5 Things Guys Should Never Do

[ManOnFire]

Just want to share some crucial things in this Take that I think all guys should understand and take heed to. There is so much in life that men are not being taught about people and the world because people are so busy teaching us all to focus on things that don’t matter. Well, I’m here to offer some valuable insight. Here are 5 things guys should never do.

Never tell people you’ve never been in a relationship or that you’re a virgin

This really is a big one. Even if it seems dishonest not to say it, you really shouldn’t, because people can and do betray your trust. Men are both shamed and scrutinized 10x more than women for never having been in a relationship or having sex, and not just by women but also other guys as well.

Guys who have never dated or had sex tend to feel a need to confide in someone, because they’re feeling hopeless and afraid it’ll be this way forever. So they go telling a guy in the gym locker room or on campus, or a girl they’re really interested in and want her to understand, or desperately asking you how to get a girlfriend or how to meet women. I’ve had experience with some of these guys before and I completely understand what they might be going through, but my advice is: do not do this. Unfortunately it does not help your situation.

People can and do betray your trust all the time as I said earlier. Other guys will be the most brutal to you and they will try to make you a laughing stock or go telling that around to others who will also keep spreading it to shame you, and then when females start hearing about it they will either feel sorry for you or they’re going to try to avoid you because they think you’re desperate and might try to talk them up. Trust me, I have seen guys go through this in school and at work.

Do not ever openly tell people that you’ve never had a girlfriend or never had sex. If you want to get advice online anonymously, I fully respect that and you’re safest that way. But even when you do meet a girl and you guys start going out, don’t be so anxious and open to tell her about your inexperience. Just play it cool and don’t bring it up unless she asks you. If she does, tell her the truth, and if she feels weird about it then tell her upfront “If it’s going to be a problem that I’ve never dated/I’m a virgin, then maybe we shouldn’t be seeing each other.” She will respect your bold and mature approach to the situation like that, even if you don’t end up dating..

Never say too much to a woman over text or DM

This is also a major No that guys have to understand. As dudes we already prefer to talk to a woman face to face much more than texting, so keep it exactly like that and only text small. Save your most detailed thoughts for face to face conversation. You want to be careful how much you say to a female in text or DM or what you say - whether she’s a friend, love interest, relative, or even a co-worker - because women like showing people the messages they get especially from guys, and especially if it’s drama or she can create drama from it. And if something you texted her had to do with someone else - someone you both know, she will go running to tell it.

They also like showing their messages if they feel excited that a dude is in love with her, or if they want to tell people that a guy was being “weird” or "creepy." Your female co-workers are also the biggest ones you want to be extremely careful texting, whether you’re both just friends or just keep in contact for work. They are the most dangerous. You don’t want something you said to her to go circulating around your job or getting back to the person you maybe told her something about.

So be careful. Limit what you say electronically, to anybody. But especially chicks. They will take screenshots and save that stuff forever to use it against you, try to humiliate you, or just to be telling people.

Never try to flex to another guy in front of your girl

Guys make this mistake all too often. Dudes want to be possessive of a girl out of their insecurity and they want to try to show their dominance with one in public. So they often pull dick-headed moves like purposely walking in front of her and trying to shove past you on the street or in a shopping center, or purposely not moving out the way to try to make a show of being a big man who’s not afraid of anyone, thinking you'll move out the way in fear. Or they will block a hallway when they’re talking to her cuz they want to be seen or think you’ll be afraid and will just go around him. Or they will try to throw their weight around in any other dick-headed way that they normally wouldn’t do by themselves, but because she’s there they think being a varsity boy will impress her and scare you.

Never be that guy. Not only because it reveals your weakness, but because you never know what the other guy is made of who you’re trying to intimidate. We see it all the time. Dudes trying to make a show of being a man in front of a woman, just for it to blow up in his face when the other guy has more balls than he expected. Dudes get the shit knocked out of them, or the other guy barks at him real bad, and he ends up embarrassing himself not only in front of others but in front of the very girl he’s trying to impress. He showed himself that he’s not that iron gladiator after all. Best way to show yourself as a man in front of a woman is by protecting her, not protecting your ego. Don’t walk towards danger, walk away from it. Showing her brains instead of brawn will be more impressive.

Never be a male gossip

There is nothing more gross than a guy with feminine behavior, and sadly many dudes of today are more effeminate. And that includes gossiping. In fact the guys are worse about it in some ways today than women are. While women tend to try to be more secretive about their gossiping, dudes will openly gossip and you will know who went telling something around. Some dudes even try to use honesty as a BS excuse for this by saying things like, “And you know I’m a big mouth,” or “You know I can’t help but say it.”

Just like with women showing people their text messages, be careful what you say. Gossiping is not only bad, but it can also be dangerous. Just like how you have to learn to be careful with who you trust, people also have to learn not to have such a need to go running around telling everyone what they heard. Even the Bible warns against prattling numerous times, noting that it causes problems and can even harm a person’s name. So don’t be that guy who goes around acting like a girl telling people everything. You will make yourself hated and unattractive.

Never pursue a woman too hard

I think in 2025 this doesn’t need to be said so much anymore since many men are no longer pursuing or approaching women because of their games or bad attitudes, however there are dudes who will still go all in too hard when they do get interested in a woman, and they end up either hurting themselves or pushing her away. Or both.

Once upon a time pursuing a woman with strong intent was seen as a tradition that probably was perfectly fine back then. It was a man’s duty to court her, and it showed he had great confidence, but in 2025 it is no longer that luxury. Pursuing a woman gives her power and makes a man weak, especially in an age where women crave having power over men. The more desire and attention you show her, the more she knows she can control you, use you, or manipulate you emotionally.

Another reason you don’t want to pursue a woman too strongly is because you can lose yourself in that. Many guys get so attracted to a woman that they lose focus on their own selves, progress, and paths. They almost build their whole world around how they feel about her. Never do this. When you give all your heart and soul to how attracted you are to a woman, you set yourself up for a major down spiral if she doesn’t feel the same way, or you guys end up splitting. Always mingle with a woman in moderation, and do not let her see all your cards. Women love trying to figure a guy out so that they can use what makes him tick to either pull him in or use it against him. So never pursue strongly.

These are my tips on some of the most crucial things guys should never do, and if you’ve already learned them, that is great. If you’re still learning in life or at a young age, I really do encourage you to follow my advice. Take care.

[blueonblack22]

Yep I agree. Also if you are guilty of doing any of these past mistakes give yourself some grace (i have guilty of all of them at least once in my life.). However check yourself on why you made these mistakes (and don’t repeat the same mistake twice).

Also you aren’t going to become a Superman overnight but you must never give up on improving yourself. People often overestimate what they can accomplish in a year but underestimate what they can do in 10 years

Also about gossiping. If there is any human personality defect I hate more than anything it’s gossiping. Because when I hear someone gossiping chances are they are talking sh*t about me as as well. It immediately makes me respect the other person less.

However gossiping is not the same thing as ventilating. You can be frustrated with someone else and not sure about what the hell to do about them. Sure you are complaining about them but being resolution-minded guys are using looking for advice when they ventilate. We are looking to solve a problem.

Most guys don’t enjoy bitching for the sake of bitching. Some of us even want “tough love” advice occasionally. But again these are for scenarios where someone is having a direct issue with someone.

But there is nothing I really hate more when I hear gossiping about a someone and the person who they are bitching about never did anything to intentionally harm them.

Also people who gossip regularly usually aren’t really engaged of anything of real value in their careers and lives. So it gives a feeling of relevance to engage in that behavior. A feeling of superiority.

[ManOnFire]

All excellent points. I hate gossiping. I will admit in my earlier years I used to be part of that but then consciously started changing it. I was not a gossip per se, but I would hang with gossips a lot. After awhile I just felt disappointed in myself for that, plus those same people were talking shit about me as well.

[blueonblack22]

The problem is it creates a feeling of “bonding” with people. Women are more social then men so they fall for that more. And they like to talk about their problems to express “their emotions” vs actually finding resolutions.

But men on the other hand look for resolutions. I might occasionally bitch about someone to a trusted friend but I almost always looking for advice on how to handle the problem. And this is almost about someone I have a direct problem with. I’m not going to bitch about someone just because the way they look and/or if they have a weird personality yet never did anything to harm me. Women on the other hand gossip all the time about “creepy looking” guys despair the fact guy never said or did anything wrong while interacting with her.

[ManOnFire]

Correct. Wow it's crazy the way we both notice the same things.

[blueonblack22]

One thing is I have just learned to accept female behaviors but I can make the choice to continue to engage with them or not. Also careful not to do the same thing myself (and on a few isolated occasions I regrettable been guilty of that).

But I won’t waste my time trash talking someone unless they are directly negatively impacting me and I’m trying to figure out how to handle it (I got a few people like that). But there are plenty of weird, eccentric and unattractive people I’ve encountered who never once did anything to harm me personally.

I got absolutely no right to criticize those people just as long as they are law abiding and independent (if they are able bodied).

[beefcakebradybatson]

Boys banter, girls gossip. Different alliteration, same thing.

[blueonblack22]

@beefcakebradybatson no it’s not the same thing. Women generally really do gossip more then men do.

But I’ve seen exceptions on both sides. Not totally letting the guys off the hook on this one either.

[ManOnFire]

Yep, women still gossip more than guys.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Black=guilty !!!

[blueonblack22]

@beefcakebradybatson how does race have anything to do with this? 🤦‍♂️ 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

Seriously man, is this how you are going to view the world in your golden years? Seeing race as in issue in every human behavior topic that’s brought up?

I feel sorry for you. Really I do. What a miserable way to go about your life.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I view the world as a black man who relizes racism and its ilk adversesly affects us POC in EVERY aspect, including the U. S. (and to no little effect, Canadian) IN-justice system. Apparently you believe we should walk around like smiling, grinning, subservient Uncle Toms. Well, you're picked thew rong handsome black cowboy for THAT trope, blueonblack22. And I go about my life like everyone else, boyo !!! (Look at the incarceration rates for us vs. white men who commit the SAME Crimes, bob!!!)

[blueonblack22]

@beefcakebradybatson and you now you are hijacking the entire subject with race which had absolutely NOTHING to with addressing negative human behaviors like gossiping. Which is beyond pathetic.

But I get it. Bringing up issues like race (at completely inappropriate moments) likely gives you an adrenaline rush and you’re addicted to it. But just like some people have personality defects like gossiping (which gives them a “cheap high” of social bonding) you bringing up your victim complex whenever does the same thing.

[ManOnFire]

@beefcakebradybatson Dude, i understand what you're saying, you and I are the same, but it does NOT apply here.

[blueonblack22]

@ManOnFire thanks for addressing that.

[ManOnFire]

Yeah it's just not the right post to put it in.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I know, but men get together and talk about women's body.

[beefcakebradybatson]

NEVER go after your boy's girl !!!

[Axel1969]

Let's also ad that even sexual talk about what the other person likes in the bedroom that woman once they know tell her friends that should stay between you two once comvided because it can be embarrassing for you or him depending what it is.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Why wouldn't I flex, with my 17-inch arms?

[blueonblack22]

@ManOnFire I got some good insight from a close friend about the issue of gossiping a few weeks ago. It’s often a subconscious defense mechanism for people to get the attention off themselves by fixating on other people. Women can be notorious for this but men can be guilty as well. And unfortunately that “shared negativity” can create a bond between people.

[sage2021]

My opinion pertains to the first thing you should never tell a woman.
He wasn't actually a virgin but he didn't have very much experience with women. My neighbor, Linda, was dating a guy for a while and then he told her that he hasn't had very many women in his life.

Well, right after he told her that, she didn't want to see him anymore.

He came over to my apartment wanting to know what happened between the two of them because he said he didn't know what he did wrong why she didn't want to see him again.

This dude was very hurt and upset almost to the point of crying - so I told him the reason she told me.

So yeah, it's just better not to say anything at all about that.

[NoDecision]

Wow, one would think a woman would be happy about that, not having a fuck boy. But, seems like some women want men with a lot of experience. Then they complain that he is cheating on her. Play with a stupid fuck boy - win stupid prizes.

[ManOnFire]

@sage2021 Yep, that is exactly the reason why I advise guys not to go into details unless she asks, and if she does and isn't comfortable he should walk away. A LOT of women will reject a guy because he has never dated or is still a virgin, and that's pretty sad.

[Pohjolan]

@NoDecision
You know fuckboys wouldn't be fuckboys if women didn't want them.

[NoDecision]

@Pohjolan They do? That's news to me. Quick, call Fox News!

[Pohjolan]

@NoDecision
Supply and demand. If women didn't want the noncommittal sex that fuckboys provide then they wouldn't have the success with women that makes them fuckboys.

Of course a lot of women don't like admitting it because they don't want to be seen as slutty so it's a case of stated Vs revealed preference.
A bit like how popular unhealthy fast foods is if you ask people Vs in practice.

[PeachyPie93]

I'd say he dodged a bullet by telling. Who would want a woman so pathetic to leave over something so small and she's so cowardly she couldn't just tell him..

[ManOnFire]

@PeachyPie93 Yeeeeah that is a terrific point.

[sage2021]

Thank you for the MHO 🙂🧁🌷

[NoDecision]

@Pohjolan And then these women complain and moan that they got pregnant or that the guy dumped them and moved on to a new trophy. Like I have heard it said, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

[Anonymous]

if women wanna destigmatize female slut shaming they should also destigmatize male virgin shaming and there's a term that's often used to demonstrate that male virgin shaming isn't destigmatized but heavily stigmatized. it's called "incel"

and it's ironic that a man's value in society is determined by female validation which historically has been devastating e. g. Emmitt Till

to be honest, men can definitely be each other's worst enemies. feminists on their own aren't an issue. it's those conniving simps, white knights and beta orbiters that make everything worse for everyone with their backstabbing and sabotage

[ManOnFire]

Yep, and those simps and white knights all have feminine behaviors of backstabbing and sabotage. That's why it's so important for men of today to learn what it means to be a man and stop seeking female approval. That is shameful.

[Opinion Owner]

seeking female approval got humanity to the mess we have today including all these stupid proxy wars. wouldn't surprise me if feminists were behind politicians who send our men to die to 'liberate' Muslim women, blowing up those countries and allowing pissed off Muslim men to illegally cross borders and enact revenge and we have the audacity to call them terrorists

to me, a true man should be one who can survive and adapt under the laws of nature without the privilege of technology and such, not under the laws of each other that have been used against one another i. e. slavery

take a zombie apocalypse for example. traditional gender roles would come back so quickly it's not even funny. the weak men die off or get turned and the strong men survive and lead entire groups. women would have to get with the program or go extinct. they wanna choose Prince Charming over Shrek in a zombie apocalypse? let them pay for the consequences of such

I know this sounds like a lot but I can't help but notice the softness of a lot of men these days and how quickly many aren't truly ride or die with you. if you got falsely MeToo'd how many men do you know would come to your defense?

[ManOnFire]

I like that observation. Would be interesting to see that in a real apocalypse, and interesting to see what the social reset would be like after it's over.

[Opinion Owner]

feminine men and masculine women wouldn't survive anywhere else in the world when they're only stuck in their own bubble/echo chamber. it's hilarious when a feminist tries to lecture a military combat vet on what the real world really is like

[PeachyPie93]

I actually like virgins as long as he has good social skills and isn't a weirdo. So if someone is running off making fun of a guy just for being a virgin, Its really that person with insecurity problems. Same as people gonna shun a guy for it they are just more people with issues and sexual promiscuity problems. Guys should never care what low hanging people say since the right person won't give a fuck.

[ManOnFire]

That's a good idea, and in many ways guys care about things a lot less than even women do, but at the end of the day people are always going to be harsher on them for innocent things than they are with women.

[DishLady]

@ManOnFire, Depends who you’re talking to and who’s judging.

[ManOnFire]

@DishLady Eh. Maybe.

[wynning]

This seems like a list that comes from bad experiences which got turned into rules in order to avoid having those experiences again. Fair enough. A bit rigid and unwavering though. A few of these are grand but the rest close you off quite a bit. Sure, you'll avoid getting hurt but you might also avoid good, understanding people out there too.
My approach would be less of putting up a front and more building resilience and strength to overcome. I don't know different strokes for different folks!

[ManOnFire]

It is supposed to rigid and unwavering. The world can be very cruel towards guys socially/interactively, and women are far from innocent in that. "Sure, you'll avoid getting hurt but you might also avoid good, understanding people out there too." - You are more likely to get hurt by people than to find the ones who are understanding, so you're safer staying neutral than putting out too much to people in the end.

"My approach would be less of putting up a front and more building resilience and strength to overcome." - there is no putting up a front in any of the advice I noted here. It's telling it as it is and how to avoid those situations.

[wynning]

The world is a cruel place for anyone especially people who wear their hearts on their sleeves. Reckon these are defence mechanisms against that. Maybe these seem more negative than neutral to me because it's not either or for me. You can balance it out -not put too much out but also not so little that you're just standoffish depending on your personality. If that's just who you are that's fine but you shouldn't have to pretend you're someone you're not just to avoid the shit people. You'll come across them regardless.
"Harsh truths of life" with extra harshness for wear I guess.

[ManOnFire]

You are a girl who can go most places and say most things to most people, so you don't understand it because you haven't been in these positions and likely never will. No one is saying a guy has to be 100% tight lipped, but defense is a necessary strength and especially for a man. No guy should be stone hard, but he should never be too open or emotional about anything either.

Harshness is how you see it as a young girl. A grown man sees it as the facts of life that most guys are not being taught, and most of them end up growing up wishing someone had told them.

[wynning]

I am definitely young and inexperienced which is likely why I'm so laissez-faire about it. You're right, I don't know what it's like being a guy but you don't know what it's like being a girl either. If I went to most places and said most things to most people, I'd end up regretting it and worse. It's naive and too idealistic to think otherwise even at my age and understanding. Just to be clear I'm not completely or even seriously disagreeing here, just saying there's another way to see the hard and fastness. Not because I have the privilege of doing that because in many ways I don't but because I have the mind for it. You'd know better though. You know what you've lived through and I can't ever really know that. I'll try to be more understanding so!

[Donalnichualla]

@wynning Not to butt in and I don't discredit what he's saying but I think you're arguing with someone who probably thinks less of younger people because he seems them as naive and is locked in his ways. His take is very pessimistic in my opinion although there is some truth to them. I'd give it up, people like him are not going to see things any other way except their own no matter what perspective you show them. The world is black and white to people who as you said put up a front for one reason or another because it religious to follow dogmas to that extent

[ManOnFire]

@Donalnichualla I take neither of you seriously. You didn't have the courage to speak up until you saw a girl do it, and then she also gave her own opinion a like from a sock puppet account. Both of you invalidate yourselves.

[wynning]

@Donalnichualla I'd say you're being harsher than he was now! I didn't get that impression, cause he has his life to back it up. I don't. Either way you're probably right in that talking about a different perspective when I come from a totally different generation altogether is going to be hard to level with.

[wynning]

@ManOnFire That's not a sock puppet that's my twin lol she stole my username way before

[wynning]

Guys this is getting stupid let's give it a rest. As I said in my original comment, different strokes.

[Donalnichualla]

@ManOnFire I wasn't bothered writing my own version of this one because I understand this view enough to agree. I was simply interested in what you thought of it because it's a different viewpoint. Then I saw how defensive you were getting and had to put out a word of warning cause there's a lot of people like this on GAG. Much love and peace man, nobody's attacking you here just sharing their opinions. You don't have to agree with them hell I can understand where you're coming from and so can others even if they don't agree with you either.

[Donalnichualla]

@wynning The delay in seeing new replies is worse now than before which is odd. You're right, much love and peace to you too.

[ManOnFire]

@Donalnichualla If you go back and read what you originally wrote - that supposedly is not an attack, then you might understand why I responded the way I did. The saying is old as time but still applies: think before you speak.

[Donalnichualla]

@ManOnFire Alright that makes sense. Your way or the highway evidently. They were opinions based on what you said already and not ad hominems. So you taking them as attacks is on you because they weren't meant to be they're rebuttals. I give in if it came across the wrong way which it seems to have sure

[ManOnFire]

@Donalnichualla Well, just walk away and agree to disagree 🤝🏼

[DishLady]

Good points made and very concise.

The male gossip and "flex" thing are particularly annoying.

I don't know about the DM one because personally I see that some guys THINK they've answered a question but they don't -- also not every gal generates drama... enter the male gossip...

As for pursuing a woman "too hard", while I agree with you, some guys think that ANY effort is too much. It's important to flesh that one out a bit more. (Don't jump through too many hoops for anyone, but also don't presume that you don't have to jump through ANY hoops.)

[ManOnFire]

So basically I'm saying that anything serious or detailed a man wants to say to a woman should be done face to face or on phone call. I've known so many situations where a girl and guy were texting and it seemed to be that the more he talked, especially if he gave a long reply back, and if it was a text exchange full of friction between them, then the girl just uses it as a reason to go showing people. That's a betrayal of not only his trust but his privacy too.

Many guys do think any effort is too much because they're scarred by their buddies or brothers etc. who tried with a woman just a little bit, and that was still not good enough for her.

[DishLady]

Yes absolutely. I know a guy who is AMAZING in face-to-face exchanges but truly dreadful with any sort of texting. (You would never believe it if you've ever seen or spoken with him.)

Oh... I've never thought to show someone's text to someone else (unless the sender specifically asked me to... like for an ETA or meetup detail) because that's rude. YES, a betrayal of trust and privacy. Agreed. (I've had the reverse, where a guy has shown off my text to him or something I said in a way that killed my cred with a long-time colleague.)

Hmm. Effort, when applied in the right way, doesn't even have to be that much. (Women who are TOO demanding also don't need to be with a nice balanced guy.)

[Anonymous]

2-5 easy, even TOO easy.

• 2. Never say too much to a ANYONE over text or DM. Save it for face to face.
• 3. Never try to flex AT ALL. It's unnecessary and unhelpful 99% of the time.
• 4. Don't be ANY TYPE of gossip, not like women are stereotyped to be and neither like men are stereotyped to be.
• 5. Never pursue a woman AT ALL. If she refuses the first approach, stop. Move on to someone who wants you. Do not chase.

1 is dumb. If you hide something you are making it more shameful, not less. Nobody worth your time will seriously shame you for that sort of thing.

Overall good list but seems too focused on masculine appearance rather than the character that should be underneath it.

[exitseven]

All good things for sure @ManOnFire I am glad those days are in the rear view. they were fun but there was sadness as well/

[ManOnFire]

Very good point, there was fun and sadness in those days, yeah.

[virtualwasp]

I don't like it when they fiddle with themselves in public, I saw a guy do it then sniff his hand. Im talking over clothes!! Wtf is he sniffing

[ManOnFire]

I've seen that too and I think it's gross lol.

[godfatherfan]

God you are a sad human being. You gotta be young, as the things you said are just ridiculous and stupid. I don't buy you can be 38 and believe half the shit you wrote.

People, if you meet a woman you want, go hard after her. And write as much as you want in texts. Only closed off people that have many issues with self worth would follow anything you said.

[ManOnFire]

Lmfao. Yet you are 56 and single.

[godfatherfan]

I was married 25 years. You are a sad human being. I did my time.

[ManOnFire]

Yet you failed at your marriage lol.

[NoDecision]

Never ask her if she wants to see your dick pics. Does that even happen anymore? Seems pretty presumptuous to me.

[ManOnFire]

Lol. I forgot to mention to that.

[ABC1x1x]

I had a friend ask why I never sent her dick picks. I told her "I didn't think you wanted to see it, plus you're the type that would make me pull it out and take the picture yourself" I didn't hear anything for maybe another hour or two and then my doorbell rang she was dressed like to go out on a date and she had her professional camera. We went on a date and she took professional "Head"shots. She was my best friend. I miss her.

[DishLady]

@ManOnFire It's so sad to think that anyone would HAVE to state that... It's ridiculously obvious.

[HungTexan]

Great advice. At my age, I learned some of these the hard way.

[ManOnFire]

Pursuing a woman too hard was my biggest learning lesson.

[IWILLPLEASEYOU]

I don't intend to be butting in this situation required for 1of 5 I have been taught to me and my first fact I have taught to my 2 adult sons they told me that they are valuable advice on this one so I can repeat it NEVER EVER WANT TO SEE IF YOU CAN GET A LADY OR A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A WOMAN THAT YOU WANT TO CONVINCE THEM TO DO SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO!!!

[heruncommonsense]

The fact that males lie for sex is just another reason for women to opt out.

And they call us the dishonest ones. They say I'm dishonest for saying that I don't want to be injured... it's an excuse, they're violent, sadistic pieces of shit.

[AviatorTom]

I'm not sure use of the word NEVER is legitimate, since there is almost always an exception to the rule. These topics are good advice though.

[zagor]

Good points. I made the mistake of #5 once and it was a mess.

[ManOnFire]

I think most men will.

[Crazzyyworld]

be a considerate man and make her a lead once in a while. give her small gift to show you care like a rose. listen to her story don't be self centred. don't be a dickhead. go around the opponents. use your brain to win the game over time. waiting a moment is a virtue.

[Crazzyyworld]

now you tell me how to get a man as a transwoman.

[Crazzyyworld]

all women are lesbians. you have to act like lesbian in order to win their heart.

[ManOnFire]

Not sure why I'm just now seeing this. Had no idea you're trans.

[Caroline91]

I think there is a lot of good advice there. I think the last point is a bit off. I would modify it to never pursue a woman too hard unless you have determined she is really worth it and only if she reciprocates your interest.

[ManOnFire]

The point was made clearly and does not need modifying🙂

[Caroline91]

Alrighty then. I just thought some clarification would be conducive to a good discussion. But if you’re not open to it, that certainly is your prerogative. 🙃

[ManOnFire]

@Caroline91 A man should never pursue a woman too hard, even if she does like him back. By pursuing so strongly, you can appear weak especially as a man, and women like duping or taking advantage of men they can see are crazy about them. And of course, women are desperate for attention, and when a guy gives it he feeds her ego. The more pursuit and attention he gives, the more she knows she's got him.

A man should not give so much of his energy to chasing a woman.

[Caroline91]

@ManOnFire I can see your point. But, if a woman is really interested in a man and he chases her hard, it can really make her respond in ways he just might find very... gratifying... shall I say? lol

[ManOnFire]

@Caroline91 Well that's a plus too lol.

[Caroline91]

@ManOnFire Yes... why yes it is...

[Caroline91]

@ManOnFire Sometimes, ya just gotta take one for the team! lol

[Anonymous]

i love everything you wrote but unfortuneately, men doing the pursuing is something men will more than likely always be stuck with whether they hate it or not

[ManOnFire]

I think that’s true.

[Opinion Owner]

yeah, for men, there is no escaping that role unfortuneately, no escaping it in the sense if he doesn't want to be chronically single

[DishLady]

Ok, but while that’s true, Anon, there IS such a thing as chasing too hard… running too far… jumping through too many hoops. If a girl is just giving you random hoops to jump though she’s just a controlling B and not with the time. It does take a guy at least one such experience to learn not to fall for it again. (Though having said this I see one guy I know trapped with the wrong woman now… very controlling and he is wary of leaving her bc he’s “too old to start over” (m75).) 🤷🏻‍♀️

Just do what is reasonably within your limits and if that’s not enough for her she’s welcome to find someone else.

(And *most* of the list applies to women as well, by the way.)

[Opinion Owner]

@DishLady yeah but men will more than likely always be stuck with the role or burden of always having to be the one to ask the woman out and court women, do the pursuing, i never understood why it has to be that way

[Opinion Owner]

@DishLady its something i will always hate

[DishLady]

If you feel it’s a burden then that’s just not your person. Period.

If you feel “I HAVE TO” then that’s not your person.

You should feel a sense of elevation and “I WANT TO” when you spot the right person. And she should feel the same for you as well.

[Opinion Owner]

@DishLady well majority of women are stubborn and adamant in which they have the mindset that a woman should never pursue a man they like, no matter how much they like him or want him

[Anonymous]

Not going to lie, but the not sharing too much over text is usually what causes the drama for women. Since many of us do like texting, and we want someone to reciprocate that.

[IWILLPLEASEYOU]

I love to text
(Respectfully)

[Opinion Owner]

Me too!

[ManOnFire]

That makes no sense. Because the drama gets started when there IS too much being shared. That's what women want, juicy details to go running to somebody and telling them that "he said this! he said this!"

[Opinion Owner]

That might be the case to some, but I would personally only share anything where his words and actions stop adding up and he refuses to talk about it.

That's when the drama starts, in my experience. As soon as that happens, I'm ready to leave.

However, I rarely share my conversations with anyone as it's no one's business to begin with. I guess it differs per person.

[ManOnFire]

"where his words and actions stop adding up and he refuses to talk about it."
- What do you mean by this?

[Opinion Owner]

The most recent I can think of is when I went on a date with a guy and he wanted to continue seeing me. A little later he tells me he is dating someone else, but still wanted to stay friends. The week after, he asks if I would come and visit him. When I asked about his new date, he told me they were getting serious, so I asked why he wanted to see me if that was the case. Because he was going on a trip for his job and "it would've been fun for us to hang out as friends" and when I asked if he thought that was appropriate, he told me she wouldn't mind because they weren't official yet. That, to me, didn't make sense. So I asked some of my friends about their thoughts.

[ManOnFire]

I see... Well, if I were you I would not continue any kind of contact or dating with him at all. He wants to swing back and forth with you how he wants, when he wants, and that's not really fair.

[Opinion Owner]

We don't talk any longer, no. Precisely because of that. So, yeah, that's my take on your message, but I know it's different for anyone. Thanks for your perspective!

[kaucky1]

1. Not come home with cockmouth on breath
2. Don't pretend to be someone else and act like a fool
3. Don't even use lies talking crap about others because of you'll just tell on yourself anyways
4. Ignoring them they'll just ignore you back
5. If you not morph into a girl yourself satisfy self then she'd never be satisfied neither

[Twalli]

I told my girlfriend that she was my first girlfriend and that I was a virgin after we started dating. She was also a virgin, but I wasn't her first boyfriend.