My height has never really bothered me. Although it's an obvious disadvantage it has never hindered me when it comes to dating and finding women who were interested in me mainly because thoughts about height never enter my head and it never knocked my confidence.
However I can see why it would bother some guys. I mean you're asking why short guys are so insecure while mocking them at the same time. That's what most people do.
No matter what a short guy does he's always going to be mocked and looked down on (literally, lol) by many people. In fact there have been times where I'd say for example that height doesn't matter and I'd tell guys not to be so insecure about their height, mention my own experiences, and then someone else would come and make some kind of negative comment.
Even if the short guy tries not to be insecure others will try to knock him back down and make him feel insecure, then they'll ask why he's so insecure and call him stupid.
The "short man syndrome" or "Napoleon complex" is another thing people mention all the time. For me, lifting weights and training martial arts is something that other people have used to accuse me of having this. Yet why did I begin to do these things? Because as a short kid at school, and my school was pretty rough, I was seen as an easy target for bullies so I had to learn how to defend myself. So it's kind of a lose-lose situation if you give a shit about what other people think of you. It's kind of like they'll criticise you no matter what.
The only solution really is to try to not give a shit about what those people think. But if anything to me it's those people who are the idiots, and that's why I'm able to ignore them.
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Shouldn't they be made fun of like incels are? Everyone can come together on making fun of incels.
Not really. Mocking somebody for something they can't control is a little fucked up. Incels are a different story, they get mocked because they have such stupid ideas.
I mean by definition being involuntarily celibate is out of their control too, yet we all have a good time ripping all guys who are virgins when they fail to get sex.
You're right though, they think their good enough when no women wants them is a fucking retarded idea š.
Right, but you're saying all men who never had sex but want to universally all think the same thing. So based on their sexual status we can judge them on beliefs.
You have no issue doing that but you think I'm wrong for doing it to shirt people?
No, what I'm saying is that people shouldn't be mocked for things they can't control. If it's something they can control e. g. thinking stupid things, then it's not really a problem. They can change the way they think.
Even with incels though, I don't mock them unless they seem to cling to stupid ideas like I said. I don't as you say have fun mocking virgins who can't get laid just because. Some of them again maybe don't know any better. Sometimes they're just confused and lacking in confidence because of some fucked up shit that happened in their childhood, that isn't their fault. Those people can sometimes change the way they think and improve their lives with a bit of advice, and I prefer to try to help those people up rather than continue to knock them down.
However, if someone is an incel just because they feel entitled to women without having anything to offer, without taking any responsibility for their own lives, because they're lazy etc. Even despite being given good advice, then yeah I'll mock those people.
Think about the purpose of mockery. It's really about shaming people. And what's the purpose of shame? It's really a low level punishment used to discourage people from negative behaviour and stupid ideas.
No, the people I'm talking about mainly are the guys who label themselves incels and obsess over it, and then spread their stupid ideas. For example they'll claim that women are all gold-digging whores who only want money, and that this is the reason that they can't get laid, when that's not the case. Or they'll claim that women don't like men of whatever race and that this is the reason they can't get laid, when that's not the case. Usually it's simply because they have other flaws that they refuse to acknowledge or work on, which if they did they'd be able to get laid. But it's easier for them to blame something else, call women whores and leave it at that. The reason I'll mock those types of guys is because their ideas spread misogyny and they basically have this crabs in the bucket mentality where they try to drag as many other people (other men) down to their level. I'll also mock misandrist feminists who spout stupid ideas about men for the same reason.
"Even with incels though, I don't mock them unless they seem to cling to stupid ideas like I said. I don't as you say have fun mocking virgins who can't get laid just because. Some of them again maybe don't know any better. Sometimes they're just confused and lacking in confidence because of some fucked up shit that happened in their childhood, that isn't their fault. Those people can sometimes change the way they think and improve their lives with a bit of advice, and I prefer to try to help those people up rather than continue to knock them down."
I actually dont think incels exist. im ugly , short (5'3). and I'm not insecure. and I've had woman out of my league flirt with me. i think incels are just afraid to talk to woman. how do I know? because i used to be afraid. it's incels own fault they are still single.
First off, there are several short men who don't really care about their height; It's not black and white.
With that out of the way, i think it's the same reason many groups of people are insecure such as fat people. Growing up really fat, other kids would occasionally make these seemingly small remarks about my weight or they would just straight up call me fat. I can remember several of these instances vividly and they kinda shaped how I viewed the world, and that was that people don't like fat people, meaning people just don't like me.
I'm willing to bet many short people went through the same thing in their own way and they probably felt like shit for being short, like people just naturally like them less.
There's also the issue of the 'ideal male image' that's spread around seeminly everywhere, with height being one of the main components.
Really it all comes down to: This person wants to fit in, but this aspect of them keeps them from fitting in. Ironic considering how much we preach about standing out while we're growing upā»
Because women bitch about how they love tall men all the time online and on real life. My brother is short guy and his girl friend talked about how she loves tall men only not like my brother ( in front his face). I wanted to punch the shit out of her cause sheās an ugly fuck and shouldnāt be having any standard but i kept my coolness. Next thing my brother going to the gym and want to take these harmful shit to build muscles to compensate for his height. So i blame all the girls for being disrespectful and height shame shouldnāt be ok cause thereās no way you can change it. Also i blame men for hurting women who r fat, yes fat can be changed but thatās not an excuse to make a fat person life miserable. We can all shut up about our preference and date in silence who we like, without hurting anyoneās feelings
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Sadly there's no drawback for women. If a woman wants a tall guy she can sit and complain, and society will tell her "it's men who aren't good enough for you", if a guy does the same, no one gonna try to console him or anything. Many guys end up like your brother sadly. Hope he's not taking steroids or experimental treatments. But it always feels like we have to do that or end up alone.
It's like asking "Why are women with small breasts insecure?" It's because of what the opposite gender has said. I've seen a lot of girls saying that guys need to be this tall, and things like that. I think it's those comments that make "short men" insecure... I don't even know what a definition of "short" is? To me, physical height is not everything. The height of the mind matters.
We arenāt insecure, we simply canāt stand heightists who have overinflated egos and like to go around acting like the world should kneel before them just because they are above the average height.
Ironically itās usually tall folks (not all) who are insecure. They usually go around constantly having to brag about how ātoughā and ācompetentā they supposedly are. And when they are out performed by a shorter person in any field, they start throwing tantrums, making excuses and throwing all sorts of ad hominems instead of just being humble.
News flash if a person has to constantly remind people of how tough and competent he or she is, then that person is probably lacking in both of those areas and is also most likely projecting a superiority complex.
Probably because the internet pushes this bullshit that men under 6' has no chance in dating, better jobs, etc. and some of these men actually believe this bullshit and are tricked into believing that they've been done wrong by society.
I believe it's due to what society has created around what an "ideal man" should be like. When most people picture a couple, they usually picture a man, usually about 6' or taller, with a female, usually about a few inches shorter. What you don't picture is a couple being essentially the same height. People tend to say that "height doesn't matter", but will then go on to say how they love tall men and such. It's hard to find a female when you've been raised watching movies and shows with the man being this tall, 6'4 guy who just looks like a sex symbol, only to finally hit puberty and realize you're only a few inches taller than before you hit it.
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In the end women decide what's what, so sucks I guess. No reason to be insecure though
Looking at this chat, it seems the Asker has touched a nerve on short guys 😂
They are probably insecure because women have stated a "you must be this tall to ride" clause. They feel inferior and feel like they have less of a chance than the average guy.
I've seen a short guy pick up women pretty easily to be honest... if your personality is on point, and you create enough attraction, any preconceived ideas women have about the ideal man seem to crumble.
I don't blame them, being a manlet (5'10 and under) is one of the worst things that can happen to a man; I even consider it a physical disability. And it dries pussy quicker than a motherf*cker.
Thankfully I was blessed and grew to be 6'3 (man-more) and women love me.
I mean I think thereās some insecure men but not all? Just like thereās some insecure tall men but not all.
Personally Iām not insecure about anything particular. I tend to overthink a lot though and that holds me back. But once Iām outside of my own mind I soar.
Because the general consensus is men are taller than women, and the most popular opinion is "I want to date a man that's taller than me" And "I want to date a woman who's shorter than me." And the general feeling is that men need to be powerful and women need to be protected n such It's just toxic masculinity at play, really sucks
Because of the expectation that guys need to be tall.. If that's a lot of what you hear of course it'll strike insecurity into you.. But there are a lot of short guys who gain security by workin out, honing they personality, or bein successful.. Stuff like that..
I'm 6'2 but my short friends get much more action then me because girls think they cute and I'm too much to handle so I don't know. I think its6more of a preference thing. And I think they have self esteem issues because it's harder to do their job as a man in terms of helping
I have talked to 3 Asian girls in the last 6 months 1 Filipino 1 Hmong and 1 Chinese. They are easy to me if I'm being honest because all they care about usually is height looks and money but women I grew up with try to play hard to get with me and I'm not for all that
For the same reason flat women are insecure... the majority of the opposite sex judge them on it.
Flat women think ALL men want big tits, short men think ALL women want tall men. This is based on the basic social truth that the majority of women will find taller men more attractive and the majority of men will find bigger tits more attractive.
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Yea but men are told to never let other peoples opinions affect you, why are all short men not able to do that?
Being told not to let something bother you and having something bother you is not as easy as simply not doing it... if a girl you liked called you ugly, you wouldn't just act like nothing, it would burn.
Exactly, this is why most short men are insecure, as ladies want tall men, just look at Tinder for examples. Asker of this post makes it sound like guys under 5ft 10 are the worst when in reality, that's more than half the male population's height. Perhaps the asker is short and is venting on to make him feel superior
Well there are some girls since there are some freaky people out there. If some guys can want a 600 pound woman then some girls could want a short man š (I'm 6 foot but just saying some people have preferences).
Pretty sure you just answered your own question there Asker. They are self conscious because people say and think that š. I have a friend who is a whole foot shorter than me except he's a wrestler and incredibly muscular. He literally sinks in the pool but I still crack jokes at him and get put in a head lock all the time š
The great, overwhelming majority of men on this planet are under 6 feet tall. So you consider them all to be inadequate no matter what? There's plenty of tall guys who're massive pussies. For an Asian girl, you sound pretty stupid.
@Physics-Man I don't really consider boys under six foot as men but yeah, being tall is a sign of good genetics. Also everyone knows short guys are weaker and tall men beat them up any day. So please stop..
Well actually I have a friend who is a foot shorter than me... yet he's a wrestler and can easily put me in a head lock in the blink of an eye. I make one short joke and 3 seconds later on on the ground with my arm twisted behind my back. He legit sinks in any body of water since he's pure muscle.
I've beaten several guys in my Brazilian jiujitsu classes who not only are nearly a foot taller, but they're also of a higher rank than I am. I'm short, but I'm stupendously strong, as any of the people I've worked out with will tell. I pulled off 111 proper form push-ups in 2 minutes in my unit in the Army; far more than any other soldier in the Company. Once again, you're speaking nonsense.
So I'm a lanky pussyboy even though I'm tall? That directly contradicts when you said "Also everyone knows short guys are weaker and tall men beat them up any day."
Interestingly enough, me beating those guys and pulling off 111 push-ups happened in my dreams... huh? Well it damn sure felt like I was awake...
Please! Do us all a favor and deactivate your account or just go away. We already have enough stupid people on this site, we could do very well with less of them!
@FaolanGrey yes because you can be tall and skinny like you weirdo. Ideally you want to be tall and broad shouldered like guy I'm currently dating. But still a tall lanky guy kicks a midgets ass any day of the week
@shyasiangirl you're making a pretty big assumption there. How would you know that im skinny? I get knocked down because he is a wrestler, he knows the moves to knock you down and I've never wrestled so I don't know the moves to prevent it. So I get swiped off my feet. You know kung fu and other Asian fighting methods? You dont have to be a hulking meat tank to do those and you can knock some people down. Take Jakie Chan for example.
I'd prefer if you used the word woman but thanks! I just think everyone are really forced to fit into some label. I like my men with a muscular dad bod and 5'9-5'10 ish (I am 5'5 so its not that tall in compare to me) but thats just me, it does not mean all men must gain weight because I dont like skinny or ripped men
Sorry. I just said female because why not. Nothing meant by it, my bad. But I'm 6 foot so I guess in right in the grey area where the unreasonable girl isn't pleased and the woman who is more reasonable doesn't like my height š
Lol your height is just fine, my ex was 6'2. I just meant that you dont have to be 6 feet tall to be attractive. Of course anything above 5'9 is attractive, I date men in many heights and weightz
Also I am a Pakistani, one of the reasons there is no East Pakistan anymore is because short Bengalis revolted against the stupid Punjabi height standard in our army and a short Indian Prime Minister, short Gurkha soldiers and short South Indian soldiers and short Mukti Bhaini Bengalis beat the shit out of our tall mostly Punjabi Pakistani army in 1971.
Not gonna happen, I more focus on my carrier first than female plus dude, u can hire a hooker if u only wanted to have sex... Another reason I'm not the type of guy like u.. I'm weird and I appreciate deep connection, no matter how pretty she is if I'm no being open no one can get inside me plus.. One more in asia, we don't do sex before married...
@Smiley_face101 Don't lie to short men to make them feel better, just tell it like 'shyasiangirl' tell the truth. You do more damage making up things like you prefer a 5'9 guy than it does them good.
Dude, I am only 5'5. I dont need a man who is 6'5. The best sexual experince I have ever had was with a guy who was "only" 5'10 and chubby but hell he was a god. (And he was packing a lot down there)
@Smiley_face101 I believe you're talking to an incel larping as "alpha", there's no convincing him what you like. Just go to r/IncelTears and read what they usually write about female height preference lol they literally use the same words, for some of them it's a weird way to cope with not having sex, like "thank God at least I'm not short". Also I'm 100% sure ShyAsianGirl is some incel's sock account trying to make females look bad (who tf writes like that with that profile photo lmao he clearly doesn't know how females think when they want to throw shades) The most attractive men on this planet are around the height range of Zac Efron - Dylan Sprouse, it's just much rarer for a man to be taller than 6'2 and good looking š
@Tessa01 lol what are you smoking? jason momoa, chris hemsworth, dwayne johnson, adam levine, ryan reynolds, bradley cooper, hugh jackman etc etc Most of today's famous men that women drool over are 6 foot or taller. Also male models which are usually the best looking guys aesthetically are also over 6 foot. Haha Zac Efron doesn't touch any of those names mentioned above in terms of sex appeal.
@Smiley_face101 tall men are more likely to be 'packing' than short men. A dick may look bigger on a little man but you can research for yourself on google or in person; a tall man's dick is usually (not always of course) in proportion with the rest of his body, because we have high levels of testosterone and growth hormone than 5 footers.
5ā5. 8 inches long and 5 1/2 wide on my best day. Never had a problem getting a date. Iāve dated both tall and short girls. Theyāre all the same. Some like you. Some trash talk men they donāt like online š¤·āāļø.
Lol nah. Iāve had my fair share of women. Not in the hundreds but enough to know height isnāt all that matters. Also. Only insecure people use terms like manlet, beta, alpha. Truly confident people donāt care because they know none of that stuff matters. I commented to prove the point that short men can be successful with dating. Itās all about making the best with what youāve got.
Because we derive our self worth from being protectors and providers. and being short puts you at a disadvantage as a protector. Women translate it to tall men are sexy so by def you must be unsexy particularly if they blow you off. So in short its insecurities. Focus on being a provider and the securities will vanish. Money solves a lot
Maybe because you can't change your height no matter how hard you try + tall is a standard a lot of women have so you instantly have a reduced dating pool for getting short genetics.
I'm tall, 6ft 1 and I find this horrible.
If you are overweight at least you can change it. There is nothing you can do to change your height.
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Because women chastise men for being short. Like how dare a short man exist in women's eyes.
Those same women then piss and moan that men dare have physical preferences too.
Just going to sit back and wait for the pink downvotes to tell me I'm right
I sincerely hope your drug dealing asshole tall boyfriend beats the shit out of you. Being in the ghetto, it should be a common thing right? Police won't even do anything about it because it is so common.
because you are making fun of people over something they can't control. So I will make fun of YOU for something you can ACTUALLY even control but are too dumb to do so. You don't do monogamy, EVEN BETTER. Multiple beatings, unexpected pregnancy, STDs , and single motherhood. Enjoy all of that you fucking worthless whore, you won't stay 20 forever.
@jonesjessica812 so dick size is all you have to offer? go ahead fuck this or a similar worthless bitch and see her take each and every penny from you and have you end up in jail, shortly followed by HELL. YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF GARBAGE. Here is what the Quran and the Bible say about where BOTH of you will end up if you don't change. The Bible states:
"And he gave a cry and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus, so that he may put the end of his finger in water and put it on my tongue, for I am cruelly burning in this flame."Luke 16:24
"And in addition, there is a deep division fixed between us and you, so that those who might go from here to you are not able to do so, and no one may come from you to us."Luke 16:26
"Unhappy are you who are full of food now: for you will be in need. Unhappy are you who are laughing now: for you will be crying in sorrow."Luke 6:25
Resemble the Quran stating:
"And the companions of the Fire will call to the companions of Paradise, "Pour upon us some water or from whatever Allah has provided you." They will say, "Indeed, Allah has forbidden them both to the disbelievers."17:50
"And between them will be a partition, and on [its] elevations are men who recognize all by their mark. And they call out to the companions of Paradise, "Peace be upon you." They have not [yet] entered it, but they long intensely."7:46
"So let them laugh a little and [then] weep much as recompense for what they used to earn."9:82
@Smiley_face101 I don't give a fuck about this worthless piece of trash. I care about the fact that she is making fun of OTHER people. THAT IS MY FUCKING BODY, not hers.
@Smiley_face101 there is a limit to what I can ignore and these two shitstains on society just crossed that limit and and the stupid report button does nothing.
I get you, I am not skinny and get body shamed all the time for that despite working out almost daily, eating healthy (even lost 42lbs but things take time) and etc... I know how it feels but it says more about her then it says about you
Your report button does nothing but make some moderator wonder how narcissistic and absurdly ignorant you must be. Your the one hoping harm comes to someone that's lacking compassion for you short stature. There are so many opportunities available you that are not available to others. Like you can be Jockeys, in Vietnam you couldve been a marine tunnel rat. You could have a job for life if you take a career as a midget clown. Midgets die young so there is always a shortage of midget clowns and I think that job provides a company car. Yes a clown car.
Tell that to Jason Bourne. It's a flawed deduction, people who are not confident enough are insecure but comparing with the height statistics isn't supported.
Because short mem are at a disadvantage. In a lot of ways. Especially physically especially I would hate to be short personally because I worry as Bout sdcc hort people getting hurt
Yeah, he apparently have it all. However are you really sure that as a vain man that he is, he is not insecure about being short? And his looks are nothing if he opens his mouth like in Oprah. The man believes in scientology for christ sake LOL
I can't deny he's not ugly, but not my type. I don't wanna sound arrogant or anything. God knows tom cruise would never look at me! LOL I'm just saying the truth!
Tom cruise will never look at trillions of women. Only famous women. Just like Kim Kardashian will never date a black man with a regular job as if a construction or warehouse worker.
He's ugly as hell. He looks decent on film but when you see him in real life or on red carpet he looks ridiculous with a large head and tiny body even the women dwarf him in heels. That is white privilege right there.
@jonesjessica812 it's a stereotype about Asian women that we love white men. It's totally untrue only the goldiggers and women looking for status go for whites. A lot of us would rather be with our own kind.
I'm asking for actual answers not excuses from insecure people. You gave me a question, not an answer. Women say they want confident men. What's your point?
In my experience the most abitous men are slightly below average in height it might be due to insecurity. I am rather tall and tend to be insecure. But then anecdotes are weak proof
I don't know I'm 6ft and I like being taller than most women I think it has a lot to do with the ideal Male image... like most girls love these celebrity guys until they find out there only 5'5
They just buy a big ass truck. and it evens it out for them. till they get out of it. and stand on floor. lol
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My ex is short and you're absolutely right. Not are short men only insecure they're very angry and try to overcompesate for their lack of height. My ex is 5'4" or 5'5" and very abusive, angry and insecure.
The way I see it, short height actually helps filter out the girls I would not want to be with even if I were tall, after all, who wants to be with someone who only likes you for your height alone?
Well said ShadowofRegret! I'm 6'5" and i'm always leery of tall women that approach me because i don't know if they're drawn to me or just my height and i don't want to be with someone so shallow.
Ask the bagel guy. he's the type of guy who'd go in a shooting rampage with women. They're insecure because they dont stand up when big 6"5, muscular handsome men are around.
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Maybe we should like put short men on a list to protect society then
meh, you're only an inch shorter than average male height in america. I'm same height but don't feel short, because it's just slightly below the average. Average male height in US is 5'9. So at 5'8 you're just an inch under average. I believe 5'8-5'10 are average range for men in America. 5'10 is the slightly taller and 5'8 is the slightly shorter. I guess it depends on the country too. You at 5'8 would be taller in like China. I thought average male height was 5'6 for men ha, which I'm not surprised as it seems like a lot of Asian guys in china and such are short like 5'6 or 5'5
@brennanhuff makes sense, though people in today's society are so damn superficial that most consider anyone below 6' short, especially women. I'm also literally the shortest dude in my family since all of my male family members are above 6'. I guess this might of also fuel my perception on believing I'm short
In the future it won't matter, they're already working on reopening epiphyseal plates. In the future everyone's going to be the same height and all disadvantages from shortness will be gone.
I dunno. I'm 6'1, but my shorter friends are all cool. You sound like a brain midget with this question. Wait, are you asking this because you're being rejected/ignored by a midget?
The tiny guys realize they can never measure up. It's destructive to the ego. Since they can't change it, they learn to hate it. Akin to the sour grapes fable. Just like stupid people who hate the intelligent ones. Or ugly mud people who hate the whitesone and delightful race.
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