothing.

[IcyBastet]

This is why I will never trust another guy who tells me he is "nice".

[MrMystery28]

Yea for all confused males out there. When you say im a nice guy it comes of like your seeking approval.. As if the girl is suppose to go really? Then give you points or something. It screams "am i good enough for you?" And its inauthentic and unconfident. Another thing its more your vibe than your looks as long as your a 5 and not any lower in her eyes. Then you can get her depending on your vibe.

[9mfeo]

Oh man. I certainly agree with you. It's not actually a difficult concept to grasp: I expect basic human kindness from everyone. Is that basic human kindness all you can offer as a person? Do you have no other interests or hobbies? Ugh. Irks me to no end.

[Coconutty]

Exactly. If a guy just agrees with everything you say, has no opinion, answers every time you ask about plans with, "I don't care. What do you want to do?" it's so annoying.

[koibito]

If one has a need to self-proclaim their own label or status, that's not a very good indication of their character hah.

And trying to publicly attribute blame, especially on other people, is not very nice too.

It's better to be the better person and just stay silent and walk off.

[MusicLover8098]

I think I speak for guys everywhere like me, who are actually shy, romantic dreamers, that would give anything just for a girl to notice them, when I say to you poser
a-holes: STOP IT. You've already destroyed almost any chance of girls liking us. Go mess with the hipsters or something, just please, LEAVE US ALONE.

[Dragonstarterplus]

You're hoping for a girl to notice you? And then do what, walk up to you and start talking to you? That isn't how it works

I find the main problem that stops guys from getting a girl is that they don't just go for it. They don't act on their intentions

[SuperSensi]

Hahaha!! Damn man, I could not have said it better myself.

[SuperSensi]

Sorry, my first comment was to @MusicLover8098. Not @Dragonstarterplus.