Have you seen how women respond when they get rejected for sex? These include women who have had sex plenty of times and get lots of interest from men. Now imagine how these women would respond if they never got approached, and they approached a lot and always got rejected and never managed to persuade a man to have sex. That's the position that many men are in.And how about 'Female Relationship Entitlement Psychosis'. At least most men know that they have to earn what they want. Many women never bother to ask themselves, "What have I done to earn a relationship?" They simply label men who don't want that with them as 'assholes', 'jerks', 'users', 'womanizers' and even 'misogynists'.
Lol don't mind her she's a pornstar.
@XxbitemeXx This is clearly a "Catfish" account.
@OrdinaryGentleman you're goddamn right@CincinnatiRedsfan I already verified myself in ths past, multiple times. Im the realest rawest bitch on this site. @ihav2fart vouch for me my rep is being impugned lmao
Lol such a load of crap.
@OrdinaryGentleman lmfao okay you're actually just complimenting me in the end
The part where I was saying you hold no weight in this or calling you out on your BS?
@OrdinaryGentleman oh yeah because what I do renders me incapable of having a valid opinion on any subject. Actually it makes me somewhat of an expert. I've interacted with a lot of men of all types and gotten a lot of perspective most women will never have on the male mind, especially when it comes to sexuality. You can be dismissive all you want, but it just makes you look small minded and tells me you're prolly one of those virgins yourself.
@CincinnatiRedsfan she's not a catfish, she sent had a selfies with her old username
@CincinnatiRedsfan she also may or may not have sent me nude! ;)
@ihav2fart did i for real? Lol i don't remember
We'll never know!
And I have dated girls like you, all you are is on your own high horse. I suppose depending upon who you ask you could hold your own against an argument but an expert on sex and relationships? Please just stop trying to think and go back to what you do best. Being fake.
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Omfg the kissing lmfao
Its like 2 fishies kissing each other..
That was the most cringe inducing kiss EVER LOL@XxbitemeXx
Whoa that was bad kissing technique!
"Also girls have no idea what it's like to be an ugly guy who's not rich yet many of them find us pathetic and lame"Most guys and girls don't have any clue what it's like to be an ugly GIRL either... but you don't see ugly or fat women getting violent and aggressive left and right.
"but you don't see ugly or fat women getting violent and aggressive left and right."Are you for real? @Sara413 Like what the hell? Can you provide with a source that proves that there's a bunch of ugly and fat men going around being violent and aggressive left and right? You sound like a typical feminazi who doesn't want any guys to have their voices heard. Because violent and aggressive men are aggressive because they either grew up in a rough neighborhood or they are just mentally disturbed. Looks doesn't determine that. Men will always be the much more violent gender because they are almost always much more physically stronger than women and we don't have as much people looking out for us than women do. That's why they say "every man for himself" rather than every woman for herself or everyone for themselves. And ugly girls still have guys every now and then showing interest and can get sex easily. For ugly guys, it's almost impossible for them to receive attention from girls.
I don't have a "source that proves there's a bunch of ugly and fat men going around being violent and aggressive left and right"... what I DO have is my own personal experiences and those of other female friends and acquaintances who have been met with physical and verbal aggression and intimidation on more than one occasion after rejecting a man's advances. It's amusing that you say that and then go on to fully admit that men DO react more aggressively than women: "Men will always be the much more violent gender because they are almost always much more physically stronger than women and we don't have as much people looking out for us than women do."Making excuses for male aggression is not the same as proving it's not an issue... not sure what point you were trying to make with your response...
That's just a lot of men who do that and looks have nothing to do with it. Because you make it seem like the uglier and the fatter the guy is, the more likely he will be violent and aggressive. Put the same unattractive and overweight in men's shoes and many who are messed up in the head would react the same if they were rejected. But unattractive women just like any women don't have the physical strength to be aggressive like men and also they don't have the disadvantage of being completely ignored by the opposite sex. There are many cases abusive relationships where the guys weren't ugly but in fact good looking. There are equal number of messed up men and women in the world but the reason why you'll always see men being more aggressive is because they can afford to due to their physical strength. And of course their well being is usually more neglected in the society so at times that messes up their head.
It's not "making excuses" for male aggression. It's giving you logical reasoning behind why there's more male aggression in the society than female. And if you still don't get my point then reread what I said. It's not rocket science here. All I'm saying is if those same "ugly or fat women" who you say don't get violent and aggressive like the unattractive and overweight men, it's because the messed up ones don't have the physical strength to do it plus haven't endured as much struggle as men in their lives to go batshit. It's not making excuses. You have to look at it in perspective. If you fail to comprehend then you're just sexist. Just like how there's more crime in poverty areas and less in wealthy areas. People in poverty are more likely to commit crime due to their circumstances but if the people of these 2 areas swapped places, they wouldn't because they are in different shoes. So that's why "ugly or fat women" can't be violent because they lack the physical strength @Sara413
I literally never said that attractive men don't do the same thing. They do. But your comment was about unattractive guys, on a post about why "virgin males are so angry". So that's what I'm responding to.
Saying it and implying it are 2 different things and it very much sounded like you implied it. Virgin males are pretty much all unattractive to girls, unless guys are virgins by choice. My post was about why they are usually angry and frustrated. Why they are so bitter but for some reason you brought up the whole violence and aggression topic. Which is absurd because no matter what, men will always be the more violent and aggressive gender since they have the physical strength to do it if they are messed up in the head unlike women who are messed up in the head. Like if a skinny guy who is messed up in the head and wants to be violent and aggressive with bigger guys but can't because he knows he doesn't have the physical strength to overpower the bigger guys. @Sara413
Why necessarily are they not failures for not getting laid?Why necessarily isn't it women's fault?
@evenliftNot getting laid does not make a man a failure because losing their virginity may not have been their goals.When it comes to the angry ones I'd say that everyone gets rejected. Supermodels occasionally give out about not being able to find a good enough guy, not finding a good enough girl is hardly a failure.And to the ones who would sleep with anything female and human, I'd say not losing your virginity yet is no big deal. It is no total failure.in my opinion, fault implies responsibility. They are not responsible for having sex with guys.
But, these men we're talking about want to get laid.No, it's not true that everyone gets rejected. Almost all men get rejected. Some women get rejected. But, even almost all of the women who have experienced rejection (and rejection doesn't mean not having people come to you, but rather going to people and being rejected by them) don't know what it's like not ever to have been wanted sexually by anyone. Based on women's responses to being rejected for sex or for a relationship, I would imagine that they would respond much worse as chronic female virgins than chronic male virgins do.They have the right to refuse sex, certainly. But, that's not the same as saying that every refusal to have sex is morally correct. Everyone should rationally follow his or her self-interest. Everyone is responsible to himself or herself to live the best life possible. So, indeed, it can be rational to criticize a woman for picking one man for sex over another.
Agreed but it is not and should not be the thing that defines them. I wanted to get up at half 7 this morning but I stayed in bed until 7:45. That is a failure but it doesn't make me a failure. I see being a virgin as the same. It doesn't define a man.Possibly. From what women have told me, they could have sex easily but they want something else, a relationship and many struggle to find it. Many women get used for sex and it hurts them like rejection does. Also, not being approached is a form of rejection, at least in how it affects someone.Being happy is in your self interest so they have the right to choose the man they want, thus making them happy. Also, I don't think I am in a place to decide what sex partner is and is not in a woman's best interest unless she wants to bang a goat. Morally, she has no responsibility to choose any guy for sex in my opinion.
So, you mean failures in the context of life in general? OK, then.I'm sure being rejected for a relationship does hurt. But, I think it would pale in comparison to not being wanted sexually to any extent by anyone ever. As for not being approached being a rejection, that's like saying "Walmart rejected me because they didn't headhunt me. I never applied. But, it's still a rejection". Anyone who says that would rightly be accused of arrogant folly.I've said that they have the right to choose. But, that doesn't make every choice they make necessarily morally correct. Self-interest is objective. It's not whatever you feel is good for you. It is what is in reality good for you. You are in a place to judge which of two men is better, for the same reason that you (as you rightly say) are in a position to judge that a man is a better choice than a goat.
@evenliftThe end result is still the same: isolation while others fare better. Many girls would feel like they should have guys approaching them and many don't. I wonder how often the 'average' girl gets approached in a bar.Well it depends on what you mean by self interest. Does she want money? Then sleep with a rich person. Does she want a marriage? Then go for a more stable and responsible guy. The 'right' answer is up to her.
Well, that's just arrogance on their part.As I say, self-interest is objective, though of course it can be difficult to know what is in your self-interest. Sometimes, though, it is easy, as in the example you gave of a choice between a man and a goat. And sometimes the choice between two men is obvious, too. And, while recognizing a woman's right to make a morally wrong choice in the matter, one wouldn't be morally wrong in criticizing the moral wrongness of her choice.