What are your thoughts on Masculine Behavioral Therapy? Does it really work? Are too many men just failing to attract and understand women these days?

[Jack9949]

During my time in quarantine, I have had more time to reflect on myself as an individual, so I am committed to reforming myself in one of my key areas of weakness being with attracting, understanding, and approaching women. This is in large part due to my former misunderstandings of what women are actually attracted to. Most men in general still don’t seem to understand how female attraction actually works. In a youtube ad, I was offered a free site registration that introduced me to MBT, or this idea that men need to improve themselves in order to attract women.

A great opportunity lies ahead for me in college, with a fresh new batch of women that I’ve never known. I am now fully committed to doing what’s toughest in acknowledging that I have an issue that I bear full responsibility for. Like many guys on this site, blaming feminism constantly was one of the things that I used to do, in order to excuse myself from my own failures and to feel better. However, it is much easier for me to focus on my own improvement, than to expect changes from within society.

My only other option however, would be to continue feeling hopeless and keep making the same mistakes. I have chosen against this path. Because as a man I believe it is important to acknowledge that sometimes doing what is best for yourself involves doing what is toughest. Also by acknowledging and addressing my weaknesses I am able to grow as a person. The easier path which I think many men have chosen instead is to convince themselves that society is either unworthy of them, or needing to conform to them.

So a special thanks to all the women out there who won’t settle for less, and are challenging men to become the best possible versions of ourselves. I used to see you as cold hearted, but I now understand your just trying to embetter our societies and make them more complete. ❤️❤️Women would be doing society a huge disservice if they were to settle on emotionally weak men who couldn’t handle difficulty.

[Barbaric]

I just saw your question about taking $800 from your Dad to buy this course. Don't buy this course. I'm curious to know, who is offering this?

I used to struggle with this stuff, and I joined the PUA community. I was able to eventually sort myself out, but the trouble is that there are so many absolute morons and complete charlatans who claim to be "experts" on this stuff and you have to be able to tell the difference. They do it because it's a really easy to to prey on and scam naive guys who are struggling, like yourself - don't take that as an insult by the way, I'm trying to prevent you from being scammed and wasting money.

There are also much cheaper ways to improve in this area. There's so much free information out there, articles, youtube videos. You don't need to be spending $800 on a course that's probably bullshit. I've read books on this too which have helped me a lot, and they're about $5-$10 each.

[Jack9949]

@barbaric Here is the course. neverleftonreadever.com/attraction-livetraining It’s being offered by a guy who used to be like me, in the sense that he struggled with women. I sat through his 2 hour presentation which is part of the membership initiation process. I now only need to pay my dues. Could you show me the free stuff tho?

[Barbaric]

I've taken a look at his youtube videos and he actually seems to be spot on about a lot of things, minus the semen retention stuff which is a load of bollocks. I'm still sceptical of him though.

In the PUA community we used to speak about inner vs outer "game". Inner game is about you, your beliefs, your self-confidence. Outer game is about how to speak to women, things you can actually do to improve your social skills.

It's a mistake to focus on one over the other. Too much focus on outer game means that you have a bunch of tricks and tactics, but you're kind of pretending to be something you're not. Too much focus on inner game means that you understand social dynamics but you don't have the skills to apply that knowledge.

He seems to focus entirely on inner game. Guys who do that tend to be able to talk the talk without walking the walk. Based on that I wouldn't spend $800 on his program.

When it comes to understanding inter-sexual dynamics, the best person to listen to is Rollo Tomassi. He has a site called "The Rational Male" and a youtube channel under the same name. He tends to waffle on quite a bit but he's spot on about most things. That's more inner game stuff though.

When it comes to outer game - Steve Jabba, A. G. Hayden, Nick Krauser, Aaron Sleazy, Alan Roger Currie, GirlsChase. Just google all of those and you'll find plenty.

[Jack9949]

@barbaric well. Sounds good then.

[Pighttussy]

I blame feminism. It has been sugar coating the world for men when it's the complete opposite. Feminism pushes that men should be emotional but forgets that women despise such men. Sure on social media they say they want a crybaby, but statistics show that's not true. No wonder more people push for communism

[Jack9949]

@pighttussy Right but the feminists are only a small and few privaledged elite of women, most women don’t even self identify with feminism. I was born with autism and told to “just be a nice guy” but that obviously hasn’t amounted to anything.

[thegirlfromthething]

I’ve never heard of it and I’d have to hear more about the specifics to form an opinion, but it seems okay based on the goals you describe.

[Jack9949]

@thegirlfromthething Well I’m still trying to learn about it myself. I sat through a mandatory livestream presentation that’s part of the initiation process for the site’s membership. The guy said I’d get an email with the steps in a few days.