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No. I do not like feminists. You will hear many, many times that feminism is about nothing more than equality between men and women. I think this is an absolute lie. It doesn't matter to me if they're first, second or third wave feminists, I do not see feminism as being about equality. I see it as only being about special privileges for women at the expense of men and about women seeking to dominate and subigate men via influencing law makers, laws, and the courts. I will not date nor have friendships or even associate with anyone identifying themselves as a feminist. Prior to feminisms advent men and women were already equal. I believe everyone of both sexes were created in God's image and that neither sex is better than the other. I believe both sexes have a different role to play. In a marriage I believe the husbands role as established in the Bible, is to provide for his family, protect his family from anything ranging from physical harm to any form of harm one can imagine. According to the Bible, the husband is to be the head of the household and the spiritual leader of the house as well. The husband is to love and cherish his wife without exception. In a sense, although he is the leader he is also ther servent of the entire family. He is charged with the overall care of the entire family. I believe the role of the wife is to be the help mate and the bearer of children as established in Genesis 2:18. The role of the wife cannot be underestimated in its importance aside from the role of being child bearers. I do believe she is to submit to her husband. The term help mate or in the KJV version of the Bible help meet is a term that implies in the original Hebrew a power unto her husband. In short she enables her husband to do his duties to the family well and without her sticking to her role the husband will have great difficulty in preformining his duties well. God clearly created Eve because Adam needed help, not because he had it all figured out and under control. Now we jump to feminism and it's claims about being pro equality and we find women in mass not willing to submit to their husbands. They precieve them not being the head of the family and having equal authority makes them not equal. Not so. Although I submit to my boss at work, he is no better or worth more than I. Genesis 3:16 stated women would desire the man's role in marriage. So I will not date feminists as the purpose of dating is to see if 2 people are compatible for marriage. TBC.
I can't date someone who will get in my way of providing for me the very best I can give to my family, which is what I desire above all things for my family. Every structure needs a leader and when there are too many chiefs and not enough Indians things do not work well. Ask yourself this: What husband who truly loves his wife and family would be a tyrant who wants to control all of them and order them around as if they're a bunch of privets in the military? What husband who gets the support of his wife as she sticks to her role in a marriage wouldn't be astonndiny greatful for her, and love her beyond what words can describe?
I believe marriage is a Christian institution and rite of passage in a sense. I believe it was created by God and God gave us directives for how it is to opperate. If one or both parties are unwilling to perform their roles as God perscribed, how will it not fall apart?
So I can't date someone who will seek to usurp me at every turn. For me to perform my duties, which I would do with gladness, not to make them sound like a chore, I require my wife's submission. I also require her input as only a fool dosen't listen to his wife's advice and take it into heavy consideration. Certainly ones wife is a woman of great talents and resources. Doesn't mean I will always agree, but I'm all ears to her input as I'm not God and don't know everything, and don't have all the answers.
I also won't date feminists for a bevy of other reasons, even if I did not hold my current views on marriage. Those reasons would range from the variety of ways and influences they've had on political systems in an attempt to control and subjugate men to the man hating they engage in at great length and are far to numerous to list here.
Long answer short. No I do not like feminist girls.
Wow thanks for this answer, very well written and on point in my opinion. 👍
Thank you, and you're welcome.
Feminists are not attractive to real men. Period. The guys are all about equal say, and the original intent of feminism - voting rights, equal pay, all the things that put them on par in society. But men and women are simply not the same, they are not equal in all things, and in a relationship more tradictional roles are much more satisfying.
Let men be men and women be women and everybody is a LOT happier. The last thing a guy wants is for his women to compete with him on everything. Not only no, but hell no.
We want women to be successful in their own right, but not at the expense of her man. If everything else is more important than her man then he is not going to be satisfying to her.
So no, women have been sold a bill of goods on this third wave feminism and it ain't working out so well for them.
look, if a woman wants basic rights, she's a feminist immediately. HOWEVER a crazy bitch who wears a vagina costume and complains about Trump saying pussy, then holding a walk while screaming the word pussy, are just idiots claiming to be feminists. there's a difference and I'm sure no man wants to date a woman in a vagina costume
I'm pretty sure u already got the same rights as men if you live in first world country 😊
"look, if a woman wants basic rights, she's a feminist immediately."
First of all, no he isn't. You don't get decide the definition and you especially don't get to decide what other people are for them. That's like if I said "If a white person likes being white, S/he's automatically a nazi."
And second of all you already have every right men have so what exactly do you want?
You do know women have the same rights already don't you?
well aware what I'm saying is that if you're a woman want basic rights and wish to keep them, meaning anyone from any nation, not just including first world countries, you're automatically a feminist. what I'm saying is that the people who were in the "women's March" and shit like that were not feminists, they already have rights, they're just idiots in vagina suits
I'm not playing victim. I'm saying if you want to keep your rights, even though they're not threatened, you're a feminist. even if you're a man and you want to keep your rights, you're a Chauvinist. if anything I'm more of an equalitarian. what those "feminists" are doing isn't feminism, if anything it's insulting to it. that's what I'm saying.
Autocorrect. why the fuck did it fucking do that?
I think my boyfriend enjoys having a feminist girlfriend, or so he says. I pay for myself, i dont expect him to act traditionally, I dont expect him to do all the driving. Instead of asking him to do things for me (like l when i need help with my car) i ask him to show me how so that I'm not relying on him all the time.
Many guys are afraid of the word "feminism" because of what some extremists have done. Don't worry, the smart men are not.
You're young; be smart and strong and learn everything you can about the world as you get older. And don't change (or hide) your beliefs just to get a boyfriend.
we aren't afraid of feminism 😂
Not afraid, just disgusted.
feminists used to be about equality but know they want superiority, which in fact, they already have, feminists already practically control media and ask for the rights they already have
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God no. Why would I preffer a woman who hates women and despises men? That doesn't make any sense. Feminist have not only blamed men for everything (while conviently ignoring all the benefits women have in society that men do not (like empathy for there issues)) while claiming all women are so weak and worthless that they are prepetual victims incappable of being held accountable for their own actions. They have literally stated that sex is ALWAYS rape because women do not have the mental capacity to consent, that is an actual feminist quote (andrea dworkin if memory serves). They hate women and hate men even more. The national organization for women (NOW) actively advocated for women to get full custody, they actually pushed for laws to be bias in favor of women to take away custody of children from fathers to give to women, not even equal custody but primary (or better) custody to women always, that is what they have advocated (completley ignoring there claims of fighting for equality (can't be fighting for equality if your actively creating inequality)) and doing so at the expense of the children (who fair far better with a mother and father then they do with just a mother). Its feminist who have created this idea that women are always victims so much so in fact that a court ruling (hermsmann vs seyer) states that irregardless of how a woman gets pregnant she is entitled to child support (in this case it was a 12 year old boy raped by his babysitter) it has been up held in every state. Feminist have claimed men oppressed women ignoring that again, women had more rights then men did and never went through any of the thigns feminist claim they did or if they did completely ignored the context (for instance women could always work it was only married women who couldn't and that was because of coveture which meant the man was legally responsible for her well being so he had to take care of her, not because it was some kind of prison for her as she was fully able to decide whether or not she would marry (and many women did decide not to)). So no, I despise feminism, anything that is founded upon hate, selfishness, and bigotry/sexism is not something I would want in a partner. Then add in the fact that feminist expect men to do everything while contributing nothing to the relationship (he should pay for the dates, he should act chivalrous but she "doesn't exist just to make a man happy") I would rather be single then date some one that repulsive.
I have met some nice sensitive ones, i'm a sucker for tattoos, dreadlocks and strange colored hair lol. But the only thing that bothers me about feminism. Side track here, I learned in my terrorism and counter terrorism class that all organizations are made up of the elite pulling the strings, the vocal minority on the ground doing all the work they you have silent majority who passively support it. Like in most companies you probably have more man power and resources going to people you never see vs the cashiers who pull in all the money.
Well with extreme feminism (the vocal minority) and their campaign for equal rights they are destroying the fabric of masculinity. Then most girls (the silent majority) complain that they can't find anyone worthy of dating and the guys they can or should date they treat them like their grandpa. I'd say for a good solid year after I got out the military I was a good person and a few times a week I was nice enough to aid some girls and guys in my life.
And I wasn't doing it for ulterior motives but i'd hear the girls complain that men today suck and finding a decent man is like searching for a unicorn. Who am I mowing your lawn for 20 bucks? Your grandpa? Your brother? The straw that finally broke the camels back and made me into a shut-in was when a girlfriend of 6 months dumped me, then complained to me she couldn't find anyone nice after she dated a deadbeat mooch, a burnt out former addict and an 18 year old...
And sadly, even the girls who are not burning their bras and marching topless down the street. I think it is happening now, you girls are seeing the fruits of your napalm infused campaign and you are seeing the beginning of a generation of men who don't wanna be men because you went ghengis khan on masculinity and see thing like manual labor, sports, serving in uniform and trade jobs as terrible. Then you will want the things you despised about men, and I won't say every guy you're friends with is boyfriend material but I bet at least one or two are. You girls will cling to that 5% of decent men left like you are the red cross waiting for disaster relief.
This is all coming from a guy that is pretty liberal, pro choice, in favor of equal pay and taking rape allegations seriously, as RDJ's character in tropic thunder said "never go full retard"
Current version of feminism is find equality between the genders. By fighting against manspreading, manplaining, violence against women caused by men, cases in which men rape women, having women feel safe at night without the dangers of being attacked by men. Uplifting single mothers and children in fatherless homes. Changing laws that benefit men. Changing standard physical tests in military that come easy to men due to natural physical capabilities and making them more simple and thus more accessable to women. Changing roles of the boys scouts, boys club etc. Because its sexist not to include women. Creating clubs and organizations just for women so that they can have a safe space without worrying about societal pressure placed on them by men. etc. But i must remind you in no way is modern feminism against men when fight for equality between men and women. Men are privileged while woman are opressed here in western society. Only way to make things equal is to give women the rights they deserve in order to balance out this patriarchal, misogynistic society that men have created.
I hope this is a joke
So OP, this was never an unbiased question?
Omg face palm. It was sarcasm. I was basically point out that feminism is basically fight men in general notice how all the negative things that feminism want to fix has the word man in it. MANplaining, MANspreading, MEN who cause violence, MEN who rape. Basically feminism is saying the problem is MEN. That was the point of the comment.
If by feminist you simply mean that you want equality between the sexes (even though it's mostly achieved already in the West) then no problem there. But if you're the type of feminist who takes issue with trivial things like manspreading, the wage gap myth and etc then yeah there may be problems.
I prefer non-feminists. Feminists are obnoxiously condescending and seem to purposely look for things to be offended by.
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When i saw that picture i was thinking about Buzzfeed immediately.. lol..
I wouldn't date a feminist. Why, because of the underlying culture in the feminist world. A constant narrative of victimhood and an unbeatable boogeyman in the form of the patriarchy. Meanwhile everything evil in the world is male "MANspreading", "MANturupting", "toxic MASCULINITY" etc etc yet they're not sexist or anything.
Further the idea of male only space is abhorrent, and sexist, yet women need safe spaces. I could go on, but it's not a life I would like to live. Being raised by a feminist was bad enough, I can't imagine dating one.
Personally non feminist as I'm the type of guys who is too keen on feminists as too many use the title for their perverted ways. Its really unfortunate that the term "feminism" has become so diluted. To the point guys question the movement itself.
Thus I'd rather stick to independent women who do not feel the need to flaunt that they are female. And that there is an issue, rather they actually do something rather than come on social media and rant. Such as Anita the gamer gate woman.
The world and especially the internet is a pretty dark place and if you come looking for blood. Expect to have people retaliate just as terribly.
I'd prefer a woman that, at least here in the US, realizes that life is what you make of it. One that doesn't perpetually act like a victim of oppression.
One that doesn't constantly create a false dichotomy. That either someone is a feminist or someone is a misogynist.
One that doesn't seem like she was shat out of a tumblr blog with a gender studies degree in her hand, ready to buzzkill every social interaction she can weasel her way into.
One that understands that equality is equality. Not a flawed sense of justice with the continued expectancy of any and all perks that women are used to receiving.
If she's a feminist, then she's probably a raging cunt who will believe anything because it sounds good. She probably also doesn't know how to research otherwise she would see how damaging feminism has become and how her other feminist have ALWAYS belittled men to advance their socioeconomic cause. Men are told they are rapists, pigs, dogs, worthless, should all be killed, male concentrations camps, and even have their dicks cut off by feminists but men should be totally accepting of feminism because its all inclusive. Feminism isn't inclusive, its EXCLUSIVE. TO MEN. Women are being hypocritical because the same exclusive behaviors they say men are employing have been employed by feminism yet its worse since they are actually preaching hatred against men.
I will absolutely never be with a feminist.
The only guys who prefer feminist girls, are guys who are incapable of getting anything else, because all you have to do to please (some) feminists, is to be subordinate and self-flaggelating.
You just apologize for existing and then they'll see you as a noteworthy human being.
But any reasonable person would stay at least 9 miles away from any person who says "hi, I believe that the male gender and you as an extension of that is responsible for what I view as total societal corruption and moralistic evil, wanna date?"
It greatly depends upon what you mean by 'feminist.' If you mean a woman from the Middle East who opposes having acid thrown in her face for showing a strand of hair, then yes, I'd date her. If you mean a woman who gets her panties in a wad when she walks down the street topless and a guy looks at her tits, then no, I wouldn't have anything to do with her.
Anybody who believes in equality need not adopt a gendered prefix for their "ism."
To me, a girl identifying as a "feminist" is perhaps the biggest turnoff. However, a girl identifying as an "egalitarian" is very attractive. No, they are not one and the same.
A feminist who is for equality but cannot even list just one male related issue while she has everything she is apparently subjected to by society memorized? I wouldn't date that type of feminist. I also wouldn't date a feminist who has to point out that she is a feminist and tries to make her feminism relevant to everything. I cannot think of a single scenario where even mentioning that you're a feminist to me would be necessary, so right there I'd know to just walk away. I also wouldn't date a feminist who believes there is a wage gap and a rape culture in the west. I can't tolerate that much ignorance.
Just don't admit to being a feminist if you want a boyfriend.
I actually don't care so much. On the one hand, I do like to lead a bit in a relationship. On the other hand, I am definitely more attracted towards women who are confident, outspoken, ambitious and know what they want in life. For example I want my girlfriend to have a good education, get a good job and keep working part-time once we have children. I wouldn't like a girl who just wants to stay home playing 1950s housewife for the rest of her life. I love strong women because I love challenges in life.
So, while I don't care what her particular views are, I do believe that a feminist girl fits better to me. Not just in regards to relationship-related values but also world view in general. For example a feminist girl is more likely to be non-religious, politically left, adventurous about sex, open-minded, tolerant etc..
Yeah, the feminism what is going on in third world countries is indeed needed and good to exist. I do appreciate what the feminists in the third world countries are doing but I am not a feminist by myself because i don't find it useful in the West. So i wouldn't connect feminism straight to non religious, adventurous / keen on trying new things in bed or open minded. I know a lot girls like me in "West".
I disagree. America is the only country of "the west" where feminism is so incredibly controversial and everyone is screaming about it. Here in western Europe, most people (even conservatives) agree that feminism is important and needed. There are a lot of ways in which the equality of the sexes has not been reached yet. For example last year, a large-scale, representative study was made by the EU in over 25 European countries with over 30,000 participants. The survey found that about A THIRD of all Europeans consider rape to be acceptable and justifiable "in some situations". Now, this is from Europe but I am sure it would be the same in North America since we are not that different. Remember: these weren't some African immigrants who participated in the survey, it was Europeans from western Europe. As long as we have these kinds of attitudes, feminism is desperately needed. Besides, pay equality also still doesn't exist. Right-wingers on GaG love to claim that the wage gap (cont.)
can be explained with structural differences (women work less etc.) but even if you exclude all these factors, you are left with a "mystery difference" of about 10% that simply cannot be explained. Besides, many of these structural differences are themselves a result of old-fashioned, patriarchic gender roles. For example the reason women work less is because many men expect them to stay home and look after the children after they give birth.
Why do you need feminism to that? Also, did they say when rape is certainly acceptable? Maybe one of the reasons was that if a girl or boy has drunk too much by their own will and then agrees to have sex with a partner, but then regrets it in the morning and says that they were forced to have sex/were unable to decide, they would claim it to be a rape? And I live in western Europe too and oh trust me, this is just as crazy as in the US, compared to what feminism is for example in the Middle east.
But the thing is that no one is forcing women to stay at home in first world countries. It's her own damn choice. You dont need feminism to that, you need ability to just do what you want. No one is stopping you.
No, no, no. They said RAPE. Nothing like "ah maybe they said this but it was actually that..." etc. No, the question was very clear: "Do you believe rape is acceptable in some cases?" Having sex with a girl who is drunk and says yes is NOT rape. This has NOTHING to do with accused rape or alleged rape where the girl changes her mind in the morning.
Rape is a violent and forceful way of having sex with a woman who clearly does not want to.
THAT is what a third of European men find acceptable.
The role of feminism is to raise awareness of these blatantly misogynistic attitudes and attempt to make people a little more civilized. Rape is 100% wrong. There are no shades of grey. Brutally forcing someone to have sex is wrong. Period.
"it's her choice"
Have you ever heard about societal pressure?
Are you from Turkey or what?
Oh sorry I thought it was a question for both, not just men. And yeah but what I meant is that people can understand rape on different ways based on their own experiences etc. For example if you would ask that question from me, I would, ve said yes, in some cases. Because nowadays women tend to claim this and that to be a rape. People understand that question in different ways.
Also, why was that rape question made only for men? Sexism much?
No, rape cannot be understood in different ways. The term rape is very clearly defined legally. If you "understand" it in the way you did, then you just don't know what "rape" means. There is zero room for interpretation here. And frankly, I find it sad that you defend people who have those disgusting opinions. Rape is not okay, just like murder. I don't know why we're even having a discussion about this. Any person with common sense knows that rape is wrong.
But why don't you just google the study and read it yourself. This is getting rather frustrating:
I prefer a nonfeminist girl over a feminist any time. A feminist woman is always trying to change guys. Which won't work because we are just this way. Feminists want to make us more like girls socially. Keep it all in and just talk about our feelings. God forbid you tell a feminist that she is pretty.
A nonfeminist will accept you for just being a guy. When you say something that a guy would. She dismisses it cause she knows your mind works that way. Instead of getting all bent out of shape.
Like in this question, spot the feminist. Yeah girls like her are not fun to be around.
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He'll no why would I want a woman who thinks my very being is privileged and I'm wrong for following my role as a man. Evolution made me but to feminist I will never be what they want. So he'll no take that sjw my tampons are too expensive shit elsewhere
Ill date an old first wave feminist over a hot third waver anyday
I don't have a problem with normal feminists that aren't insane.
Those crazy chicks that are talking just a bunch of crap that doesn't make sense at all, like the ones you see on television however, you can sell to slavery... lol kinda harsh but fuck those chicks.
Non feminist... feminist seem like they have a chip on their shoulder and need to prove something. I don't mind being equal but when they want to be superior... time for them to take a chill pill. Besides typically feminists are feminists on their terms so when something they can't do comes up, all of the sudden their non feminism comes out lol. "Oh can you take out the garbage... too heavy for me ". Ah go fuck yourself... your a feminist... do it yourself haha
Feminists are honestly the worst and I'm glad to see majority of the guys on here are smart and would not date one
Like most men, I support gender equality 100% but I do NOT support the gynocentric feminist definition of "equality".
Considering what feminism has become, any woman who is willing to overlook all the absolute shit that feminism does today just to say she supports gender equality is a cunt who is not ever going to even get so much as a smile from me or any other self-respecting man who has half a brain.
Femenists are fine, Femenazis on the other hand can jump off a bridge. If they are willing to discuss and tolerate intelligent reasoning Id be attracted to them. If they randomly throw out opinions and judge you for disagreeing with them based on sound reasoning I would be repulsed.
I rather chop my own balls off than datin a feminist.
Not only are a lot of feminists nutcases, in the best cause they are just people wallowing in victimhood and naive about the reality of things (else they wouldn't believe in the cause of feminism in the west nor be oblivious to the rotten core it has).
Additionally I do not believe in equality to begin with - nor do I think it is in any way doable or feasible.
Equality yes. "Feminism" no.
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I'm never going to date a feminist knowingly. They are not oppressed and have no time listening to her complain about that and/or invalidate anything I may say. They are not for equality and haven't been for quite some time. It's really sad to see the millions of underlings parroting the same lies and half truths because they've been told so. Some of these guys will grow out of that.
And if she uses "intersectional" I can't be held accountable for what I might do, so it's best we don't mix.
Now, if they were in other parts of the world that may actually need old school feminism...
Hell no!
Feminism is a deal breaker.
As Milo said, Feminism is cancer.
No, cancer over feminism lol
ugh what guy in there right mind would want a girl that's a man hater, femnazis are just twatsore women who hate men.
I think that men who are truly secure in their own sexuality, and have good self-esteem and some higher education, would prefer a woman who has feminist ideas because she represents much more to him than a collection of body parts. If he sees her as an equal (which is what feminism is all about), he won't be intimidated by her outspoken nature.
Honey feminism means people who think women should have equal rights. If a guy doesn't want you to be equal to him how can he value you or your relationship? Be you and look out for you.
I mean girls who are calling themselves as feminists. I don't do that because i don't find it necessary in the country where I live. Maybe i should start calling myself a masculinist since men have less rights than women in the first world countries nowadays and I wanna change it.
Okay so how many states are there that are pushing legislation to take away men's rights?
The thing is that there's not much to take off. There should be more of them for men also.
Okay well there are 15 states and the federal congress trying to legislate against women's rights right now, today, as we speak.
You sound like one of those crazy feminists. Get up, go out and wake up to reality. Im pretty sure you live in the US, and if you do, be glad about how many rights you have, in fact, even more than men.
Why do I sound crazy?
I just went to your profile. Im done with you 😂
Why is that OP?
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You're hated by everyone here, including other women. I've seen enough of your misandrist comments.
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I prefer non feminist girls because they see men and women as equal
Bah hahahah NO. Feminist are cancer. Guys want a female who has enough intelligence to see through bullshit and lies, and who doesn't play victim.
Dating a feminist would be the dumbest thing a guy could do.
A girl who stands for gender equality, sure. Feminism has become too much of an obscure term that I don't accept it anymore. It's become a word where women can hide behind and use it as a scapegoat to ensure their insecurities don't get the best of them. Or even if they want support on something that isn't even related to feminism, they use feminism as their backdrop. I hate that. That's just me. If you think otherwise about my view on it, then so be it. I don't mind.
I would prefer if they weren't a feminist. I would admire them more if they focused on evolving themselves instead of throwing away all potential for a mere namesake. Plus, egalitarianism is objectively better than feminism, but that goes without saying.
Obviously not. Feminists are crazy.
I'd much rather data a girl who isn't a hate filled crazy bitch, and actually believes in equality AND is clever enough to know what feminists are really like and smart enough not to associate with them.
Feminist girls in where I am from seems to think I should bow down and fucking pay double taxes for being a white guy. So I will stamp out any feminism out of a serious partner
No. Hate feminists. What if I were to become a masculinist? Equal rights means equal meaning right? For the opposite sex. Explain that to me
I'd rather have a Woman who can listen to both sides of an argument before making up her own mind about "The Great Gender Blame Game."
Non-feminist. I like my women attractive and mature, not whiny little kids.
I'm a woman and I don't like feminist. I'll never date a feminist man. I want a real man.
non feminist girls simply because there will less talking other issues with which we can enjoy each other's time.
which country are you from asker?
Finland, the land of feminism..
okay. and you don't like it? ? you will be really busy with dates if guys know this in your country.
No i don't personally like it but I don't care because I will move abroad ASAP 🙈 hahaha
good for you. 👍
Nope, not me. Guys like myself prefer moderate (neither left or right but in the between) or more conservative women. However, there are some guys that don't care if they are feminist or not, they'll date the woman either way.
I think women who are feminists would more likely be into the kind of relationship dynamic I'd prefer.
They may or may not. What matters most though, is that the woman likes herself. Letting yourself be held down and held back can make a person very miserable.
Anti-feminist men are a drag to be around. And they are horrible in bed. Bad fathers. Crummy husbands. Who needs that?
I love a strong, independent woman who believe in equality. I think not only is it inspiring for them to be a feminist, fighting for equality but also sexy.
Though not the extreme, crazy feminists... they're too insane and give feminism a bad name
Non feminist. There's enough trouble in relationships already. The last thing a guy needs is a woman with a chip on her shoulder from the start.
i love them because they free willed and express there opinions on guys which is what i want. dont get me wrong i love a cute girl that makes you smile and all but they have to be exactly like this if they want me to be
interested in them.
Non feminist girls. Because I want a wife to meet my needs not a woman who wants a husband bound by traditional gender stereotypes while she is bound by none.
Feminists should not have anything to do with me as a male it should make you better and not make me worse.
It's hard to stand up and be = with all the social expectations then it is to kick the social expectation in the nuts till we fight back.
So basically what im saying stand up for what you believe in without stepping on anyone else which it is exceptional hard to do
I hate feminism because most of them are not fighting for what they are pretending to be. I like "feminists" like Emma Watson, people who are actually fighting for equality/equity. But I don't prefer them over non-feminists for sure.
No, the word "feminist" has been desecrated
They fought for equality, today's feminist want a softened version of what they have now and more benefits, they don't want to experience what a man does socially and economically, but greater than what a man does. They're essentially taking away what previous generations fought so hard for, this shit pisses me off, a woman today shouldn't be able to call herself feminist. They're shitheads.
No, they want non-feminist women, because they're easier to control. A feminist wouldn't take their bullshit.
"If he doesn't like bitches, it means he wants to control women."
That is classic black & white feminist thinking.
I think it's more about the image western feminists have given about themselves. They seem to focus a lot on what MEN are doing wrong and only trying to achieve women's rights, which is... already achieved mostly. I live in a country where women are already above men so I've kind of started to hate feminists as well.
Third wave Feminism is evil man spreading tampon taxes while first wave feminist are out there combating forced me ravage and genital mutilation. I respect first wavers dispose modern feminist.
Forced marriage not even on third waves radar what I meant these girls are trying to combat men while ignoring they raised them ignoring they are there sons. These modern feminist are anti family
@willwhitez
Seems to me that the male vision of "family" is having a female servant. Exactly why should women aspire to a life of servitude under a lazy or potentially violent man?
If you choose to ignore evolution your choice my wife is treated better than any of you feminist could wish for. She raises my kids and I would kill for her. If that is mysgony so be it that's my wife and she deserves all I can provide.
Woman evolved to be the soft hand behind strong men. A family unit requires compassion and a stern hand only a man and woman can provide together.
Opinion owner, you are an idiot. People dont have problem with women who speak for themselves, we have problem with IDIOTS and sadly you and a lot of feminists have that in common. I will never be with a women who calls me privileged and hates me just for existing. You are pathetic
Exactly how can I spend my life with someone who thinks I'm privileged or wrong for being how mother nature made me?
I go to take a sip of coffee, come back, and surprise surprise, a bunch of angry men jump down a woman's throat for disagreeing with them.
I'm not going to address insults, but the rest I will with a larger idea: transparent ideology. The idea is if you hear someone say "that's just how things are" or "how things have always been," understand that those "things" are rarely that way due to natural forces, but instead by cultural conditioning and even physical forces (violent coercion). Eventually, those become habit and "just the way things are"
But they don't HAVE to be that way. And the subservient position thrust on women is one of those things. If you don't like that women don't want to be your servants -- tough shit.
When men begin to have babies then you'll be correct but mother nature and evolution dictated my behavior be mad at science not me. I was born this was so who's being tolerant here?
Fucking preach!
opinion owner you make no sense. you are literally generalizing men who have a negative opinion on feminists which is well warranted. you reach the most illogical conclusions and when people sit and read your replies they think you are just an irrational idiot. Here is the truth, If a women is a feminists and portrays me as privileged and the oppressor than I have literally lost all respect for that person and no, its not because you are a women and I am scared of you speaking up for your self. you are no different than minorities who sprout the same narrative except its white people, rather than men. People like you are so primitive. I am glad that the majority of women are not so one dimensional and ignorant.
@applesandoranges22
Gotta love the claim "you reach the most illogical conclusions." Easy and lazy thing to throw at a woman. Play at the (false) stereotype that they aren't logical. Get support from other men by playing to their prejudices.
You think I'm irrational? Prove it. Break down my opinions into a classical syllogism, then prove or disprove each of the premises.
And if you aren't going to do that -- take your irrational insult and shove it.
None of my women think I A misogynist they love when I treat em like whores care to explain why
@willwhitez Because they are uneducated rednecks?
I am a male feminist and proud of it
in some countries, women don't have equal rights and are afraid to even be alive
@ErinTheConquerer omg for real?
there was no need for the sarcasm, I was arguing your point 😞
people like you are the reason feminism is associated with crazy bitches
I bet you're a white feminist who still thinks women in first world countries like America and England are being oppressed and mistreated, when you basically disregard those in countries who actually need to be fought for. Sorry, but you aren't being treated like a servant or anything of the sort so stop feeling sorry for yourself and do something with the life you're privileged to have
@ErinTheConquerer ah sorry 😂
opinion owner you are still an idiot. I didn't say you were illogical for being a women, you did. You are so threatened and insecure that you self project your issues on other people. The only possibility to you is that its because you are a women. you poor poor victim. Are you really that primitive and one dimensional that all you can think of is ''its because Im a women!'' for your information, some of the smartest people I have met are women, but they didn't get by just playing the women card when they were wrong. They actually approached life with common sense. you on the other hand think that if someone gives you facts and calls you out on it, its because we dont like to hear women speak for themselves when the truth is, we just dont like idiots.
@ErinTheConquerer and people like the conqueror is a perfect example of a women who speaks up for herself, but actually has a brain while doing it. take notes, OP
Ikr lady said all I wanted to say so clearly I respect that you of woman am I feminist now lol
I can't even imagine to be with a non feminist girl. It is just logical to be feminist, every lifing being should seek equality with others. Not being feminist just means that you are fine with the status of women in society? I would really have some arguments with a non feminist girl ;)
"With the status of women in society"? Bahahahhahaha. What country are u talking about? If you are talking about Western countries, i won't even start arguing with someone so dumb like you.
NEVER...
Why would any guy want some man hating, feminazi? Feminism is such a horribly nasty word. I stay far away from any woman that says she is one.
Well there's the femanazis but I highly doubt that I would be dating one of them because most of them are lesbians. I have no issues with equal pay and all that jazz but equality means equal, not just when it works out best for you.
Nah, them being feminists just shows they care about one sex over the other and I want nothing to do with that.
I'm in a first world country as well and trust me equality has not yet been reached...
you might think it's there because it's a gotten better but women are still getting less interviews for the same credentials and resumes and are earning lower wages for the same work. so please do your research man!
@Matt21 but meanwhile women has "sooo" many equality issues in the first world countries, did you realize that men have those issues too, maybe even more if we look at the law?
@Matt21 And men are much less likely to get custody of their kids, spend more time in prison for the same crimes, don't get to decide whether they are ready to be a parent even tho women can, etc.
Yes equality hasn't been reached but that doesn't mean the system is in the favor of men as you seem to insinuate. And I can tell you right now that equality will never be reached because the sexes are simply not equal, men and women have a ton of differences which will make it impossible to reach true equality.
Also no women are not paid "less for the same work", it is literally illegal to discriminate pay based on sex. My uncle and his new wife are both police officers and they earn the same amount.
Don't fucking go around telling people to do their research when you don't have the slightest fucking clue what you're talking about.
Men and women both have their issues and I would never date someone who only cared about the problems of one sex. Aka. Feminists.
men can decide whether they want to be a parent or not... don't knock her up in the first place! and seriously you're going to use abortion as an advantage for women! it's not your body and you have very little say in the matter besides indicating if you're willing to help with the baby.
as for the other thing you said you're right you're comparing apples to oranges and you have no idea how to look at things in a way that doesn't involve multiple factors women get less jail time and get their kids more because they often Show more remorse for their actions etc...
and just because two people get paid the same doesn't mean shit. it's still happened everywhere!
@Matt21 woman can also decide if she wanna keep the baby or not, the man can't say anything in that situation.
@Matt21 These aren't "advantages" I'm talking about the disadvantages men have in society since you seem to believe that society is only unfair towards women. I've already said two times that BOTH SEXES HAVE THEIR ISSUES. That includes women AND men.
If a couple have sex, they use a condom but the condom accidentally breaks and the girl gets pregnant the guy has no say whether he is ready to be a parent or not, but the girl does. This doesn't mean I wan't the girl not to have a choice either, this just means that you shouldn't force the guy to have to take responsibility for her actions if she decides she wants to keep it.
And I'm not comparing anything to anything you dumbass, I'm pointing out injustices. And it really blows my mind that you are actually trying to defend these injustices against men.
And no your point about the remorse shit is complete bullshit, since women get shorter sentences for everything.
@Matt21 And just because of two people? I literally just fucking told you that it is ILLEGAL to pay different amounts to workers based on sex. You are not allowed to pay women and men differently for the same work. Besides if you were allowed to do that why wouldn't everyone just hire female employees since you'd have to pay them less? It would make no sense to hire male employees.
You are so fucking uneducated about all of this and you still try to talk like you knew shit. Educate yourself.
@Matt21 And how large of a percentage do you think CEO's make of the population?
You were whining about men being paid more than women for the "same work" but now you're only talking about the richest 1%? You're honestly a fucking joke of a person.
You haven't argued about anything, you tell me to do more research when you don't even fucking understand where the wage gap actually comes from. You were defending injustices towards men just a moment ago and you say that I only see what I want to see. You are a spineless fucking doormat who will do anything to suck up to women cause you're that desperate for female attention.
@Matt21 Not just government jobs, you're not allowed to discriminate pay based on sex anywhere. And again if you could actually get away with paying women less then why aren't everyone just hiring women instead of men?
The wage gap is an extremely complicated subject and it's cause is based on a ton of different things: Men working longer hours on average, maternity leave, men being more career oriented on average, female dominated careers having lower pay than male dominated ones.
So when you say something as like "women are paid less for the same work" you are just showing how completely ignorant and uneducated you are about the subject. So don't fucking tell other people to "do their research" when you obviously haven't done yours. Stop being an idiot.
I prefer non-Feminists females. My wife is not a feminist. We as a couple do not have friends who are feminists or liberals. Our children do not hang around other kids which their parents or the kids are feminists or liberals.
Okay. That's interesting. And what do u find negative about in liberals?
No, they're annoying.
But I meet this one who I think might maybe into me and I kinda want to date her because I think it would be fun. I'm like, totally not a feminist haha.
As long as they stay rational. Feminist often make arguments and become over emotional. This could lead to arguments
I don't mind a strong woman, i even promote it and it is attractive. but the is a difference between being a feminist (a strong woman) and being a radical (make everything about feminism) those girls r crazy have you seen the videos on youtube!
no preference. as long as she's into me and doesn't expect me to get too involved in things I'm not interested in, or expect me to not get involved with things I want to be involved in, we'll be fine.
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