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first I think that there are an unusually concentration of INCELS and MGTOWs here in gag. I think most if not all, NOn Trump supporting males are probably a lot more progressive and accepting of woman and what they contribute to our world.. its the bigoted minded male that feels his manhood is threatened when I woman is near him,
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I don't remember ever hearing you insult a woman I respect that
@Wowgirl30q I honestly try my best, I have two daughters, that I adore and respect. and they make me proud. they are women.
Lol being a pathetic feminist with a women are wonderful syndrome is about as progressive as trump.
Maybe try to inform yourself about stuff you know nothing about for one.
@6suejsjsj You talk about "women are wonderful syndrome". You are the one that needs to inform yourself.
@thisismyopinion lol, what? It's an actual psychological condition.
@6suejsjsj Did you saw the cases I talked about with smegskull? You actually think that women get special treatment?
@thisismyopinion it's not a opinion it's even in the law. They also of course get lots of social special treatment. Of course you would need a little bit of intelligence to understand that.
@6suejsjsj So I tell you that women don't get that special treatment, I give real examples and still that hard head of yours can't process information?
@thisismyopinion what examples lol? I gave you real examples which you dismissed because you are completely insane.
@6suejsjsj No, I just answered those examples of your's.
@thisismyopinion and I tell you to get psychological help before it gets worse.
@6suejsjsj I find it funny. You keep telling me thta I simp and what not, but not only I don't believe in the patriarchy, but also you are the one talking about toxic masculinity! What kind of man talks about toxic masculinity? Masculinity is not toxic! No version of it is toxic!
Feminists created that therm to shame men form being strong and manly. And look at you using it as well!
the issue with incels, they are gay and afraid to admit it. i do love woman. they treat me very well. i am also not gay...
If not gay, pussies.
@thisismyopinion masculinity of course isn't toxic. Toxic masculinity isn't real masculinity but a warp view of masculinity.
@Philyouup
What are you even talking about? Lol, is everyone who doesn't think that women in the west have it disproportionately bad a "incel"?
So people who know science and statistics are all "incels" I guess.
When will you people understand that not agreeing with feminist doesn't have anything to do with fucking dating at all. Most women aren't feminist but actual sensible human beings.
@6suejsjsj there no type of masculinity. There is masculinity period.
When did I called you an incel? See why I say that you don't listen?
@thisismyopinion masculinity is very vague.
Thinking you must protect women to the point of putting their needs be ore yours is certainly something many men believe as masculine.
@6suejsjsj I don't believe in putting anyone's need over someone else's for the sake of their gender.
@thisismyopinion you need more self awareness
@6suejsjsj I don't put anyone's needs above anyone because of their gender.
Chivalry and being a gentleman is hot. Not being paranoid that every woman wants to use or hurt them can get them more dating opportunities. I agree that guys should stand up for themselves and not allow women to step on them. They'll respect them more for it. Good mytake!
"Not being paranoid that every woman wants to use or hurt them can get them more dating opportunities." So many guys here need to listen this part.
There are too many "all's" and not enough "some's" on this website. Too many guys on here have one or two bad experiences with women and then judge ALL women based on their experiences. I have had major issues with females too but I am real careful over the words I use on here.
It's good to see someone that even with his issues is intelligent enough to separate "all" and "some". It takes mental strength to do that.
Lmao dude I'm not even gonna waste my time on this.
just strolling and looking at all the points you made on your headlines pretty much screams out that you're a just a white knight in shiny armor thirsting for pussy points.
PS: a while back a dude here once wrote a similar mytake to yours trying to shame MGTOW and other red pill men and it didn't take long until he got called out as a kissless virgin. he even confirmed this himself and something tells me that you are in the same exact boat
and the fact that you got so many pink upvotes and lots of ass kissing replies from female members speaks loud enough
If that "you are just doing that to get girls attention" argument didn't worked before when I was dating it makes even less sense now that I am married. Recently actually it's been a little over a month.
All that is here is my honest opinion believe it or not and I am sure if all of it.
If the upvotes we get from a gender mean we want attention from them then you must really be desperate for some dick... Following your logic here.
But you didn't read it did you? Well no problem I will read your take and we will talk there.
oh yea if you really are married then I wish you all the luck in the world a taking part in the slowest form of prostitution. hopefully it won't end with your new wife divorce raping you
I knew you would be an entertaining one! Thank you! The "slowest form of prostitution"? That's a first never heard it before! Come on I will bite, tell me why marriage is "slowest form of prostitution"?
explaining it to a blue pill cuck like you is a waste of time so I might as well just upload some images...
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@CasaNorba Using images now are we? Very well let's adress them.
The ring traps them as much as it traps us. They sign a contract just like us.
Second one makes no sense, both have now 95.000 not just her.
My father divorced and barely paid a cent.
What is up with your courts there that make the man pay for everything he owns? Doesn't work like that here.
As if! She kept dating me even for the brief time I was unemployed so your point is?
"What is up with your courts there that make the man pay for everything he owns? Doesn't work like that here."
THANK YOU!
for admitting that you have no damn experience or even idea on how feminized nations work. when shit starts working like that over there in Portugal and you get to experience it for yourself then feel free to preach and opiniate all you want. till then shut the fuck and mind your own business!
@CasaNorba Even if it's true that the courts are bias against you guys after divorce, I still believe that you guys are wrong about most of your points. You about the "nature" and "in their DNA", "they don't go for personality", etc.
again like me and everybody else here has told you. a blue pill magina like you will never realize this.
only those who have taken the red pill are aware and know how the matrix works
@CasaNorba You and many fools like you have told me thast yes. Many not fools told me otherwise.
Also you guys think that women are all men destroying monsters. And everything that fits that way of thinking you chose to believe. Anything that puts the blame on them goes. Anything that takes the blame of you goes. Twisting reality so it fits the model you have of it in your head to make it easier to look at yourself and don't feel completly disgusted. That's what I think of all of you.
"Twisting reality so it fits the model you have of it in your head to make it easier to look at yourself and don't feel completly disgusted. That's what I think of all of you."
I guess we are even now cause that is exactly what we think of blue pill morons like you
the response you've gotten from literally all the dudes here speak for itself
@CasaNorba
Again, this site, better saying, the internet has a lot of those idiots who feel the need to talk about their ideas while seeking validation. I just like to call them for the idiots that they are xD.
I don't think this site has an accurate representation of what the average guy is like.
@CasaNorba You really think I would have done this Take if I didn't knew for a fact that I would have many guys like you here all bitter at what I wrote? Of course not!
"Again, this site, better saying, the internet has a lot of those idiots who feel the need to talk about their ideas while seeking validation."
like you?
@CasaNorba
I KNEW YOU WERE ABOUT TO GO WITH THAT xD
But that is what the "I just like to call them for the idiots that they are xD." was for. I am just here to have fun with you supposed enlightened guys.
not as much fun as we are having reading all of your magina clown stories that you try so damn hard to make them sound convincing that eventually pretty much end up lifting your own little skirt in the long run.
@CasaNorba oh no one is having more fun with this than me I can assure you that xD
I have confronted many guys like you in many many questions here just for fun. I do believe in everything that I say and I think you guys make all men look weak so deep down I am doing you a favor.
But I actually have a question for you...
I have seen a question here where a 19 year old girl said she liked sex. That was all, she liked sex. Two men over 30 years old proceeded to call her whore and trash. I went balistic on their faces!
Do you think they where right? Harrassing her like that?
sorry dude I'm still not impressed at the fallacious life that you're desperately trying to convince others you're living.
till then to answer your question I'll ask you a few in return...
do you think YOU are right by being a hero? why can't you just mind your own business? is that girl a friend/relative of yours? are you like this in real life too?
@CasaNorba
Oh I don't care if you believe it or not. When I talk about it it's just to use myself as an example of someone who got a good one. That good ones exist. That you should try to find a good one. But to do that or not is with you I not pressing that key anymore.
Russian roullet is a far more dangerous game than marriage. In marriage you can chose a guy with no bullet in it.
I have all the right to do it. I am a free person I can say whatever I want. Doesn't mean that I should go to Germany, where there is free speach, and sing songs about the Hollocaust of course.
I could mind my business and I often do, but those two just pissed me off with what they were saying. No she wasn't even one of the girl friends I met here.
Yes I am. I have no problem saying everything that is on this Take in a public square with a microphone. About standind out for others, yes I also do that. Last time I did it it was for a male shop clerk being shouted at.
Now for your answer. What do you think of what they did?
if you dont care then why try so hard to persuade others about your fake Disney life?
"In marriage you can chose a gun with no bullet in it."
not in America buddy. over here all have bullets and if they dont then the government will load them up for you. a person who plays Russian roulette with an imaginary gun will never understand that
and yea go ahead and continue being a hero. if you're hero here online then you obviously have no life outside social media and if you do that in person then I hope you dont get your head blown off someday; with a gun that DOES have bullet in it.
what they did was freedom of speech. this is a site to answer questions and drop opinions so you can't expect to get the sugar coated bullshit you want to get. and if those guys did something wrong then let the administrators take care of it. there is no need for you to be a pussywhipped hero here.
@CasaNorba you are the one still talking about it.
You are asking me to believe that in a big ass coutry like yours that there aren't any good women. That is simply impossible. There is no way things are as bad as you describe. I believe that some dudes might had it hard after a divorce, not that they make up for most of cases.
Ya it's illegal to carry a gun here so I am safe from that. Besides, do you hate me that much that you wish me death? Wow!
Yes sadly there ins't any law against being an idiot. Everyone can be one! But just like they have freedom to be idiots I have freedom to call them idiots.
again dumb fuck, do your research before you talk. yea this is a big ass country where women initiate divorce over 50% of the time. could that all be a coincidence?
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and no I never wished death on you, Mr softy ass. I was just warning you of one of the consequences you can suffer when you go around not minding your own business and standing up for strangers like a hero. this happens a lot of times here in America
till then you're still not so lucky over there if guns are illegal for the fact that you can still end up like this guys...
@CasaNorba I already answered you about that. 50% of marriages fail and 70% of divorces are started by women. 40% mora than men. Yes, but tell me how many of those 40% where because he cheat on her, because he started beating her, because he wasn't a good father, because he was a drunk lazy good for nothing fat ass. We are much more likely to change behaviour after marriage than they are that is also a statistical fact.
NO I AM NOT SAYING WOMEN ARE SAINTS ARE NEVER TO BLAME! NO! Of course they also have their share of blame and the cases that you talked about women accusing husbands of rape, even if the minority, are real. But ya we are way bigger assholes than they are.
You still haven't told me why marriage, or any relationship, is the slowest form of prostitution. I am really curious.
Don't worry here people don't carry guns and I know how to defend myself.
That guy tried to defend her to get her. I can tell that by the "Well I tried" part. I don't do it for the sake of getting girls. Like I told you I have no problem hitting them if they try to hit us and I have done it before.
dude very few men here are brave/stupid enough to put their hand on their wives. in fact those women are usually the ones to less likely file divorce. women here file divorce because they want that extra income.
"But ya we are way bigger assholes than they are."
am I supposed to find this offensive? coming from a uninformed cuck like you?
oh yes I did explain to you why is the slowest form of prostitution. if you are too retarded to understand then that is your problem
"I don't do it for the sake of getting girls. Like I told you I have no problem hitting them if they try to hit us and I have done it before."
yeap and then you woke up in your bed wishing that shit was real
@CasaNorba I really don't believe that the majority of women want to divorce because of that.
I am a guy too. I was insulting all of us, not just you.
I don't remember you answering that specifically, but oh well.
You really get the wrong idea about me my friend. Why would I have a problem hurting a girl that is trying to hurt me for no good reason?
"Why would I have a problem hurting a girl that is trying to hurt me for no good reason?"
you do sound like a tradcuck so I thought you would. till then since you are mentally challenged I'm gonna try to answer your question once more...
marriage is the slowest form of prostitution because obviously if you have a girlfriend you're gonna have to be a spender/provider in order to keep the relationship active, all this and the only thing you're girlfriend rewards you with is pussy. when you are married on the other hand all this will eventually go to another level because now you have signed a contract that everything that is yours is also hers. so if any of you break this contract you are automatically the loser who loses it all and all she ever gave you in return was sex
@CasaNorba
It's funny how we think the same of the other. I believe you would never lay your hand on a girl no matter how much she is hurting you scared of a lawsuit after you do.
"you're gonna have to be a spender/provider in order to keep the relationship active". Since when? My wife has a good job, makes pretty much the same as I do. We share all the expenses so your point is kinda dead right there, but let's adress the rest.
I don't need to be a sugar daddy to keep the relationship alive. What you are thinking of is gold diggers, not normal women. You just assume they all want that, like an idiot.
She gives much more than sex. Are you mental? If I just wanted sex from her I would never ever got married. I love who she is, I love spending time and do things with her. She gives all of her and in a good relationship that's how things work.
Yes and everything that is her's is mine, this goes both ways. I give her the same she gives me so in case of a divorce we both lose the same.
@thisismyopinion you are brainwashed by the media to hate your own gender. Really sad.
@6suejsjsj Hate for my own gender? I am telling them to stop acting like they have no power! The way guys like you are always complaining about women like men have no saying in todays world is pathetic!
@thisismyopinion
Well it's a fact that men's issues never get addressed while being arguably worse then womens issues who get loads of attention.
@6suejsjsj men's issues should be adressed more. I agree. But you rerally think that we have it worse than them?
@thisismyopinion
Do you really think we have it easier then them?
@6suejsjsj By far.
@thisismyopinion hahaha
How fucking idiotic are you.
Men kill themselves 5 times as often, die earlier, work more, get harsher sentences, less protection from society, way harder in dating, have to serve in plenty of countries, male genital mutilation is legal pretty much everywhere, dissadvantaged in education in every first world country, earn less then women under 30, get portrait as the reason for everything wrong in the world, get less love from their parents then girls, aren't allowed to show emotions...
And you think men have it "by far" easier then women. You live in a fantasy world. Women have issues too albeit not as many as men in the first world, that's just how it is when you look at the facts. Which you never did, you're probably also too dumb to interpret them anyways.
@6suejsjsj Women attempt suicide more often and the numbers wordwide are actually 1.8 women suicides to 2 men suicides.
Die early is due to many many factors. Type of job, the fact men are WAY more likely to consume drugs or develop addictions, etc.
We talked about the sentences already. We are also far more likely to commit crimes.
We also already talked baout the draft, it's about making the strongest army you can get.
Male genital mutilation does not stop you from doing a thing with your dick, but women genital mutilation does and it's legal in estern countries.
Dissadvantaged in education? Since when? The best students from my classes and from my university were guys!
Blame the fact that women don't drop out of school as much as men for the salary difference under 30. But that doesn not mean men hava any disadvantage. Boys don't quit school because it's harder for them.
We are men! We need a rougher education. Or we might end up complaining about things we have no reason to, like you.
Women make 80% of adult rape victims.
Women make most of domestic violence victims and are far more women murder by their husband then the other way around.
Some industries don't want to hire women, mine included.
In many countries in the world women still can't even work and vote.
They are far more sexually objectified and considered just good for sex.
Parents still don't give their daughter as much freedom as they give their sons.
@thisismyopinion nope men also make more attempts obviously. Women are much more likely to do it because of attention that's why their attempts are found more often. If men fail simply nobody ever knows about it.
Male genital mutilation was popularized in the us to stop boys from masturbating, you should really inform yourself.
The draft thing is because of sexism end of story, "strongest army you can get" was never ever mentioned by any government with a male only draft. Women wouldn't be allowed in the military at all if that was the case but they are and they don't get paid less. It's obviously purely sexism.
Girls get better grades for the same work a fact proven by many studies. 80 percent of teachers are female and girls get way better grades, only a dumbfuck could think that no discrimination is taking place. The whole system is geard towards how girls learn, again you should inform yourself.
Lots of studies actually conducted that women are more likely to be the perpetrators of domestic violence. Men are obviously much less likely to report it.
Archer, J. (2000). Sex differences in aggression between heterosexual partners: A meta-analytic review. Psychological Bulletin, 126(5), 651–680.
The only valid point you have is that women are sexually abused more often. However also here the actual numbers of male victims is no known.
It's really scary how you completely dismiss all male issues but all female issues are real to you. You need professional help.
Does it make you feel less manly if you take male issues seriously? Do you think women are so poor because they look so weak?
Men like you are actually also very likely to be sexist against women since you don't think of them as equals with responsibilities but rather like kids.
Seriously your idiotic simping needs to stop. You are a prime example of toxic masculinity.
@thisismyopinion drug consumption and addiction problems is by the way a strong indication that men have it harder.
Making logical conclusions isn't your thing I know.
Studies also show that men have significantly higher stress levels.
@6suejsjsj Inform yoursel they actually attempt it three times more. And you ar ejust assuming they do it for attention.
"If men fail simply nobody ever knows about it." -» This is nonsense! What is your logic here? Why the hell do you thing we ALWAYS find a women that survives a suicide attempt, but never a man?
No it's not! Dude you want to make your army weaker because of your feelings? Literally go turn yourself into a mental institution!
I told you already, it's totaly different if they are getting ion on their own will. If you want to draft a group of people, you want to go 50/50? Do you really think that will be an advantage?
Besides the test grades there is also the behaviour inside the classroom. Boys score lower on that so they get worse grades. That also translates into less attention to class. You are wrong to think any descrimination is taking place. Worse grades are a result of the male behaviour and interest in school. Proof being we make the vast majority of school dropouts.
Great, a study proved that women ar emore likely to do it. Yet the number of women killed by their partner is still way WAY larger than the other way around. I know you will say that men don't report it bla bla. It would never be enough numbers to tip the scale to the other side.
Yes it is know! Do you really think that no on keeps track of male victims?
I never said I don't care about male issues. But most of them are caused by men not by women. While most of women problems are caused by men.
Are you kidding? Both men and women are amazing! The are amazing. We are amazing.
You are the sexist here in case you didn't realized it.
Of what? Toxic masculinity does not exist!!!
No, just that we make worse choices.
We do have higher paying jobs as well as more dangerous jobs so I get why we would be more stressed.
@thisismyopinion COUNTLESS OF STUDIES PROVE THE DISCRIMINATION IN THE CLASSROOM YOU WORTHLESS MORON. If you don't want to inform yourself then simply shut the fuck up.
Why should girls get so much better grades? Because the whole system is made for them and they even get better grades for the same work which is supported by science. Their would be no difference if their was no discrimination.
I told you the state of science and you don't understand it and just want to believe your women are so poor and men are so advantaged idiology.
That's absolutely sick, you seriously need help.
No point in arguing with someone who does not want to acknowledge any male issues, this shows that you are obviously extremely biased. Crazy. Please never get kids.
@thisismyopinion girls enjoy school more BECAUSE IT IS MADE FOR THEM.
You are so fucking dumb. You don't care about sexism if it's against men but it's so terrible if it's against women. You are a complete pathetic simp. Disgusting.
Men like you are so fucking worthless.
@thisismyopinion if men make the fats majority of school drop outs then THAT PROOFS THAT THEY ARE DISSADVANTAGED YOU FUCKING FOOL. that's how that works. You don't even understand that? Seriously how do you make your money? You are incredibly fucking dumb.
I can just hope that you will get more sensible as you age because your current state is unbearable.
Please don't reply with your bullshit anymore. I don't want to waste my time any longer on you and you just make me sad.
It's so sad how men can be so sexist towards their own gender.
@6suejsjsj I am not sexist against my own gender. Keep believing that if you want and keep not listening. It's not because I say that women have it worse I'm this life that I think we are all bad or some shit. That is your mind making up stuff about me.
If you tell me that since boys are more active and so have a harder time fitting within the system. I agree. We usually have a harder time paying attention not because we are stupid but because our interests usually don't fit. Specially if you look at the books that are usually mandatory. It's always some romance...
But what do you want to do about that? Changing some aspects of teaching and school? I agree! But trust me the boys will still be the one dropping out more and doing worst. NOT BECAUSE BOYS ARE INFERIOR! I am not saying that. But we there will never be a school system that fits us more than girls unless they cut off all the theory and just make it all practice.
And you moron see this as "being made for them". What do you want uh? Do you want to make a system whitout books? All about boys! And let girls fall behind. So that you actually don't feel sorry for yourself? Again feelings over logic.
Actually next year I will be making a child. One of my dreams is to be a father.
You already made several wrong assumptions about me. Yet all of mine about you are spot on so far.
No it doesn't. You are assuming that they leave because it's bias against them. But let's be real that not the reason they drop out.
@thisismyopinion this isn't my opinion, it's simply how it is.
The school system is built around lots of little shit to do you mostly need organization skill which girls have more. Boys prefer bigger projects and real achievement.
Their is zero reason for more boys dropping out or doing worse apart from them getting dissadvantaged.
Why is all the major science done by men? Males hate books I thought.
As I said 80 percent of the teachers are female and it is proven that they give girls better grades for the same work.
@thisismyopinion so your dumbass logic is as long as boys do worse everythings ok but if it were the other way around not.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I talk about boys being dissadvantaged and you immediately assume that I mean I want to dissadvantage girls. Your feminist brainwashing can be seen again.
@6suejsjsj So you do what to take all the theory and just make it all practice. That would flip the scale to the other side and make physically less capable people in a great disadvantage.
You are asking boys and girls to sit down, be quiet and lear. Then go home and study. This simple process is much more appealing to girls than to boys on average. That is why they quit more. Not because their grades are bad. But simply because of their total lack of interest in school life.
I never said men were less capable. I always saw the boys be the better students, but we were also the worse ones. IQ charts work in a similar way.
Yet the majority of university teachers are men. Women are the majority of teachers on tender ages.
But since when we do everything worse? We never did and we never will do ANYthing worse.
"I talk about boys being dissadvantaged and you immediately assume that I mean I want to dissadvantage girls." -» when did I said this?
@6suejsjsj let's make one thing straight, I believe I said it before, I am not a feminist.
@thisismyopinion i already told you that if girls like it more then it is made more for them which dissadvantages boys and no it doesn't have to be that way.
@6suejsjsj "like it more then it is made more for them". What kind of logic is this?
@thisismyopinion COMPLETELY REGULAR LOGIC YOU FUCKING IDIOTIC PIECE OF WORTHLESS TRASH.
They like it more because it is made specifically for them.
Is that so hard for your little brain to understand?
Wtf is wrong with you?
@6suejsjsj By your logic there was a table of people going "hey we need to make school only for girls and boys can just deal with it." And your proff for this is that girls like it more.
@thisismyopinion eh no that's not what I was saying at all. It's just natural for a system to get Feministen when mostly females have the say. That should be obvious.
People can also be dissadvantaged without that being the result of a conscious choice.
@6suejsjsj The school system hasn't changed much in the last decades. Much before feminism started to have the negative impact that people think it has.
@thisismyopinion it has changed its now run by women who give girls better marks for the same work and set the whole system so that girls have it easier. It's a proven thing you are just an uninformed fool talking out of your ass.
It was also worse for boys before feminism. Thats all a bit too complicated for you though.
@6suejsjsj I have been around you know? I have been to school and I can tell you that those grades that boys get are due to their behaviour in class, not because they are boys.
And you hear me saying this and you think I am being bias. NO! That is how things work you moron! Didn't you went to shcool? Who caussed more trouble in class by far? At every age? We do! So why lowe grades surprise you?
I’m tired of men like you calling wives prostitutes. How very disrespectful. Shame on you.
That shit don't happen at my house. But then again me and my wife are older than most on here.
I may be married for 25 years and I still walk on the curb side of the street, open doors for her, seat her at the table before me.
I also have respect for her, her ideas and her thoughts. But I'm also not her doormat. It is a blend of power. Not one should have more than the other.
I have so much respect from you right now for those words. I completely agree with you.
Well everything here is pretty good but I have a problem with two things, women’s sexual history does determine their dating value and women slut-shame more often then men. I wrote a paper on this literally 3 days ago haha, after 2 guys the likelihood of staying in marriage plummets, their reported happiness declines, and so does their reported self confidence. Though men have the same effect, it’s to a much more reduced degree. As for slut-shaming, I don’t like to see it when it comes from either sex but I can link to some research that shows it very commonly from woman to woman as opposed to man. Also, I simply prefer to be the dominant person in the relationship. I won’t ridicule another guy for being the submissive one though, it’s all preference.
I know there are studies that prove that. On the other hand they show statistics. They mean that an X amount of the population under certain conditions behaves according the pre established premise. As long as that X is not 100% I will not judge a women based on her sexual history. It's likely to be that way, fine! But I can make my own decisions on what her worth is as a partner.
Yes it comes a lo from women, but men do this too. On this site I see it on a daily basis. Did you read that part about 40 year olds insulting teenager girls for enjoying sex? That pissed me off.
Nothing wrong with wanting to be more dominant in a relationship. Like you said it's a preference and everyone must respect that.
fake
@5yrup "fake"?
Was that to me or to Immanuel_Kant?
If that was to me I have no idea what you are referring to.
Well that “X” varies a bit but the study applies to somewhere between 80-85 percent of women and men. What do you mean on the other hand they show statistics? I’m intrigued. Lastly, I know men do it too but on a much more sporadic basis. Nothing good comes out of slut shaming, though people will do what they want, regardless of reality.
I didn't meant anything that you didn't understood. It was just that those studies are based on statistics. And statistics don't say that 100% of the girls with many past sexual partners will have bad relationships. I agree with you when you you say there is a tendency. The studies back you up it's a fact. I just say that I prefer to judge them by myself. I will not be turned off if she says "I had 50 sexual partners over my life". But I will be turned off if she says "I cheated on every single one of them".
Oh ok, well some guys like it she cheated on all of them. I’m not here to judge, takes up too much energy anyway. I understand, have a nice day
Thanks you too.
you forgot to put guys that have a learning disability that get ashamed by women lot more even when they short. they can't control what learning disabilities has or their own height. some learning disabilities has been taken vulnerability by some women and they should speck out lot more and yet ashamed by the modern feminist
No one should ever be shamed for who they are or the disabilities they have.
I have been talk to guys that have autistic and they got stare lot with women were laughing at them while having a breakdown or meltdown. these girls also did have a learning disability has as well. I told a member staff about that were making fun of one guys with a have autistic
You are a good person then ☺️
Dude. Seriously. I don't even know you, but I'm fucking proud of you.
Thank you. I wanted to post this for a while now. I want this nonsensical, let's use the right word here, fear of girls to disapear! It honestly hurts my pride to see so many guys acting like this.
It's not going to disappear but the more people who come forward the further we move in the right direction.
I agree. Many guys posted here angry at me, but others actually congratulated me on this take. Since there are guys agree that something has to change there is hope.
A lot of guys just use GaG as a place to come to bitch at women for existing.
That is why I made this take. Some things had to be said. I didn't put "embarrassed" on the title for nothing...
@thisismyopinion
Yes the special treatment girls get really has to change.
@6suejsjsj What special treatment?
@thisismyopinion
In education, laws, quotas, socially, dating...
It's really not hard to know this. Like, do you not have eyes?
@6suejsjsj no idea what advantages they have that we don't in education. About laws I already told you to read them and realise that they always have that line that creates a loophole around it. I don't have diffrent quotas for women in my country. Socially and in dating both sexes have their advantages and disadvantages. I can talk about it all day bring it bitch!
@thisismyopinion
Yeah, no point in arguing with someone who doesn't know anything.
@6suejsjsj You only see your side clearly.
So your thesis is, "everybody is evil, dont be a pussy."
Wow. Immasculation isn't cool if it's being done to women, OR to men. Dont shame men for demeaning women and then immediately demean men.
Chivalry is manners. But female chivalry is not the exact same behavior as Male chivalry. Men and women have different needs.
The existance of rape does not justify completely selfish and horrible behavior of women toward men. Not all women are evil. But some are.
Basically yes that is it.
Some behaviours are just wrong no matter how you look at them. I am calling them out on those yes. Also I said "some" right at the start. This was meant to help, to give some insight.
Oh yes some are no question. Their action have no justification and they need to be hold accountable for them. I mentioned this.
Your a male feminist? If so stop please.
No I am not.
Not you bud the guy who wrote this whole post at bare minimum does he hold women accountable for anything bad they do.
Seriously
what do you mean?
I agree
@Number39 No I am not. Believe it or not. Feminism base idea is very good, equality. But there is harm being done to men in name of feminism and no good being done to us. So no I am not one.
I am the first one to say that men don't have it good in some areas. We do have social, political and economic disadvantages compared to women. But they are not neraly enough to have a meltdown over! Just like women don't! I am against anyone that likes to complain and point all the problems to one gender. Some of the problems a gender has were created by their own gender! Read the first topic, the world is evil! People do bad things! The world is not fair! Nothing to do, but to deal with it. Whining just makes us look weak!
We can talk about problems yes! But to adress a problem and to atribute all the fault in the world to one side and bitch about it are two different things.
1. AWALT - women are hypergamous. They won't admit it. Nothing wrong with it. Just a fact.
2. I agree but I have been in situations where a girl acts like a bitch to even "Hi" or a wave of hand.
3. Why should I be the emotional pillar? Especially considering that she has already friendzoned.
4. I agree. Most of them are crybabies. I think this is because they haven't understood what mgtow means. For me, it means loving myself more than a woman. This way, if the bitch screws up I am not hurt. Yet, till she is with me. I make her happy.
5. Yeah it does! Study has shown that. Women with more sex partners have more divorces.
6. Cool thinking. I like this. Men are not loving themselves enough.
Summary - good take. I treat my friends even female friends the same way as I treat the male one's. If they want more from me, they gotta earn it.
1. That is false. My faincee had one of the top executives of her company making a move on her knowing she was engaged! She refused. He swimms in money and could get her a promotion easily. Yet she stayed with me and not him.
2. They don't have to. They noticied what you do even if they don't acknowledge it.
3. If you are not in a relationship with her you don't have to be her emotional pilar.
4. MGTOW mean different thing to different people your aproach is one that I never heard of since you do want to make a women happy. You just want to do it while keeping yourself safe from harm. I respect your way.
5. That study says that 100% of the women that had many past sexual partners end up divorcing? No? Then I will not judge a person just because of her sexual past! I can take conclusions about her value as a partner myself.
6. *High Five*
It's good that guys can relate with what I wrote here, even if not with everything. But to talk about the stuff we don't agree on is half of the objective.
Many men on here are “butt hurt” about rejection can I relate sure but I have never blamed it on all women and I never will especially since I have rejected almost as much as I’ve been rejected
Yes many are. That was expected.
Good that some actually can think straight.
Thank you
Just like many women are butthurt about being rejected.
@Aiko_E_Lara never had that issue
@Wowgirl30q except i'm not only talking about you yourself
uhh...😕 some parts are ok some straight up bullshit like the chivalry part
Your post wants to convey that men should be confident and stand for themselves and you start telling we should pay on dates , hold doors and turn yourself into best boyfriend 🤦🏻♂️ like don't you see the contradiction
the thing is why tell anyone how they should do something or they should behave everyone has his or her experiences with life and can decide themselves how they want to live it.
Men need to realize they can be something much more in this life than being a perfect boyfriend material😂
What does confidence and standing up for yourself has to do with doing those things? You can be confident and hold doors, pay for dinner and be a great boyfriend. And not a single one of those requires you to bow your head. So no I don't see the contradiction.
Yes they can life how they want I am not going to chace them around with a gun forcing them to do anything. And I know some experiences might bring people to believe this or that. I have examples that I have seen in my life of women being total bitches to men. I do. Thing is people, including me, need to be able to realise that isolated cases don't make the rule. One bad action can stick into your mind much more than a good one. This is to try to make guys understand that.
Yes we can! That sentence was directed at the ones that do want a girlfriend, but are taking the wrong approach. I agree that a men worth is not mesured by the women he is with! 100%! But some guys do want a partner, they have that goal. Those words were for them.
just understand the game bro if you are happy living your life women will automatically be attracted to you
if you want a partner and trying to mold yourself into so called boyfriend then there's not much hope
You need to realize you're a chick and stop settling for broke ass men
@Wowgirl30q what?
Not you
Try to be a fat, but happy, guy that happly lives with his mother. Has a very happy pet spider that he loves very much. Spends half of his day playing video games that make him super happy.
He is the happiest guy alive. No girls won't come near him in a thousand years.
On the other hand you have... well me! I was unhappy with what I was. I wanted to be better! So I started to work out, joined a muay thai gym, changed my wardrobe, read more and yes they flocked around me after, I have to be honest here two years. It took some times yes, but hey it worked.
hmm... rather than expecting girls to like you for who you are be someone who is totally comfortable being themselves around anybody.
But tbh you can be the hottest guy around and still feel dissatisfied with your dating life
it's foolish to expext girls to like you for who you are if who you are has no redeeming qualities.
Yes he can I agree, but being hot definitely helps.
so the thing is here sir everyone has redeeming qualities but that can only be seen and liked by someone of a similar nature. Saying someone you are shit for being you is the reason some looses their self esteem. And that is what some immature women do , some guys take that rejection to heart and stop being themselves because someone didn't appreciate them for who they are, they start doubting themselves.
if you are looking for love than being perfect boyfriend material shouldn't matter
One must be loved for who he is I agree. But if you don't want to improve yourself and jus stay the way you are, you have no right to complain to the seven winds that no women wants you, that they are all superficial, etc. A men's worth is not mesured by his physical strength, I state this is my take. i just don't want to see so, so many guys complaining about their situation when the majority of them doesn't even try to change it.
It shouldn't, but it does. Look I am not saying that look matter more when it comes to find the one you love. However reality is that physical attraction is important too. She can love you deeply, but if she doesn't find you even a little bit attractive things are not going to work. Relationships are made of a physical and an emotional part. Some give more importance to one, some to the other. But no need for hypocrisies they both matter in some level.
if you find the right woman then you don't need to change yourself. Yes they should improve themselves but he himself decides what he needs to change not what society wants him to change. For eg. Girls will say be a man and pay on dates , how can paying for someone else make you what you already are.
If a girl says she loves you but doesn't find you physically attractive then that guy is stupid enough to be in relationship with that girl she will surely leave him. But she won't make it clear at first but hurt him after
I think I should have cleared some things out in this take. Look you don't want to pay for dates fine. My "war" is with some people that insult who does. You do you, fine. This is something that I should clear out. I am not sying you must do this or that to be men. But some men do like to act the old fashion way and they are shamed for doing it, by other men! That is when I lose it! You do you and the right girl will love it.
She will not date him in the first place.
Thank ya!!! This is what I’m thinking all the time when when I see guys talk dumb shit on here. I’m just too lazy to type it all out 😂
I agree with everything you said. Cool take bro.
Someone had to say it. And look who many guys are already hatting on me...
I'm posting it everywhere I can
Don't read the BS
Confident men and 98% of women are supporting you sir
I love him dude
@Wowgirl30q I love to counter their BS. Still it's good to know that I have support.
a lot
@thisismyopinion
Because you sprout complete pathetic bullshit.
@6suejsjsj feel free to prove me wrong.
Be prepared for the rush of angry whining manchildren 👀
I know. Like I said I am ready to defend my ideas here.
I know I'm going to try to help him
@Wowgirl30q Thanks. I actually get a kick out of arguing with them and prove them wrong. But feel free to join in on the fun.
@thisismyopinion
Proofing what wrong? You are just a uninformed fool.
@6suejsjsj Tell me your what your views are then. You are just saying you disagree, but not what you disagree with or why you disagree.
@thisismyopinion
EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS COMPLETE PATHETIC BULLSHIT.
I don't argue with fucking idiots who are completely uninformed.
You idiotic male feminist.
Hahaha, why do only women whine in real life then cutie?
Want quotas because they aren't good enough. Women are so pathetic and childish. Can't take them seriously.
@6suejsjsj Oh my god! Someone is angry. Did you pacifier fell off?
You do know that calling someone uninformed should usually come with a reason as to why. Give me arguments and I will give them back to you!
You are single aren't you? Probably also a virgin. Look at this "Want quotas because they aren't good enough. Women are so pathetic and childish. Can't take them seriously." The amount of hate here. Dude no one wants to suck your dick deal with it. Raging about it isn't going to help.
And on the process you are making men look like fools! You make us look like whiny, sad, desperate, bitter, fools!
@thisismyopinion what are you fucking talking about? I talk about unfair, sexist laws against men and you talk some gibberish about getting laid.
As a good looking and intelligent guy, the for me best looking girls have been into me. But of course you are framed to believe that anyone who doesn't agree with feminist agenda is a "incel".
Of course I am angry about pathetic women who want special treatment. You are a fool if you aren't.
Why are you not answering? Why do women whine so much and new special treatment anywhere unlike men?
Women feel threatened by men realizing that they shouldn't get special treatment everywhere.
It's really pathetic. Grow up, you are a big girl now.
@6suejsjsj You said this "Want quotas because they aren't good enough. Women are so pathetic and childish. Can't take them seriously." Not a single sentence here is correct and only the first one is about quotas. Give me a link or something that talks about those quotas.
I never called you an incel. And I don't have a feminist agenda. You are still missing my point.
Go ahead! Be angry about women who want special treatment. I get that. I will get angry at them with you. BUT I will also be angry at the men that because if those few became afraid of women.
The stories I hear about those women asking for specail treatment are bashed by both men and women who have common sense. Same thing now with BLM, some idiots want special treatment, but most of them jsut want to be equal.
"Women feel threatened by men realizing that they shouldn't get special treatment everywhere." What? I am puzzled. Since when is this a thing?
@thisismyopinion since 20 years at least. Their are quotas in most countries.
@6suejsjsj Again give me more info on those quotas you keep talking about.
@thisismyopinion you never even heard of women quotas? But you think your opinion is valid when you don't have any clue what you are talking about.
@6suejsjsj I haven't no. Shows how much of a little issue it is.
But come on hit me with them. Give me info on them.
@thisismyopinion no it's actually because your an uninformed fool.
People generally don't think dissadvantaging men is an issue.
Just like you, you disgusting whore.
@6suejsjsj Stop stalling and then talk to me about them, if they are that huge of a deal. I bet you can't and that you are just talking out of your ass.
i wish there were more guys in this world that think the same as you. And dont get me wrong i dont have anything against guys lol. Great take.
Thanks. And don't worry, unlike most guys that insulted me for this take, I don't believe that you girls have anything against us.
Luckily I'm one of those guys! :D
What a great article, no it’s more than that, it’s a brilliant article you have written - thank you so much. xxxx
I am the one that thanks you for those kind words.
You deserve them for your thoughtfulness 😘
I see I’ve got a thumbs down for my view - why am I not surprised
I don’t know why you are so angry. If you think about it, it’s a good thing if men aren’t in compliance with your formula of being a good mate. There’s less competition.
Good point there... Damit why did I do this?
Huge balls
you need to actually compete in order to have less competition. clearly he doesn't have any and that should answer his own question on "Damit why did I do this?"
@CasaNorba Thanks for not getting a joke. Of course I know what I did it, it was because of the few guys here who told me they had a lot to think of after they read this Take and for all the fun I had talking to the others.
Hahaha like any intelligent women wants a pathetic cuck. Lol wtf are you thinking.
@6suejsjsj Women don't want cucks. You are right! They also don't like bitter and butthurt guys. They want quality guys. And I am guessing you are single so you take your conclusions.
@thisismyopinion it may surprise you but getting a girlfriend is no achievement for me. A relationship is a hobby that's it.
@6suejsjsj "relationship is a hobby " So to you another person is a hobbie? So nice to keep knowing you.
@thisismyopinion no the relationship thing itself. It's not that big of a deal nor important.
@6suejsjsj You want to end up alone?
@thisismyopinion end up? You can begin and end relationships at any point in your life. I certainly don't believe in long term monogamy, its unnatural for humans but does work for some.
@6suejsjsj Yes, how you will end up. I can guess.
@thisismyopinion I don't care wtf you idiotic fool think.
I know that you are going to end up divorced being ashamed of the simp you once were. Lol.
@6suejsjsj You don't care and yet you keep answering me...
Trust me, you will end up alone, while I will have my wife until the day one of us dies. I know who I picked.
@thisismyopinion I don't care what a complete idiot thinks. I just hope I can make them a bit more sensible. Of course I also don't want people to buy into your bullshit while reading this.
I don't care about your marriage, I don't even want to ever marry anyone.
@6suejsjsj I don't think you will have to worry about never getting married.
About this take don't worry many people agree and many disagree. At the end of the day I am telling men to grab the life by the balls. And you? You are telling them to feel sorry for themselves. Go fuck yourself!
@thisismyopinion ehm lol, I don't think their are many girls I couldn't get actually.
I never really even talked about dating. Not a important topic.
I tell men to not now down to women and do whatever they want to do. Don't care too much about women, there are enough fish in the see and more important things to do.
@6suejsjsj I don't know if you are attractive or not. But I really doubt that sentence.
I also don't want men to bow down to women. Neither to be afraid of them.
@thisismyopinion I don't care what you doubt you RIDICULOUSLY dumb simp. You bow down to women obviously. What a worthless piece of trash you are.
Go to your poor victim girlfriend and give her your money.
@6suejsjsj I am the first one to say to guys not to bow to women! It's literally one of my points here you moron!
@thisismyopinion people talk and act differently all the time...
@6suejsjsj It's just amazing... I bow down to women simply because of my honest opinions. I don't expect to get in womens grace with what I say. It's my honest view on things.
@thisismyopinion your honest view comes from not understanding the world in the slightest bit and feminist brain washing.
@6suejsjsj I am not a feminist and I understand how things work. I know that you and many like you are the ones brainwashed because you hear of a few instances where men get screwed over because by women and immediatly became afraid that it might happen to you.
First there is a difference between men an women, guys an girls. Girls never grow up love to be pampered, appreciate those little things. Women love little things too. But are more tuned in, set in their ways.
Men and guys very some are more aggressive, guys like hanging out with other guys. Men get absorbed to much, makes them look adorable. Then main difference between guys and men is we don't know which one we are cause the similarities are the same. The ladies often make our decision for us, causing us to accept or change?
Last point, very awesome speech! Your definitely gonna get laid bravo.
The whole running to the car thing in the rain? Pick restaurants with bars in them or go to a mall on rainy night. Think smarter not work harder?
Why did you wanted to state the difference between them?
My fiancee doesn't even has an account on this site. She is not going to read it. I would get have sex whatever I posted this or not.
We wanted that specific restaurant, bad luck it didn't had a bar. It had been a sunny day. It started to rain when we where already inside eating. But thanks for the suggestions.
I think you're right on a lot of points, but not on the overall picture.
Women no longer focus on being a benefit to a man's life. That's fine, no problem. But they still expect a man to focus on them and make life easier for them. That's where the problem is. It's no longer a culture of serving each other.
I think that if a woman is going to focus on herself and not be too concerned with her man, then he should focus on himself and not be too concerned with her. If she focuses on taking care of him and making life smooth for him, then he should do the same for her. But neither should serve the other without benefitting from it.
I agree with everything except with the very first sentence.
Both sides of the relationship should try to improve the other's life. Work together, help each other and love each other. That is what a relationship is. If one doesn't want that, like you said, fine. But they can't expect the other to do it if they don't. 100% agree with you.
Now about "Women no longer focus on being a benefit to a man's life". that is up each individual. To get a good relationship you need a good girl. If there are less then what used to... maybe. But there are still many out there. I found one.
Saying that's up to each individual ignores social pressure. That's a mistake. Women are bullied for having the mindset that they should take care of their men.
If you were to get a general consensus of the behavioral model (ignore words, they mean nothing) among modern women, you'd see that they think men should stand on their own without help. You'd also see that they think a man should help his woman with her problems, be "chivalrous" (which is just a code word for "servile"), and never expect anything from her in return.
Don't be fooled by semantics.
I never once heard of women being bullied by wanting to pamper their husbands. I have female friends that are engaged and others that are married and they love to spoil their husbands. Their husbands do the same for them of course.
What do you mean with stand on their own?
Well chivalry is to be done without expecting anything is return. That doesn't mean that girls don't do good things for men just like we do those small acts for them.
We actually agree with each other. Except about the amount of good quality girls out there.
I think our disagreement is mostly cultural. You live in a country where women still believe in treating a man with respect and appreciation. I live in the U. S. A woman who believes in being a housewife is ridiculed here.
Do all of them believe in that?
Here women don't want to be housewifes anymore. But they still like to make their men happy.
Our women have gone beyond that. You rarely hear anything about keeping men happy. There are some good ones around, but they don't speak up much because they get laughed at and kinda bullied for even suggesting that a woman do anything for a man.
" they get laughed at and kinda bullied for even suggesting that a woman do anything for a man."
I highly doubt this.
I've seen it firsthand.
I have seen the opposite.
Do you live in the US?
No. But many girls that I met here are and they don't agree with you. Look I believe in what you saw. I just find it hard that it's always like the case.
I am a girl and I approve this
Don't get me from, I don't hate the guys but am glad someone understands us.
So thank you
Thank you. I know most of you don't hate us. Part of the reason I made this take was to tell guys that.
@ThisIsMyOpinion thanks