this is an indirect attack on women for not "appreciating" nice guys. You are just sitting here trying to guilt trip women for not liking you because you are some prince charming gentleman in your own mind(which is the primary problem, your mind is ab ullsh*t machine)
Didn't you read the article? He eventually became a jerk and finally succeeded with women that way! His message is that men should become jerks instead of being a nice guy that girls don't want!
@circlebill, I guarantee that part about him finally succeeding with women is fantasy. He had to add that part to give proof to his bullshit theory. If he actually had succeeded women, he wouldn't be whinning.
If you read further down before writing it was stolen you would see my response to this accusation in the past.
I live in Los Angeles, and I originally wrote this. I realize it appeared on craigslist, and I have the original email responses of people nominating the post for "best of".
I don't think he's whining about all women in general - just the ones who p*ss and moan about not being able to find a "nice" or "good" man. They can, they just didn't want them back when they had their teenage good looks, now that they are aging the positions are reversed - only problem is that guy they passed over has moved on too. He's different, he's married, whatever, just not available. Think of all the girls you know who are perpetually single and ask yourself if I'm wrong about them.
YES! It is true, it is true as it is written. Ladies, take notice!
For Trickstir85: It sounds like your friend already "shed his mantle"....
Some girls get it though. I'm with a wonderful girl right now, that was looking in all the wrong places for what she now claims I am, the best man in the world. I love her to bits, even if though it took her a while to realize it...
A juvenile attitude? You yourself just agreed with what I said by stating that you have a hard time getting your foot in the door. This article isn't meant to apply to every situation and every stage, but its saying that as a nice guy its harder to get and keep a relationship short term.
Also, take a look at my age. I'm sure it doesn't apply to older individuals, but it applies to me. I'll write another article once I'm older about how I feel. Thanks for the feed back.
I couldnt have said it better myself!! this is the truest article ive read on here. I go through this with every girl I like, I wish sometimes they would get their heads out of the dumb asses and realize this. I hope you don't mind I'm going to keep this article and send it to some of those girls who will never grow up.
Girls say they want nice guys but don't. The term "nice guy" is a misnomer. The "nice guy" they are looking for and "nice guy" they reject are 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. Women want someone who is confident, witty, outspoken, learns what makes them tick, and is a charismatic who doesn't reveal too much of himself too soon. Women don't refer to this guy as a "nice guy" because "nice guy" has already been used by women as code word for wussy. One who exhibits approval seeking behavior.
Clearly people agree with what I'm saying, even women. This is an overexaggerated story meant to overtly point out some truths that women share. This is more of a satire on how shitty women treat men than a nonfiction story.
Most women are horribly shallow, especially at my age. You are thinking in the generation in which you grew up, and I'm sorry but its outdated and you have not experienced the new generation of college age kids in america.
You don't think it pisses me of that some blond chick can get promoted ahead of me or some guy catered to a low life girl who played games while I sat at home dateless--I was THIRTY-FIVE when I finally met the man I wanted--what are u, 21? WTF?. You are not going to get what you want- just handed 2 you--and a girl isn't obligated to like you just because you are NICE--you have to be compatible--share the same goals...all you did was make men angry about a situation they cannot control..
Damn this writing template--anyway--what I was saying was, guys are JUST as guilty of chasing girls who look a certain way and not caring about the inner person --until they get burned by the heifer--then they want to become vindictive. what you are doing is destructive, not constructive.
why is it your idea that you are supposed just be handed any girl you want? some guys have it easier--so what?
I suppose what gets my goat is that if a woman came on here and said "I got burned by an asshole, and because of that, I will tell all women to treat men like the jerks they are!" then you and all the men in here high-fiving you would be calling her a bitter, angry bitch.
why--she is sayign nothign no differnt then what you are.
Bsides, I was otssed aside by guys who cahsed afrter bond bimbos--I kenw I coudl give them the lvoe they desires--they called me thier "friend" while they kept gettig
I guess its just my experience. I've dealt with far more women that fit this perfectly than not and that's where this generalization comes from. Sure, its definently overexaggerated, but that's meant for people to look at and think about even more. I mean, clearly its causing a lot of people to stop and think, and that's what I aimed for in the very beginning probably about 4 years ago now.
I said emotional intimacy, meaning that when something goes wrong you always go to the guy for support. I think this is much different from your example of a guidance counselor. This is the guy that you hang out with everyday, sharing all your deepest emotions with. And no, it doesn't automatically mean that you have to have sex with any guy that's nice to you, that's not what I'm trying to say. This was written with someone very specific in mind, not as a mold to fit every girl into.
I think I figured certain things out; at least to a small degree.
I want a woman. Not a girl. The females you are describing are not women but girls. There can be 18 year old women, and 30 year old girls.
Great women are rare, and they usually get "snatched up" quicker than the guys because of the way our culture is. It won't stop me from looking. I just hope I don't become bitter and nasty with all the waiting and pain.
How many of you girls that are ranting about this article being stupid actually have found that "nice guy" or whatever guy you have been looking for all your life? why when a guy does something stupid its hell for us like when we cheat its all wrong, but when a girl does something stupid and bitches about it we are supposed to kiss your ass and say your sh*t doesn't stink?
I think you are putting too much blame on women. Attraction cannot be controlled. I am not a chick magnet , but I can't go bitter because of that . There is third way between bieng a nice guy and bieng bitter. The third way is to be bold , toughen up and work on one's confidence , attraction self esteem etc....... I think in general , girls are more forgiving and sensitive to feelings than guys. We just storm around looking for the hottest girl.
Look who the negative comments are coming from? WOMEN. I've had perfectly fine experiences with women - since I changed how I acted. Now I realize this is quite the extreme viewpoint I laid forth, but it was roughly 2 years ago. I was 19 years old and have a different view than I have now.
"He probably cleaned up his look, started making some money, and generally acted like more of an asshole than he ever wanted to be."
That's what I did when I was younger, at least until I realized I could just be me and still meet girls. I was just looking in all the "wrong places" so to speak. Although this guy's rant is pretty one-sided and angry there is a fair amount of truth in there.
Amen! I thank my stars every day that I woke up and realized that the jirks I was in relationships with were only after one thing, and usually got it. I now have a boyfriend who is wonderful and wouldn't trade him for the world
Pretty much true, I would never spend any time with a woman who I had no interest in that had a crush on me. I won't even talk to her it's wasting her time in a destructive way. She needs to be connecting with men she has a shot with. Same with any woman, it's a terrible thing to do to use a man who's got a crush on her if she's not interested. It's disgusting to think about.
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this is an indirect attack on women for not "appreciating" nice guys. You are just sitting here trying to guilt trip women for not liking you because you are some prince charming gentleman in your own mind(which is the primary problem, your mind is ab ullsh*t machine)
Didn't you read the article? He eventually became a jerk and finally succeeded with women that way! His message is that men should become jerks instead of being a nice guy that girls don't want!
@circlebill, I guarantee that part about him finally succeeding with women is fantasy. He had to add that part to give proof to his bullshit theory.
If he actually had succeeded women, he wouldn't be whinning.
If you read further down before writing it was stolen you would see my response to this accusation in the past.
I live in Los Angeles, and I originally wrote this. I realize it appeared on craigslist, and I have the original email responses of people nominating the post for "best of".
I don't think he's whining about all women in general - just the ones who p*ss and moan about not being able to find a "nice" or "good" man. They can, they just didn't want them back when they had their teenage good looks, now that they are aging the positions are reversed - only problem is that guy they passed over has moved on too. He's different, he's married, whatever, just not available. Think of all the girls you know who are perpetually single and ask yourself if I'm wrong about them.
YES! It is true, it is true as it is written. Ladies, take notice!
For Trickstir85: It sounds like your friend already "shed his mantle"....
Some girls get it though. I'm with a wonderful girl right now, that was looking in all the wrong places for what she now claims I am, the best man in the world. I love her to bits, even if though it took her a while to realize it...
A juvenile attitude? You yourself just agreed with what I said by stating that you have a hard time getting your foot in the door. This article isn't meant to apply to every situation and every stage, but its saying that as a nice guy its harder to get and keep a relationship short term.
Also, take a look at my age. I'm sure it doesn't apply to older individuals, but it applies to me. I'll write another article once I'm older about how I feel. Thanks for the feed back.
I couldnt have said it better myself!! this is the truest article ive read on here. I go through this with every girl I like, I wish sometimes they would get their heads out of the dumb asses and realize this. I hope you don't mind I'm going to keep this article and send it to some of those girls who will never grow up.
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Girls say they want nice guys but don't. The term "nice guy" is a misnomer. The "nice guy" they are looking for and "nice guy" they reject are 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. Women want someone who is confident, witty, outspoken, learns what makes them tick, and is a charismatic who doesn't reveal too much of himself too soon. Women don't refer to this guy as a "nice guy" because "nice guy" has already been used by women as code word for wussy. One who exhibits approval seeking behavior.
Clearly people agree with what I'm saying, even women. This is an overexaggerated story meant to overtly point out some truths that women share. This is more of a satire on how shitty women treat men than a nonfiction story.
Most women are horribly shallow, especially at my age. You are thinking in the generation in which you grew up, and I'm sorry but its outdated and you have not experienced the new generation of college age kids in america.
You don't think it pisses me of that some blond chick can get promoted ahead of me or some guy catered to a low life girl who played games while I sat at home dateless--I was THIRTY-FIVE when I finally met the man I wanted--what are u, 21? WTF?. You are not going to get what you want- just handed 2 you--and a girl isn't obligated to like you just because you are NICE--you have to be compatible--share the same goals...all you did was make men angry about a situation they cannot control..
Damn this writing template--anyway--what I was saying was, guys are JUST as guilty of chasing girls who look a certain way and not caring about the inner person --until they get burned by the heifer--then they want to become vindictive. what you are doing is destructive, not constructive.
why is it your idea that you are supposed just be handed any girl you want? some guys have it easier--so what?
I suppose what gets my goat is that if a woman came on here and said "I got burned by an asshole, and because of that, I will tell all women to treat men like the jerks they are!" then you and all the men in here high-fiving you would be calling her a bitter, angry bitch.
why--she is sayign nothign no differnt then what you are.
Bsides, I was otssed aside by guys who cahsed afrter bond bimbos--I kenw I coudl give them the lvoe they desires--they called me thier "friend" while they kept gettig
I guess its just my experience. I've dealt with far more women that fit this perfectly than not and that's where this generalization comes from. Sure, its definently overexaggerated, but that's meant for people to look at and think about even more. I mean, clearly its causing a lot of people to stop and think, and that's what I aimed for in the very beginning probably about 4 years ago now.
I said emotional intimacy, meaning that when something goes wrong you always go to the guy for support. I think this is much different from your example of a guidance counselor. This is the guy that you hang out with everyday, sharing all your deepest emotions with. And no, it doesn't automatically mean that you have to have sex with any guy that's nice to you, that's not what I'm trying to say. This was written with someone very specific in mind, not as a mold to fit every girl into.
If you plagarized this article, you need to stop.
I think I figured certain things out; at least to a small degree.
I want a woman. Not a girl. The females you are describing are not women but girls. There can be 18 year old women, and 30 year old girls.
Great women are rare, and they usually get "snatched up" quicker than the guys because of the way our culture is. It won't stop me from looking. I just hope I don't become bitter and nasty with all the waiting and pain.
How many of you girls that are ranting about this article being stupid actually have found that "nice guy" or whatever guy you have been looking for all your life? why when a guy does something stupid its hell for us like when we cheat its all wrong, but when a girl does something stupid and bitches about it we are supposed to kiss your ass and say your sh*t doesn't stink?
I think you are putting too much blame on women. Attraction cannot be controlled. I am not a chick magnet , but I can't go bitter because of that . There is third way between bieng a nice guy and bieng bitter. The third way is to be bold , toughen up and work on one's confidence , attraction self esteem etc....... I think in general , girls are more forgiving and sensitive to feelings than guys. We just storm around looking for the hottest girl.
We cannot control attraction.
Look who the negative comments are coming from? WOMEN. I've had perfectly fine experiences with women - since I changed how I acted. Now I realize this is quite the extreme viewpoint I laid forth, but it was roughly 2 years ago. I was 19 years old and have a different view than I have now.
"He probably cleaned up his look, started making some money, and generally acted like more of an asshole than he ever wanted to be."
That's what I did when I was younger, at least until I realized I could just be me and still meet girls. I was just looking in all the "wrong places" so to speak. Although this guy's rant is pretty one-sided and angry there is a fair amount of truth in there.
Amen! I thank my stars every day that I woke up and realized that the jirks I was in relationships with were only after one thing, and usually got it. I now have a boyfriend who is wonderful and wouldn't trade him for the world
Pretty much true, I would never spend any time with a woman who I had no interest in that had a crush on me. I won't even talk to her it's wasting her time in a destructive way. She needs to be connecting with men she has a shot with. Same with any woman, it's a terrible thing to do to use a man who's got a crush on her if she's not interested. It's disgusting to think about.