A handful of people hiding behind social media accounts are not all or even most men. Obviously ScarJo isn't going to look like she did at 20 - she's in her mid-30s and has had a kid. In that context, she looks fantastic.
But, yes, there are young guys in their late teens and early 20s who have only ever seen Photoshopped pics and will be overly critical. They may be "loud" (you see/hear them out of proportion), but you should not assume that most men agree.
I agree with your answer, but Scarlett's real life body never looked like her retouched body in films or magazine photo shoots... The blue bikini photo of her in this post is BEFORE her pregnancy.
@xyz94 It might have looked more like retouched photos when she was 21, but she ain't 21 anymore, and hasn't been for a long time.
Everyone should know that you will never see a non-Photoshopped pic in any publicity photo or magazine shoot - heck, celebs for years have been paying to have their Twitter and Instagram snaps retouched before sharing - so having the expectation that that's the real version of them is naive or just wrong.
Even shots that appear to be candids are almost always retouched.
You shouldn't give too much credence to a few dudes on the net who are probably 15 and just looking to stir up trouble.
I remember having this conversation with girls when i was at school. My argument was that FHM (a "lads mag") had more realistic women in it than womens magazines who do have the weird stick models.
Honestly it seems to me that men like curvy women as a default. Its women who think they need to be size 0 and judge other women on that.
Talk to girls who are thin and not anorexic since anorexia is a psychological problem not a weight problem (anorexia is about power or distorted self image). I guarantee you they get more hate than anyone off both sexes.
Uhhh... what? I consistently express that I like natural women: no makeup, no dyes, no tattoos, no (non-corrective) plastic surgery, no piercings, and no skin bleaching. One can't get much more natural than that description. All I request is that she maintain a healthy weight (not even asking for thin here) and groom herself.
The real issue is what many modern women are expecting men to embrace as "normal". More and more tolerance keeps shifting the "acceptable" window further towards unattractiveness, especially regarding weight.
Because not being fat is very, very easy. All it takes is to be sensible about what you eat.
If someone can't even be sensible about what and how much they eat, then they clearly don't care in the slightest about bettering themselves.
And why should I feel attracted to someone like that? I'm attracted to people who spend effort on themselves, not pathetic lazy trash who float through their life without aim, purpose or deliberation until they die and rot in the earth.
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OMG, Scarlett is so fat... I never knew that. You know what does the perfect body looks like? This is the perfect body from my point of view 😍
I prefer natural and normal women. No enhancements or surgeries, no drawn on eye brows, no over the top fashion trends, no pubic hair removal. Just like a girl that is down to earth, herself, in with reality that it's not a fashion show, and a girl who is kind and realistic.
Both of the women in those pictures are super sexy. Anyone who says otherwise is either jealous or stupid. Media may think they know what is attractive and what isn't but they dont speak for individual men.
Cellulite and stretch marks ain't never stopped me.
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You're right, women have no duty to work out 5 times a day in a gym in order to have the lowest body fat % possible. Nor do men have a responsibility to have a six figure income. But the reality is that both of those things have a huge impact on their desirability to the opposite sex.
Most women settle for a an with a less-than-ideal income, and most men settle for a woman with a less-than-ideal body. That's just reality, and both men and women have to live with it and both are guilty of being judgmental. So let's not pretend otherwise, k?
I want a man who has a stable income but who ever said it had to be six figures?
The average starting salary for anyone who graduated university is 50k. By the time two are married, they can each pull in a solid 70-90k a year. And thats with a bachelors. Lots of people can go up into the 100k. Its not always about income for women, but rather a mentality: if I got my degree, I would prefer a guy who got his degree as well (unless dire circumstances disabled him from doing it).
If a woman really only wants you for your income - or if your income a make it or break it deal for her, I will bet money a leech like that couldnt bother to get a degree and career of her own.
@rozequarts Yep, I agree with all of that. But the "leech" you refer to is just the female version of the males QA was talking about, and that was my entire point. There are assholes on both sides of the gender line. Let's not judge the entire gender based on them.
Everyone has their own preferences. Apparently those women, in the eyes of those guys, don't do it. Simple!
You have a thing for a certain type of guy. Your friend probably likes something a little different. Preference!
I'm attracted to women with thick, curvy figures, or even athletic, muscular, curvy physiques. Some other guy out there likes really obese women... and another wants super skinny women.
Stop trying to shame men because of their preferences.
I think Id take a closer look at which guys are calling her "fat".. You may find they are guys who overall have unrealistic expectations, complete loosers who never touched a woman, and men who are totally vain.
Most men *I* know would call these women a snack.. Some of the guys I know would prefer to put another 10-20 pounds on them.
And these are just natural, candid photos of an ideal sized body... Not posed in some unnatural way, no lighting tricks, no camera filters, no editing... So the guys who call these women "fat" have likely never been anywhere near a naked woman in their lives
Surgery ruins peoples looks i think. With the right person their Imperfections can be sexy as hell and makes them unique, besides at least it's natural. Cellulite, a bit of weight, stretch marks or whatever has never been an issue, what i think is ugly is big fake tits and any botox at all. I see girls walking around all the time thinking they're so beautiful just because they're so skinny and you just feel like saying jesus looks like you havn't eaten in a month, here's some money. Go buy a burger.
I think it stems from what we see on tv and probably pornography. As guys we have been conditioned to go get the best woman and media has portayed natural as "eh" over a long amount of years. However, the great news is it's going through a big change right now. I think more men are liking natural better and I've noticed media give more realistic views. I don't like the whole picture perfect thing personally. Natural makes me feel more relaxed and real. I think if people spent less time with media that focused on that, people would appreciate real/natural bodies.
Well, not all modern men are this way first of all.
But, I feel like it's because the more media is going the more impossible beauty standards are becoming.
For both genders.
I feel like it's just because of media, how being skinny is now being normal. Also because of models, and all of them are being required to be like size 4.
I don't know either. That kind of body is what I like. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against lean women but I like women to be soft and sensual rather than hard and toned. I always thought a nice, uniform layer of body fat was beautiful and womanly.
If other men don't like those women, kindly direct them to me. I don't know who Molly-Mae is but she is glorious.
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When you say modern man do you infact mean little boys?
Because your assertion in no way fits with my experience of reality.
The closest i can get to accomodating the view is when i think of very young men and they speak in front of other young men which doesn't even reflect their own real opinions nevermind all men everywhere.
Most men who watch love island dislike molly mae as she is two faced and not genuine. She was always going to get hate and in terms of the rest of women... I don't think its a case of hating regular body types I think its mainly men are sick of media trying to force the idea that we should be attracted to women who are overweight. Lets be real the majority of guys find Scarlett attractive she is fine
Because of 2 reasons as per my opinion 1st they watch a lot of porn and most women have had boobjobs who are in porn and keep themselves fit 2bd due to the girls in all sort of adverts as they only show very attractive, fit and sexy looking girls And in normal day to day life not many girls have those bodies and routines
Men are not disgusted by these body types; they're not ideal. If you want a lot of men's attention and praise, then you will have to be fit. For men, they need to have a six pack in order to get intense admiration from women. I don't understand the problem.
I don't think this girl is fat at all. Not even chubby in my opinion. Apart from the fact that there are plenty of men like me who not only like but even prefer a woman to have curves and softness, it's just terrible how so many people these days want to fat shame women. Fuck that. Full-figured women is where it's at.
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A handful of people hiding behind social media accounts are not all or even most men. Obviously ScarJo isn't going to look like she did at 20 - she's in her mid-30s and has had a kid. In that context, she looks fantastic.
But, yes, there are young guys in their late teens and early 20s who have only ever seen Photoshopped pics and will be overly critical. They may be "loud" (you see/hear them out of proportion), but you should not assume that most men agree.
I agree with your answer, but Scarlett's real life body never looked like her retouched body in films or magazine photo shoots... The blue bikini photo of her in this post is BEFORE her pregnancy.
@xyz94 It might have looked more like retouched photos when she was 21, but she ain't 21 anymore, and hasn't been for a long time.
Everyone should know that you will never see a non-Photoshopped pic in any publicity photo or magazine shoot - heck, celebs for years have been paying to have their Twitter and Instagram snaps retouched before sharing - so having the expectation that that's the real version of them is naive or just wrong.
Even shots that appear to be candids are almost always retouched.
You shouldn't give too much credence to a few dudes on the net who are probably 15 and just looking to stir up trouble.
I remember having this conversation with girls when i was at school. My argument was that FHM (a "lads mag") had more realistic women in it than womens magazines who do have the weird stick models.
Honestly it seems to me that men like curvy women as a default. Its women who think they need to be size 0 and judge other women on that.
Talk to girls who are thin and not anorexic since anorexia is a psychological problem not a weight problem (anorexia is about power or distorted self image). I guarantee you they get more hate than anyone off both sexes.
Uhhh... what? I consistently express that I like natural women: no makeup, no dyes, no tattoos, no (non-corrective) plastic surgery, no piercings, and no skin bleaching. One can't get much more natural than that description. All I request is that she maintain a healthy weight (not even asking for thin here) and groom herself.
The real issue is what many modern women are expecting men to embrace as "normal". More and more tolerance keeps shifting the "acceptable" window further towards unattractiveness, especially regarding weight.
Because not being fat is very, very easy.
All it takes is to be sensible about what you eat.
If someone can't even be sensible about what and how much they eat, then they clearly don't care in the slightest about bettering themselves.
And why should I feel attracted to someone like that?
I'm attracted to people who spend effort on themselves, not pathetic lazy trash who float through their life without aim, purpose or deliberation until they die and rot in the earth.
OMG, Scarlett is so fat... I never knew that.
You know what does the perfect body looks like?
This is the perfect body from my point of view 😍
LOL at the jealous downvoters 😂😂😂😂😂
Why aren't men sexually attracted to this?
That’s so mean but I can’t stop laughing!
I prefer natural and normal women. No enhancements or surgeries, no drawn on eye brows, no over the top fashion trends, no pubic hair removal. Just like a girl that is down to earth, herself, in with reality that it's not a fashion show, and a girl who is kind and realistic.
Both of the women in those pictures are super sexy. Anyone who says otherwise is either jealous or stupid. Media may think they know what is attractive and what isn't but they dont speak for individual men.
Cellulite and stretch marks ain't never stopped me.
You're right, women have no duty to work out 5 times a day in a gym in order to have the lowest body fat % possible. Nor do men have a responsibility to have a six figure income. But the reality is that both of those things have a huge impact on their desirability to the opposite sex.
Most women settle for a an with a less-than-ideal income, and most men settle for a woman with a less-than-ideal body. That's just reality, and both men and women have to live with it and both are guilty of being judgmental. So let's not pretend otherwise, k?
I want a man who has a stable income but who ever said it had to be six figures?
The average starting salary for anyone who graduated university is 50k. By the time two are married, they can each pull in a solid 70-90k a year. And thats with a bachelors. Lots of people can go up into the 100k. Its not always about income for women, but rather a mentality: if I got my degree, I would prefer a guy who got his degree as well (unless dire circumstances disabled him from doing it).
If a woman really only wants you for your income - or if your income a make it or break it deal for her, I will bet money a leech like that couldnt bother to get a degree and career of her own.
@rozequarts Yep, I agree with all of that. But the "leech" you refer to is just the female version of the males QA was talking about, and that was my entire point. There are assholes on both sides of the gender line. Let's not judge the entire gender based on them.
Ahh gotcha. Then in that case I agree.
Everyone has their own preferences. Apparently those women, in the eyes of those guys, don't do it. Simple!
You have a thing for a certain type of guy. Your friend probably likes something a little different. Preference!
I'm attracted to women with thick, curvy figures, or even athletic, muscular, curvy physiques. Some other guy out there likes really obese women... and another wants super skinny women.
Stop trying to shame men because of their preferences.
I think Id take a closer look at which guys are calling her "fat".. You may find they are guys who overall have unrealistic expectations, complete loosers who never touched a woman, and men who are totally vain.
Most men *I* know would call these women a snack.. Some of the guys I know would prefer to put another 10-20 pounds on them.
And these are just natural, candid photos of an ideal sized body... Not posed in some unnatural way, no lighting tricks, no camera filters, no editing... So the guys who call these women "fat" have likely never been anywhere near a naked woman in their lives
Surgery ruins peoples looks i think. With the right person their Imperfections can be sexy as hell and makes them unique, besides at least it's natural.
Cellulite, a bit of weight, stretch marks or whatever has never been an issue, what i think is ugly is big fake tits and any botox at all.
I see girls walking around all the time thinking they're so beautiful just because they're so skinny and you just feel like saying jesus looks like you havn't eaten in a month, here's some money. Go buy a burger.
I think it stems from what we see on tv and probably pornography. As guys we have been conditioned to go get the best woman and media has portayed natural as "eh" over a long amount of years. However, the great news is it's going through a big change right now. I think more men are liking natural better and I've noticed media give more realistic views. I don't like the whole picture perfect thing personally. Natural makes me feel more relaxed and real. I think if people spent less time with media that focused on that, people would appreciate real/natural bodies.
Well, not all modern men are this way first of all.
But, I feel like it's because the more media is going the more impossible beauty standards are becoming.
For both genders.
I feel like it's just because of media, how being skinny is now being normal. Also because of models, and all of them are being required to be like size 4.
They are definitely under size 4. Maybe size for decades ago. Not state 4 today.
Size 4 *
I don't know either. That kind of body is what I like. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against lean women but I like women to be soft and sensual rather than hard and toned. I always thought a nice, uniform layer of body fat was beautiful and womanly.
If other men don't like those women, kindly direct them to me. I don't know who Molly-Mae is but she is glorious.
When you say modern man do you infact mean little boys?
Because your assertion in no way fits with my experience of reality.
The closest i can get to accomodating the view is when i think of very young men and they speak in front of other young men which doesn't even reflect their own real opinions nevermind all men everywhere.
This is fucking nonsense.
Most men who watch love island dislike molly mae as she is two faced and not genuine. She was always going to get hate and in terms of the rest of women... I don't think its a case of hating regular body types I think its mainly men are sick of media trying to force the idea that we should be attracted to women who are overweight. Lets be real the majority of guys find Scarlett attractive she is fine
Because of 2 reasons as per my opinion
1st they watch a lot of porn and most women have had boobjobs who are in porn and keep themselves fit
2bd due to the girls in all sort of adverts as they only show very attractive, fit and sexy looking girls
And in normal day to day life not many girls have those bodies and routines
Men are not disgusted by these body types; they're not ideal. If you want a lot of men's attention and praise, then you will have to be fit. For men, they need to have a six pack in order to get intense admiration from women. I don't understand the problem.
I don't think this girl is fat at all. Not even chubby in my opinion.
Apart from the fact that there are plenty of men like me who not only like but even prefer a woman to have curves and softness, it's just terrible how so many people these days want to fat shame women.
Fuck that. Full-figured women is where it's at.