You are saying woman can act like total bitch 24/7 without the fear of getting the equal and opposite reaction from men. We have to just sit down and put-up with the "gal bitching about everything" cuz We are Confident even though we know YOU are the weak gender... Clap to your concept. You manipulated the concept of the whole confident man thing to suit your needs, I do acknowledge your intention that you want the good quality confident man back TO DO ALL THE SHIT WORK FOR YEA (do heavy Jobs) but your are not gona give-up all the shit ass EXTRA rights you got to get a man (50% property loss for example) "Every decision have consequences so better put up with them" They modern guys are bitches (femi makes them one) cuz that's what ladies like and now 4th gen have started to realize its fucking idiotic. I am not going cheer you up for speaking in favour of the man BUT I WILL TRY TO POINT OUT YOUR HYPOCRISY for manipulating the concept to fuel your needs.
Like me get ready to recieve a lot of hate for this. Don't let it bother you. Keep making takes like this to tell everyone that being a men is not about being violente, rude or cocky for no reason. So many people get that wrong. We don't need to be the loudest guy in the room to be men. A men is agressive when he has to! And sometimes is necessary! Other than that a men treats others with respect and likes to be there for them.
I agree on the parts where a man should respect a woman, but respect is a two way thing, you have to give it to earn it. So both women and men should respect each other.
Guys, confidence is the #1 thing that women look for in a man (often above looks), and nothing else can really replace it or compensate for the lack of it, so it should be one of, if not your primary focus.
As dated a reference it might be, it's still valid: think about James Bond. He takes no shit from anyone - male or female - but he isn't over-sensitive or easily offended. He's focused on his task, but he's otherwise laid back and isn't threatened by much of anything. He's always got a sly little smile on his face. That's confidence, and women find it VERY attractive.
It isn't, studies have shown looks trumps confidence and I can vouche for that because of my lack of confidence as a younger man but was still very successful with women because of my looks
Confidence is a good trait that will serve you good in life though, never wrong to have it.
@Pulimuli As you point out, the really good-looking don't need a lot of help getting women, so I'm talking to the guys who are less than great-looking (i. e., the majority).
@Imhot467 Great, but what about the 90% of guys who don't look like Chris Hemsworth? For them, the answer is confidence.
And, no one is saying that confidence will automatically get you any and every girl you want - nothing will do that (but looking like Chris Hemsworth would help!). Confident guys still get shot down plenty - but they don't let that bother them, and they go right back to asking out the next girl, and the next, without being slowed down by those rejections. And before very long, they have a girl. A confident guy may be single a couple of weeks - a "nice guy" who lacks confident may be single for YEARS and miserable the whole time. Which would you rather be?
Dude what are you talking about? Guys don’t have to look like Chris Hemsworth to be attractive to women. To imply that is stupid. It should be clear that many confident guys getting rejected means that confidence is not most important to women. Not over looks. By the way what you’re describing is desperation, not confidence.
Again, this post isn't about the good-looking guys - they don't need help. It's about everyone else. And if your looks are only average, or are below average (which, together, is the majority of men), then what do you have to offer women to get them interested? The answer is CONFIDENCE. Confidence is the opposite of desperation, and I'm not sure how you could get those confused. Confidence is also not arrogance - arrogance is aggressive, confidence is not.
Well it is necessary that he has something to be confident about. If he's ugly, has a bad personality, poor as dirt, etc then being confident won't get him anywhere
You make no sense. You old men on here never know what you’re talking about. Asking out a whole bunch of women while getting rejected by all of them waiting for a woman to say yes is desperate. Not confident at all. You’ve probably done that. I’m done.
@mistixs Yeah 99% sure if a Rhino looking dude who looks like a homeless man came at different women including you all confident asking you out, you females would reject. Unless he asks out other Rhinos.
@mistixs Obviously that's true, but if you're an "average" guy with a decent job, a car, your own place, decent but not spectacular looks, etc., the difference between getting a girl and not getting a girl is largely going to be confidence.
If you dress and smell like a homeless person and you are broke and have nothing going for you, then obviously you are in no position to try to date in the first place. But we all know this is the rare exception - as I mentioned multiple times, I'm talking about the majority of guys, most of whom are "average."
"Macho men" and "Men who aren't afraid to speak their mind" is, in my experience, two diametrically opposed groups.
Most of the macho men I've met have spent their whole life trying to be what other people tell them they should be. They're some of the most weak-willed dudes I have ever met.
You want to test it? Try this: Walk up to any 'macho man' and looking up and down at them judgingly and say, "A real man wouldn't do..[X thing they do.]" The results are generally hilarious as their entire 'confidence' is a ruse built around living up to very narrowly defined expectations.
Takes men to make men out of boys and with a lack of fathers comes a lack of men. Strong Male role model substitutes are good like big brothers, friends who do have that fatherhood shaping them into men and helping others become men. But couple the rise of single motherhood, with downplaying the importance of Male role models and you get boys who never really learned how to become men.
It's not popular to say, because it's taken as a sleight against single mothers when it's not in the least. You can have the best mom in the world, but she is still no replacement for a father figure and that hurts both the child and the single mother to hear. Most men who grow up like that, even if they adamantly fight the idea will come to realize it in the future. Usually when they have kids of their own.
sidenote: Macho and laid back usually aren't traits found in the same person lol. Unless you meant "at ease" rather than laid back per se. At ease in the environment means he feels he can handle himself and is safe. Laid back means, chill, calm in his personality. Macho is inherently a display, showing off. Very much not laid back lol.
A confident man treats his woman right because he's gotten rid of the ones who don't act right. He doesn't need to get aggressive or yell. She either does what she's supposed to do or she's gone. If she messes up, they can both discuss it calmly. If she can't discuss it calmly, once again, she's gone. If she tries to manipulate or control him. If she tries to change him. If she's a source of drama instead of peace. If she tries to take advantage of him... all valid reasons to let her go find someone who's willing to put up with her crap.
“Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
“But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.” - Matthew 7:24-27
I think that also applies for a man's masculinity and what he builds it upon.
Well, I fix my own cars, I replaced my own kitchen, sided my own home, build my own deck. I grew up with a carpenter... I also am creative. I treat women respectfully I don't let people walk on me.. But I don't think you can say.. I'm the toughest, most macho guy in the room, but I am not intimidated but such, but I am laid back! .
I've always considered my dad as an example of a dude thats got confidence. He works hard at his job, he fixes up cars, he's creative with guitar and drums (he used to be in a few bands), loves/protects his family and is a chilled dude that gets along with everybody. Unless somebody pushes his buttons then he will get his point across to them lol
Confidence and Arrogance should not be confused. Many, many people confuse the two, girls and guys alike. People who know next to nothing act like they know everything while people who know much understand the difficulty involved in it and may come off "not confident".
But all the things ya listed in this topic are things women have forced on guys over the years. If "boys will be boys" is toxic masculinity or some BS, then you're gonna get a bunch of boys who won't be boys. Take responsibility, it rests on your shoulders and yours alone.
Its because this generation of millenials are a bunch of pussy twats... all this "everyone is equal"and say no to violence garbage has neutered them... now days you hear them outside a bar yelling " oh yeah well I'll call the cops on you" instead of a good old ass kicking where a couple buddys jump in and someone leaves in an ambulance... It's sad
I partly agree and partly disagree. I think the confidence and ability to impress themselves is important for anyone. However I'm not muscular and I don't really even want to be. I never want to fight with anyone. I would like to defend someone I care about, but I would do it verbally. I agree that men shouldn't be too feminine (like wear women's clothes or makeup). Also I would always respect my girlfriend, but I would argue with her if it's needed.
I think that boys and girls are a bit different by their thinking, but not as different as in the stereotypical gender roles. In the history they were mostly dragged into those roles. I bet majority of the men didn't want to be violent and do physical work and majority of the women didn't want to spend their day in some room cooking and doing dishes.
Treat people how you would like to be treated. Give people respect when they earn it and try to do the right thing. Don't think you have to be manly. Be authentic and genuine and that will attract many people in your life.
Making you horny by beating the shit out of each other at every opportunity? In what way is that appealing? Where does that actually get us as a species?
Do you actually enjoy sexist behavior? Because this shit is sexist behavior that paints you as a damsel in distress. A sex object for the winner to have his way with, as long as he keeps in line. What a world to live in, where half the population gives up their humanity for base lust.
Scratch that, all of humanity. Because by the same token, men are merely power objects to entertain women with.
Overcoming adversity builds confidence , I am glad I went through Britsh Army training and shortly after the challenging P Company , paratrooper training. Helps keep me going as a FT working single dad , you mention several skills , but this also takes time and often money to learn , not every man can do this due to his situation, and some may not have the aptitude either. Also have a background in various combat sports / arts , inc boxing , TKD and my faves Muay Thai and Lethwei , I had to learn to fight bullies back when younger and smaller.
I believe in masculine virtues all the underlying principles of it. I appreciate the benevolent strength men bring to the table, although you justification for why guys should act this way isn't well thought out. The issue is that while as a general principle it's good, on an individual level you can't justify why I should meet those criteria -- and it's the demand itself that I feel makes a women less worthy of the considerations masculinity. Being a woman in-and-of-itself, is not a justification. We could apply the same approach you took toward lesser men wherein you call them a bitch: We can just as easily say if you can't justify that treatment then shouldn't you be treated like a lesser man in the same way?
I suppose I agree with part of it. Men are confident at dating and duping their women and own kids and can be skinny, but as for building and fixing cars and houses, we are all to busy to do that from big government that Women vote for also. Blame yourself also honey.
About automotive maintenance, you know it's funny I once started a lesson in my class regarding basic automotive maintenance. My students are 10 and 11 years old. They were very intrested in learning how to maintain a car. But I found that the administration got pissed that I did such a lesson. Ultimately I had to stop doing it on class time. I wound up doing these lessons during recess. I was surprised at how many students gave up their recess voluntarily to learn about automotive maintenance.
Yet another effect of cultural Marxism. The attempt to redistribute imagined social power from men to women has made cucks. Men are taught to act like women and that masculinity is "toxic". The lack of normal men you're seeing isn't due to men suddenly changing it's coming from outside, young men's heads are being messed with from grade school on.
@sonnysunshine True but it's a lot more than feminism. These people are communists it's a web that covers any group they can get their hands on. Anyone with an ax to grind with the society we live in is a potential ally to them and they will go after that group. Women, minorities, Muslims who ever they can get. The thing is it's all lies , they don't actually support any of these people, they're lying to them and using them. If they get into power they'll kill a lot of them. I can just about guarantee you a lot of the antifa types names and addresses are on a computer somewhere to be picked up and shot come the revolution. They already have people picked out for the top positions and they don't want any butt hurt or trouble from those people. It's how they always do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
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You are saying woman can act like total bitch 24/7 without the fear of getting the equal and opposite reaction from men. We have to just sit down and put-up with the "gal bitching about everything" cuz We are Confident even though we know YOU are the weak gender... Clap to your concept.
You manipulated the concept of the whole confident man thing to suit your needs, I do acknowledge your intention that you want the good quality confident man back TO DO ALL THE SHIT WORK FOR YEA (do heavy Jobs) but your are not gona give-up all the shit ass EXTRA rights you got to get a man (50% property loss for example)
"Every decision have consequences so better put up with them"
They modern guys are bitches (femi makes them one) cuz that's what ladies like and now 4th gen have started to realize its fucking idiotic.
I am not going cheer you up for speaking in favour of the man BUT I WILL TRY TO POINT OUT YOUR HYPOCRISY for manipulating the concept to fuel your needs.
Like me get ready to recieve a lot of hate for this.
Don't let it bother you. Keep making takes like this to tell everyone that being a men is not about being violente, rude or cocky for no reason. So many people get that wrong. We don't need to be the loudest guy in the room to be men. A men is agressive when he has to! And sometimes is necessary! Other than that a men treats others with respect and likes to be there for them.
I thank you😃
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There are so many angry people here. You do well in not answering them. I even already got downvoted xD
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Yeah I don't care a bunch
I disagree.
I agree on the parts where a man should respect a woman, but respect is a two way thing, you have to give it to earn it. So both women and men should respect each other.
Guys, confidence is the #1 thing that women look for in a man (often above looks), and nothing else can really replace it or compensate for the lack of it, so it should be one of, if not your primary focus.
As dated a reference it might be, it's still valid: think about James Bond. He takes no shit from anyone - male or female - but he isn't over-sensitive or easily offended. He's focused on his task, but he's otherwise laid back and isn't threatened by much of anything. He's always got a sly little smile on his face. That's confidence, and women find it VERY attractive.
wasn't the original james bond also kind of a sociopath?
It isn't, studies have shown looks trumps confidence and I can vouche for that because of my lack of confidence as a younger man but was still very successful with women because of my looks
Confidence is a good trait that will serve you good in life though, never wrong to have it.
@Malik00 I'm talking about movie James Bond.
@Pulimuli As you point out, the really good-looking don't need a lot of help getting women, so I'm talking to the guys who are less than great-looking (i. e., the majority).
@Pulimuli I can 100% confirm that looks triumph confidence with women. I've seen multiple “confident” guys get rejected.
@Imhot467 Great, but what about the 90% of guys who don't look like Chris Hemsworth? For them, the answer is confidence.
And, no one is saying that confidence will automatically get you any and every girl you want - nothing will do that (but looking like Chris Hemsworth would help!). Confident guys still get shot down plenty - but they don't let that bother them, and they go right back to asking out the next girl, and the next, without being slowed down by those rejections. And before very long, they have a girl. A confident guy may be single a couple of weeks - a "nice guy" who lacks confident may be single for YEARS and miserable the whole time. Which would you rather be?
You dont have to be super good looking, you only have to pass the threshold to where she find you attractive.
The better looking you are the more women will find you attractive and you will have to work less for their attention
Dude what are you talking about? Guys don’t have to look like Chris Hemsworth to be attractive to women. To imply that is stupid. It should be clear that many confident guys getting rejected means that confidence is not most important to women. Not over looks. By the way what you’re describing is desperation, not confidence.
Again, this post isn't about the good-looking guys - they don't need help. It's about everyone else. And if your looks are only average, or are below average (which, together, is the majority of men), then what do you have to offer women to get them interested? The answer is CONFIDENCE. Confidence is the opposite of desperation, and I'm not sure how you could get those confused. Confidence is also not arrogance - arrogance is aggressive, confidence is not.
Well it is necessary that he has something to be confident about. If he's ugly, has a bad personality, poor as dirt, etc then being confident won't get him anywhere
You make no sense. You old men on here never know what you’re talking about. Asking out a whole bunch of women while getting rejected by all of them waiting for a woman to say yes is desperate. Not confident at all. You’ve probably done that. I’m done.
@mistixs Yeah 99% sure if a Rhino looking dude who looks like a homeless man came at different women including you all confident asking you out, you females would reject. Unless he asks out other Rhinos.
@mistixs Maybe so but even if that is the case, look me in the eye and tell me there isn't the faintest ring of truth to this
@mistixs Obviously that's true, but if you're an "average" guy with a decent job, a car, your own place, decent but not spectacular looks, etc., the difference between getting a girl and not getting a girl is largely going to be confidence.
If you dress and smell like a homeless person and you are broke and have nothing going for you, then obviously you are in no position to try to date in the first place. But we all know this is the rare exception - as I mentioned multiple times, I'm talking about the majority of guys, most of whom are "average."
"Macho men" and "Men who aren't afraid to speak their mind" is, in my experience, two diametrically opposed groups.
Most of the macho men I've met have spent their whole life trying to be what other people tell them they should be. They're some of the most weak-willed dudes I have ever met.
You want to test it? Try this: Walk up to any 'macho man' and looking up and down at them judgingly and say, "A real man wouldn't do..[X thing they do.]" The results are generally hilarious as their entire 'confidence' is a ruse built around living up to very narrowly defined expectations.
Fatherhood.
Takes men to make men out of boys and with a lack of fathers comes a lack of men. Strong Male role model substitutes are good like big brothers, friends who do have that fatherhood shaping them into men and helping others become men. But couple the rise of single motherhood, with downplaying the importance of Male role models and you get boys who never really learned how to become men.
It's not popular to say, because it's taken as a sleight against single mothers when it's not in the least. You can have the best mom in the world, but she is still no replacement for a father figure and that hurts both the child and the single mother to hear. Most men who grow up like that, even if they adamantly fight the idea will come to realize it in the future. Usually when they have kids of their own.
sidenote: Macho and laid back usually aren't traits found in the same person lol. Unless you meant "at ease" rather than laid back per se. At ease in the environment means he feels he can handle himself and is safe. Laid back means, chill, calm in his personality. Macho is inherently a display, showing off. Very much not laid back lol.
A confident man treats his woman right because he's gotten rid of the ones who don't act right. He doesn't need to get aggressive or yell. She either does what she's supposed to do or she's gone. If she messes up, they can both discuss it calmly. If she can't discuss it calmly, once again, she's gone. If she tries to manipulate or control him. If she tries to change him. If she's a source of drama instead of peace. If she tries to take advantage of him... all valid reasons to let her go find someone who's willing to put up with her crap.
“Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
“But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.” - Matthew 7:24-27
I think that also applies for a man's masculinity and what he builds it upon.
Well, I fix my own cars, I replaced my own kitchen, sided my own home, build my own deck. I grew up with a carpenter... I also am creative. I treat women respectfully I don't let people walk on me.. But I don't think you can say.. I'm the toughest, most macho guy in the room, but I am not intimidated but such, but I am laid back! .
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I've always considered my dad as an example of a dude thats got confidence. He works hard at his job, he fixes up cars, he's creative with guitar and drums (he used to be in a few bands), loves/protects his family and is a chilled dude that gets along with everybody. Unless somebody pushes his buttons then he will get his point across to them lol
Confidence and Arrogance should not be confused. Many, many people confuse the two, girls and guys alike. People who know next to nothing act like they know everything while people who know much understand the difficulty involved in it and may come off "not confident".
But all the things ya listed in this topic are things women have forced on guys over the years. If "boys will be boys" is toxic masculinity or some BS, then you're gonna get a bunch of boys who won't be boys. Take responsibility, it rests on your shoulders and yours alone.
Its because this generation of millenials are a bunch of pussy twats... all this "everyone is equal"and say no to violence garbage has neutered them... now days you hear them outside a bar yelling " oh yeah well I'll call the cops on you" instead of a good old ass kicking where a couple buddys jump in and someone leaves in an ambulance... It's sad
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I partly agree and partly disagree. I think the confidence and ability to impress themselves is important for anyone. However I'm not muscular and I don't really even want to be. I never want to fight with anyone. I would like to defend someone I care about, but I would do it verbally. I agree that men shouldn't be too feminine (like wear women's clothes or makeup). Also I would always respect my girlfriend, but I would argue with her if it's needed.
I think that boys and girls are a bit different by their thinking, but not as different as in the stereotypical gender roles. In the history they were mostly dragged into those roles. I bet majority of the men didn't want to be violent and do physical work and majority of the women didn't want to spend their day in some room cooking and doing dishes.
Okay
Treat people how you would like to be treated. Give people respect when they earn it and try to do the right thing. Don't think you have to be manly. Be authentic and genuine and that will attract many people in your life.
Nice
Why do I owe you this behavior?
Why does anyone owe you this behavior?
Making you horny by beating the shit out of each other at every opportunity? In what way is that appealing? Where does that actually get us as a species?
Do you actually enjoy sexist behavior? Because this shit is sexist behavior that paints you as a damsel in distress. A sex object for the winner to have his way with, as long as he keeps in line. What a world to live in, where half the population gives up their humanity for base lust.
Scratch that, all of humanity. Because by the same token, men are merely power objects to entertain women with.
It sickens me.
Overcoming adversity builds confidence , I am glad I went through Britsh Army training and shortly after the challenging P Company , paratrooper training. Helps keep me going as a FT working single dad , you mention several skills , but this also takes time and often money to learn , not every man can do this due to his situation, and some may not have the aptitude either. Also have a background in various combat sports / arts , inc boxing , TKD and my faves Muay Thai and Lethwei , I had to learn to fight bullies back when younger and smaller.
I believe in masculine virtues all the underlying principles of it. I appreciate the benevolent strength men bring to the table, although you justification for why guys should act this way isn't well thought out. The issue is that while as a general principle it's good, on an individual level you can't justify why I should meet those criteria -- and it's the demand itself that I feel makes a women less worthy of the considerations masculinity. Being a woman in-and-of-itself, is not a justification. We could apply the same approach you took toward lesser men wherein you call them a bitch: We can just as easily say if you can't justify that treatment then shouldn't you be treated like a lesser man in the same way?
I suppose I agree with part of it. Men are confident at dating and duping their women and own kids and can be skinny, but as for building and fixing cars and houses, we are all to busy to do that from big government that Women vote for also. Blame yourself also honey.
dumping* their women
About automotive maintenance, you know it's funny I once started a lesson in my class regarding basic automotive maintenance. My students are 10 and 11 years old. They were very intrested in learning how to maintain a car. But I found that the administration got pissed that I did such a lesson. Ultimately I had to stop doing it on class time. I wound up doing these lessons during recess. I was surprised at how many students gave up their recess voluntarily to learn about automotive maintenance.
That's awesome
Yet another effect of cultural Marxism. The attempt to redistribute imagined social power from men to women has made cucks. Men are taught to act like women and that masculinity is "toxic". The lack of normal men you're seeing isn't due to men suddenly changing it's coming from outside, young men's heads are being messed with from grade school on.
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Exactly. It’s not like betas spontaneously came into existence. Boys are being brainwashed at a very young age by feminism in the classrooms.
@sonnysunshine True but it's a lot more than feminism. These people are communists it's a web that covers any group they can get their hands on. Anyone with an ax to grind with the society we live in is a potential ally to them and they will go after that group. Women, minorities, Muslims who ever they can get. The thing is it's all lies , they don't actually support any of these people, they're lying to them and using them. If they get into power they'll kill a lot of them. I can just about guarantee you a lot of the antifa types names and addresses are on a computer somewhere to be picked up and shot come the revolution. They already have people picked out for the top positions and they don't want any butt hurt or trouble from those people. It's how they always do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4