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I said this a few minutes ago as well, I've got good looking female friends, a lot of guys are thirsty I suppose, just a combination of not giving any mixed signals
To add to this, it's all about intent, they probably want to get more out of it in the first place
well usually I like to with some but they usually tend to spazz out or think that I wanted to get in their pants when I actually just wanted to hang out (people whom I don't hang out with to me are not called friends).
Yes! I have at least one close female friend and several casual female friends that I love but would not want to have a romantic relationship with.
Yes, but they rarely want the normal kind of friendship girls want, they want the normal kind of friendship guys want with girls.
Guys and girls can never be true friends, just lovers.
N E V E R. If anyone says that men and women can be friends, they're liars 😄
I don't think so
@Premihoo if a guy tries to initiate a friendship, he mostly likely will try to move in on her, eventually. this has been my experience 100% of the time.
But I have lot of friends in a group where we like to hang out in group
And what about your friends gf/bf
@Premihoo same. this video pretty much sums it up:
https://youtu.be/T_lh5fR4DMA
Yup right
Youtoo, the only thing all the guys in your life have in common is you.
Of course girls and guys can be friends. I must have 5+ close girl friends, they are beautiful but I want to be sexual with them as much as I want to be sexual with a grandma. Gross! They are friends!
Exactly ! Finally someone who gets it
Well the first thing it takes is a guy who is not desperate, and who can get his dating needs met outside of his friendships. If he can do that comfortably then ruining friendships to date is nuts. If a guy can't do the latter, then his dating life and friendship life start to merge.
Yes, they can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKA4w2O61Xo
@Losalt that was a really cool video!!!
Thanks, and yeah, it *is* cool.
The point with it though is that you can't draw conclusions with too small a sample size or preconcived notions or try to *prove* things...
So for instance your experience *proves* that not *all* men can be friends with all women.
But making universal statements about all men or all women...
Yeah, that's just a bad idea...
@Losalt that's true, although I did point out that it has been my experience, which is still not a big a sample size if I'm not mistaken :) But yes confirmation bias is one of the banes of humanity! The video illustrated that beautifully.
Thanks for that. It made me reconsider my opinion actually.
Good, even a samle size of a thousand is *tiny* in a world with something like 7,6 billion people...
Something like 0.00001315789% I think?
Might have done the math wrong...
But you get the idea...
Rather try to be friend with boy and see whether it works or not
@Losalt haha wow well when you put it that way the odds are certainly not in your favor :p
OK but ya one can try
@Premihoo trust me I've been there, and it ends badly, but I always give people the benfit of the doubt, despite my own biases. You just never know. by the way you should watch the video that Losalt posted in the thread, it's very interesting and informative on the topic of confirmation biases
OK I trust you
@youtoo Here's another video that might be of interest btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo
It's kind of related to the above video I posted.
@Losalt oh my god 💀 Lol
That is SO crazy!! And what's even crazier is that I've heard of this test before ðŸ˜ðŸ˜‚
Let me guess, you did *not* spot the gorilla till they showed it again at the end?
@Losalt Lol 😅 Did you?
Yes, every time I saw it this year...
That said, I *think* I missed the gorilla the very first time I saw the video a long, long time ago...
That said, you haven't owned up to not seeing the gorilla yet. ;-)
*Do* tell if you saw it or not. :-P
@Losalt Lol! I hate to admit it, but no I didn't. Scary stuff! :p
@youtoo
Yeah, we *really* don't see the world around us or even percieve reality like it really is.
It's a heavily edited and curated version with lots and lots of modifications done by our brain that is comming out on the other side for our consiousness to deal with.
Everything from confirmation bias to inventing colours that don't exist (purple does not exist in the real world but is just experienced when we see light at both ends of the spectre at the same time), our brain patches up holes in our vision where we truly are blind (there's a big black hole in the middle of your field of view in each eye where it's possible to hide things if you know the right tricks etc)
Neither our memory nor our eyes nor even our skin can be trusted fully.
@Losalt so what can we trust? Intuition/instincts?
Nope.
Epistomology shows us that fundamentally there's only one thing we *can* know for sure.
I, this consiousness doing the thinking am able to think, therefore I *must* exist in some form or other, otherwise the very thought that I exist would not be possible.
If that form in any way, shape or form is connected to the input that this consiousness has is not possible to know for sure.
*However* if I use a few axioms (as few as possible) I *can* deduce pretty much the whole of modern day science through experimentation and logic.
@Losalt Very impressive response!
Thanks, I try. ;-)
But this is basically just what you get in the first year at university here in Norway.
The class is called ex. phil. (examen philosophicum) and is a requirement for taking *any* study in university at all in this country.
Epistomology and things like occams razor are important to understand how to do proper research.
No they are not thats why as soon as i say lets be friends i don't want to be in a relationship. They are like dont talk to me.
The answer is an unequivocal yes. In fact I've always been more comfortable being friends with women than men, especially when they do realize that I'm only interested in friendship and nothing else.
If they already have their romantic/emotional needs fulfilled, then yes it's possible.
Well, i have two very good girlfriends right now. Don't ever plan on hooking up with them. Well, i sort of like one of them, but she ain't single, and i can be friends with her really well so. That don't matter.
In college most of my friend are guys. there more guys with a learning disabled in my college.
All my friends are guys, so definitely yes. It’s only natural for there to be some attraction sometimes and sometimes it’s mutual so things happen.
Guys and girls think completely different. So guys are probably a little clueless on where the relationship is at. Girls are hard to read. I don't know what they're thinking about a lit of the time. So it is both ways. Guys and Girls don't really understand each other. That is why we try to get to know the other
I do have sincere guy friends, maybe it's because I don't look like dating material 😂
I have plenty of female friends that I've never tried to hook up with or date. Those are immature douchebags and you're better off without them.
I am I find most guys rude and enjoy being friends with females more
Yes, 100%. I would say I have am even split of close male / female friends. Most guys, but not all, are just trying to get it in. There are exceptions. And more than you would think.
Yes we are interested in just being friends with girls.
Very rarely can a guy be friends with a girl and not feel attracted to her, unless she is butt ugly or he has immensely great willpower. Usually, if they DM u out of nowhere, it's a 90% guarantee they like u
Yes, my best friend has been a girl for the past 8 years..
AND for the record, I've never been romantically/physically attracted to her. I think she's pretty, but.. Kinda like you (as a hetero male) think a guy friend is good looking, and probably would do well with girls..
And once when we were still in high school, she THOUGHT she wanted to date me after we'd known each other and gotten close for a year and a half or so.. But I talked with her about it, and told her how I felt, and explained to her that I feel like she only thinks that because "I'm the only guy she knows who is always nice to her, honest with her about things, and care for her as a person and keep her best interests in mind when I do it." and she agreed that I was probably right.
90% of my friends are guys. Yes a few of them want to get with me but some of them are just wanting to be friends and I know this because its been said and no moves have been made yet I've known them for years.
Or at least not that you're aware of.. lol
My best friend is my ex-girlfriend who has now been with her current boyfriend for two years. It's not awkward and there's no residual feelings.
almost all my male friends failed 2 of them tried to rape me so fuck that they will turn on u one day just one was really great to me but he was gay
I have lot of friends for hangout
Sound like you ran into bad luck
I'm not sure how to answer that. I for example have female friends, but I fancy all of them. And had something going on with one of them for a little while. So, for me, I can't think of a girl as a friend.
I have friends that are girls that I chill with frequently and have friendzoned me entirely. I'm perfectly fine being just friends though.
I honestly am not, but if it happens eventually, it's fine, but I won't go after her looking for a friendship.
Yes, men can be in it just for the friendship with no sex in return. I’ve done it plenty of times where we would just hang out as friends without any sexual issues
Thats not true i all cases but yes there. is quite a. majority of guys out there who actually do that. One just has to know the difference between a gentleman and a lustful common guy
I think that's a lie as I'm friends with many girls although at the start I was pulling them 😂. But when it didn't work out I became friends with them. I also continued to be friends with them, not breaking off the friendship
Yes we do, in fact, most of my friends are girls.
We just interact better.
Yes usually girls think that men want what's between there thighs so end up with either girls trying to avoid you or one who wants to date
But Yes it's possible my best friend is a girl and we are really close but not in any sexual way so yeah
Women make that difficult, especially sending their mixed messages. You can't be all over a guy and just expect him to want to be friends
It only works if they're not attracted to you. You can't be that selfish not to realize that. Which guy in his right mind do you think won't do that?
Yeah I have a few friends that are girls. I’ve got no interest in dating them but we hang out all the time
We don't actively search for it. Why are women obsessed with male friends?
We're not.. or at least Im not. I have only 2 friends, both male, one of them is my current boyfriend, other i grew up with. Its really rare that I'll find someone interesting enough to actually want to talk to. It just so happens I dont go out of my way to talk to people because I'm always busy. So the only people who come to me are normally male. We'll have something in common, and talk a few times here & there til they realize im with someome and its all childish from there.
Im not understanding your answer?
"Are guys ever interested in really being friends with girls?" ^^^^ my answer
Honestly, I think yes but there is always someone deep in your brain that says "try if it would work" . If it doesn't work or you're in a good relationship then there can be good friendships.
Those are fake guys who have to lie to talk to females and pretend to be friends
Yes! I have been tryin to have more friends that are girls but they always think I want to get in their pants. I always flirt and have fun, but that’s what it is, just fun
Yeah , have you ever seen a horse, being FRIENDDS with GRASS, LEAVES And FLOWER.
Yes they are. The guys that you talk are interested in relationship not all of them are like this
because sum guys want hook ups an others feel your guy mite get jealous
One of my best friends is a girl and I’m definitely not gay. You just need to find some good guys
Yup. I really want to have some close female friends but never did
There is still time.
Yes. Unfortunately, trying to stay friends can make you seem like an orbiter
Most of my friends are female and i have no romantic interest in them. So yea it is possible
My best friend is a girl and she's the only one I have yet and don't really want to fuck, so yes we have friends of the female variety.
It depends on the guy and situation. For instance, bud of mine from work talks about going after a girl for sex being blunt about, me, I just want friends to listen to play music.
In my opinion, no. I used to hang out with some really cool girls that had no damn time for boys. There's a difference between sexual intentions and friendly intentions.
only if the girls are ugly adn extremely fun/interesting personalities.
I think they can, buy the guy has to be completely unattracted to the girl. Otherwise, he'll say something stupid and thirsty, and he'll ruin the perfectly good friendship.
Yeah cuz that is why female friendzone also exist xD.
95 percent guys do not like only-friendship relation with a girl.
Yes of course. I could ask that about the Gals do they want to be friends.
Your not as much fun as my friends. I don't need additional friends. I need a lover!
Actually i have 3 friends who are girls, i tend to open up to them MUCH more easier than guys.
More than a gang a guy would prefer a wild and crazy girl as his partner in crime
Some are but, you probably won't be able to find the right person for that
Yes, I have multiple female friends and I don't intend to make a move on anyone
I could only befriend a girl if we both already had someone.
Yep. I have lots of female friends. Without any kind of sexual tension.
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